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Video Games => Mario Chat => Topic started by: SushieBoy on August 05, 2006, 02:41:56 AM
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Should their be one? It has been rumored for a long time, and I would really like it if Nintendo did do a SMRPG remake on the DS or GBA. Super Mario Advance 5: Super Mario RPG OR Super Mario RPG DS. Wouldn't it be nice to take one of the greatest mario games ever anywhere? I know I think so. (since i sold my original, because when I was 6 I had difficulty bearing the first Croco) Because it's really hard to find the game in stores, you can mosly find them in the internet. So I would really like it if Nintendo did this, what do you think?
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I hope so. I want it, but I want a new one, not an old one with coffee stains on which probably keeps crashing, so the DS seems to be the best option. It may be with the Wii, if so i'll download it and won't get a new version if released, but there is no guarantee that is is available from the Wii.
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Should SMRPG be remade? Answer: Yes. Very yes.
I really really really really REALLY wanna try it, but I don't have a SNES. Nor are copies of this game easy to comeby nowadays. I don't care which handheld it would be remade for. All that matters to me that it gets remade. However, Nintendo would need Square's say-so. I wouldn't be able to download it on Wii, even if it will be available, till I get a new computer.
(rant)Nothing, nowadays, is meant for any pre-OS X Mac; especially stuff on the Internet. It really *bleep* me off. My OS 9 is even lagging because of this.(end rant)
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Kojinka, you could easily upgrade. Mac OS 9 is long gone.
And yes, I would like a remake of SMRPG.
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I want no Super Mario RPG remake. Buy a SNES and buy the game. Do it now.
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But it's so hard to get the game!
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I'll let you borrow my copy of the game if you want, SB.
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I would love a remake of SMRPG. I never got it for the SNES amd I'm eager to play it. Hopfully, it would have some added content, like some new sidequests and enemies. It would be for the DS, since the DS has all the buttons of the SNES.
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Do you really mean that, TC?
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Well, kinda. The problem is getting the cartridge from my house to your house.
Maybe I can saerch through ebay and buy one for ya.
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You don't have to go and buy me one, only even at eBay it's hard, I know, I've tried, TWICE. And in both cases they where out of games, and afterwards I stopped trying.
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If you don't mind the legal aspect of it, it might be easier to get a ROM of SMRPG and an emulator.
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That could be an option, only if it's legal.
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It has been rumored for a long time,
Rumored, no. The subject of about a million petitions that Nintendo and Square seem to like to pretend don't exist, yes. I'd totally buy a DS or GBA remake (preferably a DS remake) just because it'd be portable and... reliable. My SNES coughs sometimes and dumps all the save files, you know? On all my games somehow. Oh, and think of all the people who could now get the opportunity to own it. The thought "Buy a SNES and SMRPG and some controllers and pray they don't break in the mail truck" is a lot less attractive than "Buy SMRPG for a handheld I already own," right?
In short, DS please.
Edit: No cop is going to come bust down your door and arrest you for playing a 10-year-old game through emulation. And, if they did... then you are without doubt the worst pirate I've ever heard of. But really, they've got their hands full with pot smokers and underage drinkers and crap like that. I personally use Morpheus for all my downloads.
Edit 2: Oh, but the SNES experience is way better than the emulation experience. Especially if you're using a terrible emulator like ZSNES and the sound sucks. But I did manage to make a nice animated GIF with the help of the ROM... and Imageready. It's right here (http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/6350/mariopeacezl9.gif).
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That brings back memories.
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Awesome game for sure, and while I know the folks in Europe (and Austrailia, right?) missed out on SMRPG the first time around, I did not. So me, personally? I could care less if they rerelease it on GBA or DS. Frankly, I'd rather have a brand new Mario adventure game (platformer or RPG) rather than yet ANOTHER Super Mario Remake.
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Haven't there only been three remakes? And 64 and mario bros. have loads of big changes. So that only leaves SMW for the GBA.
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What the dukar?
The games that have been remade:
-SMB2
-SMW
-YI
-SMB3
-MB
-SM64
There you do.
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But remakes aren't bad, they give the opportunity to make more Mario fans...
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Kojinka, you could easily upgrade. Mac OS 9 is long gone.
