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Title: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Advanced Mario on June 22, 2005, 09:22:07 AM
Will there be a new Mario cartoon for Foxbox or kidswb?
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Advanced Mario on June 22, 2005, 09:26:39 AM
Does anybody know info about a new cartoon?
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Screech on June 22, 2005, 01:00:47 PM
No, there isn't.
Any "scripts" you may have read from a mario anime series are bogus.

"At Dukar, we place our emphasis on serving you, supporting
you, and helping you be as successful as possible."
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Advanced Mario on June 22, 2005, 05:54:57 PM
Well if teenage mutant ninja turtles and Sonic got a new cartoon after 10 years.Mario should have a new cartoon it's only fair.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: goodie on June 22, 2005, 08:04:51 PM
Even though a Mario cartoon would be cool. I kind of don't want it to happen. Because of some agreement, if there was an Anime about Nintendo characters, then 4Kids would automatically get the US rights to it. And 4Kids is the worst dub company in existence. They ruin everything. I'm sure they wouldn't even let Charles Martinet do Mario's voice. They'd just re-use their same old actors, and that would be torture to watch.
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Post by: white_arrow on June 22, 2005, 08:51:38 PM
yeah 4kids worse than funimation just look at one piece I love the manga but I just can't watch the anime Zoro or zolo getting slashed by mihawk and not even a single drop of blood so 4kids says that you can almost get killed by the greatest swordsman in the world and not even lose one drop of blood

YOSHIS RULE
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Screech on June 22, 2005, 09:14:19 PM
The shows are dubbed for American television.
It doesn't matter what company dubs them, if it is going to be shown on cartoon network or whatever, some shows have to be edited for content.
4kids and Funimation edit out blood and whatnot because the stations carrying those shows have a young target audience, not because they're on some mission to infuriate anime fans.

"At Dukar, we place our emphasis on serving you, supporting
you, and helping you be as successful as possible."
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Pirate on June 23, 2005, 09:09:31 AM
Pfft, even if they did make a new cartoon, they wouldn't show it in the uk.. or at least for another 7 years till it's all old & dusty =(
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Post by: PaperLuigi on June 23, 2005, 04:35:08 PM
I hate 4Kids. I hope if there is a new Mario cartoon, somehow the good people of America would become so enraged that they would force that stupid company to sell rights to something better. Heck, It wouldn't be so bad if Funimation got it. They at least let characters in DBZ bleed every now and then. God, please don't let 4Kids destroy another Anime!

I'm a-Luigi! Number-a one!
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: goodie on June 23, 2005, 05:05:38 PM
Haha, I found an old sig I had on another site:




Edited by - goodie on 6/23/2005 4:06:09 PM

Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Nintendo Maximus on June 23, 2005, 06:08:22 PM
Personally, if Mario got another animated series, I'd much prefer 4Kids to do it rather than DiC Entertainment. A quote from my cartoon parody fanfic:

"Oooguck! Flood!" Yoshi shivered. "Flood mean water. And I scared of water!"
"Really? I thought that only applied to your species' Isle Delfino branch. And please, Yoshi, don't talk like a baby!" Toadsworth pointed his staff.
"But Yoshi *is* a baby!" Yoshi cowered.
"No you're not; that was a stupid screw-up courtesy of the DiC producers!" Toadsworth complained. "I swear, they're worse than 4Kids! And if you ask me, 4Kids isn't really that bad."

Like Toadsworth said, 4Kids is NOT the worst dubbing company in existence. They're at least better at dubbing than DiC. (Remember what DiC did to "Sailor Moon"?) Besides, wasn't it 4Kids who gave us the new Ninja Turtles cartoon? (Besides, I feel offended when people bash 4Kids - it's like saying Japan's better than America in every way, which is not true.)
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: PaperLuigi on June 23, 2005, 06:40:27 PM
I don't think that Japan is better than America in any way, shape, or form. I just think we should put Anime all on one network, leave it undubbed, and let Americans do their job in the cartooning world. I don't want to start any fights, but the least 4Kids could have done is not screw up plot points to where the story is retarded.

I'm a-Luigi! Number-a one!
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: goodie on June 23, 2005, 09:17:48 PM
I also hate that they change the music for no good reason. Also, they don't translate the words directly. They totally re-write the script from scratch, and throw in corny puns to make up for the original humor that they removed. Also, they are hypocrites for editing out violence in the Animes, when their own TMNT cartoon is often even more violent. What is so hard about directly-translating a show and leaving all the music and dialogue (minus any cussing) alone? It's like they want it to be garbage. Such things confuse me much... [end of rant]
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Black Mage on June 23, 2005, 09:41:53 PM
You can't translate anime scripts directly, and expect what they say to match the mouth movements. I find that kind of work daunting,  and some times I'm extremely impressed how the companies do it. Other times I'm not. You mention corny puns and what not, and express distaste due to removing original humor. However, when showing these anime on television, they're being broadcasted to a wide audience, which doesn't have as much of an understanding of Japanese culture as the more "hardcore" anime fanatics. Since said humor is often based on Japanese linguistics there's not much dubbers can do but remove them in favor of humor English speakers would understand. Unfortunately this often results in a poor quality joke, but sometimes I've been surprised by how clever some of the writers can be.

 As for music I have no answer, and find it frustration as well. However, I do know that sometimes it's difficult to get the rights to the music, or the price is higher than the company is willing to pay. I'm not fond of it either, but it's the way of the world. Of course, there's always the case of Pokémon, where most of the music is kept, but certain songs are changed, usually due to Japanese lyrics. This sort of changing I can understand.

 The situation with violence isn't always up to the company dubbing the show, which is why you sometimes see uncut versions of anime released. That decision often falls on the network who has bought the rights to the play the show, like Cartoon Network, Fox, and what not. Depending on what block the network is going to show the anime, certain scenes need to be edited. I'm all for uncut anime, but you need to understand there are rules and regulations in the industry. So, as long as anime remains in its original form on DVDs, I'm happy.

 4Kids is hardly the worst company out there, and I think they do a great of casting voices. A job I would say rivals pre-Cartoon Network FUNimation. But localized Anime is going to be butchered, regardless of who, what, when and where. There's no use in getting angry about it.

Edited by - Black Mage on 6/23/2005 8:42:44 PM
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Latias Dita on June 23, 2005, 10:56:43 PM
I agree that DIC is the much worse dubbing company than 4Kids. At least 4Kids uses very talents voice actors (Liza Ortiz, Veronica Taylor, Eric Sturat, Tara Jayne, Rachel Lillis) and they leave in orginl music sometimes. I hate how they change things, but they do it so that little kids who know nothing aboutthe orgianl cam enjoy it. I hat eit when they botch up a series, but what can you do. That's why i watch loads of anime on DVD. It's costly, but that way I can watch alot of series uncut, unedited, and dubbed to boot!

