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Miscellaneous => Forum Games => Topic started by: Luigison on October 07, 2011, 03:08:30 PM
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The chorus of "Signs" doesn't contain the word "there's".
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Corporations are necessary for the existence of our country.
Total control of our political system by those corporations, however, is not.
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Exactly. Those protests wouldn't be happening if corporations didn't have a stranglehold on governments around the world.
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The chorus of "Signs" doesn't contain the word "there's".
Facepalm. Copy/paste has failed me again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gklM1AiZX0s <-- Language warning for the song, not the incorrect lyrics posted.
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You are aware that Tesla's version isn't the original, right? Just making sure.
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Yes. I own the original and two Tesla versions, but prefer the Tesla version that's not edited for radio. I like how Tesla used a play on the original bands name for their cover.
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How is this related to forum games?
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How is this related to forum games?
It's not, but it's also not for the dinner table and I thought it might devolve into a posting of unrelated signs/images. Looking black, I should have made a better OP and posted it in General Chat.
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Heh. http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-october-5-2011/parks-and-demonstration?xrs=share_copy <-- For those that missed it.
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Stay classy humanity.
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You know, if you can afford pink hair dye and cell phones and cameras and computers and trendy hipster messenger bags and a New York City apartment, you're probably part of the richest 5% of the world (or at least, in the case of the unemployed college students at these protests, their parents are).
I think the Other 95% would be having some pretty wicked protests of their own about how much we're not helping them if they weren't so busy dying of malaria.
Just sayin' (http://www.live58.org/).
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The existence of poverty elsewhere doesn't mean we shouldn't fight it in America though.
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The existence of poverty elsewhere doesn't mean we shouldn't fight it in America though.
True. Including people who own iPads seems to be kinda stretching the definition of "poverty," though. There are a lot of Americans who are way below the "drive my mom's car out to Times Square on the weekend to do a hipster protest wearing a Guy Fawkes replica mask and then tweet about it" level.
Also, just to sway this fully into NatDT territory:
Megacorporations do indeed have too much sway over the government. The way to fix this is not for the politicians who are in the pockets of the megacorporations to make more regulations.
A few weeks ago, one prominent politician proposed eliminating all corporate income tax, as well as all corporate tax credits/bailouts/etc. Raising corporate income tax doesn't punish the big corporations. GE made $14 billion in taxable income last year, and paid no taxes, actually getting back about $3 billion from the government. After all the political favors are said and done, most megacorporations pay little, nothing, or less than nothing in corporate income tax (In completely unrelated news, the CEO of GE, Jeff Immelt, is one of Obama's top economic advisors). It's the small and medium sized businesses (which create 70% of the jobs in the U.S.), who can't afford their own teams of lobbyists, who have to pay the full tax. If all corporate income tax and all corporate welfare could be eliminated totally and simultaneously, estimates show that it would at least pay for itself (i.e., we currently pay out at least as much to corporations as we take in from them), and the boost in job creation from small and medium businesses having more cash on hand would increase revenue from income and payroll taxes over time. It would also be a way to punish megacorporations without doing it in an unfair or vindictive way.
One would be hard pressed to find a single protester out there who would ever consider supporting the politician who proposed that (http://conservatives4palin.com/2011/09/transcript-of-governor-palins-september-3rd-speech-in-indianola-iowa.html). Some of them are even still hanging on to their support of the one who has received more money from Wall Street than any U.S. politician in the last 20 years (http://dailycaller.com/2011/10/10/obama-attacks-banks-while-raking-in-wall-street-dough/).
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The site's called "Conservatives4Palin." I'm more than a little skeptical of that article.
Not that I'm throwing my weight behind Obama; at the moment I'm suspending judgment.
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The site's called "Conservatives4Palin." I'm more than a little skeptical of that article.
It's a transcript of a speech, though.
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I agree with the main sign in this image, but if the sign the guy in the orange shirt is holding is about 1%ers or the government creating jobs, I'm afraid he is sadly mistaken.
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What CrossEyed says is correct.
This is the liberal version of the teaparties. Disorganized and no understand of what the hell is happening. But worst of all COMMIES AND SOCIALISTS WANT FREE MONEY.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50rpJ7EQWuI.
