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Title: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Black Mage on May 10, 2006, 08:14:27 PM
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http://revolution.ign.com/articles/707/707504p1.html
Smash Bros. Brawl
Playable Characters unveiled!
by IGN Staff

May 10, 2006 - Nintendo just pulled a fast one on us. At an after-hours press briefing a mere minute ago, the company pulled another ace out of its sleeve: Smash Bros. Brawl -- the next installment in Nintendo's popular Super Smash Bros. series.

Details are just now rolling in, but we have confirmed the following playable characters:

# Pit (Kid Icarus)
# Solid Snake (Metal Gear Solid)
# Zero Suit Samus (Metroid)
# Meta-Knight (Kirby)

More as it breaks.
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Trailer: http://media.revolution.ign.com/media/748/748545/vids_1.html
Pictures: http://www.joystiq.com/2006/05/10/super-smash-bros-brawl-revealed-for-wii-featuring-solid-snake/
More pictures: http://media.revolution.ign.com/media/748/748545/imgs_1.html
Also, Wario is in there.
Trailer Music by Nobou Uematsu: http://www.smashbros.com/en/music/index.html

Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Blue Toad on May 10, 2006, 08:19:05 PM
O.O
And the awesome gets awesomer...
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: BP on May 10, 2006, 08:26:04 PM
I knew Meta-Knight would be playable. Finally.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: TEM on May 10, 2006, 08:46:07 PM
Could the Sonic in SSB fantasy actually come true?
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Black Mage on May 10, 2006, 08:58:03 PM
First post updated with more Pictures.

http://media.revolution.ign.com/media/748/748545/imgs_1.html

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Under the direction of series creator Masahiro Sakurai, Super Smash Bros. Brawl will feature classic, GameCube-style combat -- not Wii-style motion-controlled combat. That means players who prefer to play the game with the traditional control setup can do so using the GameCube control-style they're already accustomed to while the new motion control adds a new dimension previously not available in fighting games.

The game also features a range of new nasty toys, such as the ability to unleash a puppy from Nintendogs that will run up to the screen, put its paws up and obscure the view of the action. Mario, Kirby, Pikachu and Link have been confirmed as returning characters. Sakurai confirmed that Wario actually has a fart attack and that Solid Snake can use his trusty cardboard box. In the video trailer, Snake gets out of the box and says "It's showtime!"

Sakurai said the decision to include Solid Snake when Hideo Kojima himself practically "begged" to include the Metal Gear character in the last Smash Bros. game. When asked about the possibility of Sonic the Hedgehod appearing in the game as well, Shigeru Miyamoto said: "There are probably possibilities for other third parties as well, and it maybe that even know there are corporate discussions going on about including some of these other characters."

Even better, the game will be fully online playable in addition to featuring a robust multiplayer mode.

The bad news is that Super Smash Bros. Brawl will no longer be a Wii launch title, but will instead be released in 2007.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: BP on May 10, 2006, 09:07:37 PM
Wario with a fart attack?? Nintendo's been reading too many Fungi Forum Stories.But oh crap, he's wearing his Wario Ware gear. I want just Wario... maybe his normal clothes will be an alternate outfit for him? I gotta say... the graphics are TOO good. Mario's overalls seem a bit overdone. Oh well, the game will be epic. Rating?
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on May 10, 2006, 09:27:25 PM
Totally awesome. While I'm against the inclusion of third party characters in a SSB title, the game looks so great I can overlook Solid Snake. Hopefully most of the people from Melee are included along with any newcomers *crosses fingers for Captain Olimar*
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Black Mage on May 10, 2006, 09:29:06 PM
UPDATE: Video Trailer Link: http://media.revolution.ign.com/media/748/748545/vids_1.html
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: rubberducky on May 10, 2006, 09:40:18 PM
i saw the trailor its hillarious. SSB needed humor.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Black Mage on May 10, 2006, 09:55:51 PM
Wonder why the music was so good?

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The main theme was created for us by none other than famed Final Fantasy composer, Nobuo Uematsu!

Additionally, opera singer Ken Nishikiori has also participated in this project on vocals.

...And as a special service to readers of this site, I can say that the game's music will be performed by a full orchestra.

It will be a deluxe chorus complete with lyrics in Latin.


It's of a slightly different disposition than previous Smash Bros. games, wouldn't you say?

I also want to change the atmosphere of the game itself a little, too. But you'll just have to look forward to how I'll be doing that.

http://www.smashbros.com/en/music/index.html

Uematsu. Yeah.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Bodknocks on May 10, 2006, 10:00:51 PM
Now we know what Sakurai meant when he said he was thinking "outside the box".

Nobuo Uematsu? Could this mean an appearance from an N-Gen Final Fantasy character? Let's just hope he's behind the Brawl music, and that this wasn't just something he whipped up for the trailer.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Black Mage on May 10, 2006, 10:08:52 PM
It's possible, but certainly not because of Uematsu. As you can recall, Uematsu went freelance, and left Square-Enix within the last year or so. Though I personally don't care to see any Final Fantasy characters, it's a possibility.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Bodknocks on May 10, 2006, 10:13:54 PM
Yeah, I thought of that after I posted. Let's just hope he's onboard for the rest of Brawl's soundtrack.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Hirocon on May 10, 2006, 10:32:17 PM
I'm keeping my fingers crossed for Michael Jones as a playable character, with his trusty island yo-yo, his devastating supernova and his unpredictable astericks (http://www.classicgaming.com/startropics/st_items_6.asp).
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Black Mage on May 10, 2006, 10:37:59 PM
Give me Captain N and I die a happy man.

Start button.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: DJ Gear on May 10, 2006, 10:50:33 PM
No joke, I nearly had to change my underwear when I saw this. Characters look great (although I think Link looks a LITTLE too detailed for the environment, they should have developed a central art style for all to match at least a little), death moves look totally sweet, and Zero Suit Samus is the coolest idea since SSB itself.

I'm on board with the hope of Uematsu doing the full track as well. His work rocks hard, and I'd love to hear his takes on Nintendo music.

I REALLY hope this comes out shortly after launch. Or at launch, for that matter.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: smfan1085 on May 10, 2006, 11:02:57 PM
This game is rather different from what I expected.

It has Wario! Finally! And Meta-Knight!

And it has third-party characters in it, which might even include Sonic!

I personally feel like they would have done better not to include a character from a game series like Metal Gear Solid (at least one of those games was rated M), but I suppose it doesn't matter, since it's just a character. I wonder what this game will end up being rated, though...?

That music is great. It's interesting that they're going to put such beautiful, uplifting music in a video game.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: CreamCat on May 10, 2006, 11:32:34 PM
I personally feel like they would have done better not to include a character from a game series like Metal Gear Solid (at least one of those games was rated M), but I suppose it doesn't matter, since it's just a character. I wonder what this game will end up being rated, though...?
I think it was a very smart move on Nintendo's part to include Snake in SSBB, due to the fact they are constantley referred to as "the kiddy company" (and the name Wii isn't going to help), but putting a character from an M rated game in one of their major titles could help shed that image. Oh and I doubt it'll be rated anything over T.


One another note I'm extremely giddy to see Wario, Pit and Meta Knight being used as characters and can only hope that Diddy makes it in to.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: smfan1085 on May 10, 2006, 11:49:26 PM
I think it was a very smart move on Nintendo's part to include Snake in SSBB, due to the fact they are constantley referred to as "the kiddy company" (and the name Wii isn't going to help), but putting a character from an M rated game in one of their major titles could help shed that image. Oh and I doubt it'll be rated anything over T.

I still don't think it was a good move. Maybe an effective way to boost sales, but still not good. As far as standards go, it would have been best if they would have used characters from at least relatively innocent games. And I don't think the idiots who say "Nintendo is a kiddy company" really deserve consideration of any sort, to be honest about it.

But like I said, it likely doesn't matter that this character is in here, since he's only a character, and his mere presence doesn't add "M-ratedness" to the game.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: CreamCat on May 10, 2006, 11:58:26 PM
I still don't think it was a good move. Maybe an effective way to boost sales, but still not good. As far as standards go, it would have been best if they would have used characters from at least relatively innocent games. And I don't think the idiots who say "Nintendo is a kiddy company" really deserve consideration of any sort, to be honest about it.