A Mario cartoon? I don't know, especaily since i have the vaguest memories of the originals

 Random Manga Quote:
"How can I be in love with a girl who crams bamboo sticks up her nose?!"--Chiharu Eniwa. Girl Got Game volume 7.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Latias Dita on June 23, 2005, 10:56:54 PM
I agree that DIC is the much worse dubbing company than 4Kids. At least 4Kids uses very talents voice actors (Liza Ortiz, Veronica Taylor, Eric Sturat, Tara Jayne, Rachel Lillis) and they leave in orginl music sometimes. I hate how they change things, but they do it so that little kids who know nothing aboutthe orgianl cam enjoy it. I hat eit when they botch up a series, but what can you do. That's why i watch loads of anime on DVD. It's costly, but that way I can watch alot of series uncut, unedited, and dubbed to boot!

A Mario cartoon? I don't know, especaily since i have the vaguest memories of the originals

 Random Manga Quote:
"How can I be in love with a girl who crams bamboo sticks up her nose?!"--Chiharu Eniwa. Girl Got Game volume 7.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on June 24, 2005, 07:32:05 PM
Black Mage: Weren't you the one who mentioned the Cow-terpie pun in some other thread some time ago?

As for a new Mario cartoon, I'll rephrase what I said in another thread:

Anime = a no go. No I have nothing against anime but most VG animes seem terrrible compared to its VG counterpart. A cartoon I wouldn't mind as long as it doesn't include some prepubescent kid hogging the spotlight.

 Kelso: Guys this is a game of Cat & Mouse between me & Hyde. I''m gonna make him admit he''s been going out with Jackie behind my back.
Fez: Guys, what happens in Cat & Mouse if the cat is retarded?
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Glorb on July 20, 2005, 12:18:29 PM
No, a Mario anime is just what it needs! Despite the retarded plotlines of the FoxBox Sonic the Hedgehog anime, I really like it and I have a few tapes of it that I taped from TV. The Kirby anime was good, too. So a Mario anime would be awesome!

Well, this is where the signature goes...
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on July 22, 2005, 02:50:36 PM
If they ever make a Mario cartoon I hope it follows along the lines of the RPG's. I would also like it if they were to use existing characters rather than make new ones to fill a position. There's about 1000 existing characters right now and if they were to use some random kid instead of say Baby Yoshi or Goombario you know heads are gonna roll.

 Kelso: Guys this is a game of Cat & Mouse between me & Hyde. I''m gonna make him admit he''s been going out with Jackie behind my back.
Fez: Guys, what happens in Cat & Mouse if the cat is retarded?
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Big_C on July 22, 2005, 04:41:25 PM
I would like to see a new mario cartoon, I hope it would be better than Super Mario World: The tv series. I hope they will remake the SMB Super Show. Have Charles Martinet as the voice of Mario And Luigi. I don't know who would do the live action skits.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Glorb on July 22, 2005, 06:10:02 PM
They could give two nerdy Mario fans plastic surgery and give them Italian accent drugs.

Well, this is where the signature goes...
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Martini on July 25, 2005, 09:35:32 AM
you're right about mario getting a new show sonic has one and mario should have one too. great statement.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: PaperLuigi on July 25, 2005, 02:30:12 PM
They might give Toad the voice of a 40 year old cab driver from L.A like Iceman from the Megaman anime. That would suck.

"Rockin Robots, Dr. Light!"~Megaman
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: booo95 on November 20, 2005, 08:32:49 AM
if there is a new mario cartoon don't let dic make it. they couldn't get the mario world right if they play and beat all of the mario games in the world. in super mario bros super show made by dic, mouser works for bowser. subcon was a dream.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: ottermi619 on November 20, 2005, 10:51:00 AM
Haha, I found an old sig I had on another site:



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<p>Edited by - goodie on 6/23/2005 4:06:09 PM
lol What a good one!

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if there is a new mario cartoon don't let dic make it. they couldn't get the mario world right if they play and beat all of the mario games in the world. in super mario bros super show made by dic, mouser works for bowser. subcon was a dream.
I'd rather if DiC DID do another Mario cartoon. That won't happen anymore thanks 4KIDS! :rolleyes

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4Kids would automatically get the US rights to it
Is it just me, or do they have a monopoly on anime film licensing?
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Post by: Mad dog on November 20, 2005, 07:41:07 PM
Yes,if they do I hope they make it like the old Super Mario Bros 3 cartoon.That would be cool!
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on November 20, 2005, 07:48:23 PM
I think we should all be a little more thankful that 4kids didn't get the rights to Naruto (which they were planning to do if One Piece was a success).

I heard some people on other message boards talking about how great a Super Smash Bros. cartoon (in the spirit of Justice League) would be and the more I thought about, the more I thought "Wow...that's a horrible idea".
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Nintendo Maximus on November 21, 2005, 03:59:40 PM
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I'd rather if DiC DID do another Mario cartoon. That won't happen anymore thanks 4KIDS! :rolleyes
No way! DiC's terrible at adaptating licenses! Remember "The Real Ghostbusters"? Nobody looked like the actors who played them! And in the "Heathcliff" cartoon, 'Cliff's human buddy Iggy Nutmeg looked nothing like his comic strip counerpart. And even worse, in the "Battletoads" cartoon pilot that thankfully never became a full series, they claimed the 'Toads' secret identities were a trio of high school students, when in the game's storyline, they used to be game technicians! Plus, DiC never bothers enforcing holiday spirit in their Christmas specials (see "Inspector Gadget Saves Christmas" and "Sonic Christmas Blast" if you don't believe me). Speaking of which, in the "Koopa Klaus" episode, Mario-tachi makes their entrance at the North Pole by burrowing from underground - if you ask me, it's more support for my theory that DiC got Mario mixed up with Bugs Bunny.
Anyway, I much would've preferred Mario's cartoon show to be made by Warner Bros. Besides, it's not like 4Kids is angering anime fans on purpose. (They just don't want kids to do bad things that the Japanese consider okay, like smoking and being homosexual.)
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on November 21, 2005, 09:36:09 PM
Psst, NM, I wouldn't bring up Homosexuality here. You'd start up a religous/political flamefest that wouldn't end well and I'm pretty sure no one considers smoking to be okay. It just adds on to the bad boy/girl image.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: UM+SF on November 22, 2005, 05:48:26 PM
Let's start a religious/political flamefest! Just not here...

if there is a new mario cartoon don't let dic make it. they couldn't get the mario world right if they play and beat all of the mario games in the world.

