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Title: Sliced from "Censoring" in Site Discussion
Post by: WarpRattler on February 27, 2011, 09:00:32 AM
Offensiveness isn't grounds for legal coercion
Yes, it is. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller_test)
Title: Sliced from "Censoring" in Site Discussion
Post by: Turtlekid1 on February 27, 2011, 12:17:04 PM
That's debatable (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_intent).
Title: Sliced from "Censoring" in Site Discussion
Post by: PaperLuigi on February 27, 2011, 12:27:14 PM
Yes, it is. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller_test)

I meant "It shouldn't be."

That's like using the Defense of Marriage Act as an excuse for keeping gay marriage banned.
Title: Sliced from "Censoring" in Site Discussion
Post by: Turtlekid1 on February 27, 2011, 12:29:48 PM
I think as far as TMK discussions go, homosexuality is the new Hitler.
Title: Sliced from "Censoring" in Site Discussion
Post by: PaperLuigi on February 27, 2011, 12:47:46 PM
That's debatable (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_intent).

I don't like originalism. Our right to privacy wouldn't exist under originalism. Just saying. That was guaranteed by Griswold v. Connecticut. The U. S. Constitution contains no express right to privacy. It was established by interpreting the Fourth and Third Amendments, but you'd never be able to reach that decision as a literalist.
Title: Sliced from "Censoring" in Site Discussion
Post by: Turtlekid1 on February 27, 2011, 12:57:07 PM
Except the Founders wanted privacy, which was their motive for adding the Fourth Amendment.  If we subscribe to Original Intent, then of course we're going to see a Right to Privacy in the text, because it was supposed to be seen there.

Anyway, my link was mostly an argument against the idea that the Supreme Court needs all these tests and standards of their own invention to interpret law.
Title: Sliced from "Censoring" in Site Discussion
Post by: PaperLuigi on February 27, 2011, 01:18:14 PM
Except the Founders wanted privacy, which was their motive for adding the Fourth Amendment.  If we subscribe to Original Intent, then of course we're going to see a Right to Privacy in the text, because it was supposed to be seen there.

They wanted a right to privacy? Well, you wouldn't know that by just looking at the text. The Fourth Amendment just guards against unreasonable search and seizures.
Title: Sliced from "Censoring" in Site Discussion
Post by: Turtlekid1 on February 27, 2011, 01:29:48 PM
...because of the underlying belief that the government shouldn't be intruding on the people's privacy.
Title: Sliced from "Censoring" in Site Discussion
Post by: PaperLuigi on February 27, 2011, 01:46:15 PM
What was their original intent regarding condom use?
Title: Sliced from "Censoring" in Site Discussion
Post by: Turtlekid1 on February 27, 2011, 05:20:39 PM
I can't imagine why they would need to put anything into the Constitution about condom use, since the the rape of the people by government that they were trying to prevent was figurative.
Title: Sliced from "Censoring" in Site Discussion
Post by: Lizard Dude on February 27, 2011, 08:58:28 PM
Rapists don't use condoms.
Title: Sliced from "Censoring" in Site Discussion
Post by: Insane Steve on February 27, 2011, 09:54:13 PM
I vote to split the last 15 posts or so into the Not at the Dinner Table board, except I can't do that myself.
Title: Sliced from "Censoring" in Site Discussion
Post by: Turtlekid1 on February 27, 2011, 10:44:19 PM
Rapists don't use condoms.
Listen, just because you don't...
Title: Sliced from "Censoring" in Site Discussion
Post by: Lizard Dude on February 28, 2011, 12:09:44 AM
I am not a rapist.
Title: Sliced from "Censoring" in Site Discussion
Post by: Lizard Dude on February 28, 2011, 12:12:33 AM
I am not a rapist.
Title: Sliced from "Censoring" in Site Discussion
Post by: Lizard Dude on February 28, 2011, 12:07:21 AM
I am not a rapist.
Title: Sliced from "Censoring" in Site Discussion
Post by: PaperLuigi on February 28, 2011, 04:11:10 AM
I vote to split the last 15 posts or so into the Not at the Dinner Table board, except I can't do that myself.

I apologize for even arguing with TK.

lol Lizard Dude
Title: Sliced from "Censoring" in Site Discussion
Post by: Weegee on February 28, 2011, 05:10:43 AM
Each time LD insists on his innocence, it becomes less convincing.