Ah, I get what you're saying. I can't agree more that Snake probably doesn't belong anywhere near this game and idiots who dub Nintendo the kiddy-widdy company don't deserve to see him in it, but I will admit I do think it is kind of cool that he's in it and I'll more then likely love playing as him.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Deezer on May 11, 2006, 12:57:18 AM
Interview - Miyamoto and Sakurai on Nintendo Wii
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=64601
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Otaku1990 on May 11, 2006, 06:22:28 AM
I cried of joy... Unbelievable...
Let me just say: "SUUUPER... SMAAAAAASH BROTHERS... BRAAAAAAWWWWWLLL!"
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Kojinka on May 11, 2006, 06:25:09 AM
*drool*  I had a feeling they'd add Metaknight, Pit, and Wario.  Snake's addition was very unexpected, but that's cool.  I wonder if Sega is gonna beg Sakurai to add Sonic and Tails...
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: MEGAߥTE on May 11, 2006, 10:34:02 AM
Smash Bros. Dojo (http://smashbros.com/) is a website run by the director of Super Smash Bros., Masahiro Sakurai.  As was done with SSBM, the site will continually update with new media for the game.  This time, however, the site is also in English.  Already there is some very interesting stuff, including the fact that the main theme was composed by Nobuo Uematsu and the game's music will be performed by a full orchestra!  The movie and a four page story on how the game came to be is also up there.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Hope(N Forever) on May 11, 2006, 10:42:42 AM
I bet there are more characters to announce, and this game is not yet ready to be played either. Meaning there is still a chance SEGA might approve adding Sonic into the mix. After all, when one company does something, like Konami had done, many other may attempt to imitate as well, especially with a franchise like Super Smash Bros.!

I seen the primary movie... and I think I cried...
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Rookie on May 11, 2006, 01:18:06 PM
Apparently, Nintendo is open for character suggestions:

http://www.smashbros.com/jp/toukou/index.html

Only I can't read Japanese...
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: neotev on May 11, 2006, 01:37:59 PM
I also do not like the fact they put Snake in the game but then again hes only a character and the graphics are awesome I cant wait
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Pt_Peach on May 11, 2006, 02:04:30 PM
I just hope that they put in the rest of the characters from Melee. Otherwise, THIS GAME IS SOOOOO COOOL!!!!! Samus with no suit? Snake? Icarus!!! Woot!
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Chef on May 11, 2006, 03:52:14 PM
When I first heard the news, the song 'Hallelulijah' literally popped into my head. Then I saw the trailer and thought, There IS a God. This is gonna be awesome....

Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Lizard Dude on May 11, 2006, 10:21:19 PM
To me, suitless Samus seems to slightly cheapen the mystique of suitless Samus, but I guess Zero Mission already did that (it was worth it).
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: BP on May 11, 2006, 10:38:39 PM
Oh one thing... about Pit, when I saw the trophy, I thought "That looks awful." When rumors about him as a playable character started, I though "That weirdo on the trophy? I hope not." But they changed his look and he looks really cool. I hope those wings don't give him too much of an advantage though...
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Suffix on May 11, 2006, 11:18:58 PM
 I'm not a real fan of choral music, but even after hearing the large amount in the main theme, I didn't come out unhappy. I still enjoyed it, even if I preferred Melee's theme.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Hirocon on May 12, 2006, 02:04:53 AM
I'm a big fan of the Final Fantasy music, and the new theme isn't bad, but it doesn't seem quite as catchy as the Melee theme.

I just read something startling.  Apparently Star Tropics (http://www.classicgaming.com/startropics), one of my favorite games for the NES, was never even released in Japan.  No wonder Nintendo doesn't care about the franchise; their primary audience hasn't even heard of it.  My guess is the odds of Michael Jones appeareing as a playable character in SSBB are very low.  He probably won't even be a trophy.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Sqrt2 on May 12, 2006, 02:51:59 AM
I hope the only character lost from melee is Pichu and that Young Lik is transformed into his WW counterpart. Also I'm not too sure about whether the 'super' powerup featured in the video is a good thing or not.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Forest Guy on May 12, 2006, 01:13:15 PM
I'm perfectly fine with 3rd-Party characters being brought in, as long as they actually are a prominent figure in Nintendo. 'cause think, some other 3rd party characters that'd make sense would be Bomberman or Pac-Man or Mega Man. All those guys have had a huge career on Nintendo systems, so it's not like sticking Master Chief or something obscure like that, in. Plus, the other new characters seem good too, since I absolutely wanted Meta-Knight in there, right from the start. (And as for Pit, they spruced him up a bit so it's all good.)


Most important of all however, people, a moment of brilliance dawned on me: 3rd party character support means we might see Geno or Mallow perhaps, in the next Smash Bros.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Mr. Melee on May 12, 2006, 03:08:06 PM
*applauds for Nintendo* This game will be the best one yet! Just look at the improved graphics, new characters, and I bet the music will be ten times better (it was awesome to start out with!). Nintendo is coming through, and there are so many other games that are going to be available. I better start saving up money so I can buy them. :P
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Ludwig on May 12, 2006, 04:01:54 PM
This game looks awesome.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Kojinka on May 12, 2006, 04:05:13 PM
Apparently, Nintendo is open for character suggestions:

http://www.smashbros.com/jp/toukou/index.html

Only I can't read Japanese...

Anyone on these forums able to translate?
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Bigluigifan1.0 on May 12, 2006, 08:24:25 PM
Is it okay to cheat and use Google's beta? If so: http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.smashbros.com%2Fjp%2Ftoukou%2Findex.html&langpair=ja%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF8
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Rookie on May 13, 2006, 08:47:16 AM
Is it okay to cheat and use Google's beta? If so: http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.smashbros.com%2Fjp%2Ftoukou%2Findex.html&langpair=ja%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF8
That works for that page, but we also need:
http://cgi.nintendo.co.jp/cgi-bin/smashbros/article.cgi
translated. It doesn't translate w/google or babel fish for some reason.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Kojinka on May 13, 2006, 09:07:19 AM
Any other translation engines out there?
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Glorb on May 13, 2006, 06:10:20 PM
When I saw the trailer on G4 my stomach exploded, then healed itself so it could explode again. Solid Snake? Kid Icarus? Nuclear farts? Wario? The desert? Nintendogs? A Latin chorus? Online play? Meta-Knight? It's everything, but in one game! Now they need fire-breathing unicorns, X-wings, roller skates, ninjas, pirates with flamethrowers, characters from Megaman, Sonic and Pac-Man, and dinosaurs, and the game will be the ultimate thing ever in the history of the universe.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Ultima Shadow on May 13, 2006, 06:41:54 PM
SSBB needs the Evil Bread characters. :\
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on May 13, 2006, 06:58:48 PM
I agree with Sqrt2. Pichu is the only character from Melee that should be cut. Falco is just too cool to be cut, Young Link has different enough stats from Link to truly be considered a clone, Roy is a stronger but slower version of Marth but both are highly used by many players and Ganondorf just needs to get some new moves instead of being a C. Falcon clone. Dr. Mario can either stay a hidden character or be a Mario costume change, it doesn't really matter either way.

I just hope the inclusion of Snake and the requests don't lead to people overdoing it and turning it from "Super Smash Bros" to "Let's see how many different characters we can fit in here". Third party characters need to be kept to a very minimum. This is, first and foremost, a game showcasing the many franchises of Nintendo after all.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Mr. Melee on May 13, 2006, 07:23:10 PM
You know what would be funny? If a character included was Goku from DBZ. That would be an interesting hidden character.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Kojinka on May 13, 2006, 07:23:38 PM
I'd like Pichu's stats to change so his electric attacks don't hurt him, or have him be replaced by Raichu, who'd be a stronger, heavier Pikachu.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Ultima Shadow on May 13, 2006, 08:26:26 PM
Pichu's only disadvantage compared to Pika is self-damaging and weight, and Pichu is faster and stronger, so it balances out.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Sqrt2 on May 15, 2006, 03:33:31 AM
Pichu's only disadvantage compared to Pika is self-damaging and weight, and Pichu is faster and stronger, so it balances out.

And that his computer AI stinks.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Chef on May 15, 2006, 01:15:07 PM
A lot of the AI stinks. That's one thing I hope they added- better AI.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Forest Guy on May 15, 2006, 05:36:24 PM
If they stooped down low enough to put a Dragon Ball Z character in, I would refuse to buy the game.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Blue Toad on May 15, 2006, 05:43:52 PM
I would still buy the game, but heave a heavy sigh of disappointment every time I looked at that annoying anime character...

I personally think Pichu should be dropped as well, just because it would make Pikachu's moves that much cooler and more appreciated. 
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: smfan1085 on May 15, 2006, 07:40:17 PM
I agree that DBZ is stupid.