Right. To qoute my social studies teacher, "a snowball in [heck's] got a better chance" at anyone getting the Mario world correct. The games don't follow any particluar storyline, which is the number one reason for its success.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: ottermi619 on November 28, 2005, 06:34:47 PM
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The games don't follow any particluar storyline, which is the number one reason for its success.
Again, similar to those old theatrical cartoons that you can find on those [rather poor quality] cheapo VHS tapes and DVDs. (I have several of them)
The cartoons (starting at latest with AOSMB3) follow the old theatrical short subject format (loosely).
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Yoshi55 on November 28, 2005, 06:46:00 PM
I would not watch a Mario anime or a Mario cartoon based off of an RPG. Anime annoys me and RPG's give me nightmares similar to the never ending stairs in SM64.
Title: hardly anything Mario in television or cinema would annoy me
Post by: ottermi619 on November 28, 2005, 07:47:11 PM
Not as annoying as the once good, but now dog-awful Pokémon anime. That show follows a constant storyline that constantly bores me out, and has little, or not any real relevance to the game, other than reigion, characters. The plot is also strecthed out very far, further in each season too! :<

ottermi619,
No wonder I initially hated anime (and Pokémon, though I'm starting to fall back to several years ago)
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Post by: MEGAߥTE on November 29, 2005, 12:42:48 AM
(They just don't want kids to do bad things that the Japanese consider okay, like smoking and being homosexual.)

I think in general, they're more against homosexuals than people in the US are... it's just that they don't have a problem portraying it.
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Post by: Nintendo Maximus on November 29, 2005, 10:00:56 PM
The cartoons (starting at latest with AOSMB3) follow the old theatrical short subject format (loosely).
Actually, I'm pretty sure they were already going by the theatrical short format in the SMB Super Show as well. Keep in mind that every four out of five SMB Super Show episodes were Bug Bunny-ish parodies of whatever there was to be ripped off.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: ottermi619 on December 04, 2005, 04:54:42 PM
Actually, I'm pretty sure they were already going by the theatrical short format in the SMB Super Show as well. Keep in mind that every four out of five SMB Super Show episodes were Bug Bunny-ish parodies of whatever there was to be ripped off.
I haven't seen Super Show, so that's why I said latest with SMB3.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Yoshi55 on December 04, 2005, 06:35:12 PM
If there is a new Mario cartoon, I hope it isn't based on SMS. I also hope it is not anime. I hate anime. I have nothing against Japan, I just hate anime. I also hate when they add truly American things to anime just to make it more American. I love America. Anime could never be American no matter how much anyone tried.
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Post by: BP on December 05, 2005, 12:16:48 AM
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Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: ottermi619 on December 05, 2005, 07:09:02 PM
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Anime could never be American no matter how much anyone tried.
Or chinese, or Egyptian, or British, or whatever.
Most of todays TV cartoons are crap compared to those of years ago that ran in theaters.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: BP on December 05, 2005, 07:18:22 PM
I know. I porbably spend less than 1/2 as much time watching cartoons that I used to. Cartoon Network is now purely anime... Nick is plagued by crappy new shows... I never watched Disney...
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Post by: booo95 on December 09, 2005, 06:54:44 PM
They should make a mario cartoon that is like sonicx.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on December 09, 2005, 08:57:06 PM
So Justice League, Teen Titans, Ed Edd n' Eddy, Foster's Home, Powerpuff Girls, Dexter and IGPX are all anime now? My how I'm behind in the times.

Yoshi55 reminds me of Trainman. I wonder why.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: HolyAarom on December 10, 2005, 07:37:24 PM
IGPX is an Anime and Naruto is a slightly dubbed manga translated into anime.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on December 10, 2005, 10:13:08 PM
IGPX is a co production between Cartoon Network and the studio that animated Ghost in the Shell. Thus it is not completly an anime.
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Post by: Ultima Shadow on December 11, 2005, 02:20:01 AM
So Justice League, Teen Titans, Ed Edd n' Eddy, Foster's Home, Powerpuff Girls, Dexter and IGPX are all anime now? My how I'm behind in the times.

Teen Titans is heavily based on anime, but I agree with your point. However, I think they should split Cartoon Network- one for older kids, one for the younger kids.
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Post by: Mr. Wiggles on December 11, 2005, 03:15:59 PM
You mean like the way it's done in the UK? Where there's Cartoon Network, CNX, Toonami, and Boomerang? That'd be pretty cool but considering how hard it is to get Boomerang on most Cable providers it would probably be even worse with another extra channel.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Ultima Shadow on December 11, 2005, 11:15:49 PM
On Cartton Network in Australia, we just have Boomerang and Cartoon Network, but Nickelodeon has also divided into Nick Jr, and Disney Channel has also divided into Playhouse Disney.
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Post by: Mr. Melee on December 12, 2005, 05:28:00 PM
Does this mean you're from Bangladesh? I still need an answer, not a link.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: dude677 on December 12, 2005, 07:39:52 PM
Teen Titans is heavily based on anime, but I agree with your point. However, I think they should split Cartoon Network- one for older kids, one for the younger kids.

They have that Tickle-U thing. *SHUDDERS*
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on December 13, 2005, 10:09:08 AM
Well, CN needed to rip off Nick even more so what better way to do it than to make their own version of Nick Jr.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Mr. Melee on December 14, 2005, 04:56:13 PM
Tickle-U just hearing that makes me want to throw up on someone's new shoes. Or new hardwood floor!
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Ambulance Y on December 14, 2005, 09:00:17 PM
What would be cool would be a Paper Mario cartoon. There would be much more ease to add comedy since PM and PMTTYD are already jam packed with it.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Mr. Melee on December 15, 2005, 09:00:14 AM
That would be pretty cool, and would probably be low-budget, as everything is made out of paper!
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: blackdragon on December 16, 2005, 03:13:09 PM
There is some news of Them releasing a DVD set of the Super Mario Bros Super show next year although I don't know if the original music will be included
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Super Caterina! on December 18, 2005, 08:58:59 AM
I know only that here we are all unlucky...The DVDs you speak very much about have never been sold here (you can't found them also in E-BAY!!!!!)
Then, on smbncentral forum,  I've read the new about the production of 2 Mario anime (one is of the 1986 and the other one 1989) and it has been publicated only in USA and Japan.....
Now, I ask my self: why do you forget european people (especially italian people)??? Maybe no one know there are many fans of Mario and Nintendo in general here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >________<
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: BP on December 18, 2005, 04:10:32 PM
Well, let's think for a second. Look at the Pokemon cartoon and the game. The game is a whole lot better than the cartoon, but the cartoon made the whole Pokemon thing unpopular. The same thing would happen to Mario if the cartoon sucked. I mean, you see a commercial for a new Pokemon movie and everyone says "Crap, another one?"
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: ottermi619 on December 18, 2005, 04:45:11 PM
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the cartoon made the whole Pokemon thing unpopular
It used to be good (for the first 3 or 4 seasons), but now the thing blows!
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on December 18, 2005, 06:55:03 PM
Sales charts agree: Pokemon isn't unpopular. It was a fad in the late 90's yes, but it still makes a hefty ammount of money every year.

