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Title: More Brawl Assist Trophies: Waluigi and Stafy (and some thoughts!)
Post by: David on December 14, 2007, 02:02:21 AM
Waluigi will be appearing in Super Smash Bros. Brawl (http://www.themushroomkingdom.net/games/ssbb) as an assist trophy, clad in his traditional outfit and carrying a tennis racket.  The Smash Bros. Dojo site (http://www.smashbros.com)'s 12/14/07 update revealed Waluigi (as well as Stafy, that loveable starfish from under the sea) in all his purple glory.

At this point, I'm starting to wonder how many Nintendo franchises won't be in Brawl.

Here's a preliminary list, culled from The Nintendo Database (http://nindb.classicgaming.gamespy.com/).  I trimmed out any games that already seem to have character/music/item/whatever references in Brawl... how many do you think we'll eliminate by the time the game launches?

Stuff in bold represent games that had trophies/music/items in Melee.

(I'm making no guarantees this list is currently complete, nor up to date; however, it generally seems to be accurate.)

1080° Snowboarding
Alleyway
Arm Wrestling (arcade)
Band Brothers
Battleclash
Card Hero
Chibi Robo
Custom Robo
Doshin the Giant
Duck Hunt
Electroplankton
Eternal Darkness (the ip belongs to Nintendo, I believe)
F-1 Race
Game & Watch
Golden Sun
Gumshoe
Hajimari no Mori
Happy Panechu!
HeliFire
Hogan's Alley
Hotel Dusk
Joy Mecha Fight
Kaeru no Tameni Kanha Naru (the guy that turns into a frog -- cameo in Link's Awakening)
Kururin
Mach Rider
Magical Vacation
Marvellous
Mole Mania
Nazo no Murasamejou
Oendon/Elite Beat Agents
Picross
Polarium
Radar Mission
RadarScope
Sennen Kazoku
Shin Oni Ga Shima
Short Order & Eggsplode
Sky Skipper
Solar Striker
Space Fever
Space Firebird / Space Demon
Space Launcher
Star Tropics
Stunt Race FX
Sutte Hakkun
Tantei Club
Teleroboxer
Time Twist
To The Earth
Tomato Adventure
Trace Memory
Urban Champion
Wave Race
Wii Sports / Play
Wild Gunman
Yakuman (Mahjong)
Yuu Yuu Ki

All the generic sports titles
Title: Re: More Brawl Assist Trophies: Waluigi and Stafy (and some thoughts!)
Post by: WarpRattler on December 14, 2007, 02:20:42 AM
Alleyway or Electroplankton stuff would be pretty cool.
Title: Re: More Brawl Assist Trophies: Waluigi and Stafy (and some thoughts!)
Post by: BP on December 14, 2007, 02:34:11 AM
Sorry, PaperLuigi, but I've got to smile at this... Poor Waluigi. He sure seems angry... he should have been beating up Wario in the screenshots.
Title: Re: More Brawl Assist Trophies: Waluigi and Stafy (and some thoughts!)
Post by: ShadowBrain on December 14, 2007, 07:30:45 AM
Best Assist Trophies yet! As for more Nintendo series being included... who knows? These two were inevitable, anyway, though.
Title: Re: More Brawl Assist Trophies: Waluigi and Stafy (and some thoughts!)
Post by: ColorPrinter on December 14, 2007, 08:01:18 AM
Brain age music was seen, as well as a Bulborb pikmin trophy.
Title: Re: More Brawl Assist Trophies: Waluigi and Stafy (and some thoughts!)
Post by: Presidente on December 14, 2007, 09:18:25 AM
At least Waluigi wont be playable.  If they put anymore data into Brawl's CD they'll either have to make a second CD or it will explode.
Title: Re: More Brawl Assist Trophies: Waluigi and Stafy (and some thoughts!)
Post by: Boo Dudley on December 14, 2007, 10:26:29 AM
Chibi-Robo, probably not, because it being Wal-Mart exclusive.