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CrossEyed's post needed a counter I guess. I think both videos are hilarious in a bad way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUPMjC9mq5Y
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http://board.gscentral.org/showthread.php/52793-Wallstreet-riots-becoming-more-widespread...
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I'm as liberal as they come, but I ****ing hate ****** bags who wear Che Guevara shirts. That shirt was probably made in a Malaysian sweatshop. >:(
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It should take you about five seconds on Google to figure out that he's totally the right guy to idolize, anyway. Well, maybe ten seconds.
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I like the one on The Onion that's a shirt of Che Guevara wearing a Che Guevara shirt.
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CrossEyed is 100% correct.
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OH NO HE DIHINT!
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Hawaii is outside the United States?
Attorney, professor, US Senator, and President aren't "real jobs"? Would your mum say, "Yes Billy, I know you're the President of the United States, but when are you going to get a REAL job?"
The rest of the sign applies to any modern President.
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Sorry for the d-post, but...
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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/10/29/1031198/-PROOF-the-TEABAGGERS-are-RACIST,-VIOLENT,-and-DISGUSTING
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Ha ha. Awesome: http://xaxor.com/funny-pics/34582-funny-occupy-sesame-street.html
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Something inside of me churns a little when I see recently-deceased peoples' names incorporated into a cheesy political protest.
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Not too Keane on it, eh?
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That largely amuses me because of my lifelong fascination with the fact that Legos are overpriced as hell.
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Legos
Point invalidated.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4O6-8tnJd3Y
Also this (http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-ways-we-ruined-occupy-wall-street-generation/) (some swears).
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Point invalidated.
Is putting a Swedish portmanteaux in all-caps really that important?
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Not as important as not pluralizing it.
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How the hell am I supposed to pluralize it?
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Legoes
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How the hell am I supposed to pluralize it?
It's never pluralized.
"LEGO is overpriced as hell."
"I love playing with LEGO."
"Check out my LEGO, *****!"
"I can never find that one god[darn]ed LEGO piece when I need it."
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"LEGO is overpriced as hell."
"I love playing with LEGO."
Still wrong, actually. "LEGO® sets are overpriced as hell." "I love playing with LEGO® products." Et cetera.
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I'm getting trolled here, aren't I.
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LD and CE are trolling, I'm just being really anal.
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Ah, well, fine. I just figured, you know...
>Thread about people protesting corporate influence
>Implying you should always refer to a children's toy by its trademarked name.
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Psh, you can keep your LEGO® sets, I'll stick with enhancing images in my Adobe® Photoshop® software.
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I am stuck on BAND-AID® brand, so germs don't stick on me!
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You nerds are all a bunch of corporate shills.
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I wish I could immediately believe he said that. I'm not saying he didn't; I've just seen more than enough falsely-attributed vague prophecies that people pull out of thin air and/or their ass when the political climate calls for it.
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You nerds are all a bunch of corporate shills.
I am not!
/me sips his Starbucks
I have something I want to say, but I don't want to get into this big debate..
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Say it and I swear we won't rip your opinion to shreds like the piece of crap that it is.
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Something I thought of today that seemed relevant to this thread:
Cutting politicians' salaries, an emotionally-appealing proposal often met with cheers, would make things worse. Running a campaign is basically a full-time job that pays you in negative dollars. You have to quit your job for several months, which already requires being relatively wealthy, and then you have to spend most of your campaign time doing fundraising. And then once you're in Congress, now you have to have two residences, one in Washington and one at home, which is expensive and complicated. And also you're still doing fundraising most of the time so you can be reelected.
The lower Congressional salaries go, the more true it will be that you have to be rich or be indebted to rich powerful friends to get into the government. The less money Congresspeople get from their salaries, the more willing they'll be to take money from lobbyists. And lobbyists are the root cause of what the Tea Party, the Occupiers, and everyone in general are ****eded off about. Big government, big business, fascism, communism, whatever you call it, it all comes from the symbiotic relationship between the permanent political class and the permanent wealthy class, and the more we try to cut the umbilical cord between the government and the politicians, the stronger their bond with big business will be.