If anything hurts the video game industry. it's Hollywood making a mockery of every video game license they get their hands on. Super Mario Bros sucked, Mortal Kombat (minus the first one) sucked, Resident Evil sucked, House of the Dead sucked, Final Fantasy sucked, Dead or Alive will suck, and Tomb Raider sucked.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Super Caterina! on December 20, 2005, 07:48:47 AM
Yes, but Mario film was a total failure! I don't like real people acting charaters as Mario and Co.and the story was completly different to the original one (a strange and dark Mushroom Kingdom...NEVER SEEN AND IMAGINED!!!!)
Also the cartoon wasn't very good (maybe because it's old), but I guess it was BETTER then the film! I remember I woke up every morning at 6 o'clock during my sommer holidays to watch the cartoon and then i returne to the bed! :D :D :D
It's better if they do a new anime (or cartoon) film!
It' s impossible, but it would be more beautiful doing a Mario animation film with the collaboration of Disney and Nintendo! I think it would be a SUCCESS!!!!

Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on December 20, 2005, 05:41:03 PM
Keep hoping Catrina. Disney shut down all animation studios and are now solely trying to make CGI films hoping to cash in on Pixar and Dreamworks success. Poor misguided corporate dudes...
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Bigluigifan1.0 on December 20, 2005, 05:45:56 PM
I remember seeing one ........
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: dude677 on December 21, 2005, 07:57:01 PM
Disney still does animation and live-action films.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Jman on December 21, 2005, 11:45:27 PM
I read a post here about a guy who made a funny reference to Dic in his fanfic.  I also did that in the Ultimate Quest, when Kirby complains about getting his pay docked 50 percent for every word he says besides poyo.

"Oh Tuff, I've always been able to talk.  4kids doesn't let me because they want to pass me off as an unintelligent baby.  And God knows if I try and say any word besides poyo, they dock my pay fifty percent!"

I think that's how it went.


But that was a line that I created for my uploading of TUQ to Fanfiction.net
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: BP on December 23, 2005, 09:31:35 PM
Hey, this is completely off-topic, but the Invader Zim Christmas special is gonna be on at 8 on Nicktoons Network. That's in 30 minutes in case you're not that good at math.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: HolyAarom on December 23, 2005, 09:34:03 PM
Cool.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: ottermi619 on December 28, 2005, 04:27:33 PM
If yous don't want DIC to do anymore video game cartoons, then don't let 4KIDS do any either! That'd elimiate two of two probs.

-ottermi619-
4KIDS=We know what KIDS hate!
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Jman on December 28, 2005, 04:30:22 PM
If they could get the right people to collborate on it, people who actually know a thing or two about the Mario universe, like people from the forums!  I bet if a group of us collaborated on it, we could make a good Mario cartoon.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on December 28, 2005, 07:14:02 PM
The problem is, The Mario universe constantly contradicts itself in each and every passing game. It would be impossible to make a Mario toon with strong continuity.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: HolyAarom on December 28, 2005, 07:15:42 PM
Unless it was based on the game like in SMB3 an episode being a level and a season being a whole world.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: BP on December 28, 2005, 08:58:54 PM
Mario's not for watching anyway. Think of how annoying it would be if Mario had talked in one of the games other than, "Aah!" and "Oh!" and "Oh yeh."
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Yoshi55 on December 31, 2005, 07:03:34 AM
I don't want an Anime Mario cartoon or one based off of SMS. What I want is a Mario cartoon that is American style based off of SM64DS. I would watch that kind of Mario cartoon. Or a brand new one based off of the NES classics series.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Markio on December 31, 2005, 09:07:37 AM
They ought to animate it like they did Donkey Kong Country.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Yoshi55 on December 31, 2005, 09:08:40 AM
Ja. That actually looked good.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Jman on December 31, 2005, 09:28:14 AM
Unless it was based on the game like in SMB3 an episode being a level and a season being a whole world.


Or, maybe every season could be based on a new game, since so many come out these days.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: BP on December 31, 2005, 03:39:29 PM
So many come out these days? Oh, of course, a TV show based on Mario Party 7 would be a huge success!
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on December 31, 2005, 04:47:08 PM
Ja. That actually looked good.

Please tell me you're joking. Candy Kong and Funky Kong looked completly different from their DKC counterparts and they all had ugly duck bills.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: PaperMario on December 31, 2005, 09:18:21 PM
It's better if they do a new anime (or cartoon) film!
It' s impossible, but it would be more beautiful doing a Mario animation film with the collaboration of Disney and Nintendo! I think it would be a SUCCESS!!!!



I would've liked a Super Mario Brothers Super Show movie ( with more action and a little less childishness ) more than the live action movie we were given...
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Jman on January 01, 2006, 12:42:01 AM
Or make an animated movie and show it on TV the night before the cartoon's launch.  I plan to do that with my movie if I ever get it off the ground.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: CrzyFlmngMnkyHead on January 02, 2006, 07:57:34 PM
So far, FOX hasn't said anything about a Super Mario Bros. anime or cartoon (anime would be better, just hope the characters don't speak Japanesse ;- )). It would be nice if there was. If you want to watch an episode of the 'old' Mario cartoon, go to http://dvd.search.ebay.com/mario_DVD_W0QQsacatZ617. They have TONS of Mario cartoons.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Sup-edMad-io on January 05, 2006, 01:11:13 PM
I guess you're all right how 4Kids Entertainment ruins the anime of video game characters.  I mean, Pikachu's okay since he wasn't changed much, but everyone else in the Pokemon show are bad characters, from the annoying "Oym Ash, Oym going to be a Pokemon Master!" to Team Rocket's god-awfully annoying motto: "Prepare for trouble/make it double," and so did and so did.  I haven't seen much at all of "Kirby Right Back at ya!", but i guess it would be a bad idea to sell the Mario rights to 4Kids, not just because they won't allow Charles Martinet to do the voice, but also they might make worse (and very much like Team Rocket) Bowser's psychological issues about getting Peach, who he can never get.  But he's such a bumbling idiot (and not so evil anymore!) that he refuses to understand.  Kids who watch TV are not going to want a stupid psychological drama anymore than video game buyers do.  That's basically what the Super Mario Bros. series is today when it comes to Bowser.  Sure, Bowser is supposed to be the villain, but he's not much of a villain anymore, he's more of a romantic loser.  Also, when he framed Mario for trashing Delfino Island, he was only hurting himself and Bowser Jr., not Mario or Peach.  Bowser Jr. should be ashamed to have such an idiot for a father!  If they do a Mario cartoon or even another game, they should find out what happened to Bowser's real wife (and Bowser Jr.'s real mother).  I really want this stupid psychological travesty to end.  Alas, we can't stop the makers of the video game, since they're all full-of-baloney.  But video games are supposed to be fun games, and sometimes battles between good-and-evil.  But that's what the Mario games should be, but isn't anymore.  And it's not fun anymore.  But, to quote  Mario, "I'm-a giver up-a."
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: BP on January 05, 2006, 02:33:05 PM
That's another point--if they made a new cartoon, every episode would have Bowser & Bowser Jr. I hate Bowser Jr. His voice gets on my nerves. Of course, they probably wouldn't use his regular one, but that would probably make it more annoying. Anyway, why does it have to be anime? Mario doesn't have a pointy nose, and if he has huge eyes it would give me nightmares. I think if they were going to make a Mario carton, the best way to go is 3D animation. The games are already 3D, so they can in theory duplicate the models of Mario, Luigi, Yoshi, Peach, Bowser, and some other stuff like Bob-Ombs, Mushrooms, and other stuff from SSBM. But... an SMS 'toon would suck.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Yoshi55 on January 06, 2006, 06:19:15 PM
So far, FOX hasn't said anything about a Super Mario Bros. anime or cartoon (anime would be better, just hope the characters don't speak Japanesse ;- )). It would be nice if there was. If you want to watch an episode of the 'old' Mario cartoon, go to http://dvd.search.ebay.com/mario_DVD_W0QQsacatZ617. They have TONS of Mario cartoons.


