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Title: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: Kuromatsu on May 10, 2006, 04:19:26 PM
Do you think that the Wii will be a big sucess? or will it be a total failure? This is just your opinion. Oh and Don't make fun of the title.

I picked average because when asked people at school, they said no, but I still think that some people will buy it.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: rubberducky on May 10, 2006, 05:37:03 PM
i think it will wipe out xbox 360 and ps3. i just hope sony doesnt get there greedy hands on wii and steal ideas like they always do. the reason i think it will do good is because i have always been a nintendo fan and my friends always made fun of me (just joking arround there not mean) but when they heard about the wii they said "forget the xbox360 or ps3 the wii looks pretty darn good". trust me only a realy good nintendo system can make my nintendo basher friends want to by the wii.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: SushieBoy on May 10, 2006, 06:22:57 PM
I agree with you rubberducky, the PS3 and X box 360 are just "souped-up" versions of there earlier systems and all they have to offer is just better graphics and a higher cost and just about the same games. On the other hand the Wii is estimated to be cheaper than the others with enhanced graphics and great new mario games! In conclusion, I think the wii will beat the crap out of the other systems. Who agrees?
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: rubberducky on May 10, 2006, 06:36:50 PM
your right. its time for the wii to get revenge on playstation. i always hated playstation everysince they copied the N64. playstation needs to think of there own ideas. i could rant and complain all day but ill stop.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: CrzyFlmngMnkyHead on May 10, 2006, 06:41:45 PM
WII WILL MAKE IT!!
Sorry, I just had to say that. I voted "It is the best consul ever".
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: SushieBoy on May 10, 2006, 06:43:37 PM
No!!! we shall not stop!, We must complain more and more about Sony!!! Playstation sold more systems than the 64! But it was just a stolen Idea!!! C'mon people protest with me!!
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: smfan1085 on May 10, 2006, 07:32:39 PM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2Fb%2Fb0%2FGaius_Julius_Caesar.jpg&hash=b0e190033f870d38abab20633f690be2)

JULIUS CAESAR, BEST CONSUL EVER



Sorry, I couldn't resist.



Anyway, I feel the same way about Playstation as you guys do. Unfortunately, I can't help but get the sneaking feeling that stores will contain more games for each of the other two next-gen systems than ones for Wii. (Well, I don't know about that, but it just seems like it could be that way judging from the fact that at least one store I went to had almost NO DS games and LOTS of PSP games.)

But I still think the Wii will do quite well as far as sales; most unbiased people seem to love the idea of it.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: Koopaslaya on May 10, 2006, 07:55:29 PM
The option: "Wii's name killed it" isn't up there.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: dude677 on May 10, 2006, 08:03:03 PM
Did Columbus Sail the Ocean Blue?
Did Elvis Presly die?
Did Jackie Chan do "Rumble In The Bronx"?
Did Jet Li do "Romero Must Die"?
Is Homer Simpson fat?
Is Deezer spelled D-E-E-Z-E-R?
Was I once drmario64?
Is George W. Bush a bad president?
Is Simon Cowell a mean one?
Am I getting repetitive?
Should I just stop not before hurting myself?

In short, yes, the Wii will make it.
But...
The name...
That is what bothers me...
Wii even name it the Wii?
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: The Blue Toad on May 10, 2006, 08:15:02 PM
Oh, this is so exciting.  With E3 coming up, the blood of TMK is pumping hot, and palms are sweaty from the great anticipation!
Revo...er...Wii will make it all the way!   (Or at least above average). 
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on May 10, 2006, 09:54:25 PM
Nintendo system are always successful in one way or another, so I don't see why it wouldn't succeed. As for winning the next console race, only time can tell.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: CreamCat on May 10, 2006, 11:48:09 PM
Unlike you other chaps, I do believe that the Wii will not outsale the PS3. It just can not be done I'm afraid. The Playstation one and two were huge successes and chances are so will the third. You see, the first two Playstations were full of fun and popular games that shed the whole (apprently un-cool) kiddy image. The

Gamcube on the other hand was full of (so called) kiddy games, the loss of Rareware , very few games and it looked like a plasticy little toy. Frankly it is obvious to me why the PS2 did so much better.

Now, I know the Wii has huge third part support, a new and origonal controller (which at first I hated, but have now grown to love after seeing it in action), and an un-kiddish look, but it has two bad things- a company with a bad rep and a kiddish name. It might not seem like much, but most people I know are turned off enough by these two thigns to not buy a Wii.

So, no. The Wii will not beat the PS3. The 360 on the other hand might see itself being beaten by a console named Wii.





Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: smfan1085 on May 10, 2006, 11:59:41 PM
Nintendo does not have a bad rep. Among unbiased people, it has quite a good one (especially in the case of its handheld systems).

The GCN does not look like a "plasticy little toy" in the least.

If the PS3 does do better, it will probably be in large part because of the millions of idiots in this world who think GOOD games are "kiddy" and "un-cool" (I'm not targeting anyone here, obviously).



I should have mentioned the latest thing that made me furious with the people behind Playstation. They've freakin' copied Nintendo's idea for a motion-sensitive controller. The newly re-designed PS3 controller has some sort of tilt-sensing technology that, while it's not the same or as good as the Wii controller technology, is still blatant idea theft in my view.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: BP on May 11, 2006, 12:16:40 AM
But did they copy it well enough? No. It just tilts. You can't punch wth a PS3 controller, but a Wiimote knows where it is, not just what end is lower.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: smfan1085 on May 11, 2006, 12:23:25 AM
Yeah, I realize that. But what they did still annoys me to no end.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: Lizard Dude on May 11, 2006, 12:48:38 AM
I never knew Julius Caesar looked so much like Colin Mochrie!
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: neotev on May 11, 2006, 09:02:34 AM
I also believe the PS3 controller is a lesser rip off of the Wiimote and I also hate the fact that everybodys always telling me "You like Nintendo? What is wrong with you Sony's better. Nintendo is for sissys." It tics me off. Of course the Wii will do good. Nintendo has always been pretty popular in Japan so if it don't make it here it will more than likely make it there.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: Lizard Dude on May 11, 2006, 10:01:39 PM
"Tell me why you would buy a $600 PS3?" Peter Moore, a Microsoft vice president, said in an interview. "People are going to buy two (machines.) They're going to buy an Xbox and they're going to buy a Wii ... for the price of one PS3."

Moore then turned pitchman for Nintendo's Wii, the latest offering from the Japanese company that once dominated the video game industry.

"People will always gravitate toward a competitively priced product -- like what I believe Wii will be -- with innovative new designs and great intellectual property like Mario, Zelda and Metroid," Moore told Reuters.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: Hirocon on May 11, 2006, 10:19:46 PM
What I find amusing is that in order to incorporate tilt functionality into the PS3 controller, they had to scrap the rumble feature.  The famous dual-shock controller is now a zero-shock controller!  Some may think vibrating controllers are a minor detail but I actually like them a lot... I have wavebirds but I choose to use wired controllers instead because I like the rumble feature.  The Wii will use a wireless controller with complete motion detection, and vibration, and, a built in speaker!  Very cool indeed.  Though I'm still not clear how they expect me to play N64 games with the Wiimote.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: CreamCat on May 11, 2006, 10:22:24 PM
Quote
"Tell me why you would buy a $600 PS3?" Peter Moore, a Microsoft vice president, said in an interview. "People are going to buy two (machines.) They're going to buy an Xbox and they're going to buy a Wii ... for the price of one PS3."

Moore then turned pitchman for Nintendo's Wii, the latest offering from the Japanese company that once dominated the video game industry.

"People will always gravitate toward a competitively priced product -- like what I believe Wii will be -- with innovative new designs and great intellectual property like Mario, Zelda and Metroid," Moore told Reuters.
Interesting, could it be that Microsoft and Nintendo are working together to try and overthrow Sony? Nah!
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: Hirocon on May 11, 2006, 10:25:15 PM
Maybe we'll see Master Chief as a playable character in Super Smash Brothers Brawl.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: Ultima Shadow on May 12, 2006, 12:52:59 AM
Though I'm still not clear how they expect me to play N64 games with the Wiimote.

There are going to be two controllers included, I believe- the Wiimote and a more traditional controller.

Interesting, could it be that Microsoft and Nintendo are working together to try and overthrow Sony? Nah!

Yes please. I've always liked Xbox more than PS2 anyway.

Maybe we'll see Master Chief as a playable character in Super Smash Brothers Brawl.

*Dreams of playing Halo 3 on Wii*
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: Sqrt2 on May 12, 2006, 02:35:29 AM
With SSB:B on the horizon I think that wii (rev) will make it popular. Whether it will outsell the PS3/Xbox 360 is a different matter entirely.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: Vidgmchtr on May 12, 2006, 05:46:25 PM
Actually, according to Perrin Kaplan, that "classic" controller will apparently be sold seperately. The only thing that'll come with the Wii controller is that nunchaku control stick thing in the package.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: Ultima Shadow on May 12, 2006, 09:57:07 PM
NOOO!