If we want to get "normal people" in the government, then in addition to high Congressional salaries, we need a better, fairer form of public funding for campaigns. This would probably require a constitutional amendment, as this is definitely not an enumerated power of the federal government, and there would be some important First Amendment issues to work out and clarify (Does funding a candidate like Bachmann or Santorum violate the Establishment clause? Does taking my money to support a candidate I don't support violate my free speech and free exercise rights, particularly if an issue like abortion or gay marriage is involved?). We could at least start, though, by addressing the issue with Congresspeople having to keep two residences, by doing most Congress things through videoconferencing and only convening in person a few times a year for major legislation. This may also have fringe benefits, such as keeping representatives closer to their constituents, saving a little on DC's electric bill, making lobbyists' jobs harder by giving them 500 different places to go to, and maybe even getting reliable high-speed internet to places that wouldn't get it otherwise, which would help out the economy in general -- we really need to get with the program on internet coverage compared to the rest of the world, and you have to admit, if the government hadn't propped up the telephone industry, there would be large swathes of the country that to this day would not have basic landline service, for the same reasons that in the 20 years I've lived at this address, the local cable company has refused to extend the network that they have about three miles down the road from us so we could get service from them (unless we pay the few thousand dollars it would cost to run the cable out ourselves).
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Say it and I swear we won't rip your opinion to shreds like the piece of crap that it is.
LOL
Ok, here goes..
We are all corporate shills. We wear clothes, eat food, live in homes and even work for corporations. A corporation probably made the computer you are playing on right now. Corporations are a big part of our lives..
.. I actually had a point for this..point, but I can't remember what it is now.
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Please read CrossEyed's post, you guys.
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"Tea Party and OWS Protest Side-By-Side Against Obama in San Francisco (http://pjmedia.com/zombie/2012/02/17/tea-party-and-ows-protest-side-by-side-against-obama-in-san-francisco/?singlepage=true)"
(read this)
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I wish I could immediately believe he said that. I'm not saying he didn't; I've just seen more than enough falsely-attributed vague prophecies that people pull out of thin air and/or their ass when the political climate calls for it.
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Occupy Fortune Street (http://killscreendaily.com/articles/essays/occupy-fortune-street/)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcQJIQmasdo.
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Good video, but what is the solution?
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I think the biggest part of the problem right now is polarization -- conservatives want everyone to be absolute real true pure conservatives, and liberals and moderates see the parts of the package they don't like and don't want anything to do with anything that could be considered Republican. And so whenever the tea party talks about big government having too much power, it has to also be about those dang liberal tree-huggers and queer Mexicans, and whenever the Starbucks party talks about big corporations having too much power, it has to also be about those evil Christians trying to outlaw my condoms and my Satanic Pokemon cards and my PBR.
This shouldn't be a partisan issue. Conservatives and liberals should be able to agree that corporatism and cronyism and lobbying are major problems that need to be dealt with. But we're so used to the tribalistic us vs. them mindset that we can't accept that. When we hear someone talking about it, we don't really listen to what they're saying -- we look at who they are, for the cues that tell us if they're in our clan or not. If we don't recognize the name and they don't have a letter after their name, we listen for the buzzwords. Klein exclusively uses examples from the Bush administration, so a conservative watching that video will very quickly tune her out as just another Bush-basher, and would also then criticize her delivery and stuttering and that part where she forgot which department she was going to mention ("See? She doesn't know what she's talking about!"); Palin in her Iowa speech back in September used examples from the Obama administration, so a liberal watching her speech would tune her out (a hypothetical liberal who hadn't already tuned her out years ago) as just another crazy folksy hillbilly who probably also wants to ban evolution. Both of them are talking about the same thing. And until the left, the right, the middle, the up, the down, and everyone else can recognize that politics is more complex than "People who agree with me on everything" and "People who are evil morons," we're never going to get anywhere.
How do we get there? Get as many people as possible to see as many things like this (http://visual.ly/lobbyists-how-we-run-washington) as possible. Avoid partisan language and generalizations as much as possible. Judge people -- both politicians and citizens -- not by how they identify but by how they act, and never presume that a label -- any label -- tells you everything you need to know about anyone. Keep an open mind. Be humble: insofar as you have a "side" in politics, look for the failings and hypocrisies of your own side first. Don't assume that everyone has an ulterior motive -- and don't harbor ulterior motives yourself.
And -- most of all -- use way too many dashes -- or two hyphens together if you're too lazy to key in actual dashes -- in your sentences.
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the last sign made me think of CrossEyed7.