NO ANIME!!!!!!!!!!! Anime is too quirky. And I hate anime.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on January 07, 2006, 01:24:20 AM
And how exactly is it 4kids fault that Ash and co haven't changed much since the begininng? They don't create the show, they only localize it. Besides, most of the edits they make to Pokemon are very small and unoticable. But if it makes you feel any better, Pokemon isn't being dubbed by 4kids next year further digging their grave and making anime fans everywhere wetting their pants.

Besides, If you don't find Mario games fun anymore due to Bowsers attraction to Peach, well I really can't help you there.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Ultima Shadow on January 07, 2006, 01:28:19 AM
I can imagine Bowser and Bowser Jr. being like Team Rocket... that's why I hate the TV show so much. I watch it occasionally, but then realise how stupid Team Rocket is. >:(
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: BP on January 07, 2006, 01:29:19 AM
When was the last time Bowser kidnapped Peach other than SMS or a remake anyway? Paper Mario?
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Super Caterina! on January 07, 2006, 02:18:10 AM
In Paper Mario 2 Bowser and Kammy were like Team Rocket....

It's strange and stupid that the Team Rocket of the Pokemon cartoon always meet Ash and Co.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Ultima Shadow on January 07, 2006, 02:21:31 AM
Team Rocket would be funny if they appeared less often and got some powerful Pokemon.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Yoshi55 on January 07, 2006, 10:11:25 AM
I can imagine Bowser and Bowser Jr. being like Team Rocket... that's why I hate the TV show so much. I watch it occasionally, but then realise how stupid Team Rocket is. >:(

No Bowser Jr. !!!!!!!!! Noone likes him anyway, so the ratings will plummit.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: BP on January 07, 2006, 02:46:20 PM
I just wouldn't be able to stand his freaking voice. PMTTYD would be the best game to turn into a show, if they were going to base it on a game. Oh... but you can guarantee one of the partners' voices would get annoying, candidates being Flurrie or Ms. Mowz... You'd get to hear Mario's voice when Doopliss takes over your body, too, with the little bit of distortion. Agh, thinking of it's weird though. It seems as if they might actually make one sometime soon, just because of this topic.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Ultima Shadow on January 07, 2006, 10:59:28 PM
I'd like a cartoon series based on Mario and Luigi: Superstar Saga.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Game Over on January 07, 2006, 11:11:43 PM
Yes, so far the new video game cartoons have been great. Sonic X and the Kirby one were awesome.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Nintendo Maximus on March 20, 2006, 01:28:02 PM
I still say that if Mario ever gets a new cartoon, DiC should be left out of it. They probably think the Princess is still regularly called Princess Toadstool. Besides, given that Mario was created in Japan to start with, why shouldn't he be done as an anime? "Inspector Gadget" and "Heathcliff" were animated in Japan, and they're not Japanese creations.
And in reply to Mr. Wiggles' DKCTV-bashing comment - I totally disagree. The "Donkey Kong Country" cartoon was a far better video game cartoon than "The Super Mario Bros. Super Show" if you ask me.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Kojinka on March 20, 2006, 05:08:25 PM
If a new Mario cartoon was to be made, I'd watch it out of the curiosity of how the characters get depicted.  Whatever company gets the rights, if a new Mario cartoon/anime is ever made, hopefully lets Charles Martinet be the voice of Mario.  I don't want DiC getting the rights. (they probably don't even know that only in Japan is Bowser still known as Koopa).  And the original seven Koopa Kids should have their original game names.  Ludwig, Wendy, Lemmy, Iggy, Roy, Morton, and Larry.

I still love the Pokemon anime, but only early seasons.  The newer seasons are too repetetive.  I loved Team Rocket's humor.

While the new Sonic cartoon is decent, I liked the old one a lot better.  I refer the name Robotnik over Eggman.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Teh Geno on March 20, 2006, 06:34:59 PM
Personally, I despise DiC and 4Kids, but CN and Nick are better.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Jman on March 20, 2006, 07:11:28 PM
I just finished watching an old episode of the Mario Bros. 3 cartoon.  I tell you. the plot and animation weren't much, but the fact that they used all sound effects from the game makes it worthwhile to watch.  See, if they could keep all that and animate it better, while improving the plot, that could be a successful cartoon.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: BP on March 20, 2006, 07:19:31 PM
Nick is great, an SMB cartoon would be best over there, seeing as CN seems to be Adult Swim all day now. Oh well. Most of the new Nick shows suck... FOP seems to still be popular, maybe more popular than SpongeBob (I'm personally not a FOP fan). I usually only turn my TV to cable to watch Invader Zim nowadays, I'm usually online & playing Nintendo.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Kojinka on March 20, 2006, 07:57:51 PM
I remember watching an episode of the SMB3 cartoon.  The animation was so horrible that Luigi was colored RED in one part! :P
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: PaperLuigi on March 20, 2006, 08:30:00 PM
It was the episode where Mario became some kind of giant ninja, right? Luigi was in the bird cage and was red! That show was crappy.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Kojinka on March 21, 2006, 10:12:59 AM
Yes.  I found a DVD with that ep in a cereal box.  I still laugh at that glaring mistake.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Nintendo Maximus on March 27, 2006, 10:28:01 PM
You may be right when you say that the animation got even worse after the first series, but if you ask me, Adventures of SMB3 and SMW were much better than the Super Show in terms of being true to the games. (I'm not sure if the writing was any better, though, considering that "The Ugly Mermaid" is probably one of the stupidest episodes they ever did.) I mean, c'mon, the Super Show had the gang doing out-of-place movie parodies for no apparent reason! (Ironically, the episode that's just been mentioned was a "Ninja Turtles" riff.) It's enough to make me think the writers had Super Mario confused with Bugs Bunny. (In fact, the episode "Koopa Klaus" has the good guys arriving by way of burrowing and emerging from underground, similar to Bugs.)
Speaking of the Super Show, it's getting a DVD set tomorrow that features the first 24 episodes (in production order, that is). I probably won't be getting it, though, because they most likely still haven't bothered bringing the songs back to the action sequences. (And this is coming from the same company that released "Heathcliff" the way it originally aired.) Amazingly, I haven't seen a single mention of the set on this side save for this forum.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on March 28, 2006, 11:42:11 PM
I'm not even sure if Charles Martinet would be able to maintain that high pitched voice through day long voice acting sessions. I mean, he does it in the Nintendo studios but it's usually little phrases and not long sentences of dialog.