But I still would buy the game if it had a DBZ character in it.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Chef on May 15, 2006, 08:08:20 PM
The chances of anime characters making it into SSB are 0-0. Heck, we don't even know if many other 3rd party characters will make it. Snake was just a favor for Hideo Kojima, after all.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: BP on May 15, 2006, 10:25:07 PM
Pichu needs to be dropped, or SEVERELY changed. I believe you're wrong, Ultima Shadow, in him being stronger than Pikachu... I'd check if my GameCube worked, but I think the trophy specifically said the only thing he does better then Pikachu is run. Whic is all you'll be using him for since he's so useless. If he's going to be kept, he needs new and stronger moves, to be a tiny bit faster, and to not take so much effort to unlock.
Dr. Mario needs to be dropped, too. He's just a slower, tougher Mario... but the differences are so miniscule that no one cares...
Ganondorf's ok as is, but needs to be changed a little. He needs to be more different from Captain Falcon... His posture, his move formation, it's all too similar. In fact, all the clones should be changed to not be clones. Luigi is far enough from Mario now, but his VOICE. Those are Mario's sound clips in fast forward... Maybe SSBB will finally fix this.
Young Link and Link need to be a bit more different rather than simply dropping Young Link. Oh wait... maybe since Link is the TP link rather than the OoT Link... Maybe Young Link WILL be dropped... ;_;
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: MEGAߥTE on May 16, 2006, 12:25:24 AM
If you think Pichu is useless, then you suck at Smash Bros.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: SolidShroom on May 16, 2006, 01:08:10 PM
(look at my name and you will know what im about to freak out about) Meat Gear!!!!! I love Metal gear and Mario. Cramming them in the game together was what will make me play with my wii(tee hee) until I lose my mind
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: SolidShroom on May 16, 2006, 01:10:06 PM
(look at my name and you will know what im about to freak out about) Meat Gear!!!!! I love Metal gear and Mario. Cramming them in the game together was what will make me play with my wii(tee hee) until I lose my mind
i said meat gear, my bad you know what I meant
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Chef on May 16, 2006, 03:00:43 PM
Uh..you could've just edited your post.

If you think Pichu is useless, then you suck at Smash Bros.

Well said Mr. Byte. The same should go for Doc,Jiggs,Etc.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Kojinka on May 16, 2006, 05:45:31 PM
Jigglypuff stays.  If Jigglypuff wasn't in SSBM, I probably wouldn't have cleared Event Match 51.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: SolidShroom on May 16, 2006, 07:32:03 PM
Uh..you could've just edited your post.

Well said Mr. Byte. The same should go for Doc,Jiggs,Etc.
I know I am new 2 this give me patience
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: PaperLuigi on May 16, 2006, 08:13:35 PM
Does a litlle dance........Wario's in it! Wario's in it! I can't believe it, I've waited so long for this. And Solid Snake. Mabey Megaman or Sonic will poke there head into the game?
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Chef on May 17, 2006, 04:40:14 PM
Don't count on it. Snake was just a favor. If they add another 3rd party character, it may be Sonic, but keep in mind that the only one who decides what gets in the game is Sakurai.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: PaperLuigi on May 18, 2006, 05:08:28 PM
Look at the screen shots. Wario is in it!
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Chef on May 18, 2006, 07:38:49 PM
I know. Now all we need is Toad...
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: SolidShroom on May 18, 2006, 08:37:08 PM
Not quite. I want to see Shy Guy and Otacon (from MGS, view my picture to see him)
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Dark_Shark on May 18, 2006, 09:38:14 PM
What they need is K rool,Dedede and the whole kong clan.Oh and the four kings from DK jungle beat.

Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Chef on May 19, 2006, 05:00:00 PM
You may as well make a Donkey Kong Fighting game or something.

Not quite. I want to see Shy Guy and Otacon (from MGS, view my picture to see him)

They'll never add a minor enemy, and as I said before: don't count on getting more 3rd party characters.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Tingrio on May 19, 2006, 05:51:08 PM
Looking at the screenshots for SSBB, I noticed the Pit from Kid Icarus is more of an adult now and is more tough looking, unlike the Ice Climbers in SSBM which basically stayed the same and looked like their art in the manuals. Is this going to happen to other unregonized retro Nintendo cahrcters?
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Chef on May 19, 2006, 06:15:27 PM
Maybe Pit's redesign is a foreshadowing of a new Kid Icarus game.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Bigluigifan1.0 on May 19, 2006, 06:34:16 PM
This Pit reminds me of Kingdom Hearts, I think just because of the style, but if they were to mix things up with the old "Little-kiddish" look of the Ice Climbers, it probably wouldn't fit in right.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Dark_Shark on May 19, 2006, 06:35:20 PM
Or maybe he is just going to be in the game and become forgotten again shortly after the game.Just like the Ice climbers.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: SolidShroom on May 20, 2006, 05:11:57 AM
Not quite. I want to see Shy Guy and Otacon (from MGS, view my picture to see him)
I changed my mind about Otacon, but now I want Raiden (the other hero from MGS2)
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Chef on May 20, 2006, 07:27:35 AM
I hope they add Balloon Fighter. I don't care if he's forgotten. I also hope they add Captain N. At least he'd get a chance to redeem himself.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: billy chilly on May 20, 2006, 02:31:10 PM
I almost cried tears of joy when I saw Meta-Knight, Naked Samus, Snake, Wario, and most of all PIT!!  YEESSS!!!  I can't wait for this game.  I'm bummed Brawl won't be a launch title, but then I thought, like Sakurai and co. take his time... it's going to take a lot to best Melee (though I gotta say, Pit alone has me SOLD on this one). 
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Ultima Shadow on May 20, 2006, 06:32:58 PM
Naked Samus

lol, it's called Zero Suit Samus... XD no offence
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Post by: Lizard Dude on May 20, 2006, 07:50:51 PM
There really is a Naked Samus. She's really just a clone of Zero Suit Samus, but a little faster and weaker.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Blue Toad on May 20, 2006, 08:27:46 PM
...and a little more M-rated.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Lizard Dude on May 20, 2006, 09:13:12 PM
Yeah, just a tad. :)
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: billy chilly on May 20, 2006, 11:56:34 PM
Looking at the screenshots for SSBB, I noticed the Pit from Kid Icarus is more of an adult now and is more tough looking, unlike the Ice Climbers in SSBM which basically stayed the same and looked like their art in the manuals. Is this going to happen to other unregonized retro Nintendo cahrcters?

I was just the slightest bit bummed that Pit doesn't look just like the old art for Kid Icarus, but I got over it pretty quick when I realized how frickin' awesome he looks now. 

The redesign, to me at least, represents what Pit turns into when you get the best ending in Kid Icarus--a slightly taller, tougher looking iteration of the squat angel. 
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Post by: Bodknocks on May 28, 2006, 05:40:55 PM
On Zero Suit Samus; update from the main site, for those of you who haven't seen it:

Quote
This isn't a pure character addition. Rather, under certain conditions, Samus will "remove" her Power Suit. Whoa! That's a woman under there!

Naturally, Zero Suit Samus loses power and stamina, so she should fight using the speed she gains instead.
Also, her gun transforms and can be used as a whip. Of the two, one might consider the whip to be her main weapon.

And don't worry—you'll still be able to play as standard Samus, too.

Awesome.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: BP on May 29, 2006, 12:40:49 AM
I'm thinking it's to end all "I'm gonna play as that robot-man Samus!" crap.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Chef on May 29, 2006, 08:54:41 AM
Those who think that way about Samus have never played Metroid and never will. Hell, they probably don't know jack-squat about Nintendo in general.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Dark_Shark on May 29, 2006, 09:27:39 AM
^ Exactly
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Post by: smfan1085 on May 29, 2006, 08:38:03 PM
I'm getting concerned about the Zero Suit Samus character. The more images I see of her, the more she looks like some kind of "sex object", especially when you think of what one of the camera angles in the trailer was like. (Then again, though, it's likely that a certain jerk on KRR, who has an obviously dirty mind, contributed much to my concern about that camera angle.)
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Post by: Kojinka on May 30, 2006, 11:36:41 AM
I used to think Samus was a guy until my cousin showed me a trick on SSB in which Pikachu electrocutes Samus and you can see a female's body under the armor.  She was like, "Did you know Samus is a girl?" and I was like, "Are you serious?" then she said, "Yes." So she showed me that trick, and I was like, "Whoa!  You're right!"
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Chef on May 30, 2006, 04:35:17 PM
You must play Metroid!!
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Pt_Peach on May 30, 2006, 05:09:35 PM
Pit looks like a cool character. Is he supposed to be an angel? He has huge feet, too.
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Post by: BP on May 30, 2006, 05:49:21 PM
Well, I've never played a Metroid game unless you count the MPH demo that came with my (1st) DS, and I never knew she was a woman until I read her SSB character bio. A lot of people don't pay attention to the text for the trophies and such.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Chef on May 30, 2006, 06:07:16 PM
Pit looks like a cool character. Is he supposed to be an angel? He has huge feet, too.