Ah, well, I'll just buy that. I'm not too keen on the Wiimote for some games. Starfox 64/Lylat Wars would rock with it, though.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: MaxVance on May 13, 2006, 03:19:59 PM
There are going to be two controllers included, I believe- the Wiimote and a more traditional controller.
Yes, the Wikipedia article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii_Remote) on the Wiimote has a picture of the classic controller. (scroll down to see it)

Now, I know the Wii has huge third part support, a new and origonal controller (which at first I hated, but have now grown to love after seeing it in action), and an un-kiddish look, but it has two bad things- a company with a bad rep and a kiddish name. It might not seem like much, but most people I know are turned off enough by these two thigns to not buy a Wii.
What do you think is so kiddish about the name? I fail to see how it is so.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: CreamCat on May 13, 2006, 03:32:47 PM
I dunno, it just sounds like something a little baby who speaks gibberish might say (not to mention Wiimote, sounds like a mispronunciation of remote). Oh, and by bad rep, I mean they have a bed rep with casual gamers. I consider most of my friend's casual gamers and boy, do they ever hate Nintendo.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: smfan1085 on May 13, 2006, 07:46:12 PM
I still can't understand why ANYBODY would hate Nintendo. What's to hate about it? Some people obviously would not be interested in Nintendo, but why would they actively hate it?! I mean, come on! Nintendo's not like Sony and Microsoft, which jumped into the industry years after video games first became popular and took popularity from Nintendo. Nintendo didn't do any corresponding thing to make fans of Sony and Microsoft angry. So what's going on here? I think it's probably that the people who  hate Nintendo (as opposed to be uninterested in its products) are just idiots who want to look "cool". I can't see it being any other reason.


EDIT: This is the first time I've seen the "classic" controller. It looks awesome.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: Gargle on May 13, 2006, 08:08:09 PM
Interesting, could it be that Microsoft and Nintendo are working together to try and overthrow Sony? Nah!

Personally, I think Microsoft is trying to get rid of Sony first, then it will try to eliminate Nintendo(which will PHAIL). Nintendo will come out on top.

I think the Wii stole the show at E3. If you go to some Sony message boards, you can see them talking good things about the Wii and how their respect for Nintendo has gone up. It just goes to show how much the Wii will succeed.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on May 13, 2006, 09:03:28 PM
Actually, I think two Wiimotes will be included with each system since Nintendo wants to emphasize the "We" aspect of the system. The classic controller will still probably be sold seperately though, hopefully not $35 like the Wavebirds were.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: smfan1085 on May 13, 2006, 09:05:15 PM
http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/top/e306-clips-e3-morning-stampede-173469.php

HAHA YES.


I actually can't understand that video myself, but look at the comments below it. (Language Warning)
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: Hirocon on May 13, 2006, 11:44:15 PM
Yes, the Wikipedia article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii_Remote) on the Wiimote has a picture of the classic controller. (scroll down to see it)

That looks neat, but are you sure it's real?  I never saw any pictures like that on IGN.  Besides, that controller still doesn't have enough buttons to play N64 games unless you use the right joystick in place of the c buttons, which I don't consider to be the ideal way to play N64 games.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: Luigison on May 14, 2006, 12:49:33 AM
That looks neat, but are you sure it's real?  I never saw any pictures like that on IGN.  Besides, that controller still doesn't have enough buttons to play N64 games unless you use the right joystick in place of the c buttons, which I don't consider to be the ideal way to play N64 games.
It's real.  We played with it E3.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: Luigison on May 14, 2006, 11:11:49 AM
Microsoft's Peter Moore said, "Tell me why you would buy a $600 PS3?  People are going to buy two (machines.) They're going to buy an Xbox and they're going to buy a Wii ... for the price of one PS3.  People will always gravitate toward a competitively priced product -- like what I believe Wii will be -- with innovative new designs and great intellectual property like Mario, Zelda and Metroid."

Sony's Phil Harrison said, "I think Peter Moore is exactly right.  I think Nintendo will be the second system consumers purchase after PlayStation 3.  I haven't had a chance to check out the Wii myself, but Nintendo has a great history of innovation and has always done great things for gaming and long may they do so. But as it relates to our strategy they are very much in a different market."

Seems both Microsoft and Sony think Nintendo will come in second.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: Big_C on May 17, 2006, 08:52:33 AM
The Wii will outsell the crappy ps3 and the lame xbox 360, Wii will be the best system ever.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: neotev on May 17, 2006, 03:36:48 PM
The Wii will outsell the crappy ps3 and the lame xbox 360, Wii will be the best system ever.