Nickelodeon is a shell of it's former self now. The glory days are gone for them. I really can't imagine a Mario cartoon airing on little Viacom. As for CN, I'm trying real hard but I don't understand what makes BP say it's all Adult Swim now. It's more like half the network is AS. Besides, CN is also a shell of it's former self. They've sent every cartoon made before 1999 to Boomerang, they rerun the same 5 cartoons all day, they reduced the Cartoon Cartoon show to 3 pm, and sunk to new lows by airing Live-Action movies for ratings purposes. They also seem to have a personnel vendetta against quality (as evident in the canceling of Megas XLR, Samurai Jack, Teen Titans and now JLU). Right now, more Adult Swim is better since it 1) has quality programming 2) gets better ratings and 3)makes up for a great network slowly killing itself to please corporate suits.

Wow, I really needed to get that off my chest. Carry on.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Ultima Shadow on March 29, 2006, 12:10:56 AM
Megas XLR, JLU, Teen Titans and Samurai Jack... all gone? Ouch... we still have these programs here. Hopefully, this isn't a sign of CN Australia's future.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Kojinka on March 29, 2006, 07:02:35 AM
It's times like that I wish I still had Boomerang on my satellite.  Almost all of the good cartoons were made in the 20th century.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: G-Dawg on March 29, 2006, 08:01:04 PM
Should there be a new one? Have I missed something, when has there ever been a Mario cartoon?  I mean I think it would be cool, but has there been one that I have missed?
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: NintendoExpert89 on April 05, 2006, 04:25:52 PM
If they make a new cartoon, they shouldn't add any of their own 0original characters, like what they butchered the SMW cartoon with. I absolutely hated those butt-ugly cave kids that did nothing but stare directly at the screen.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Jman on April 07, 2006, 05:02:27 PM
I agree with MW.  I remember the glory days of both of those networks.  Thankfully, I have Boomerang so I can relive the greatest cartoons ever made.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on April 07, 2006, 11:12:16 PM
Should there be a new one? Have I missed something, when has there ever been a Mario cartoon?  I mean I think it would be cool, but has there been one that I have missed?

Yeah, you missed about 3 of them by about ten years.

I'd have to agree with Nintendo Maximus on no original characters. I've seen quite enough VG cartoons where original characters bring down the quality of the show. Plus, they usually fill a role that can already be filled by an existing character.

Also I am envious of Jman and Ultima Shadow who have access to the awesome classics. I mean, I don't have Boomerang but I'd be willing to pay 20 extra bucks for it if it means I can watch the Batman/Superman adventures again.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Ultima Shadow on April 07, 2006, 11:56:09 PM
Yeah, but all these other shows are flooding Cartoon Network, like Camp Lazlo and Hi Hi Puffy AmiYumi. AGH!

As for a Mario cartoon, I'd only watch it if it had good storylines aimed at slightly higher age groups. That's one of the main reasons I dislike the Pokemon anime.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: G-Dawg on April 09, 2006, 04:58:45 PM
Thank you Mr. Wiggles for the bad news. :(
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Kojinka on April 10, 2006, 05:59:49 AM
I used to have Boomerang, and there are times I wish I still had it.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Jodan007 on September 12, 2007, 09:45:52 PM
I'm actually planning to one day make a Mario Bros. cartoon. I'm not gonna lie...I'm still hammering out many details, but it should please many people in different ways.

This is gonna be long, but bear with me. I have been working on it and it gets me excited to talk about it.

I haven't decided on a true title, but I'm considering just "Adventures of the Super Mario Bros."

It would be based more on the games than the previous cartoons.

The premise of the show would be about our two favorite plumbers from Brooklyn finding a big green pipe in their backyard, accidentally falling in, and coming out in a completely different world known as the Mushroom Kingdom.

I plan for it to have a lot of episodes with original storylines. However, there will also be groups of episodes joined by one storyline. These groups will be known as "Chapters" in the entire storyline of the show. Practically all of these will be based on the games. (For example, the "Super Mario Bros." chapter will take place from the first episode (where Mario and Luigi discover the Mushroom Kingdom) to the episode where they rescue Princess Peach.)

I plan for the show to be aimed at a target audience of about 7 or so years or older. It would probably have animation similar to Teen Titans (Western style animation with occasional Anime tidbits). The show will also be more action oriented and more violent than previous stuff. (Kinda like a toned down Dragonball Z)

By just existing in the Mushroom Kingdom, Mario and Luigi will gain special powers. Mario will get enhanced strength and the famous ability to shoot fire from his hands. Luigi will gain enhanced leg strength, enabling him to run faster and jump higher. However, they lose these powers whenever they return to Brooklyn.

And did I mention characters!? Since it will be based heavily on the games, it will probably be host to a ton of the already existing characters.

For example, just to name the main ones, we have Mario (the only man who will stare a fire breathing monster right in the eye if an innocent princess is involved), Luigi (just as much determination as his brother...until he gets a good look at what all the toads are afraid of), Peach (the kind ruler of the Mushroom Kingdom who seems to also have an eye for heroic plumbers), Daisy (tomboyish, sassy, quick to anger, and the only princess that carries a baseball bat wherever she goes), and Bowser (the ruler of the Koopa Kingdom with a soft spot for Peach).

I also wish to include Bowser Jr. as a character. Now before I get attacked by Jr. haters, let me say that I will also include some certain other characters...7 certain other characters...give up?? (Dramatic pause) THE KOOPALINGS!!!

There will also be many others, as well as very few original characters of mine. One being the Goomba Commander (the overly confident (but still a shrimp) head of Bowser's goomba army. An orange goomba with a grey gladiator helmet that makes him look like a crushed Marvin the Martian when he gets stomped on.)

Here is a list of voice actors that I think will do good. If the actor's name has a (?) next to it, it means that I'm thinking about it. I haven't even decided on some.

Mario: Jeff Bennett
Luigi: (I could try to do his voice in a slight Bruce Campbell-esque style)
Peach: Hynden Walch (?) (Starfire's voice actor on Teen Titans)
Daisy: Tara Strong
Bowser: (I practice his voice a lot. Hope I could voice him.)
Kamek: Rodger Bumpass (Squidward's voice actor on SpongeBob SquarePants)
General Guy: John DiMaggio(?) Maybe, Maybe not.
Goomba Commander: Patrick Warburton
Wario: (My best friend can do a good Wario voice...but if not him...) Jim Cummings (?)
Waluigi: Jim Cummings (?)
Mona: Ashley Johnson (Terra's voice actor on Teen Titans)
Ashley: Tara Strong
Red: Undecided
Jimmy T.: Kevin Michael Richardson
Bowser Jr.: Tara Strong
Larry Koopa: Undecided
Wendy O. Koopa: (Possibly her (Kootie Pie's) voice actor from the previous shows)
Iggy Koopa: Undecided (I want to voice him)
Lemmy Koopa: Undecided (I want to voice him. Possibly in a hippie accent(?))
Morton Koopa Jr.: Jason Marsden(?) or Billy West(?)
Roy Koopa: (Possibly his (Bully's) voice actor from the previous shows)
Ludwig Von Koopa: Will Friedle
Yoshi: (Frank Welker might be good)

These are just a fraction of all my ideas. I would like to hear what other people think. Would it be worth watching or is it junk. I only have my own opinion, my best friend's, and possibly one other person's. I could also use suggestions or constructive criticism.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Chupperson Weird on September 13, 2007, 10:55:00 AM
Even though there were a lot of words in that post, this really really feels like a bump.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Unlimited Lumpia on September 13, 2007, 01:01:32 PM
Ah, a new Mario cartoon would pretty cool!