You are correct, although it's a Greek angel(also known as a Cherub), not a Catholic one.
He's from Angel Land and is the head of The Godess of Light's army. That bow was given to him by the Godess of light to fight Medusa(who is refered to as The Godess of Darkness, but this isn't true in actual mythology) and recover The Godess of Light's Three Sacred Treasures.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Red Paratroopa on May 31, 2006, 03:25:55 PM
I hope we can play as Zero-Suit Mario, or Zero-Suit Ganondorf, or Zero-Suit Charizard.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Chef on May 31, 2006, 05:50:55 PM
We'd have to wait until Super Mario: Zero Mission, Zelda: Zero Mission and Pokemon: Zero Mission are released.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Raccoon Sam on June 02, 2006, 08:36:16 AM
More like, Super Smash Bros. Lawl.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Chupperson Weird on June 08, 2006, 08:18:25 PM
No Zero Suit Link?
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Post by: MEGAߥTE on June 10, 2006, 02:07:13 AM
Well, at least there will be Zero Suit Kirby.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Fullmetal Mari0 on June 16, 2006, 06:38:45 PM
Zero Suit Game & Watch.
I'll die happy then. XD
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: GammaGal on June 29, 2006, 05:35:44 PM
O_O
Oh. My. Gosh. I. Think. I'm. In. HEAVEN!!! Why is it going to be so long 'til it comes out, man?!

Alright, but there's only one character I haven't heard a word about who I can only cross my fingers and pray is going to be in there: Waluigi. It's awsome that Wario's in there in all, but ... Just because they put my second favorite character in doesn't mean I'll be satisfied without my Wally-poo!

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O.o Nobody read that. Kapeesh? No bashing on my nickname for Waluigi.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Lizard Dude on July 01, 2006, 04:20:55 AM
Waluigi never even crossed my mind, but yeah, I could dig it.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Forest Guy on July 03, 2006, 02:20:51 PM
I got nothing against Waluigi. I personally think it'd be nifty to see him make a cameo in a Paper Mario or Wario Ware game, so Smash Bros. wouldn't be much different.

then again, all the Zelda worshippers out there would complain that half the characters are Mario characters.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Fullmetal Mari0 on July 05, 2006, 12:21:24 AM
Not really sure what his fighting style/attacks would be though.
With Wario, we already know him as the "Muscle-bound brawler" type of guy, but Waluigi?
Well.....he's sneaky.........that's about it. :\
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: billy chilly on July 05, 2006, 02:50:14 AM
I got nothing against Waluigi. I personally think it'd be nifty to see him make a cameo in a Paper Mario or Wario Ware game, so Smash Bros. wouldn't be much different.

then again, all the Zelda worshippers out there would complain that half the characters are Mario characters.

Or the fact that Smash Bros. is supposed to represent ALL of Nintendo's franchises, and not just be a Super Mario fighter. 
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Ultima Shadow on July 05, 2006, 02:52:02 AM
Not really sure what his fighting style/attacks would be though.
With Wario, we already know him as the "Muscle-bound brawler" type of guy, but Waluigi?
Well.....he's sneaky.........that's about it. :\

I think he'd be quick, but light and sort of weak in hand-to-hand combat. He could use mainly special attacks, perhaps?
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Chef on July 05, 2006, 08:23:00 AM
I'd really rather they land him a role in an actual major Mario title before he ends up in SSB.
He's really undeserving. Would you want someone like The Marathon Man playable if you weren't a die-hard Zelda fan? There has to be a real sense of balance. If anything, Toad deserves a spot moreso than Waluigi, but I wouldn't care of neither of them got in.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Forest Guy on July 05, 2006, 09:42:57 AM
hey, Marathon Man all the way.

I wouldn't mind either way whether Toad or Waluigi were put in, or left out.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Red Paratroopa on July 06, 2006, 07:05:27 PM
The Marathon Man can't be in SSBM because he'd be unbeatable.  The Postman, however, would be perfectly acceptable.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Markio on July 06, 2006, 10:34:27 PM
Even though I won't get this game because I won't get a Wii, I hope Bowser's in it.  but then again, I probably shouldn't worry about that.  But wouldn't he look cool?
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: BP on July 07, 2006, 03:46:36 AM
O_o
What could POSSIBLY be wrong with you? SOMETHING's wrong with you... what could make you NOT want a Wii?
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Markio on July 07, 2006, 05:15:04 PM
Perhaps I lack that gene.  It must be the same gene that makes random words in all caps.

I don't want to spend money on something like that.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Chef on July 07, 2006, 08:19:41 PM
Something like what? What's wrong with the Wii? Tell us, please!
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: SushieBoy on July 07, 2006, 11:41:56 PM
Is there something we don't know about the Wii?! Why didn't you tell us?! Why did you keep it secret?!?!?!
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Markio on July 08, 2006, 11:21:29 AM
Well, there's this thing called money, and when you don't have a lot of it, you try not to spend it.  And I'm willing to not spend money on a Wii because I'm getting older and may have bigger things I'll be obligated to care about than just play the newest video games all the time.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: SushieBoy on July 08, 2006, 01:29:37 PM
I respect you're ways. But man, you're gonna be missing out on the fun.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Chef on July 08, 2006, 05:06:43 PM
Well, there's this thing called money, and when you don't have a lot of it, you try not to spend it.  And I'm willing to not spend money on a Wii because I'm getting older and may have bigger things I'll be obligated to care about than just play the newest video games all the time.

The Wii was intended to alliviate that problem by being inexpensive and offering a serving of games that are to be used as a small, quick diversion.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Black Mage on July 08, 2006, 06:29:06 PM
And back to the discussion about Smash Bros. Brawl. If you guys would like to continue your discussion on the Wii and its various advantages and disadvantages, please do so in one of the many Wii discussions.

Now, the character situation has been beaten to death, so how about stages? What stages would you like to see in the new game?

How would you guys feel about a return of the Trophy system from Melee? Any alternatives you'd like to suggest?


Someone on another forum I frequent mentioned the intro highway stage from Mega Man X. Of course, any stage from the Mega Man series would only exist provided Mega Man/X were included in the game, but that aside I rather liked the idea. I think back fondly to that intro level, and I suppose it could almost be like a horizontal F-Zero level, where the cars would be coming from the sides, among the other robots found on the stage. It could prove interesting, though perhaps not in execution.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Chef on July 08, 2006, 09:00:22 PM
There were about 290 trophies in SSBM, correct? Well there's a possibility of there being twice that number or even more in SSBB. I can even think of a few things that would be best made into trophies....
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Fullmetal Mari0 on July 09, 2006, 01:42:45 AM
I think an interesting stage would be Bowser's Castle, from Super Mario Brothers. It would have some floating platforms, and of course the bridge with a pool of lava below, and periodically, the bridge would collapse (maybe have a pixilated character in the background run by to act as a "warning, and trip the axe), and that's when you'd have to jump onto the platforms. Then the bridge would reappear a few seconds later.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Chef on July 09, 2006, 07:58:26 AM
I thought of a Pokemon-themed stage in the same vein as Poke-Floats. It would take place on the back of a Rayquaza as it flies through the skies of Hoenn. It could turn in different directions, effectivly altering the playing field. How's that sound?
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Post by: Ultima Shadow on July 10, 2006, 05:57:35 AM
Totally awesome. I also suggested Sky Pillar. Also, these stages would be- in my opinion- good additions-

