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Title: The PROTOTYPE topic: Discuss all PRE-RELEASE video games here!
Post by: CrzyFlmngMnkyHead on March 19, 2006, 05:55:49 PM
First, watch this video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1299077812798464085&q=MARIO (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1299077812798464085&q=MARIO)

Differences:
A huge tan walking thing
Humans (look closely about 13 seconds into the video
Everything has been changed
Different Island

Also:
Green Yoshi (obvious) and Blue Yoshi (not so obvious) are acessable through AR codes. The blue Yoshi spits water.

EDIT: Since we're on the prerelease topic, I would also like to mention this (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5937388580061280870&q=mario+64+beta). And this (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2101095029013601800&q=mario+64+beta). And this (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4453476903262624596&q=mario+64+beta). And this (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1477708426272462663&q=mario+64+beta). And finally, this (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3801778997812871892&q=mario+64+beta). Notice Peach's Slide, the health meter, the strange Whomp's Fortress painting, and the penguins.
Title: Re: Many odd videos I found
Post by: yoshimastar on March 19, 2006, 06:12:19 PM
Hmm, don't see a lot of the pre finished games videos.

Find one for M64, then you got something really weird.
Title: Re: Many odd videos I found
Post by: BP on March 19, 2006, 06:26:25 PM
That's not Peach's slide, that's a slide hidden in Tall Tall Mountain in the final version.
Title: Re: Many odd videos I found
Post by: yoshimastar on March 19, 2006, 06:47:39 PM
I.... love.... you....
Title: Re: Many odd videos I found
Post by: dude677 on March 20, 2006, 02:36:16 PM
On the forth M64 video, that large ship and submarine level looks impressive. Why take it off, Nintendo?

Check this out, really cool Mario Kart 64 Shortcuts and Glitches. Intersting! (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1873963189874425485&q=mario+kart+64)
Title: Re: Many odd videos I found
Post by: MEGAߥTE on March 20, 2006, 02:59:58 PM
Thanks cantthinkofaname.  I'm actually working on a new site that covers this type of prerelease stuff.
Title: Re: Many odd videos I found
Post by: Suzaku on March 20, 2006, 03:38:35 PM
http://speeddemosarchive.com/MarioKart64.html
Here are some crazy Mario Kart 64 shortcuts, Dude677
Wow, those Mario 64 vids looked weird.
Edit - Ach! Sorry!
Title: Re: Many odd videos I found
Post by: dude677 on March 20, 2006, 03:42:07 PM
Ah...
Its dude677.
Don't worry, people always do it.
Anyway, cool.
Title: Re: Many odd videos I found
Post by: CrzyFlmngMnkyHead on March 20, 2006, 07:19:33 PM
Here (http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=mario+64+beta) are some more SM64 videos I found. Actually, it's some new videos along with some of the other videos posted above. Also, If you look closely at the SMS video above, you can see the giant thing spew goop. From that, we can infer that the original plot was to get rid of the thing insted of Shadow Mario.
Title: Re: Many odd videos I found
Post by: BP on March 20, 2006, 07:41:15 PM
I.... love.... you....
Um, seeing as you posted before me without this comment, you must be referring to me, in which case WTD??
Title: Re: Many odd videos I found
Post by: Bigluigifan1.0 on March 20, 2006, 09:13:13 PM
Haha, I just noticed that.
Title: Re: Many odd videos I found
Post by: CrzyFlmngMnkyHead on March 21, 2006, 07:18:07 PM
It's amazing what you find (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3244348300842323820&q=Super+Mario+64x4) on Google Video. A Super Mario 64 DS preview, with map changes. Also, notice the different background and the various pipes throughout the area. And the fact that you can go behind the castle.
Title: Re: Many odd videos I found
Post by: BP on March 21, 2006, 07:49:32 PM
Ypu can go behind the castle even in the original SM64. (I know what you're trying to say, the hill doesn't obscure the courtyard... There were screenshots on TMK showing these things.
Title: Re: Many odd videos I found
Post by: Glorb on April 08, 2006, 08:30:06 AM
You should look up "Don't Copy That Floppy" on GV. Ah, the wonders of the early-90's.

By the way, I noticed that I actually got Bird Person's signature immediately. Spooky.
Title: Re: Many odd videos I found
Post by: Luigison on April 08, 2006, 01:46:35 PM
Thanks cantthinkofaname.  This makes me want to play SMS again.  BTW, where'd you find the Action Replay codes you mentioned?  They're not here http://us.codejunkies.com/codes_show.asp?rf=0&c=US&cr=USD&cs=$&r=0&l=1&g=7340124&p=7 (http://us.codejunkies.com/codes_show.asp?rf=0&c=US&cr=USD&cs=$&r=0&l=1&g=7340124&p=7)  and the link from gamefaqs.com didn't work.
Title: Re: Many odd videos I found
Post by: Pt_Peach on April 08, 2006, 04:44:54 PM
LINK REMOVED BY PT_PEACH
Title: Re: Many odd videos I found
Post by: MEGAߥTE on April 12, 2006, 02:19:59 AM
I disagree, that content was totally unappropriate for this thread.