Easier said than done. >_< Because of drought, and that stupid wedding trip to New Mexico, my dad and I won't be able to afford a new Mac for me till my 19th birthday. And if I upgrade the computer I already have, there will be less room in it for other things.
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ZSNES is an excellent emulator with excellent performance and excellent sound.
A SMRPG reissue wouldn't hurt, but a remake? Absolutely not. I'll have none of this adding sidequests and enemies. It's a perfectly good game already. Why would you want to mess that up?
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Instead of a remake. I want a sequel. A direct sequel with even better RPG elements and tons of cameos from the classic Final Fantasy games. (If it can happen in a basketball game, it can happen here.)
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But remakes aren't bad, they give the opportunity to make more Mario fans...
I'd rather have Nintendo make NEW Mario games with NEW ideas than just crank out the old ones over and over again. The original games have been available in different formats, and will all be in easy reach on the Wii. I'm sick of ports, I want REAL new games, not repackaged old ones.
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I never said I wanted anything added to it. It's perfect as is. Just release it on the DS.
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But Nintendo likely wouldn't do that. They would try and cram new stuff into the game, which needs nothing more than what was on the original. I'd rather that it wasn't remade onto the DS, or at all, just because there would be some cheap way to include the touch screen. but it doesn't matter what I want, since even if it was released again, I wouldn't buy it; I'd rather play it on the SNES.
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The reason nintendo would make a remake because IT'S SO FREAKING HARD TO GET THE ORIGINAL!!! That's why thay made SM64DS!! Because you can't find the original anywhere!!!! Okay, *deep breathe*......rant......over...
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Funny, I can find it where I work every couple months or so...
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Well, where do you work?
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You think Square would allow them to add anything to it though? I think if it just got the All-Stars treatment, it'd be fine... there weren't a whole lot of glitches to fix... in fact, I can't recall any. And the graphics don't need any help either... so a port would be best. A SNES-DS port would work, you wouldn't have to make any new button arrangements, but then there's the other screen. What to do with it? I say the stats should go on one screen and the action on the other. It makes room, for one thing.
With some small alterations, a SNES-GBA port would also work, but it probably wouldn't sell as much as a SNES-DS port...
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I agree with Bird Person, I'd rather have it for the DS rather than the GBA. I think it would work better anyway.
But first...
I have to get a DS.
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But Nintendo likely wouldn't do that. They would try and cram new stuff into the game, which needs nothing more than what was on the original. I'd rather that it wasn't remade onto the DS, or at all, just because there would be some cheap way to include the touch screen. but it doesn't matter what I want, since even if it was released again, I wouldn't buy it; I'd rather play it on the SNES.
They didn't cram new stuff into Mario World, did they?
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Because SNES emulator for DS.
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They didn't cram new stuff into Mario World, did they?
Differences between Mario & Luigi. The ability to get colored Yoshis outside of Star World. Ability to save anywhere. (These all made the game easier.) I think the things the anti-remake people dread most... are voice clips. SMRPG is a game best off without them.
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I don't mind the voice clips as much as random stuff shoehorned into the game for no reason.
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Differences between Mario & Luigi. The ability to get colored Yoshis outside of Star World. Ability to save anywhere. (These all made the game easier.) I think the things the anti-remake people dread most... are voice clips. SMRPG is a game best off without them.
1-Luigi was redesigned when they put Mario World with All Stars (Super Mario All Stars + Super Mario World)so they hadn't done that as a feature.
2-I think there was a way to get coloured yoshis out of star worls originally, but you have to unlock something. No idea how, I did it once, so it's not much of a major change.
3-Saving everywhere is hardly the type of thing that you're gonna protest about, is it?
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Yes it is, You want me to beat a level, run back to a ghost house, and beat that level, probably dying in the process, mabye a game over, then I lose my proggress!!! Worth prostesting to me...
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No, we're protesting against games that let you save everywhere.
Luigi was redesigned in SMAS+W with no physics changes. I am not against the physics changes.
You get different colored Yoshis by finding a baby one and feeding it 5 enemies or a powerup. Much harder to obtain and keep in the original version than it is in the SMA2 version.
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oops, my mistake!
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The saving anywhere feature was added, i think, more for the portable experience becuse it would be convienient. Its a pain when you lose progress because you reached your destination.