Golden Pyramid (Wario Land 4)
Bowser's Castle (SMB)
Rainbow Road (MKDS)
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Markio on July 10, 2006, 08:00:43 AM
That Bowser's castle level sounds awesome!  Plus they could remix the old castle theme, or if the level is supposed to look 16-bit, they could just use the original song.  They better have music that, measured in goodness, surpasses SSBM.  And they must keep the same Great Fok level, be it traveling through Corneria or Sector Z.  Maybe in the background of that level, you could see the landscape of a level like Zoness, then the background would move away so it'd be just space for a while, then the background of a different planet level would come in!  Like Titania, Corneria, Solar, Zoness, Macbeth and Venom, and then back again.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Chef on July 10, 2006, 08:51:27 AM
There should be a Mushroom Kingdom III. There could be those steel boxes in the background and some shoe-riding Goombas around the stage.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: LatinoHeat619 on July 10, 2006, 12:13:16 PM
I think a Super Mario RPG level would be awesome.The level would be the area where you fought smithy.The background would be changing as well as the stage when it collapses and fall to the Final area.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Fullmetal Mari0 on July 10, 2006, 03:57:00 PM
Ooh, or maybe a Doom-ship level, with mechanics similar to that of Poke-floats (ie, having to change the "platform" on which you fight), but just have it on all seven different ships, with bullet Bills and cannons friring at you at times, and maybe even the flame jets too.
Or heck, even the Tank/Boat levels would be good for that too.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: LatinoHeat619 on July 10, 2006, 08:47:28 PM
Thats a cool idea.The Koopa Kids could make there return in this little cameo!When the level reaches the End maybe everybody would have to enter a Pipe and enter the Dungeon.You would fight here until the destructible walls and floor give in and you would land on tanks or a boat.That would be soooo cool.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Chef on July 11, 2006, 09:31:58 AM
The Koopalings deserve to be trophies.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: SushieBoy on July 11, 2006, 02:32:37 PM
that sounds auwsome! Well I had an idea long ago. why not a Dr. Mario Virus bottle stage? Megavitamins would fall and try to crush you, and make platforms to the top. Then reset. And viruses may be jumping around, trying to hit you.how does that sound?
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: BP on July 11, 2006, 10:28:29 PM
Yes, good, but there would only be one way to get KO'd. To get sent flying outside the bottle through the top (which would be difficult, with the Megavitamins falling all over the place). Maybe getting squished by a Megavitamin would result in a KO.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: SushieBoy on July 11, 2006, 10:36:02 PM
dangit! never thought of that!
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Lizard Dude on July 11, 2006, 11:42:33 PM
If a Megavitamin of your color fell on you, you'd instantly die.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Chef on July 12, 2006, 10:17:22 AM
That would be a bit cheap. I think that the stage from Balloon Fight would be a good idea. There'd be the little birdmen flying around and you could pop their balloons and knock them into the water.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Shinji Ikari on July 12, 2006, 03:16:57 PM
I like these ideas. :)
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Dark_Shark on July 13, 2006, 11:16:39 AM
I've got a few ideas for new levels.

A virtual boy.In the G&W level your characters were 2D right?Well in the virtual boy the background would be red and black.Your characters would be red aswell.

Gang plank galleon should be a level(K.rools ship).The hazard could be those canonballs that K.rool used rain down on the arena.(From DKC1).

Blade.(The Axem Rangers' ship).The level hazard can be the breaker beam from the cannon.

Snowhead mountain(Majora's mask).The hazard would be that giant goron blowing strong winds that can blow you off the stage from time to time.(much like Whispy Woods)

That is it for now.

Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: SushieBoy on July 13, 2006, 11:56:56 AM
those ideas gave me a new one, why not a Koopaling Airship Stage? It would be like poke floats, diffrents ships flying around, shooting cannon balls and bullet bills.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: smfan1085 on July 13, 2006, 02:41:48 PM
Gang plank galleon should be a level(K.rools ship).The hazard could be those canonballs that K.rool used rain down on the arena.(From DKC1).

An excellent idea.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: LatinoHeat619 on July 14, 2006, 06:53:14 AM
It would be cool if they made a level like Pokefloats but it was about nintedos history.It would have different systems like the Nes,Super Nes, gameboy(color and advance)also the DS,N64,gamecube,virtual boy and finaly the Wii.It would end on the Wii and they would battle it out.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: SushieBoy on July 14, 2006, 12:00:41 PM
that's a preety good idea.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Dark_Shark on July 14, 2006, 02:22:37 PM
That would be a bit cheap. I think that the stage from Balloon Fight would be a good idea. There'd be the little birdmen flying around and you could pop their balloons and knock them into the water.

Let me add to your suggestion Robert.The ball of lightning that comes from the cloud and bounces around,the flippers and that giant fish.

I have 2 more level suggestions.

The Flying Kroc(K.rool's airship)
No hazards here.The charcaters would be fighting on top of it.

Kaos core(K.rool's labratory where you fought Kaos)

The hazard can be the electricity blast that covers the floor.It would work like the banzai bill on the Peach's Castle level.It could kill instantly but only happens frequently.


Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Chef on July 14, 2006, 04:08:46 PM
I just thought of something else. Better customizable Special Melees. One person could be Invisible, one could be Giant, etc. Or you could couple it with Stamina Mode, and decide wether it would be a Battle Royal or a Stock match. The possibilies are endless. Heck, I'll post an example of a custom match to show you folks what I mean.
 
Rule: Survival
Stamina Mode: On
Time Limit: 3:00
Speed: Lightning
P1: Giant, 4 Stock, 150 HP
P2: Tiny, 2 Stock, 200 HP
P3: Invisible, 3 Stock, 400 HP
P4: Metal, 5 Stock, 350 HP

See what I mean?

       
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Ultima Shadow on July 14, 2006, 05:45:39 PM
And you should be able to save these custom games. If you can already do it in Melee, then I don't know that because I haven't played Melee in eons.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Chef on July 15, 2006, 07:01:15 AM
The games aren't customizable to that point in Melee, and the only 'changed rules' that are saved is the Item Switch.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: LatinoHeat619 on July 15, 2006, 12:00:54 PM
Those are all cool ideas.The only thing that concerns me is the Story mode.I hope that it has more depth then the past games.Each character should have a story as they continue in the game.A few cut sceens before a match would be cool.Like when mario is about to start a battle with snake it would show mario infiltrating Shadow Moses and he runs into snake and they start the match.That should make the Classic mode a bit more exciting.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Chef on July 15, 2006, 12:11:34 PM
Here's a new idea for 1-player Adventure mode. There would be multiple paths, with a world map and stuff, so you could choose which area you want to go to next. Each area would be a stage inspired by whichever game it came from. Throughout it you would fight whichever characters come from that game and at the end you would fight a non-playable boss character from that game. There could also be bonus areas on the map that allow you to fight special battles or minigames. You could even have the ability to save your progress and come back and finish the game later. Sound good?
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Dark_Shark on July 15, 2006, 12:33:39 PM
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ..........*snort*.Yet another complicated idea.But in all seriousness it is a good idea.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: SushieBoy on July 16, 2006, 12:17:38 AM
I don't know, all that detail sounds like a "second" game. You're going wayyy to far, Chef.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Chef on July 16, 2006, 07:25:40 AM
No I haven't.  Adding in stuff like Exp and Gold and cutscenes would've been going to far. Then it would be SSB: Soul Calibur.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: LatinoHeat619 on July 17, 2006, 07:22:14 AM
Its a good idea but the EXP and gold may be a bit tooo much.When in classic mode in melee you already got coins(a bit too much in my oppinion.)
But the EXP wouldnt make sense because SSB is a crazy fighting game while in SC its one on one.Plus the Adventure mode is much longer in SC and EXP would be useless in Brawl.The non playable boss fights is a cool idea tho.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Chef on July 17, 2006, 07:47:37 AM
We already had Giga Bowser, so they could add Ganon, Mother Brain, Marx, Andross, Evil Lugia, Giygas, Black Shadow, Medeusa, A Metal Gear, etc.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Dark_Shark on July 18, 2006, 09:51:31 AM
so they could add Ganon

Get a hold of yourself boy!!!*Slaps the Chef*.Ganon can be Gannondorf's super move.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Chef on July 18, 2006, 12:21:54 PM
Dang, you're right. Maybe they could do both, and to even it out, Giga Bowser could be Bowser's super move. :D
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: LatinoHeat619 on July 18, 2006, 06:04:40 PM
Yo since they had Master Hand for bros,then Master Hand and Crazy Hand for Melee maybe they might have a Both Master and Crazy and then A head like anrdoss.Not the Andross but just some head.Oh and a Metal Gear would be a awesome boss!Maybe in the Adventure mode all the Villans could make a sort of team(i.e Gannon,Mewtwo,Bowser,Ridley,ect) so they could Take down the Good team(Mario,Link,Kirby,Snake,Samus)and it could turn into a sort of war.The story mode will just follow the adventure of your character to the top.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Blue Toad on July 20, 2006, 11:21:11 PM
Wow, you guys are just setting sights higher and higher...
Don't go too far or you'll all disappoint yourselves.