Radar Scope, definetly not. The only thing that game was good for was fodder for the Donkey Kong machines
Title: Re: More Brawl Assist Trophies: Waluigi and Stafy (and some thoughts!)
Post by: Toad on December 14, 2007, 11:00:38 AM
Yesterday's update (Mario Circuit) and today's update (Waluigi and Starfy AT's) seem to confirm a little theory that I've had regarding playable characters..

When the Mario Kart stage was first show in video form (the first Brawl video, months ago) all of the racers were Shyguys. I'm going to assume, now that we've had a real update about the MK stage, that all characters from past MK games are either going to be playable, be AT's, or be non-playable NPC's.

These past two updates seem to confirm my theory: we've already got most of the cast of the first two MK games playable (Mario, Luigi, Peach, Yoshi, Bowser, DK, Wario) Toad and DKjr haven't been in SSB yet, but both were trophies in Melee.

Petey Pirahna and ROB the Robot both have been confirmed as NPC's (Petey was in MKDD and ROB was a secret character in MKDS).

Waluigi being an AT seems to wrap things up nicely.

This makes me think how everybody else from the MK games (MKDD and MKDS in particular) are going to be in.. If Toad were playable, they could give him a Toadette costume, just like Peach has a Daisy costume.

EDIT: I forgot that Petey was a hidden character. Whoopsie!
Title: Re: More Brawl Assist Trophies: Waluigi and Stafy (and some thoughts!)
Post by: MEGAߥTE on December 14, 2007, 11:35:27 AM
Chibi-Robo, probably not, because it being Wal-Mart exclusive.
It was only Wal-Mart exclusive in the US.  SSBB is not being developed in the US.
Title: Re: More Brawl Assist Trophies: Waluigi and Stafy (and some thoughts!)
Post by: Kojinka on December 14, 2007, 12:53:39 PM
I'm neutral about Waluigi being an AT.  I kinda wanted him playable, but at the same time I didn't want him playable.
Title: Re: More Brawl Assist Trophies: Waluigi and Stafy (and some thoughts!)
Post by: Boo Dudley on December 14, 2007, 02:16:00 PM
It was only Wal-Mart exclusive in the US.  SSBB is not being developed in the US.

Duh. But who know how far Wal-Marts malicious tentacles reach?
Title: Re: More Brawl Assist Trophies: Waluigi and Stafy (and some thoughts!)
Post by: MEGAߥTE on December 14, 2007, 02:25:28 PM
...

It wasn't even Wal-Mart exclusive in Canada.  And the first game wasn't exclusive at all.
Title: Re: More Brawl Assist Trophies: Waluigi and Stafy (and some thoughts!)
Post by: SolidShroom on December 14, 2007, 03:03:25 PM
Hmm, there's no Sin and Punishment on this list, although it's a Nintendo game and its main character Saki is already an assist trophy. Also, there's still Metal Gear Solid and the Sonic series that could have assist trophies (Well, Metal Gear Solid already has an assist trophy, The Grey Fox, but Sonic doesn't).
Title: Re: More Brawl Assist Trophies: Waluigi and Stafy (and some thoughts!)
Post by: Shyguy92 on December 14, 2007, 03:52:08 PM
If Toad were playable, they could give him a Toadette costume, just like Peach has a Daisy costume.
It'd have to be Toadsworth. :(
Title: Re: More Brawl Assist Trophies: Waluigi and Stafy (and some thoughts!)
Post by: PaperLuigi on December 14, 2007, 04:19:14 PM
Sorry, PaperLuigi, but I've got to smile at this... Poor Waluigi. He sure seems angry... he should have been beating up Wario in the screenshots.

Meh, I don't feel too bad about it. At first, I was disappointed, but there are so many more characters I can play as. The fact that they put Sonic and Wario in it had distracted me from the fact that he's only an assist trophy. Still, it would have been nice to have him as a playable character.