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I still want to see SMRPG remade or ported to either GBA or DS. I've heard so many good things about it. There are fans, like me, whose parents wouldn't allow them to own a game console till long after SNES was gone. I wouldn't be complaining about this if SNESs were easier to find. (please don't give me the 'search eBay' thing. I mean, how do I know that the unit I'm bidding on actually functions properly? How do I know someone isn't trying to scam me?)
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I bought plenty of used games on Ebay. You just have to know how good the sellers are and what their history of selling things is like. I only look for the most sincere sellers, and make sure the item that I'm buying from them is in really good condition. Ebay is not as faulty as many assume. If someone gets scammed, they don't know how to use Ebay properly.
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I hope its on DS.
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A very bold, clear and direct statment of yours. Oh, and welcome new user!
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A few thoughts here:
1. To the Mac OS X post--if you've used 9 forever you won't like X. This is why I still use my old laptop. The money I could spend buying a new Mac Book I just put into my car instead, since I feel a car is more important than a new computer. As long as I can word process, use AIM, surf the net, and do a little Photoshop now and then I'm happy with the computer.
2. To the person who said Super Mario 64 is rare--I thought it was common for the Nintendo 64. Everyone I knew who had a Nintendo 64 back in the day had it.
3. And finally, Super Mario R.P.G. A friend of mine told me that I'd do better on that one than I would one like Super Mario 64. He had an SNES and the game but told me to download the emluator and ROM instead, saying it was legal because the system and game were there (he had both). This was about five years ago, and there was this program called SNES 9X for Macintosh. He found a copy of the game online and I did find it to be more strategical than Mario 64.
I always leave this one off the list of games I've played since I played it on the computer and not the physical Nintendo. For a guy not into games, and who wasn't sure what R.P.G. stood for until two years after playing the game, I did pretty well. I'd love to see this released to Game Cube--I'd probably buy it if it came out, and that's coming from a guy who doesn't buy very many games.
The logic and strategy of this one did it for me. Being a ballplayer you always are analyzing matchups, so I think this is where my skills came in handy. The game also had some good jokes in it (I remember a reference to Bruce Lee that had me laughing really hard). There wasn't much in the way of "gaming" so my bad controller (keyboard) skills didn't hurt me too much.
One comment about the SNES 9X program--I have an OS 9 version so I'm sure one exist for whoever needed it.
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You want a Mario PRG for the Gamecube? Play Paper Mario: The THousnad-Year Door! It'll knock your socks off!
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That game is awesome! Oh and AB, I might have not been rare while it was just realeased, but it is now.
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If you look at the patent for the Virtual Console, one of the drawings specifically mentions Mario RPG. That's pretty encouraging, especially with Nintendo and Square getting back together again. It's also been rumored for a while now that you'll be able to download VC games to a DS. Ideally, there'd be some way to save it onto a blank cartridge or something, but I doubt it. Still, there's a pretty good chance you'll be able to play SMRPG on a DS before too long, and I've seen SNESs on eBay for more than the $330 for a Wii and DS.
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Oh yeah! I forgot about the virtual console! Bet Nintendo will put it up to download.
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Only problem is that Square owns the rights to all the non-Mario characters in that game. But that's the problem with any possible remake of SMRPG.
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If a character made their debut appearance on a Mario game, they are likely a Mario character. Even if a third party owns the rights to that character, that character is still a Mario character.
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I think they ought to make it for the GBA, because then it would be playable on both the GBA and the DS. Plus I don't have a DS. By "remake" I mean "exactly the same as the original but played on the newer system".
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You mean 'port' right?
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There are no non-Mario characters in SMRPG besides Link and Samus. That said, Square still owns partial rights to all SMRPG-exclusive characters.
Super Mario 64 is not rare. It's a bit uncommon, but not rare. SMRPG I would go ahead and put in the "rare" category, although it's still not incredibly hard to find.
If you buy a SNES for $300 I feel sorry for you.
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Wha???? Samus and Link are in the game??? Oh yay, a huge serving of spoilers for me!!
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Why wouldn't Square let Nintendo do this? They'd get credit, probably even money... and they wouldn't even have to do anything! Making money off of something you did and made money for ten years ago sounds like a good deal to me.
Link, Samus, F-Zero and Star Fox all make cameo appearances. Link's is pretty awesome. Samus makes two cameos, actually. If yu don't like spoilers, PLAY THE GAME!!! You'll kick yourself for not doing it before!