However, there is was thing that I want (though I know I won't get) in the next game.  A stage where you get to fight atop a bumbling train.  :D
Now, I know we already sort of have that with Big Blue (or whatever that stage is called). but it's just not the same!  Let's see the Excess Express or.... some other train that appears in a game starring one of the cast in SMBB!
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Chef on July 21, 2006, 09:05:21 AM
The train from Pokemon Gold and Sliver, maybe? ;D
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: BP on July 21, 2006, 09:40:40 AM
Hahaha, my sights aren't set that high... I mean, they darn well should be but as long as there isn't a big screw-up (such as removing Bowser) I won't be able to put this down for weeks. Oh, and it's a good thing for me that SSBB won't be available until 2007... that gives me time to play my GameCube games and Twilight Princess.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: LatinoHeat619 on July 23, 2006, 02:43:17 PM
Yeah i was reading the Latest gamepro and i went and read the Super Smash Bros Brawl Preview and it said the stuff we already know like the characters,and other stuffs but what really interested me is that they have the results of the character submissions and they said that Sonic is the most wanted charcter in both Japan and USA.Then it said how Nintendo's Miyamoto and the Creator of Brawl Sakurai are working with "companies" right now the see if they can get the rights to put 3rd party characters in the Game.Im not saying that sonic is gonna be in it but his chances have Greatly increased due to his popularity.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: smfan1085 on July 23, 2006, 07:22:11 PM
Well, that's certainly cool. Sonic would be a great character to put in, and I've been hoping that if they put in any more 3rd party characters, he would be included.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: LatinoHeat619 on July 23, 2006, 09:05:10 PM
Yeah lets just HOPE Shiegeru Miyamoto and Sakurai actually LISTEN to the fans.Sometimes no matter how hard the fans pleade they just ignore what the fans want and just go with their own plans.Then they put a submission site where you can submit your most wanted character.The point of site is so nintendo can LISTEN to the fans.Lets just hope nintendo doesnt screw up a good oppurtunity.Dont get me wrong im a HUGE FAN of nintendo. ^_^'
Also if any other characters should get in Bomberman should get in.I think there a game in japan only had a SSB style fighting system and Snake and Bomberman where in it.If you want proof look up Solid Snake at Wikipedia.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Chef on July 24, 2006, 08:35:25 AM
I already posted a link to the Japanese wabsite for that game. I just can't remember where though. It's called Dream Mix TV World Fighters and has characters from Hudson, Konami and the toy company Takara, which means Optimus Prime was a playable character. :D
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: LatinoHeat619 on July 24, 2006, 11:02:40 AM
Wow optimus Prime?Man thats hilarious.I can see how bomberman would be used but i would rather have the good old smash bros franchise.What im wondering is if Snake is in the smash bros family just for this game or will he be in future games.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Chef on July 24, 2006, 03:41:29 PM
I made this long, detailed post about that game, but I can't seem to find where I posted it. Anyone remember?
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Toad on July 24, 2006, 08:22:11 PM
I know. Now all we need is Toad...

Here I am!

.. ok, seriously, I would absouletely love it if Toad were in SSBB. After the Mario Bros (who tie for first), Toad is my next favorite character in the Mario series. It would make sense for them to add Toad next, as he is the one of the only characters from the 'main' games that they haven't added yet.

After Toad, we start getting into characters that were only playable in spinoffs (like Waluigi) or have only seen one main game appearance (Daisy).

When I say one main game, I mean one that advances the story of the Mario Bros (like how they used to be searching for a way to get back home to Brooklyn..)
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: LatinoHeat619 on July 24, 2006, 08:39:57 PM
Yeah but lets not hope there will be too many spin off characters in the game.I dont need to see characters that played almost no importance in games.Daisy is a good idea but she must have her own move set.If they give her the same set as peach she will be a dissapointment.It would be cool if they include about 1-2 spinoff characters per game.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Chef on July 25, 2006, 10:11:43 AM
It would be even cooler if they put no spinoff characters in each game. Come on SSB is about Nintendo's finest! The filler characters from the Mario spinoffs are definitlely not Nintendo's finest.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: LatinoHeat619 on July 25, 2006, 08:17:54 PM
Yeah but then the character roster would be dropped to like 20.Its a good idea that they are puting in more rivals in the game like Meta knight.There are going to be atleast 40 characters in the game and it is unavoidable that a few of them are going to be filler characters from a few games.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Chef on July 26, 2006, 10:35:53 AM
It's not unavoidable. There's plenty of characters besides MArio spinoff ones. Take the original Melee roster, that;s 26 right off the bat. Add the five confirmed ones. That's 31. All you need is 8 more and you have 40, unless you take out a few from the Melee roster, which probably won't be that much since the clones are being re-designed in to new characters. I can name 8 characters that deserve those spots easily. Wolf, Ridley, Samurai Goroh, Balloon Fighter, Mach Rider, Flint, Starfy and Lip. None of those are Mario filler characters.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Dark_Shark on July 26, 2006, 12:06:05 PM
Wolf, Ridley, Samurai Goroh, Balloon Fighter, Mach Rider, Flint, Starfy and Lip. None of those are Mario filler characters.

Wolf:He doesn't deserve it but I still would like to see him in the game.
Balloon Fighter:YEEEEESSSS!!!!!
Mach Rider:YYYYYYEEEEEESSSSS!!!
Flint:Who?But no.
Starfy:^
Lip:^^
Samurai:NNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ridley:DEFINATELY!!!!!!!
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Chef on July 26, 2006, 01:46:39 PM
Flint is from Mother 3(Earthbound Advance). He's a cowboy who uses a big piece of wood as a weapon.
Starfy is the star of Japan-only Legend of Starfy series. He's a starfish. Sea creatures rule.
Lip is from Panel de Pon. We need more girls and I love the Panepon games.
What's wrong with Goroh?
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: BP on July 26, 2006, 02:10:22 PM
Lip? Get serious. Donald Trump would be a better candidate. Yeah, we need more girls, but try Twinrova or whoever the Twilight Princess is supposed to be. Nabooru could be a good character too, if they did what they did to Sheik--make a cool NPC into a strong fighter with moves they would more than likely have. 'Cause if you think about it, all all we ever saw Sheik do was suddenly appear and play the harp...
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Chef on July 26, 2006, 02:58:20 PM
There's nothing wrong with Lip. Remember how annoying that flower staff was in Melee?
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Blue Toad on July 26, 2006, 04:21:42 PM
Haha... I like how Kirby's graphical design doesn't get upgraded in the movie... he's just like, "No fair!"

Anyway, as far as female characters go, I've already mentioned Mona, but I also think that the one girl from the Kirby game for N64 would be an interesting character addition.  You know, the one with the paintbrush.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: MaxVance on July 26, 2006, 04:31:24 PM
Haha... I like how Kirby's graphical design doesn't get upgraded in the movie... he's just like, "No fair!"
Kirby is just a pink blob. What's there to upgrade?
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: BP on July 26, 2006, 06:11:32 PM
If you look closely, he has a little. His coloring or something about him, it's more... real. In my opinion, SSBM's graphics were perfect... but SSBB's are more realistic. Does that make sense?
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Blue Toad on July 26, 2006, 06:19:14 PM
Kirby is just a pink blob. What's there to upgrade?

Shading and realism, perhaps deeper and more glossy eyes, a different basic structure (like pikachu).
I dunno, basic upgrades.
And, yeah, BP, I can kind of see what you mean.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Dark_Shark on July 26, 2006, 06:29:56 PM
My reply to The Chef:
Samurai Goroh would end being almost identical to Cpt.Falcon.I honestly do not see any reason why they should add more F-Zero characters who never used a single attack in there entire gaming career.It is a waste of space.(Same thing with Shiek)

Now that you mention Earthbound,yes I think that there should be more Earthbound characters playable.

Starfy is a starfish eh?Sea creatures do rule!*Shakes Robert's hand and accidently takes his weak arm off*

I know nothing about Lip.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: BP on July 26, 2006, 06:36:19 PM
Are you saying Shiek should be dropped? Oh good, for a second I misread that as Sheik, a previously non-playable character who turned out to be a really great character and should not be dropped.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Dark_Shark on July 26, 2006, 06:40:30 PM
Yes Shiek should be dropped.She is incredibly weak,utterly useless and overrated.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Blue Toad on July 26, 2006, 07:44:45 PM
I, actually, find Sheik a better fighter than Zelda. 
Zelda's a little slow, and I love using Sheik's upper smash attack thingy. XD
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: LatinoHeat619 on July 27, 2006, 07:34:50 AM
I can actually see Samurai Goroh or Black Shadow in it because more and more of the heroes keep getting Rival characters.Mario/Bowser Link/Gannondorf Pikachu/Mewtwo ect.I wouldnt be suprised if Cpt.Falcon got a rival character.DK will probably get a rival character too.As for graphic style im diggin the graphical change for brawl.Its realistic while being awesome at the same time.(i dont know if that makes sense but yeah)

  (>?__?)>   Kirby:[wtd]!?Wheres my grapich change!?!
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: smfan1085 on July 27, 2006, 07:38:03 AM
Lip? Get serious. Donald Trump would be a better candidate.
I agree with this.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Chef on July 27, 2006, 09:51:13 AM
Dark_Shark, I was thinking that Ganondorf's moveset could be given to Goroh and then he'd get an all-new moveset. That's what should happen.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Blue Toad on July 27, 2006, 12:05:54 PM
I actually really like that idea.
Then Ganondorf could get the totally awesome and original attacks that he truly deserves. 
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: SushieBoy on July 27, 2006, 12:07:22 PM
Mabye some attacks using his sword, or wierd dark magic!
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Dark_Shark on July 27, 2006, 07:22:14 PM
Dark_Shark, I was thinking that Ganondorf's moveset could be given to Goroh and then he'd get an all-new moveset. That's what should happen.