I still wonder if Luigi will be playable or not. I have no doubt he'll be involved in some way, but if he's an AT or a playable character has yet to be answered. It would seem rather stupid to include Mario, Wario and Waluigi without Luigi.
Title: Re: More Brawl Assist Trophies: Waluigi and Stafy (and some thoughts!)
Post by: Toad on December 14, 2007, 05:53:06 PM
It'd have to be Toadsworth. :(


That Toad could be just one of the generic toads that has Toad's coloring. Moves can be changed around you know.. -_-;;
Title: Re: More Brawl Assist Trophies: Waluigi and Stafy (and some thoughts!)
Post by: BP on December 14, 2007, 05:57:57 PM
Luigi is much too important a Nintendo character to be dropped. He's only always hidden because no two clones are ever both starters.
Title: Re: More Brawl Assist Trophies: Waluigi and Stafy (and some thoughts!)
Post by: Presidente on December 14, 2007, 06:32:23 PM
I think to make Luigi less of a clone they should give him his spin move from SMG.
Title: Re: More Brawl Assist Trophies: Waluigi and Stafy (and some thoughts!)
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on December 14, 2007, 07:20:41 PM
But that move would be no different than his Luigi Cyclone attack.

I don't even get why people want to see luigi with a completely original moveset. He's always been a slightly different version of Mario. He started life as a palette swapped player 2 and so far he hasn't made any major difference between himself and Mario.
Title: Re: More Brawl Assist Trophies: Waluigi and Stafy (and some thoughts!)
Post by: Shyguy92 on December 14, 2007, 07:28:58 PM
I think there'll be Luigi, but not as a clone. Maybe make him represent SMG, with a bunch of different moves like shooting star bits, spinning, and maybe some moves based on SMG's unique power-ups? That'd be coool.
Title: Re: More Brawl Assist Trophies: Waluigi and Stafy (and some thoughts!)
Post by: MEGAߥTE on December 14, 2007, 07:44:03 PM
Luigi will probably just suck.









With the Poltergust 3000.
Title: Re: More Brawl Assist Trophies: Waluigi and Stafy (and some thoughts!)
Post by: BP on December 14, 2007, 07:47:00 PM
Poltergust.
Title: Re: More Brawl Assist Trophies: Waluigi and Stafy (and some thoughts!)
Post by: Thorn on December 14, 2007, 07:56:50 PM
They did give Mario FLUDD, so who knows? Could make for some interesting play situations.
Title: Re: More Brawl Assist Trophies: Waluigi and Stafy (and some thoughts!)
Post by: Boo Dudley on December 14, 2007, 09:43:13 PM
...

It wasn't even Wal-Mart exclusive in Canada.  And the first game wasn't exclusive at all.

"..." indeed. I made a lapse in judgment, then I made a stupid joke about it. Simple as that.
Title: Re: More Brawl Assist Trophies: Waluigi and Stafy (and some thoughts!)
Post by: David on December 15, 2007, 04:10:14 AM
Just a few updates to the list.

1080° Snowboarding
Alleyway
Arm Wrestling (arcade)
Band Brothers
Battleclash
Card Hero
Chibi Robo
Custom Robo
Doshin the Giant
Duck Hunt
Electroplankton
Eternal Darkness (the ip belongs to Nintendo, I believe)
F-1 Race
Game & Watch
Golden Sun
Gumshoe
Hajimari no Mori
Happy Panechu!
HeliFire
Hogan's Alley
Hotel Dusk
Joy Mecha Fight
Kaeru no Tameni Kanha Naru (the guy that turns into a frog -- cameo in Link's Awakening)
Kururin
Mach Rider
Magical Vacation
Marvellous
Mole Mania
Nazo no Murasamejou
Oendon/Elite Beat Agents
Picross
Polarium
Radar Mission
RadarScope
Sennen Kazoku
Shin Oni Ga Shima
Short Order & Eggsplode
Sky Skipper
Solar Striker
Space Fever
Space Firebird / Space Demon
Space Launcher
Star Tropics
Stunt Race FX
Sutte Hakkun
Tantei Club
Teleroboxer
Time Twist
To The Earth
Tomato Adventure
Trace Memory
Urban Champion
Wave Race
Wii Sports / Play
Wild Gunman
Yakuman (Mahjong)
Yuu Yuu Ki