Amen
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: Vidgmchtr on May 17, 2006, 05:57:31 PM
I'd say all of them should do nicely.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: smfan1085 on May 17, 2006, 10:22:26 PM
http://www.gamesradar.com/gb/ps3/game/news/article.jsp?articleId=20060513133719562032&sectionId=1006

Hmmmmmm...... There's some disappointments for Sony fans.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: Kojinka on May 18, 2006, 06:23:37 AM
To me, it'll be the best console of its generation, but that's just opinion from one fangirl.  Many people, I fear, will vaccumn their wallets empty for a PS3.  I know Wii will exceed its prececessor.  I thought the GCN was pretty much an improved N64.  Wii will thwart its competetors innovation wise, but there so many gamers who want games aimed for older audiences.  Those gamers are gonna want PS3 or X-Box360.  But with games like SSBB and TP's Wiimote compatablitity,  Therefore, I think Wii will be better than average, and people will by one.  SSBB and TP are two of the most highly anticipated games.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on May 18, 2006, 09:21:35 AM
http://www.gamesradar.com/gb/ps3/game/news/article.jsp?articleId=20060513133719562032&sectionId=1006

Hmmmmmm...... There's some disappointments for Sony fans.


Hmmm, isn't the Xbox 360 in that same situation? If you cheap out, you get the nearly useless version of the system?
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: neotev on May 18, 2006, 10:34:33 AM
Yes X-box 360 has the same sort of thing as the PS3 you buy the one with the good Hard drive or one without a hard drive at all. I think that is what I recall hearing but I may be wrong. But I believe I also heard that the inexpensive X-Box 360 also had some differences with the expensive one.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: Lizard Dude on May 18, 2006, 10:39:28 AM
I believe the difference is that with 360, you can actually upgrade the Core version to full functionality of the full version by buying a hard drive, wireless controllers, ethernet cables, etc.

It sounds like the cheap PS3 will have things that can never be upgraded, like HDMI output and more hard drive space. Who knows, though. As long as it's not released yet, there's hope.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: Ultima Shadow on May 18, 2006, 03:59:58 PM
www.wii60.com

This site is worth looking at. Their views are quite interesting.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: Kojinka on May 18, 2006, 04:18:51 PM
Some of those pictures were just wrong.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: SolidShroom on May 18, 2006, 06:38:08 PM
that one about the sony stealing fron nintendo was great! I never realized that sony stole that much from nintend, bu now I do!(handheld gaming, motion based controller,rumble,etc). An intresting fact however that I saw but I don't remember where, the playstation was originally the nintendo "Sega CD" that they thought of after they dumped philips after asking them to do that. However nintendo dumped sony and the whole playststation name and they tried really hard to make something of it (unlike CD-i) and they did.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: SolidShroom on May 18, 2006, 06:39:15 PM
Hey I just thought of something funny, What if Nintendo crushes the 360 and the ps3, so sega comes back and it's Mario vs. sonic alllll over again!
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: The Chef on May 18, 2006, 08:02:52 PM
That'll never happen. There's no way Sega can come back. ONce you drop out of the console race, you're usually unfit to return for quite a while.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: SolidShroom on May 18, 2006, 08:30:32 PM
That'll never happen. There's no way Sega can come back. ONce you drop out of the console race, you're usually unfit to return for quite a while.
After a lot of thinking I see that you have a point. Look at Atari,3DO,etc.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: Lizard Dude on May 19, 2006, 11:28:09 AM
I believe the difference is that with 360, you can actually upgrade the Core version to full functionality of the full version by buying a hard drive, wireless controllers, ethernet cables, etc.

It sounds like the cheap PS3 will have things that can never be upgraded, like HDMI output and more hard drive space. Who knows, though. As long as it's not released yet, there's hope.

I was wrong. The only thing you can't ever upgrade is the HDMI.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: Kojinka on May 20, 2006, 09:48:24 AM
After checking out the fan status, I think Wii will win, if not, second behind X-box 360.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: Chupperson Weird on May 22, 2006, 08:11:37 PM
The original Atari company hasn't existed for quite some time. 3DO was, I believe, the only console invented by the guy that invented it.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: SuperDragonYoshi on May 29, 2006, 09:16:18 PM
Okay, lets break all this down...
Lets start with Japan.
In Japan, the 360 factor is realatively negligable. Its a battle between a 250 dollar Wii, and a 500 dollar PS3. Yes, the PlayStation name may mean a lot, but that sure didn't do a thing for Nintendo when they lost their grip on the consol (ahah julius ceaser last consol... i crack myself up) market. To top all of this off, the DS is allready on fire over there. So I really don't see a reason that Nintendo can't win in the land of the setting (rising?) sun.