And presto!!!!!!We would have ANOTHER clone!!!!
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Chef on July 27, 2006, 07:25:56 PM
At least it makes more sense for Goroh to be a clone of Falcon than it does for Ganondorf.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Dark_Shark on July 27, 2006, 07:54:45 PM
No!You silly fool!

I think we should get rid of the clones,not bring more in.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Suffix on July 27, 2006, 08:39:02 PM
Clones were a cheap way to give people more choices of characters.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Chef on July 27, 2006, 09:12:19 PM
Fine then. Bring in Goroh, but both him and Ganondorf will have unique movesets.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: SushieBoy on July 27, 2006, 11:59:33 PM
I know, if nintendo would have put a bit more effort on ganondorf's moveset, we would have a totally cool character.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Luigison on July 30, 2006, 09:29:23 AM
"If you want to talk about something big, how about the news Hideo Kojima, Snake's creator, is designing Snake's level in Brawl? Snake's inclusion means we're not only getting one of the best characters in gaming, but one of the best developers as well."

Source:  http://www.cubed3.com/news/5621
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Wumbo on August 27, 2006, 07:27:46 PM
I'm bored. Rate my character list

Mario series:
Mario (duh) with Dr. Mario as a costume
Luigi
Peach
Yoshi
Bowser
Bowser Jr./Shadow Mario
Geno

Zelda Series:
Link
Zelda/Sheik
Vaati
Ganondorf

DK series:
DK
Diddy
K.Rool

Wario series:
Wario
Kat and Ana
Waluigi

Kirby series:
Kirby
MetaKnight
Dedede

Metroid series:
Samus
0-suit Samus
Ridley

Pokemon series:
Pikachu
Jigglypuff
Mewtwo
Dexoys
Lucario

Retro:
Ice Climbers
Pit
Mr. Game & Watch
Little Mac

Fire Emblem:
Marth
Roy
Hector
Sigurd

Earthbound:
Ness
Paula
Lucas

F-Zero:
Captain Falcon
Samurai Goroh
Black Shadow

Starfox series:
Fox
Falco
Krystal
Wolf O' Donnell

3rd Party:
Snake
Sonic
Mega Man
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: SushieBoy on August 27, 2006, 08:48:34 PM
Your 3rd party list is really vauge, we neecd more! like: Rayman, spyro, Crash, Bomberman, Capt olimar, Madden, Ash Kechum, oh and, SushieBoy, of course!
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: CoconutMikeNIke on August 27, 2006, 09:19:52 PM
Madden?!  I don't want some old fat man yelling "BAM! Tough actin Tenactin" every time I hit him...
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Chef on August 28, 2006, 09:54:04 AM
Take out Bowser Jr. and Waluigi and it's OK by me.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: NintendoExpert89 on August 29, 2006, 10:53:50 AM
Your 3rd party list is really vauge, we neecd more! like: Rayman, spyro, Crash, Bomberman, Capt olimar, Madden, Ash Kechum, oh and, SushieBoy, of course!

Um, Pikmin and Pokemon are not third-party games. Not only that, Olimar was created by Shigeru Miyamoto.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Chef on August 29, 2006, 12:34:38 PM
Yeah, and what significance does Spyro, Crash, Rayman and Madden have to Nintendo?
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: SushieBoy on August 29, 2006, 02:59:41 PM
I know that Pikmin and pokemon aren't third party, we just needed to add more variety!
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Chef on August 29, 2006, 07:43:23 PM
I highly doubt that any of those will appear. Heck, when you think about it, there's already enough variety.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: SushieBoy on August 29, 2006, 08:57:01 PM
*sobs, takes out a cabinet labled "IDEAS FOR NEXT SSB GAME" stares at them glumly for a second, and throws them into the garbage can* "there go my dreams" *tears roll down cheek*
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Chef on August 29, 2006, 09:09:34 PM
You can dream all you want. Just don't expect to see more than 40 Nintendo-related characters in SSBB.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: SushieBoy on August 29, 2006, 09:13:37 PM
"don't you get it? all my dreams are gone" *cries some more*
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Dark_Shark on August 31, 2006, 08:54:59 PM
Bomberman must be put in Smash bros Brawl.They have to put him in or else I will die.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Kojinka on September 05, 2006, 04:49:02 PM
I had some interesting ideas for Olimar's moveset.  His special moves would rely on the ability of what color of Pikmin he'd throw.  IE: Purple Pikmin would cause earthquakes that imobilize and damage all opponents caught on the ground.

As for the Pokemon, get rid of Deoxys and add Meowth.  In my wildest dreams, I'd like to see Missingno. in it.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Mario Maniac on September 10, 2006, 05:26:45 PM
My list of Characters for Smash Bros, Brawl:

Sonic
Mega Man
Simon Belmont from Castlevania
Dante from Devil May Cry
Leon of Resident Evil 4
Viewtiful Joe
Goku from Dragonball Z
Bobobo-bobo-bobo
Naruto
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Suffix on September 10, 2006, 05:33:39 PM
Dragonball Z?! That's not a game. And the amount of 3rd party characters in that list are unfeasible.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Kojinka on September 10, 2006, 06:52:24 PM
Also, Sakurai said that no anime characters are gonna appear in SSBB. (When I say anime characters, I mean characters that made their debut in an anime.)  That means not Goku, no Naruto, no Inuyasha, etc.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: PaperLuigi on September 11, 2006, 05:44:22 PM
Naruto in SSBM? That's just..........no. All the characters will be from Nintendo, with a FEW 3rd party characters. A FEW.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Chef on September 12, 2006, 05:02:11 PM
If anything, the only other Third-ie we'll see is Sonic, and even then, there's chance he won't even appear.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Fullmetal Mari0 on September 14, 2006, 05:59:17 PM
Joe would be actually be a pretty cool character to have in the game, though he'd be kind of a Zelda/Sheik clone in terms of transforming and all. But his attacks in the game would make for a great move-set in the game.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Chef on September 14, 2006, 06:47:13 PM
I fail to see why Joe wouldn't just stay in his "Viewtiful" form through the whole game. That is the way people rcognize him the most. Better yet, it seems people assume that just because a character could have a move similar to another one's, they're a clone by default. Not true.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: billy chilly on September 15, 2006, 12:30:10 AM
If Viewtiful Joe is in the game, he needs to just stay Viewtiful, with regular Joe as maybe an alternate costume or something.  I'd love to see VJ, but I don't know HOW Slow, Mach and Zoom could be used without screwing everybody else up...

Unless maybe slow is a charge-up punch, like the Falcon Punch, Mach could be a rapid-fire barrage of attacks, and Zoom could just make Joe huge... Hmmm thoughts?

But yeah, Sakurai said to expect 2-3 more third party characters at the absolute most.  If we got Sonic and Mega Man, that's all I'd need. 
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Lizard Dude on September 17, 2006, 01:12:06 AM
Regular Joe mode could happen when you use a Viewtiful Effect for too long, like how Bowser's Fire runs out kinda.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Baron on September 17, 2006, 03:29:52 AM
That would actually be a pretty good idea. It would be more accurate for Joe's abilities in his game and make the abilitly different from Zelda/Sheik's transformation.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: reece1504 on October 17, 2006, 02:53:14 AM
Hey Mario Maniac,
I hope that you know your wishlist of characters for Brawl, no offence man but do you how much work nintendo would have to do to do that, it would take too long and they might have to rush the game  making it inseficient if they wanted to make come out in time (unless they have working secretly on this for some time). Though it would be good if Sonic made an appearance.   
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Wumbo on October 31, 2006, 03:52:53 PM
MAY I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE!
MAY I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE!