All the generic sports titles
Title: Re: More Brawl Assist Trophies: Waluigi and Stafy (and some thoughts!)
Post by: Kojinka on December 15, 2007, 11:55:06 AM
Give Luigi his Thunderhand move from Superstar Saga.
Title: Re: More Brawl Assist Trophies: Waluigi and Stafy (and some thoughts!)
Post by: Presidente on December 15, 2007, 06:02:51 PM
Seconded.
Title: Re: More Brawl Assist Trophies: Waluigi and Stafy (and some thoughts!)
Post by: MEGAߥTE on December 15, 2007, 06:10:57 PM
David,
Kururin had a trophy in Melee.
Arm Wrestling is essentially part of the Punch-Out series.
Title: Re: More Brawl Assist Trophies: Waluigi and Stafy (and some thoughts!)
Post by: Thorn on December 15, 2007, 10:39:43 PM
Actually, wait, while we're on the subject of Luigi, give him a Mr. L costume! O:
Title: Re: More Brawl Assist Trophies: Waluigi and Stafy (and some thoughts!)
Post by: The Chef on December 16, 2007, 10:10:58 AM
Oy.... see, that's what bothers me about the Mario RPGs. They aways have someone or something that suffers from Memetic Mutation (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MemeticMutation) to some degree.. I'm sick of hearing about Mr. L already. |:(
Title: Re: More Brawl Assist Trophies: Waluigi and Stafy (and some thoughts!)
Post by: Kojinka on December 17, 2007, 10:32:56 PM
Oy.... see, that's what bothers me about the Mario RPGs. They aways have someone or something that suffers from Memetic Mutation (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MemeticMutation) to some degree.. I'm sick of hearing about Mr. L already. |:(
They actually mentioned YouTube Poop on that page!
Title: Re: More Brawl Assist Trophies: Waluigi and Stafy (and some thoughts!)
Post by: BP on December 17, 2007, 11:47:56 PM
Ah, The Chef, Thorn is right. We all want Luigi to have Mr. L as a costume change! You do too. I'm more outrageously sick and tired, no, EXHAUSTED of hearing about YouTube Poop, personally.
Title: Re: More Brawl Assist Trophies: Waluigi and Stafy (and some thoughts!)
Post by: Kojinka on December 18, 2007, 01:40:05 AM
Ah, The Chef, Thorn is right. We all want Luigi to have Mr. L as a costume change! You do too. I'm more outrageously sick and tired, no, EXHAUSTED of hearing about YouTube Poop, personally.
As a pooper, I'm tired about how Mama Luigi and CD-i are always being associated with YouTube Poop, while they fail to mention sources, like Dr. Robotnik, that haven't been completely done to death.
Title: Re: More Brawl Assist Trophies: Waluigi and Stafy (and some thoughts!)
Post by: goodie on December 18, 2007, 07:05:39 PM
I still can't understand what the point of youtube poop is.
And who is this Mr. L that everyone keeps referring to, anyway?
Title: Re: More Brawl Assist Trophies: Waluigi and Stafy (and some thoughts!)
Post by: PaperLuigi on December 18, 2007, 07:11:57 PM
I dislike youtube poop with the fire of 1,000 suns. A few of them are pretty funny, but most are just utter rubbish.
Title: Re: More Brawl Assist Trophies: Waluigi and Stafy (and some thoughts!)
Post by: Kojinka on December 18, 2007, 08:43:17 PM
I still can't understand what the point of youtube poop is.
There is no point to poops.  By basic definition, they are just confused remixes of certain media created to confuse/tick off a targeted audience, while the maker of said remix laughs at the audience's confusion and/or anger.
Title: Re: More Brawl Assist Trophies: Waluigi and Stafy (and some thoughts!)
Post by: The Chef on December 22, 2007, 01:31:09 PM
The fact that you never shut up about it is enough to make us angry already. >:(
Title: Re: More Brawl Assist Trophies: Waluigi and Stafy (and some thoughts!)
Post by: Suffix on December 22, 2007, 02:13:03 PM
Hey, hey-- in all actuality, she usually only replies about YTP in situations when somebody else brings it up. Sometimes unnecessarily.
Title: Re: More Brawl Assist Trophies: Waluigi and Stafy (and some thoughts!)
Post by: The Chef on December 22, 2007, 02:30:03 PM
Well.... if you say so. >_>
Title: Re: More Brawl Assist Trophies: Waluigi and Stafy (and some thoughts!)
Post by: bobman37 on December 22, 2007, 02:41:28 PM
I was getting my daily fix of Team Fortress 2 YouTube videos the other day.