In America though, the 360 isn't something to shrug off. It will have several (probobly not 10) million consols allready sold before the wii and ps3 set foot here. the price gap between a 200 dollar wii and 300 dollar 360 isn't the same gap between that of the PS3. Not to mention, in America people seem to care a lot more for their graphical fix, and wouldn't mind the eye-candy of the wii's opponents. Ultimatley the wii could get high up in the market by getting new people to play, and satisfying the plebians with an affordable consol (no roman joke intended). I still think that the 360 will most likley take the market over here, maybe not by much, but I think M$ has gotten their act together.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: nensondubois on June 16, 2006, 05:21:56 PM
the only problem i have with Wii is that annoying controller could it only be a standard GC controoler?
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: The Chef on June 16, 2006, 05:40:15 PM
Care to tell us what makes the controller 'annoying'?
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: nensondubois on June 16, 2006, 05:50:27 PM
it's a remote, not a controlor and no games Should Require the wii mote! get my drift?Which i don't even think the sytem should be call wii but REVOLUTION! What The hammers where they smoking when they came up that name?
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: The Chef on June 16, 2006, 05:56:23 PM
Are you aware of what this thing can do? It's the closest to VR at the moment and the name Wii represents We, as in Us, as in more than one person playing the game at a time. Get it?
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: nensondubois on June 16, 2006, 06:04:58 PM
thank you, i had no idea.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: The Chef on June 16, 2006, 06:09:18 PM
SRISLY? It's been all over the various gaming news sites for a year now. E3 was last month. You should see the games for it.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: nensondubois on June 16, 2006, 06:11:03 PM
I will in fact i'm going to get a wii. not like i wasn't before.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: Fullmetal Mari0 on June 16, 2006, 06:16:30 PM
My prediction?
The Wii shall dominate, the 360 will do very well, and the PS3 will crash and burn.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: nensondubois on June 16, 2006, 06:18:03 PM
i agree all other third party sytem will rott!
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: nensondubois on June 18, 2006, 09:45:46 PM
is it completely backwards compatible?
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: Luigison on June 18, 2006, 09:55:50 PM

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nintendogal.com%2Fuploads%2Frev%2Fm.serendipityThumb.jpg&hash=0c706f24af9358a69c815ec99d80ec01)

Not only backwards, but also upside down.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: BP on June 19, 2006, 12:36:35 AM
Actually, I think two Wiimotes will be included with each system since Nintendo wants to emphasize the "We" aspect of the system. The classic controller will still probably be sold seperately though, hopefully not $35 like the Wavebirds were.
Hah! That's a great idea...
And yes, technically Wii will be completely backward compatible, with the Virtual Console. It was mentioned in #tmk that when you play VC games you will use a special controller to make gameplay seem more natural, not the Wiimote. This isn't news, I'm sure... you probably already know. It's a shame, but programming old games to work with the Wiimote would be difficult and risky. Here's what the one at e3 looked like.
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgearmedia.ign.com%2Fgear%2Fimage%2Farticle%2F707%2F707508%2Fe3-2006-hands-on-with-the-wii-virtural-console-controller-20060510065246373.jpg&hash=daa98fd0c3d9f295073eea8314d48116)
And if you take a look at it, you'll see that it's perfect for use with the NES, SNES, N64, GC, and any other consoles Wii will emulate. I know I'll own four of those in no time.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: Mr. Melee on June 19, 2006, 06:10:16 AM
Great. More stuff to save up for...

I originally voted that it would be better than average and I would by one, but I have changed my vote. I only picked the better than average choice because of what other consoles have brought us (NES= SMB, SNES= new technologies, N64= 3-D gaming, etc.) After reviewing past posts and thinking, I would change my vote to that it will be the best console ever (and I will buy it). As The Chef said, this is the closest to virtual reality in any home console before it, and if BP is right about the second optional controller for older games, then this system will pwn and own the competition.

I also second my opinion with an issue of Gamepro magazine, the one with a SMB-ish scene on the cover. Inside is an article where they mention the thee next-gen consoles. In the end, they gave awards to the consoles. If I can remember from memory...X-BOX 360= Best online service; PS3= Best graphics (competition starts here), Best playability/control; Wii: Best price/affordability, Best games, and I forget the third best. The point? They gave more awards to the Wii, which could mean they think it is the best, and these people are generally neutral in console wars. They gave what they thought about the next-gen consoles, and if there awards were well-placed, and they mean which one is the best by the amount of awards, the it's 3. 360, 2. PS3, 1. Wii. They could also mean which one is the best by what the awards said, but I don't think it would change the results.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: The Chef on June 19, 2006, 07:46:22 AM
You don't have to listen to what the game reviewers say, just formulate your own opinion.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: Hirocon on June 19, 2006, 01:34:02 PM
And if you take a look at it, you'll see that it's perfect for use with the NES, SNES, N64, GC, and any other consoles Wii will emulate. I know I'll own four of those in no time.