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Oh yeah, I read about Link sleeping in one of the bed's in a Town of Rose.
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Characters like Geno may be owned by Square, but they're still Mario characters. Oh, and I've heard rumors that Nintendo might buy the rights for the SMRPG characters from Square.
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It should be for the DS. It could be a tiny bundle
Super Mario RPG Bundle Pack! 2 Games in one!
Super Mario RPG and Paper Mario.
Do you like the idea?
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That would all fit in a DS card-tridge? SMRPG's was 32 megabits. Paper Mario's, 320. and the DS card can hold 1024. Wow...! More than I expected... Heck, I'd buy it.
Anyhow, people who own an M3 (http://www.m3adapter.com/) for the DS can already play SMRPG with portability. It's the newest version of the GBAMP I ordered in the mail... now I see why Chupperson tried to make me not buy it, I should've gotten M3 instead. But that's okay, I'll buy it in two years or so.
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SMRPG Remake?
[Oh] yes!
Count me in!
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I doubt SNESDS can properly emulate SMRPG yet, so you don't have to regret it on that front. Yet.
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What is SNESDS? I've never heard of it.
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I'll place my bet on "DS ROM that can emulate SNES games," as PocketNES is a GBA ROM that emulates NES games. That way, you can play the emulator on the GBA/DS.
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SNES DS is an emulator you can use to "play" SNES roms on your DS. Before you start trying to find it, you need to realize that you need special hardware to run the program. Setups that would get you running this range from $50 to over $100 US dollars. And considering that SNES DS doesnt even work well with Super Mario World, i doubt it will ever be able to run games like SMRPG which make use of the SFX chip.
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SNES DS is an emulator you can use to "play" SNES roms on your DS. Before you start trying to find it, you need to realize that you need special hardware to run the program. Setups that would get you running this range from $50 to over $100 US dollars. And considering that SNES DS doesnt even work well with Super Mario World, i doubt it will ever be able to run games like SMRPG which make use of the SFX chip.
Super Mario RPG Did not use the Super FX chip.
However, It employed the SA-1 chip on the cartridge. This chip is essentially a 65816 clocked at 10 MHz, running on an ASIC.
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It really wouldnt matter to me. only problem, they are starting to slow down on GBA games. That would be a good idea.
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Super Mario RPG Did not use the Super FX chip.
However, It employed the SA-1 chip on the cartridge. This chip is essentially a 65816 clocked at 10 MHz, running on an ASIC.
Really. I always thought that the extra contacts on the cart and the fact that it wouldn't work in my TriStar64 was because the Super FX chip was needed.
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i think there should eb a mario collection like the zelda one it could include mario all stars, SMRPG, super mario 64 and paper mario
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The LoZ collectors' edition is kind of like All Stars, except it didn't have LttP. :(
Edit: I didn't word that right. what I ment is that All Stars had the first three SMBs, but the LoZ collectors' edition left out the thrid Zelda game, which is LttP
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They figured people already had it on GBA, and didn't want to be redundant with GCN playability. (The OoT/MQ disc disrupts my non-reduncancy theory.)
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I hope it comes out for the Wii soon.
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They figured people already had it on GBA, and didn't want to be redundant with GCN playability. (The OoT/MQ disc disrupts my non-reduncancy theory.)
Of course, by "figured people already had it," he means "didn't want to lose any money on the ones who didn't."
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Like me. I ended up buying LttP/FS after playing Wind Waker and the Collector's Edition, since I really enjoyed all those games (except I still haven't gotten the hang of Zelda II yet). Yes, Wind Waker was the first Zelda game I played.
/me hangs head in shame.
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Does anyone have the hang of Zelda II?
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Yes, I beat it and in fact pwned it. It's all in the wrist.
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Zelda 2 as in LoZ:LA? I looove that game but it's dang hard. I can only get to Ganon's Castle with almost no life left. Anyway, on the subject of this topic...
Pocket SNES (http://www.pocketsnes.net/) + GBA Flash Cart (http://www.gameboy-advance.net/flash_card/gba_flash_advance_cards.htm) + SMRPG Rom = SMRPG on your GBA/DS! Tada!
But I own SMRPG for SNES so I don't need that! Hahaha.
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And it's not like the emulation is good enough to let you play SMRPG (at least properly).
And no, Link's Awakening is not Zelda II.