I like that plan Jordan, though maybe not the Teen Titans-esque part of it.. I never really liked how Teen Titans tried so hard to look anime when clearly it wasn't.

If it were done in the Mario&Luigi Superstar Saga style on the other hand, I'd be all for it. :)
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Jodan007 on September 13, 2007, 02:36:32 PM
Ah, a new Mario cartoon would pretty cool!

I like that plan Jordan, though maybe not the Teen Titans-esque part of it.. I never really liked how Teen Titans tried so hard to look anime when clearly it wasn't.

If it were done in the Mario&Luigi Superstar Saga style on the other hand, I'd be all for it. :)

I have actually planned for the character designs to reflect the Mario & Luigi style.

Don't worry. It wouldn't be much like Teen Titans (I just needed something to compare it to). You could imagine a Western animation style similar to Teen Titans, but with WAY less anime elements. The most you could expect to see would be my idea for Luigi's scared/freaked out look: tiny pupils and a mouth so wide open it is almost as big as his head (Wellll...that and Daisy pulling a baseball bat out of hammerspace). Other than that, anime elements would be kept to a bare minimal.

By the way, it's not Jordan. I made my name by combining parts of my first and middle name (Joseph Daniel Navarrete). Jo + Dan = Jodan. I also thought adding 007 sounded cool. I'm not mad or anything...I just thought I'd point that out.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Area 64 on September 13, 2007, 03:06:40 PM
How will the Warioware characters fit into this?
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: PaperLuigi on September 13, 2007, 03:32:25 PM
I dunno, it seems like a pretty good idea to me. I'd like to see a new Mario cartoon.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Jodan007 on September 13, 2007, 04:32:37 PM
How will the Warioware characters fit into this?

I'm thinking of taking it slowly.

Wario and Waluigi will eventually appear as two Brooklyn plumbers who have saved up enough money to accomplish a childhood dream: building a castle. But they don't know where to build it. It is only after they witness the Marios going down the warp pipe that they follow them and decide to build it in the Mushroom Kingdom. (In case you were wondering, Wario and Waluigi will mainly be the same as we know them: Vain, Greedy, and Stupid. Also, poor Waluigi won't get any powers, but Wario will get his famous Herculean strength)

(Note: The WarioWare characters will mainly interact with Wario, but will occasionally interact with the Mario characters from time to time)

Mona is a girl living alone in Brooklyn with a job at Mona Pizza. However, the money's not making much of a difference. As a result, she loses her apartment. However, upon learning this, Wario does probably the only nice thing in his life. He lets her live with him in his castle in the Mushroom Kingdom. (Mona will play the role of the straight man(girl?) to Wario and Waluigi. Also, for the Wario/Mona shippers, I will imply a relation between them. Other than that, she will mostly be the same)

Jimmy T. will also be from Brooklyn. However, he becomes good friends with the Wario gang and ends up going to the Mushroom Kingdom from time to time. There will be no major changes to his character.

The other WarioWare characters will be Mushroom Kingdom inhabitants.

Ashley and Red will mostly stay the same. However, I will expand upon Ashley's personality a bit. She will become a little more likable and will smile more often (Don't get angry so soon. When Ashley smiles, things happen). I also wish to add a little more humor to her character by making her addicted to chocolate. (I pity the fool who tries to eat Ashley's candy bar)

Dr. Crygor, Mike, Dribble, Spitz, Orbulon, Kat, and Ana will be exactly the same as we know them. Once I know a little more about her, I will consider adding Penny to the bunch. (I only own WarioWare: Touched. I have never played any other WarioWare games. I want to though...I especially want Smooth Moves to add to my small Wii collection)

I'm not sure if Young Cricket should be in there. However, since I have yet to even play Smooth Moves, this is subject to change.

I'm also trying to figure if 9-Volt and 18-Volt should have a place too.

But for sure, Wario will eventually gain his alter-ego: Wario-Man!

Man...I forgot how much I had actually gone and planned. But anyway, I hope this sounds good.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: The Chef on September 13, 2007, 05:40:21 PM
You know, Jo. I once had an idea that was strikingly similar to yours, except that instead of a pipe in their yard, the Mario Bros. found a rainbow-colored portal in their basement. Said portal was actually based on the ones that appear after you beat all four clubs and receive Peach's invitation in Mario Golf for the GBC.  I always though that's how the Mushroom Kingdom was connected to the human world. The whole drainpipe theory stems from the old TV show. My idea was to base it almost directly on the games, with a lot of service to the fans.

Anyway, my idea was a bit more serialized, with each season being a "saga" based on a "big" Mario game. I was thinking there'd be specials and movie events for some of the bigger or more intriguing moments in Mario history, like some sort of Mario Kart special, or a three-part episode/telemovie based on Super Mario 64 or something. In addition, I thought maybe Wario could appear in a few episodes of the series and later get his own spin-off series which goes to WarioWare.

I was also thinking of maybe having a theatrical film based on Yoshi's Island, that acts as a prelude to the entire series. I also thought such a film should be a major creative endeavor, like having striking and imaginative art direction based on the game's graphics and having little to no dialog except for what Kamek says from time to time. I got the idea when I was playing Yoshi Touch and Go, and thought the calming music during the Baby Mario segments would make for a very Fantasia-esque animated opening sequence to a Yoshi's Island based movie.

And about a year ago, I spoke of an idea for some sort of anime series that shows how Mario and Luigi became who they are. It was called "Super Mario: Plumbing Academy" and was sort of similar in concept to Naruto or the US cartoon Xiaolin Showdown, almost a parody of it. The premise of the show was to have a young Mario and Luigi being sent off by their father to an academy for aspiring plumbers, except that said academy would turn out to hide a great many fantastic secrets. I guess the show would have to have some original characters, like fellow plumbing students and teachers, each of which with their on unique quirks (sorta like Mucha Lucha, if you've ever seen it). Also appearing would be Wario, the resident bully who Mario stands up to, and a certain Pauline, who Mario develops an affection for. Maybe Stanley would make a cameo as a student in a neighboring exterminator academy. Later on in the series, Mario and Luigi would discover an army of monstrous turtles building what appears to be an advanced sewage network underneath the school using some sort of bright green/multicolored metal, and find out that they're from some faraway kingdom in another dimension that was found long ago by their great grandfather, who was the cause of Warp Pipe technology being developed.  That was about as far as I got with that idea.