I was looking for all the "Meet the Team" videos, interviews with each character class from the game. I can only find about 5 of the 9 characters.

One of the "related videos" was entitled "Meet the Poop". It did not occur to me until after I clicked the video that it would be a YouTube Poop.

I personally thought that YouTube Poop was Kojinka's own little creation with maybe some of her friends as an inside joke. But I guess YouTube Poop is actually kind of a big thing. I had seen one YouTube Poop previous to this Team Fortress 2 one, and I got bored in < 2 minutes.

So I reluctantly watched the Team Fortress 2 YouTube Poop, since I was out of fresh TF2 videos, besides your generic gameplay videos.

I actually thought it was pretty funny, since I relate to the topic (Even though I don't have the game yet, I've seen enough videos to know the game pretty well). The first two seconds is what grabbed me.

Here are the links. Watch one of the original videos first to understand what's going on, then watch the YouTube Poop.

If this video doesn't make you want to play this game immediately, you're insane. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq-XaBmRsg8&feature=related) (Ignore/close the ad at the bottom of the video)
YouTube Poop (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73iEPlMiQFQ)
Title: Re: More Brawl Assist Trophies: Waluigi and Stafy (and some thoughts!)
Post by: Kojinka on December 22, 2007, 04:03:58 PM
Less YTP more Assist Trophies!  Besides, I myself only care about certain kinds of poops, and it Doesn't include Mama Luigi or CD-i.

On topic, it would have been nice seeing Waluigi playable, but concidering he's never starred in his own game, I figured his odds wouldn't be very good.  I'm just glad he is getting some sort of recognition.
Title: Re: More Brawl Assist Trophies: Waluigi and Stafy (and some thoughts!)
Post by: ShadowBrain on December 22, 2007, 05:20:16 PM
Isn't a YTP basically YouTube's equivalent of YTMNDs?
Title: Re: More Brawl Assist Trophies: Waluigi and Stafy (and some thoughts!)
Post by: Lizard Dude on December 22, 2007, 06:03:40 PM
I was looking for all the "Meet the Team" videos, interviews with each character class from the game. I can only find about 5 of the 9 characters.
Only 4 are yet out AFAIK.
Title: Re: More Brawl Assist Trophies: Waluigi and Stafy (and some thoughts!)
Post by: bobman37 on December 22, 2007, 06:10:55 PM
I know. That's why I can only find those four.
Title: Re: More Brawl Assist Trophies: Waluigi and Stafy (and some thoughts!)
Post by: Shyguy92 on December 23, 2007, 05:57:24 PM
I can only find about 5 of the 9 characters.
Title: Re: More Brawl Assist Trophies: Waluigi and Stafy (and some thoughts!)
Post by: bobman37 on December 23, 2007, 07:34:49 PM
I can only find about 5 of the 9 characters.
Title: Re: More Brawl Assist Trophies: Waluigi and Stafy (and some thoughts!)
Post by: MaxVance on December 23, 2007, 09:15:16 PM
You're giving yourself a pretty large tolerance there.