It does not look perfect for N64 games.  I do not want to have to use a joystick to simulate the four c-buttons.  Maybe you'll have the option to use x, y, select and R2 as the four c-buttons, but in that case the button layout is all wrong.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: Lizard Dude on June 20, 2006, 08:07:39 PM
You won't use that controller with GCN games, since the GCN controllers already plug directly into the Wii. And it does not look good for N64 games.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: BP on June 21, 2006, 02:48:25 AM
Great. More stuff to save up for...
Muhahaha. Well, if you want to save money and play video games at the same time, you're best off a Nintendo fan. The VC controller can't possibly be so expensive as to make one cry. When it comes to graphics... well, I thought you couldn't improve SSBM's. And now look at SSBB. that trailer made me DIZZY!!!!! Playing it will be overwhelmingly awesome. When I'm playing SSBB with my friends (I will have 4 Wiimotes as well as VC controllers as soon as I can get them) I'll be in heaven. I'm getting tingly inside...! Remember back when I said "I hope that the Revolution will play DVDs!!!!" Well I don't CARE anymore!!!!!! I'll probably never use that feature when I'm playing SSBB, SMG, and TOO MUCH MOOOOORE!!!! @_@ Good thing that in the Wii's prime moments I will have a job.
I have calm.

It does not look perfect for N64 games.  I do not want to have to use a joystick to simulate the four c-buttons.  Maybe you'll have the option to use x, y, select and R2 as the four c-buttons, but in that case the button layout is all wrong.
If not, forget about putting your N64 in the closet, I guess. Nintendo will likely give you an option of what to do with the extra buttons (think GB Player) or make game-specific controls.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: Lizard Dude on June 21, 2006, 03:47:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDObvdC23qw

Looks and sounds like he's using the right analog stick as C (which would be good for Mario 64, but bad for other games).
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: The Chef on June 21, 2006, 04:04:03 PM
I wonder what would attach into that slot on the back of the controller.......
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: BP on June 21, 2006, 04:44:35 PM
So does Nintendo. It probably won't be important for a while. but maybe we'll end up using it someday.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: MechanicalMonarch on June 21, 2006, 10:56:01 PM
I remember seeing a video that showed some of the games downloaded for that particular Wii which included SM64 and others.  I also saw a sega system with sonic as a choice.  How would this controller fit segas 6-button style?
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: Lizard Dude on June 22, 2006, 02:42:45 AM
L and R replacing two of the buttons, I guess (like SNES versions of games on both systems usually did).
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: The Chef on June 22, 2006, 08:36:16 AM
Didn't the Genesis only have 3 face buttons?
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: Luigison on June 24, 2006, 10:40:56 AM
Quote
GI: What is the little door on the front of the unit?

Fils-Aime: That is where an SD card goes. That’s storable media. And on
top, are the attachments for the GameCube controllers.

GI: So will SD cards be the primary storage medium?

Fils-Aime: It will be one of the memory mediums, and it’s the only one
that we’ve announced.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: Luigison on June 29, 2006, 09:00:39 AM
Wii can't spell:  http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b87/gangsta_pranksta/prueba_atras_re.jpg

Wii break finger:  http://img331.imageshack.us/img331/9519/mandoabierto4hh.jpg

Inside the front flap:  http://pix.nofrag.com/9a/07/d7464ad8137c4dbad56649fc63b1.jpg

Heh.  They're putting the disc in upside down.  I wonder what the SYNC button actually syncs.  Could be the controllers or SD memory?  Where does the DVD dongle go?

Inside the stand:  http://pix.nofrag.com/c6/56/68284b0c00ab73476d4cdd0c11f6.jpg

I wonder what the hole in the base is for.  Is it for the air intake with the back of the Wii being the exhaust?  Or more likely are the lines of holes in the bottom front of the Wii itself the only intake?  Has anyone seen a picture of the vertical-bottom/right-side of the Wii itself?

Gap at front of base:  http://img323.imageshack.us/img323/7717/p101031927rx.jpg

The gap is possibly for air intake through the base.  Also notice "Nintendo" instead of "Wii".  I wish the new "Wii" image showed the gap or where it was.  Anyone else have pictures of the new "Wii"?

EDIT:  Should my two recent posts here have gone in a different thread?

