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Video Games => Mario Chat => Topic started by: Toad on February 21, 2006, 07:00:53 PM
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Toad used to be the 4th character in games that had 4 characters playable but he was replaced by Yoshi. I don't understand how a character that was introduced 10 years after the Mario series had started (Yoshi) would be more popular than a character who was there from the start (Toad). Yoshi didn't even start out as a full character, but an item of sorts.. if it came from an [?]-block, it was an item. Anyway, more recently, Yoshi has been playable more often than Toad. Both of them have a handful (or more) of fans, people that want to see them playable.
So, who is your favorite?
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Toad was only playable in SMB2 before SMW.
It's no wonder a charecter with abilities and differentiation "replaced" Toad.
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Ok, but what about today.. Super Mario 64 DS could've easily had Toad playable instead of, well.. Wario. Ok, so that was a bad example, but there are other games..
Why wasn't Toad in Mario Power Tennis? Why isn't he in Mario Superstar Baseball? Why not in Paper Mario or PM2? Why wait until the fifth installment of Mario Party to finally start including a character that should've been there from the beginning?
.. and don't give me that he was a board host business. They could've easily replaced Toad with a Lakitu, or some other npc.
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Whooh, calm down Toad. Never mess with a person who has 'toad' in their name. :D
Don't worry, I'm not making fun of you. I'm just making a joke about what you said. ;)
Toad is in MSB though.
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I like using Toad AND Yoshi together in MKDD... I wish a toad would be a character in an RPG though...
Edit: I thought it would be cool if in PMTTYD a Toad were an optional partner... He could have a spotless head to make him look different.
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Toad is in MSB though.
No he's not. There are Toads in MSB, but the one Toad has a blue vest and red mushroom dots. In that game, they're trying to pass off the red Retainer as Toad.
.. and I AM CALM. *tenses arms and grabs keyboard in deathlike grip* (j/k btw)
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I love Toad. As a fellow Toad lover, I would like to know your opinion on the voice he was given beginning with Super Mario Advance.
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Hmm.. I haven't played much of Super Mario Advance.. just a copy of the ROM (I don't know where to get it, don't ask me).
I thought it was good, but I can see why people would have wanted an option to turn the voices off in that game. A voice clip for every little detail was insane (plucking a veggie, being hit, grabbing a cherry, grabbing an enemy..). I did like Toad's voice, though.
My favorite one is probably the first game he had a voice in, Mario Kart 64 (ok, so this was the first famous one.. he first had a voice in Wario's Woods..) After that, we didn't hear much from the World's greatest mushroom retainer.. Just some ohs and aws in the first 3 Mario Party games, then he was given what was an ok voice in MP4. MKDD was a good voice, but not as good as MK64, and MP's 5-6 are also pretty good, but again, not as good as MK64's.
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I'm sorry. I like Toad, but I first saw Yoshi during the period of my childhood where I was intrigued with dinosaurs.
I love Toad's scream in MK64.
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Why wasn't Toad in Mario Power Tennis? Why isn't he in Mario Superstar Baseball? Why not in Paper Mario or PM2? Why wait until the fifth installment of Mario Party to finally start including a character that should've been there from the beginning?
Easy. He didn't meet the required height. Don't you remember those "You must be this tall to ride" signs at the carnival? Yeah, he never grew over the line.
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Easy. He didn't meet the required height. Don't you remember those "You must be this tall to ride" signs at the carnival? Yeah, he never grew over the line.
Then the babies shouldn't have been in either, or Koopa Troopa, or Mini-Bowser (ok, he might be tall enough, I just hate him is all).
Toad was in Mario Tennis 64 (and Mario Tennis for the Virtual Boy).. why take out a good character for 3-4 ok characters (Flyguy was just stupid, Paratroopa was ok [since he'd been in the 64 game], Wiggler was a surprise, and Petey was the worst one of them all [stupid baby Pirahna Plant, taking up valuable character space with his regurgitating noises and friggin huge head])
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Yoshi
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I think out of all the side characters, Toad is definitely best. Yoshi, to me, can't really be considered a character. He's more of a slave. But, Toad--he's on par with the heroes. That's what makes him cool. He's a big league player.
Anyway, I despise his new voice...
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Yoshi is really considered mario's car.
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Aha! That's a good resemblance, Martini. XD That is true, though. Lazy Mario...
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Hmmm...too hard of a decision.
Toads are hard-working, intelligent beings that serve the royal family of the Mushroom Kingdom; being awesome like that. But Yoshis are fun-loving, also intelligent beings that simply roam the world, kicking back and relaxing. This makes them cool as well....
I honestly can't pick.
It's funny too, because I just got Super Mario Strikers, and for my team I always have it as Yoshi being the captain, and Toads as the other players.
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I didn't vote either. Yoshi is almost everyone's favorite Mario character, and he often has great roles in the games. So does Toad. Toads are people with mushrooms on their heads, that's awesome.
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It's funny too, because I just got Super Mario Strikers, and for my team I always have it as Yoshi being the captain, and Toads as the other players.
Can Toad be a captain in that game?
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Wait, toads don't have legs. The one thing I don't like about toads is thier physique... when I draw toads, I draw them like mushroom people. Like so:
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Nice Mushroom person!
BTW, I've always wondered... what does a Bird Person look like? Not a photo, a Bird Person... some kind of half-bird half-person?
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I like Toad. He's so adorable. Heres a pic I drew of him (note that it has no reflection on my drawing by hand):
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg69.imageshack.us%2Fimg69%2F2908%2Ftoadmacho0ko.jpg&hash=9fc6f96a870e127546042f8bf91efff3)
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I picked Toad. He's cool.
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By the way, I didn't vote either.