There might be a new Brawl Trailer coming out Nov 2nd.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=88214 (http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=88214)
I REPEAT! THERE MIGHT BE A NEW BRAWL TRAILER COMING OUT NOV. 2ND

And we're not gonna have problem here. :P
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Chef on October 31, 2006, 04:25:00 PM
The question is, will we folks here in the US be able to see it?
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Dark_Shark on October 31, 2006, 07:11:57 PM
I'm not going to watch any more trailers or try to find out which characters are going to be in the game.It will just spoil the surprises in store.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: BP on October 31, 2006, 07:13:34 PM
The question is, will we folks here in the US be able to see it?
Well, duh, it's kind of the world wide web.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Sqrt2 on November 01, 2006, 03:45:45 AM
 er...Nintendo Database says that it'll be available to see from November 3rd(ie this friday) not  November 2nd (tomorrow).
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Chef on November 01, 2006, 04:31:58 PM
I hear that the trailer doesn't show any more new characters, but only shows the confirmed new characters in actual gameplay footage.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Sqrt2 on November 02, 2006, 03:16:36 AM
I hope it shows who's returning from melee and some of the new pokemon/items availible
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Wumbo on November 02, 2006, 08:27:19 AM
I hear that the trailer doesn't show any more new characters, but only shows the confirmed new characters in actual gameplay footage.

Someone translated it and said that there will be new characters shown
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Pt_Peach on November 02, 2006, 11:31:52 AM
Well, I just hope that all of the confirmed characters will be in the new trailer. All of the characters. Every single one that you don't have to unlock.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Chef on November 02, 2006, 04:34:27 PM
Someone translated it and said that there will be new characters shown

Someone else re-translated it and said that the first translation was a mistranslation.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: SushieBoy on November 02, 2006, 08:44:40 PM
STOP!! Can't you see all this senseless fighting is tearing us all apart!? *blows up*
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Pt_Peach on November 03, 2006, 12:57:49 AM
And someone else may re-translate the re-translation which said the translation was a mistake and say the re-traslation is a mistake.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: MEGAߥTE on November 03, 2006, 10:43:59 AM
Here's a videotaped version of the new trailer!
http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=14644&type=wmv&pl=game
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Kojinka on November 03, 2006, 04:08:16 PM
Pokemon Stadium's returning!=win
Yoshi's Island with the SMW2:YI backdrops!
Mario Kart stage!  Although it seems to be a bit of a Mute City rehash :(
Stage w/ crumbling platforms also win
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Chef on November 03, 2006, 04:17:55 PM
The stage with the crumblimng platforms looks like it's from Kid Icarus. You can even see a dark pit at the bottom which might be the underworld. Also, there seems to be a new crawling ability. Not sure what it'll be used for, though.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: SolidShroom on November 03, 2006, 05:30:18 PM
Awesome. Absolutely awesome. It seems that Snake's stage will be the Shadow Moses snowfield, which makes me happy. The crawl feature looks great too, and everyone's attacks are looking really good. I just wonder what weapons will be used this time around... 
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Pt_Peach on November 03, 2006, 06:14:42 PM
Samus kicks were nice! This trailer confirmed that Fox would be in it! I wonder if these are the rest of the characters...But the stages were COOL!
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: BP on November 03, 2006, 09:01:48 PM
I tried to watch it. It wouldn't load, all it managed to do was punch mIRC with lag...
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: SushieBoy on November 04, 2006, 10:21:44 AM
I like that Mario Kart Track, Speshally the one with all those crumbling platforms, for some reason.... The stages to me right now seem kinda' cramped, and the layout is kinda' repetative.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Chef on November 04, 2006, 05:22:48 PM
Notice how Fox looks re-designed. It's like a mix of Command and Adventures. He also seems to hold his blaster in his hand at all times. Will his moveset be different? Is this some sort of foreshadowing of a Star Fox game to appear on the Wii?
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: MaxVance on November 04, 2006, 05:24:02 PM
I doube he'll always be using his blaster. It was only a trailer.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Chef on November 04, 2006, 05:31:55 PM
But it was actual footage of the game and NOT an FMV sequence. They had do put it there for some reason. Also notice how his standing animation is radically different from the previous game. He bobs up and down like Ryu.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: MaxVance on November 04, 2006, 05:48:48 PM
No, it was actual footage of a trailer. Things tend to change between when a trailer is seen and when the game is released.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on November 04, 2006, 06:07:45 PM
The Mario Kart stage looks too much like a Mute City rehash. But I'm glad to see Yoshi's Island and Pokemon Stadium. That Angelland stage looks sweet too.

Crawling. Looks useless to me and odds are it'll only come in handy for the Break the Targets/Race to the Finish stages.

Zero Suit Samus seems very different from regular Samus. Hopefully they can also differentiate any other clones from the last game to make them as good as this.

Fox looks like a drug addict. Why didn't they just reuse his model from Melee? I do like that his space level has low gravity.

So far so good Nintendo and Sakurai, now how about you don't axe Falco, Captain Falcon and any other good character from the past and confirm that Diddy Kong, C. Olimar and Lyn are in the game? You'd be making me very happy.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Kojinka on November 05, 2006, 03:50:28 PM
I highly doubt they'll axe Captain Falcon or any other character that has been on the Smash Roaster since the first SSB
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Sqrt2 on November 06, 2006, 09:31:47 AM
Personally, I think wario's moves are a bit too weird for me. I hope they include his shoulder charge move from SML3:Warioland in this game, as that would rock!!
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Chef on November 06, 2006, 03:15:30 PM
I can't tell whether Wario is unfinished or programed that way on purpose (as he is based on his wacky WarioWare incarnation).
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: SushieBoy on November 06, 2006, 04:08:06 PM
I wonder if each character has diffrent outfits, not just diffrent colors of the same one.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Sinister Aura on November 07, 2006, 02:45:21 AM
My list of Characters for Smash Bros, Brawl:

Sonic
Mega Man
Simon Belmont from Castlevania
Dante from Devil May Cry
Leon of Resident Evil 4
Viewtiful Joe
Goku from Dragonball Z
Bobobo-bobo-bobo
Naruto

like reece said, it is very unlikely that these character will appear in Super Smash Bros Brawl because Snake was just making a guest appearance but I do think the Sonic, Dante and Leon are all very good characters and I do know that Megaman is pretty popular but I'm not a very good fan. I'm a very strong anti-supporter of dragon ball and naruto however (no offenco to you sorry)

though I'll lise some of characters that I'd LIKE to see
Sonic
Dante (DMC)
Vergil OR Nelo Angelo (DMC)
Leon (RE4)
The Prince (Prince of Persia)
one of a handfull of characters that is in the FF series making appearances in Kingdom Hearts (for a better 2D understanding)
Garret (Thief - though what freakish chance will a master theif be starring in a fighting game is beyone me)
Terry Bogard along with other famous KOF characters
and a fat truckload of other characters that I can't remember right now

I'm pretty new to this forum by the way but not new to forums entirely
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Sinister Aura on November 07, 2006, 02:52:03 AM
MAY I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE!
MAY I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE!

There might be a new Brawl Trailer coming out Nov 2nd.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=88214 (http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=88214)
I REPEAT! THERE MIGHT BE A NEW BRAWL TRAILER COMING OUT NOV. 2ND

And we're not gonna have problem here. :P
no offence man, but your attempt at using The Real Slim Shady phrase was really out of place
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Wumbo on November 07, 2006, 07:16:14 PM
Well it was like the only part Eminem didn't swear.
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Falcovsleon20 on November 07, 2006, 09:18:36 PM
My list of Characters for Smash Bros, Brawl:

Sonic
Mega Man
Simon Belmont from Castlevania
Dante from Devil May Cry
Leon of Resident Evil 4
Viewtiful Joe
Goku from Dragonball Z
Bobobo-bobo-bobo
Naruto


As said before, Sakurai said no anime/manga characters at all. Although it woudln't surprise me if Bobobo was an exception to that rule if this is anything to go by:http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/Falcovsleon20/page170small.jpg (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/Falcovsleon20/page170small.jpg)
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Kojinka on November 08, 2006, 03:51:03 PM
I wish I could read Japanese
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: The Chef on November 08, 2006, 03:52:00 PM
This site is pretty good for those who wish to hear speculation about what Sakurai said. None of it is exact though.

www.smashbrawl.com
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: Sinister Aura on November 09, 2006, 12:08:04 AM
Well it was like the only part Eminem didn't swear.
...and didn't criticise other people...well...
Title: Re: E3 2006: Smash Bros. Brawl
Post by: kirbyman on February 09, 2007, 05:56:17 PM
This game is going to be great.