EDIT 2:
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi7.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy258%2Fpaulk501%2Fwii-1.jpg&hash=132236384488454179a1de44091cb229)

I think it was annouced that the Wii will use SD memory cards, but unless this is an optical illusion it looks like that slot is the size of a DS card which is larger than an SD card.  Hmmm. 

DS, SD, and CD size comparison:  http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y258/paulk501/comparision.jpg

EDIT 3:  After chatting with a staffer about the sizes I think that a DS card would not fit in the slot.  The comparison images are not very good to draw conculsions.  Still, it looks slightly too big for SD to me, but that may be an optical illusion or the slot may be slightly oversized in this demo system that possilby doesn't actual hardware for the slot anyway. 

<sarcasm>  It's obvious that the SYNC button is for the Nintendo ON Z800 3D VR visor.  </sarcasm>

EDIT 4:  What is this?  http://kontek.net/Luigison/flaps.PNG  Is it where the DVD dongle goes?

Heh.  This post is turning into a blog.

This sentence is here for those who still automatically skip the last line of a post.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: Mr. Melee on June 29, 2006, 05:55:01 PM
I thought that that slot was for Gamecube games. Maybe I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: Chupperson Weird on June 29, 2006, 06:15:57 PM
What the?
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: coolkid on June 30, 2006, 08:50:52 PM
The Wii Vs. PS3 video prooves that Wii pwns more then http://www.smbhq.com/users/bothgh !
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: Koopaslaya on July 08, 2006, 03:22:22 PM
I thought that that slot was for Gamecube games. Maybe I'm wrong.

I'm 99% sure you mean Game Cube Memory Cards.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: Mr. Melee on July 08, 2006, 08:25:07 PM
The picture fooled me. I actually did think the slot was for Gamecube games. When comparing a CD/DVD to a GC disc, the size of the hole is too small for the GC disc. My mistake.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: Kojinka on July 11, 2006, 04:19:44 PM
I think GCN disks will go into the same slot as Wii disks.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: HolyAarom on July 13, 2006, 08:30:00 AM
I voted for better than average. Sure it may not have Rare anymore, but it has many third-parties interested in the system.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: Kojinka on July 14, 2006, 11:19:42 AM
The problem I have is that there are a few Rare games for the N64 that I wanna try, but from what I've heard, there won't be any non-DK games made by Rare available for download.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: King_Koopa_13 on July 20, 2006, 07:52:05 PM
The Nintendo Wii Is The Next Generation of Video Games, Nintendo Never Fails To Make There System The Best
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: PaperMario on July 20, 2006, 09:19:24 PM
I picked better than average.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: Hirocon on July 20, 2006, 11:27:38 PM
Does anyone know if the Wii will come with component video cables?
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: coolkid on September 12, 2006, 05:04:18 PM
Nope, Zip, 0, Nada, Got nuthin'.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: Luigison on September 26, 2006, 11:33:36 AM
Looks like I could spend at least $354.62 and up to $568.35 or so at the Wii launch.  Anyone want to buy a slightly used kidney? 

Here's what I want from the webpage:
State Sales Tax (7.25%)
1 Wii Remote ($39.99 each)
1 Retro Controller ($19.99 each)
Elebits - ($49.99)
Rayman Raving Rabbids - ($49.99)
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess - ($49.99)
Trauma Center: Second Opinion - ($49.99)
2000 Virtual Console Points ($0.01 per point)
Total:  $568.35

I probably won't get all those games at launch, but will definetly get Wario Ware which isn't listed.

Here's what I will definetly get:
State Sales Tax (7.25%)
1 Wii Remote ($39.99 each)
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess - ($49.99)
WarioWare - ($39.99?) - Assuming it's at launch
Total:  $354.62

Calculate how much you could spend:  http://www.n-sider.com/newsview.php?type=story&storyid=2440
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on September 26, 2006, 12:38:15 PM
$428.96.

Well, I guess I could hold off on Excite Truck and Red Steel.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: CoconutMikeNIke on September 26, 2006, 01:00:36 PM
Ow, my bank account is in tears as to the hole that's going to be ripped out of it.