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From the context, I'm guessing they meant "Link's Adventure", which is completely screwing up the title but closer than mistaking the entire game for Link's Awakening.
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What the dukar?
The games that have been remade:
-SMB2
-SMW
-YI
-SMB3
-MB
-SM64
There you do.
Super Mario All*stars was a remake of the first 3 Mario games (SMB, SMB2, and SMB3) with updated graphics. Since then, each game has been remade numerous times..
MB- updated graphics, came with every Mario Advance game, and Superstar Saga.
SMB- has been on the Gameboy Color, the GBA, Gamecube (Animal Crossing), the first level was redone for Super Mario Advance 4: SMB3, and the Wii (Virtual Console). It has yet to recieve a remake like the other titles have.
SMB2- remade for GBA
SMB3- remade for GBA, special features added with Ereader
SMW- remade for GBA
YI- remade for GBA
SM64- remade for DS, appears on the Wii (VC)
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Whoops, it's been a while since I played that. I meant AoL but LA is fun too :) Besides, AoL sounds like the popular ISP... (My terminology screw-ups drive Chupperson insane. Oh, and I have the gold cartridge version of AoL.)
Anyway, the emulation is good enough, just not perfect. If someone who's good at programming for GBA wanted to try to port it, I'm sure it would take a lot less time than actually waiting for Nintendo to listen to the petitions and make a GBA/DS version. Nintendo would probably screw up SMRPG with those annoying "new" bits and horrible voiceovers anyway...
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Hmmm... But what if they didn't screw up and Mallow and Geno got GOOD voice actors?
At any rate, I'm left with the hollow feeling between "Aww man, my GBA Movie Player doesn't open ROMs that large so I cannot use PocketSNES" and "I knew it wouldn't work." It is cold. Getting one of those flash cards would be really worth it though.
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Toad, SMW was re-done in another SMA treatment, it had a diffrent luigi! It had the SMB trilogy and SMW!!
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Are you referring to The Super Mario Advance series or Super Mario All-Stars + Super Mario World? The SMAs didn't include SMB.
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Also Fwirt... where is your proof that SMRPG, being one of the more complex SNES titles, has been successfully emulated on GBA? I'm really quite sure SNES->GBA emulation is nowhere near that good yet.
And your suggestion of a homebrew port makes me want to scream out in laughter, also. I mean, it might theoretically work with enough people working on it, but stuff like that really usually doesn't happen.
And what does porting have to do with emulation?
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The Super Mario All-star's treatment!
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Also Fwirt... where is your proof that SMRPG, being one of the more complex SNES titles, has been successfully emulated on GBA? I'm really quite sure SNES->GBA emulation is nowhere near that good yet.
And your suggestion of a homebrew port makes me want to scream out in laughter, also. I mean, it might theoretically work with enough people working on it, but stuff like that really usually doesn't happen.
Good point, I hadn't really checked out SNES -> GBA that much. I just saw it and went, "OOOooooo"
I homebrew port might work..... If all the whining people actually worked on it. Soooo many people have signed those dang petitions, but no one seems to want to do anything about it...
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Link, Samus, F-Zero and Star Fox all make cameo appearances. Link's is pretty awesome. Samus makes two cameos, actually. If yu don't like spoilers, PLAY THE GAME!!! You'll kick yourself for not doing it before!
Refresh my memory on this F-Zero and Star Fox cameo.
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Refresh my memory on this F-Zero and Star Fox cameo.
Hinopio's Inn-shop inside the volcano. There are F-Zero vehicles on the shelf.
No idea on Starfox though.
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There's an Arwing along with the F-Zero vehicles, if I'm not mistaken.
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Ah, yes. It is so.
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Ah, yes. It is so.
I forgot about those. Ah, good ol' SMRPG....
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Toad, SMW was re-done in another SMA treatment, it had a diffrent luigi! It had the SMB trilogy and SMW!!
No, it wasn't.. Super Mario All*stars was released in two different versions: the one with SMW, and the one without SMW. The one without SMW is the more common one, and the one with SMW is rare.
Anyway, I am aware of the different Luigi. Luigi is not just a palette swap of Mario in the rare version of All*stars, and they redid the sprite also in the GBA version of SMW.
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No they didn't, It's just the Luigi sprites from the SMAS SMB2.