Other than these, I thought that maybe there could be a resurgence of cartoons based on Nintendo properties (we already got Pokemon, Donkey Kong Country, Kirby and F-Zero GP Legend) such as Zelda and Metroid and later there'd be a Justice League-style crossover cartoon rooted after Smash Bros.

I'm pathetic, aren't I? XP
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Jodan007 on September 13, 2007, 06:16:18 PM
Chef, you are not pathetic. In fact, I'd say we are sailing in the same boat.

Like I said, I have only put up a fraction of my ideas. Many of them are similar to yours. Many of the episodes in my idea will be either original plots or clusters of episodes based on games (Such as Super Mario Bros., Super Mario Sunshine, Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door, Super Paper Mario, etc).

Like you, I am also thinking of including specials and movies. The Mario Kart special that I had in mind would involve someone making a mechanical racecar that has the driving skills worthy of 100 gold trophies. Unfortunately it has an extra feature: a huge bomb that will go off if it finishes first in an upcoming race. This would force the good guys to aim for first place in order to prevent harm from coming to the spectators. However, the badder racers (Such as Bowser and Wario) cheat by using weapons and such (that ought to add a whole new degree of difficulty).

I also do plan to include Pauline. She will be Mario's old girlfriend from Brooklyn. This would cause a big set of problems for Mario's relationship with Peach because even though he and Pauline are staying friends, they act like they're engaged or something.

One thing I came up with was taking Non-Canon characters and giving them a place. My best one is my idea for Metal Mario. He will be a being from another planet entirely. After landing like a meteor, he decides to go around and battle literally anybody to show off how powerful he is. His character could be compared to Doomsday (The DC character famous for killing Superman). He can give even Bowser a punch that could send him across his castle and he can take as much as he recieves. His only weaknesses seem to be his mind (he always acts and rarely thinks) and his weight (throw him in a lake and he'll sink to the bottom). He will get his name from the residents of the Mushroom Kingdom because he just happens to look almost exactly like Mario.

You have some good ideas too. You wouldn't happen to have anymore, would you? They sound great!
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: The Chef on September 13, 2007, 06:40:09 PM
Well... my Mario Kart special was almost entirely based around Hanna Barbera's Wacky Races. There's be a big cast of characters, and the guys like Wario and Bowser would be the big cheaters, even though weapons like shells are perfectly legal in the circuit, and it would probably end with a shocker, like the trophy being given to this one little Goomba that's only seen from time to time, simply driving along on his own accord, without even trying to stop the other racers, or something like that.

I once thought up a big special that parodies the DC universe. It was the Death of Superman, and it dealt with Mario being killed, except nobody knows how. Those close to him still believe that he's alive, and suddenly four other characters show up claiming to be Mario... Metal Mario (an evil creature from another world, sorta like your idea), Baby Mario(Mario's past self, who showed up in the future by accident), Dr. Mario(an enhanced clone of Mario with advanced intelligence) and Shadow Mario (a being that was actually separated from Mario's body and symbolizes his dark side). If anything, this would make a good conclusion to the series.

I was thinking of how Mario Party could be incorporated into the series as a special, and I figured they could be some type of anniversary episodes. I remembered how when I got the first Mario Party, it managed to cram so much Mario stuff into game that almost could've been a crossover platformer featuring the best of the best (Super Mario Forever). That would be the idea behind it. A retrospective on all the episodes that came before it.

I can't think of many more ideas now, but I will say that I thought the main series should be begin with a movie-length special that's mostly based on the old "Great Mission to Rescue Princess Peach" movie from Japan. Some things would have to changed around to accommodate my ideas and the current portrayal of the series, though.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Jman on September 14, 2007, 09:27:34 AM
Oh man, I've seen Wacky Races before.  That would have been awesome!  Speaking of a movie pilot, I'm actually writing one for the cartoon I've been doing.  Ah, the days of movie pilots were great, huh?  Anyone remember the pilots for Ducktales and Talespin?

Anyway, I like a lot of those ideas, TC.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Kojinka on September 14, 2007, 11:40:33 AM
When I had Boomerang, I liked watching Wacky Races, so when I saw Waluigi for the first time, he imediately reminded me of Dick Dastardly.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Trainman on September 14, 2007, 12:37:20 PM
Well, if they made a new one, I'd like to see it go quite a bit more in depth than the old cartoons. While the old ones had some clever music that I love, and made a good attempt at not going off the wall, the weird worlds and human characters kinda... just made it weird. I didn't like the bland scenery and how they splashed the environment in... a computer animated cartoon would be pretty awesome... as long as they didn't make it look like Mario Party 4 through 6. I can't stand their solid blank colors of their clothes, etc. I'd LOVE if they made all Mario games look as good Brawl. There, Mario has detail in everything from the stitching on his hat, to the seams and logo on his overalls. I'd be mad if they just threw the little one-seam-down-the-pantleg thing and put a light blue hue for his overalls. If they made it, I'd want landscape, a horizon, clouds, and blocks floating everywhere, and actually have a Mario-esque plot rather than helping random humanoid folks out. Well, also, I'd want to focus on speech and make some down-to-earth dialogue rather than cheesy exclamations that totally relied on alliteration (although some were creative). Oh, and I kind of hate it when characters move their heads up and down when they speak such as old Scooby Doo episodes. I guess they're just trying to let kids know who's talking, but it still bothers me.

They'd have to make up some creative music and finally fix Mario's current color scheme, hopefully voice, and that they made him a food fetished fat dude with an incorrect mustache. Food fetished fat dude.... the alliteration phrases from my SMB:SS DVD's are getting to me!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: The Chef on September 14, 2007, 01:24:59 PM
Well... it was 1989. Now it's 2007 and animation has other problems that need attending.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Trainman on September 17, 2007, 06:24:37 PM
Correction for what I think it should look like. If you take a look at the Mario & Sonic trailer, that is EXACTLY how I picture ALL Mario games should look like (except Paper Mario and the like, of course duh), but they all look like they're all living and actually doing something purposeful rather than just.... standing around like morons. I picture M&S as primary examples, but I loved the Power Tennis & Baseball intros because they had life, and I love that!
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: The Chef on September 17, 2007, 06:40:32 PM
The problem is that all of the official artwork for the game looks dull and lifeless. It also has other problems, which I think are summed up pretty well right here (http://spacepope4u.blogspot.com/2007/02/kiddie-problem.html)
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Unlimited Lumpia on September 20, 2007, 11:42:17 AM
Hmm. That was a pretty interesting read, Chef.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Kimimaru on September 23, 2007, 02:05:01 PM
Yes, I believe there should be a new Mario cartoon. They already made a new Sonic cartoon.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: Kojinka on September 23, 2007, 06:30:53 PM
They already made a new Sonic cartoon.
Which got massacred by 4Kids.
Title: Re: Should there be a new Mario cartoon?
Post by: silverstarman on September 23, 2007, 07:27:37 PM
No...Just, no...