New York Tax ~8.375%
Wii Remote  $39.99
Wii Nunchuk  $19.99
Madden NFL '07  $49.99
Red Steel  $49.99
The Legend of Zelda:Twilight Princess  $49.99
2000 Wii Points  $20.00

Total  $520.13
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: Mr. Melee on September 26, 2006, 02:38:21 PM
My total: $362.07

Wii= $249.99
Retro controller= $19.99
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess= $49.99
2000 Wii Points= $20.00
Ohio Tax= 6.5%

Great. I need more money :'(.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: coolkid on September 26, 2006, 03:31:08 PM
TP is a launch title. START EDITING!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: Kuromatsu on September 26, 2006, 03:42:01 PM
My Total: US $451.44

Wii with WiiSports = $249.99
Wii Remote = $39.99
Wii Nunchuk = $19.99
Retro Controller = $19.99
Metal Slug Anthology = $49.99
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess = $49.99

hehe... Of course the best system of all time would support my favorite games!(i.e. Metal Slug)... But im probably not going to get all that on the release date, maybe christmas. I've noticed that every single game for the Wii is $49.99.

oh and thanks for the cash calculator Luigison. =)
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: Koopaslaya on September 26, 2006, 07:46:49 PM
Well, it looks as If I will not be buying a Wii any time soon...
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: Luigison on September 27, 2006, 09:54:29 AM
I've noticed that every single game for the Wii is $49.99.

oh and thanks for the cash calculator Luigison. =)
Some will supposedly be $39.99, but I haven't seen an official pricing list for all the games.  I've heard that most Xbox 360 and PS3 games will be $59.99, but again I haven't seen an official pricing list.

Edit:  In case anyone missed it on the previous page, the pricing calculator is at:  http://www.n-sider.com/newsview.php?type=story&storyid=2440
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: Kuromatsu on October 01, 2006, 12:49:55 PM
$600 for the PS3 and $60 for a game? Thats insane. I've heard that the controllers are bad too, but I don't know
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: HolyAarom on October 01, 2006, 02:38:51 PM
Nintendo Wii with Wii Sports-$249.99
Florida sales tax-6%

Total- $264.99

I'm assuming that the description is true that the set comes with one controller.

I'll wait until Brawl and Galaxy comes out. I'm not getting Twilight Princess. Not even for Gamecube.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: SuperDragonYoshi on October 01, 2006, 04:19:07 PM
wii w/ wii sports - 249.99
1 wiimote - 39.99
1 nunchuck - 19.99
1 classic controller - 19.99
Twilight Princess - 49.99
Madden NFL 2007 - 49.99
Red Steel - 49.99
1000 wii points - 10.00
Florida Sales Tax - 6%

$519.33

Jeez, when you put it all together like that, everything seems so expensive... but in retrospect, with that much money i could have nothing but a bare-bones PS3, or a 360 with a wireless adapter...
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: Pt_Peach on October 01, 2006, 07:19:42 PM
Hmmmm, let me join the crowd.

Wii Console w/ (1)Wiimote, (1)Nunchuck, and (1) copy of Wii Sports - 249.99
Extra Wiimote - $39.99
Extra Nunchuck - $19.99
Classic Controller - $19.99
2000 Wii Points - $20.00
California Sales Tax - 7.25%

My total: $376.00

Ouch! I felt that. But now lets deduct and see how much I personally have to pay.

Total:                   $376.00
Mom's paying for:        $249.99
So I pay:                $127.00

So that's all I need to raise to buy it. That seemed like a weight lifted.

And if I don't buy the 2000 Wii Points right away or the Classic Controller right away, that makes the total

Deduct:

Classic Controller:  -$19.99
2000 Wii Points:     -$20.00

My Total:             $87.01
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: Vidgmchtr on October 02, 2006, 09:45:34 AM
Hm...

Wii (w/ 1 Wii-mote, nunchuck, and Wii Sports) = $250
Twilight Princess = $50
New York Tax ~8.375%

I'm too lazy to get the total. Figure it out yourself.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: Luigison on October 02, 2006, 11:17:28 AM
Hm...

Wii (w/ 1 Wii-mote, nunchuck, and Wii Sports) = $250
Twilight Princess = $50
New York Tax ~8.375%

I'm too lazy to get the total. Figure it out yourself.
To lazy to copy and paste from http://www.n-sider.com/newsview.php?type=story&storyid=2440  That is lazy.  Your total is $325.10.
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: SolidShroom on October 02, 2006, 01:50:08 PM
I'm so glad to live in ol' tax free Delaware
My total is $319.98
For...
I also want to try to get Trauma Center: Second Opinion, which would bring my total up to $369.97, but I'll see how much money I get until then, and if my mother will be willing to loan me any...
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: GiftedGirl on October 02, 2006, 03:46:13 PM
I think the Wii wiill DEFINETLY make it because(to sightly misquote Kermit the Frog) "When Wii pull together, Wii can do anything!"
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: Sunbun on October 02, 2006, 04:39:29 PM
Too bad there aren't going to be any Muppets games at launch, eh Gifted?
Title: Re: Will Wii Make it?
Post by: GiftedGirl on October 02, 2006, 07:28:21 PM
Yeah. But there was a Muppet Party Cruise for GameCube! *goes off in search of it*