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Perhaps "Mushroom Person" would be a nice new name for me... nah, too many name changes recently, and the mods/admins aren't granting requests anyway.
Edit: Heeey, I drew Macho Toad a while ago!
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I love Toad's scream in MK64.
His voice was creepy... That was the only game that had that voice for Toad, correct? I would've never expected his voice to be like that. Toad and Luigi both had undecided voices at first, it would seem. Bowser too, I guess. But some people wouldn't consider Bowser's first voice a 'voice'. It was really just a growl.
I picked Yoshi because he's cute! XD Some people thougt bad of Yoshi when he changed his voice. Some people, like my brother, prefered him to have his first voice. Like in SMW. I still think his new voice is adorable. ^_^
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Here's what I think.....
I think Yoshi is a wonderful character; he's cute, kicks butt, and is always there for Mario when he needs him. Basically, he's Mario's side-kick. Miyamoto thought, "Instead of a horse, why not a dino?" It was a creative idea, in my opinion.
Toad is a mushroom and doesn't fight that often. He's really not all that important; his job is to protect the Princess, which he does badly. Mario wouldn't have to save her sorry butt if Toad just did his job. In my opinion, he should be used to blow up enemies with suicide bob-ombs, 'cause there are alot of Toads.
So there you have it. Toad is more of a sacrifice character, while Yoshi is a strong side-kick that Mario needs.
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I always liked Toad, I even find his annoying voice not annoying. I liked Yoshi until the newer games where he's a bit too much like a kindergarten teacher. You know, perfect manners, rainbows, appreciation of fellow people... sadly, it's what we should like but don't.
And hey, what about Bowser? I like him more than Toad AND Yoshi!
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I liked Yoshi until the newer games where he's a bit too much like a kindergarten teacher. You know, perfect manners, rainbows, appreciation of fellow people... sadly, it's what we should like but don't.
You should see Yoshi in Super Mario Strikers.
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Yeah, that's the only reason that Toad and Yoshi are a tie for me. Super Mario Strikers. He's actually like one of the guys for once.
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So, I guess Super Mario Strikers is good? I played the demo and got very confused (having had no previous soccer game experience, except that the ball goes in the goal.. Remember the movie the Big Green?)
Anyway, I was just more than slightly confused by it.. and why wasn't Toad one of the selectable team captains? Is one of them in the regular game?
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I like all of Toad's voices. The cool-type voice in MK64 and the croaky-type one in the more recent ones. I don't really remember the MKSC "Ya-hoh!" one, but I don't remember having a problem with it. Yoshi's old Zip-zoo noise was awesome, it somehow fits him and is unlike anything you've ever heard before. MK64 added ways to make it match his feelings... Happy: Za-zipzo-ZIPzoo! Falling off a cliff-Zip-zoop-zugh... But the new one's good too. "Hup! Hoooaaaghh....!" "Wah!" "A-woah-woah-woah..." I still don't know why he shouts "Yoshi!" but whatever...
Toad and Yoshi are both perfect characters. In the next Mario RPG, where toads have more prominent roles (as do yoshis,) I can picture a toad army where they have camouflage heads and sunglasses, and Bob-Ombs... that would be awesome. Although, they have to fail their job so Mario has something to do. It's been a while since Mario's ridden Yoshi, too... what was it, SMSu?
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Anyway, I was just more than slightly confused by it.. and why wasn't Toad one of the selectable team captains? Is one of them in the regular game?
No, he is a side-kick you can pick to help your captain. Along with him come hammer bros., Birdo and Koopas.
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Games I want: Super Mario Strikers
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I'm sorry. I like Toad, but I first saw Yoshi during the period of my childhood where I was intrigued with dinosaurs.
I love Toad's scream in MK64.
Same. I was into dinosaurs when Super Mario World came around, and it's a favorite pasttime of mine to see how many times I could hit Toad with red shells in Mario Kart 64. His screaming voice was my favorite part of that game. That, and seeing the 3D model of Yoshi on the Select Player screen. When I first saw that, I was like "Yoshi's real! ^_^" I still think the 3D models in Mario Kart 64 -on the Select Player screen- are the best models of the main characters ever done. The render of Yoshi in the Smash Bros. Melee opening cinematic where he's running along with the Yoshi pack comes pretty close though.
Loved Yoshi ever since his first appearance, had absolutely no sympathy for Toad.
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I love both toad ad yoshi. But I love yoshi a little more because
A. He is the star of one of my top 5 favorite games-yoshis island
and B. Toad is being replaced by Toadsworth as the peaches helper.
I think that toad needs to have a game of his own. He as a big enough fanbase and it would be awsome
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Yoshi, no doubt about it.
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If you can't 100% say Shy Guys, I would have to say Geno from Mario RPG
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Wow. Poor Toad is being beaten by a landslide. I feel really sorry for the little mushroom, but I still sitck with Yoshi as my favorite non-human. In fact Yoshi is my favorite Mario character, followed closely by the Bros. Toad is my third favorite, considering the Bros are tied at second.
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I remember when my siblings and I played MK64, we usually took ownership over a certain driver, and since Toad wasn't taken, I'd always use him. He was the smallest, just like how I was the youngest! We were the underdogs together! My brother that always won was usually Yoshi, and Yoshi's always fine and all, but... Toad and I can rule the world!
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I've locked the voting, with Toad at 5 votes (-_-;) and Yoshi at 18 votes :(
It seems Yoshi is preferred over Toad. I still don't understand how a character that was introduced 10 years after the Mario series (as a powerup) was started is more popular than one of the most original characters in the series.
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That's because Yoshi is green and Toad isn't. :D
Seriously, though, it's because Yoshi is cuter. When my sister plays Mario Kart, she always plays as Yoshi. And I owm her with Luigi. :)