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1. It's Super Mario All-Stars, and the acronym is SMAS.
2. SMW:SMA2 does not use the same Luigi sprite as SMAS+SMW, and it isn't the Luigi sprite from SMAS-SMB2.
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I don't think nintendo will release a GBA/DS remake of SMRPG but rather that it'll be available on the Wii's Virtual Console for download.
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Precisely.
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That'll happen, but I won't be downloading it on account of, my SNES does the justice. But I can't take my SNES or Wii out of the house.
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YOU FIGHT FOR THE JUSTICE ?
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(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fkontek.net%2Fstarhaven%2Ftmk%2Fsmw-luigicomparison.png&hash=6472be5029bdb6c47b8fd9cdddf81c3c)
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That's what I'm saying! SMW GBA uses badly colered sprites from SMB2 (The All Stars Version) You ever wonder why his jump is all fluttery? Duh!
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They're not the same. Their heads are almost the same, but not quite (the eyes are different), and the body is totally different, more similar to SMW's.
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Aww mannnn. I thought I was right for once!
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They intentionally did the bad coloring because Game Boy screens used to be so dark that washed-out colors looked normal, while "correct" colors would be very dark. Looks bad on a computer screen because of that.
Ever see one of those GBA games that came out during the SP transition? A lot of them had an option to make the colors washed out or not, depending on your system (or use of GB Player).
Now that, for instance, my DS Lite screen is brighter than my monitor (who would have ever imagined!), this is no longer neccessary.
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Also, Luigi's flutter jump is differently animated than the SMB2 one, so yeah, you couldn't really mistake the SMA2 sprites for the SMB2 sprites.
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Wait, hold on.... Luigi's sprites were different in the SMAS + SMW and just plain SMAS cartridges?! (Didn't know that...) Anyway, if this is true, I'll have to compare my "common" cart with my friend's "rare" cart. I think he has a whole bunch of rare SNES stuff and doesn't know it...
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You mean his sprites were different in original SMW and SMAS+SMW versions. Regular SMAS wouldn't have any SMW sprite version, obviously.
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Also, there are no differences between the sprites for other games in SMAS and SMAS+SMW.
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Wait, hold on.... Luigi's sprites were different in the SMAS + SMW and just plain SMAS cartridges?! (Didn't know that...) Anyway, if this is true, I'll have to compare my "common" cart with my friend's "rare" cart. I think he has a whole bunch of rare SNES stuff and doesn't know it...
Don't mean to derail, but while looking up how rare some games were that I was interested in purchasing, I decided to consult my old friend, this list: http://snescentral.edgeemu.com/lists/snes_rarity_list.txt
Note that SMAS+SMW gets a "D" for rarity, making it less common than SMAS, but not rare.
However, I notice that plenty of games I own are on the higher end of the scale that surprise me. Kirby Super Star has a B. Rex Ronan: Experimental Surgeon is an A- (okay, I never expected that one to be common). Top Gear 3000... B. So rarity... WHATEVER.
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You rely on a a guide to tell you how rare games are? I usually find out on how often I see them in stores. And SMRPG Is wayy more than a C! Same with Earth Bound!
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Haha, I'm going to trust a guide written by many people who have put countless hours into looking around stores and on eBay and such than 1 person such as yourself. No offense.
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None taken.
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That list seems pretty accurate. Although I would note that Super Mario RPG and Super Mario Kart rarely ever come in where I work, and we get lots of Top Gear 3000 and Super Solitaire. So, yeah.
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Anybody know where I could find a copy of this game? Like on eBay somewhere?
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Yeah, eBay is a good place to look.
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Wow....just wow.
I was a member of the SMRPG Legacy forums before they closed. I am now a member of Super Mario Legacy. And throughout all the time I tried to help with the SMRPG GBA/DS remake campaign, I have never seen a topic about it get this big on any forum.
Although I would still like to see it portable on the DS, I am happy that it will eventually be available for the Virtual Console. I don't know how much time my SNES has left before it bites the dust... :(
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SMRPG Legacy forums are shut down? Man! SMRPG Legacy are my fave place for Mario RPG info!
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Why do people think solid state equipment is going to wear out?
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Because people enjoy blaming time, when in fact what wore out the system was their little cousin playing Godzilla on the poor piece machinery. Poor time, always getting the short end of the stick...