L'son, www.gscentral.org and its message board are the premiere source for Action Replay codes, particularly debug ones... unfortunately it seems to have problems staying online...
Title: Re: Many odd videos I found
Post by: Pt_Peach on April 12, 2006, 11:19:34 AM
Sorry. I removed it. I didn't know it would be labled inappropiate. Sorry Megabyte :(.
Title: Re: Many odd videos I found
Post by: Luigison on April 12, 2006, 11:38:49 AM
I think MEGAߥTE may have ment http://www.gscentral.org/
Title: Re: Many odd videos I found
Post by: MEGAߥTE on April 12, 2006, 11:44:33 AM
Yes, L'son, I did.  It used to be www.gscentral.com but I guess they moved.

pt_peach, by inappropriate, I meant that it had absolutely nothing to do with the topic of this thread.
Title: Re: Many odd videos I found
Post by: Pt_Peach on April 12, 2006, 12:00:56 PM
I just posted it because I though it was odd. No matter. End of discussion.
Title: Re: Many odd videos I found
Post by: Lizard Dude on April 12, 2006, 03:06:16 PM
The thread name has the unwritten implication that it means odd videos [of pre-release Mario games].
Title: Re: Many odd videos I found
Post by: Luigison on April 12, 2006, 03:13:21 PM
The thread name has the unwritten implication that it means odd videos [of pre-release Mario games].
I don't think the "[of pre-release Mario games]" is implied by the thread name, but rather by the forum, "General Mario Chat".
Title: Re: Many odd videos I found
Post by: Khold on April 12, 2006, 03:47:09 PM
I laughed so hard at that, pt_peach! XD XD XD You are one kool person!
Title: Re: Many odd videos I found
Post by: CrzyFlmngMnkyHead on April 12, 2006, 04:46:42 PM
(Back on topic) Since we're on prototype information and related, those of you may not know about the prototype Super Mario Bros. 2. Anyways, the prototype cartrage was sold on eBay for $350, and here are the differences:
1. Lamps, no potions in this version.
2. The player starts with 19 (?!?) lives.
3. The story behind the Sub-Con is different.
4. The bonus chance/ending screen is different.
5. The dungeon music is different.
http://www.planetnintendo.com/thewarpzone/smb_music.mp3 (http://www.planetnintendo.com/thewarpzone/smb_music.mp3)  < here is a sample of the old dungeon music. Notice that it sounds a lot like the underground theme for SMB3.

EDIT: I would also like to mention this: https://www.kaejae-worx.com/gallery/albums/Super-Mario-World-Beta/smw2.jpg
Title: Re: Many odd videos I found
Post by: Lizard Dude on April 12, 2006, 04:49:13 PM
That gets pretty phat near the end.
Title: Re: Many odd videos I found
Post by: G-Dawg on April 12, 2006, 07:00:18 PM
I don't have an exact clip, but there might be some on this website.
http://www.putfile.com/search.php (http://www.putfile.com/search.php) and type in Mario and Luigi in the search engine.
Title: Re: Many odd videos I found
Post by: CrzyFlmngMnkyHead on April 12, 2006, 07:36:34 PM
Found a screenshot featuring a Gold Big Bertha (or whatever you call it). This might just be a graphical glitch or something.

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Facmlm.overclocked.org%2Fhacks%2Fimages%2Fs3pik-05.png&hash=b56df7e9b38255ea2063beda6a73e4c3)
Title: Re: Many odd videos I found
Post by: BP on April 13, 2006, 12:15:18 AM
I don't have an exact clip, but there might be some on this website.
http://www.putfile.com/search.php (http://www.putfile.com/search.php) and type in Mario and Luigi in the search engine.
My! Aren't you informative! ;P
Well, I guess I'll contribute since I'm posting. Here's (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8663633986850904377&q=Paper+Mario&pl=true) a video of PMTTYD in its early stages. Most stuff looks the same, except the flight to the Door had some obstacles, there were apparently many more jump attacks, and Mario still made the "hop" noise from PM1 (see the very end).
Title: Re: Many odd videos I found
Post by: Toad on April 13, 2006, 12:38:36 AM
http://www.planetnintendo.com/thewarpzone/smb_music.mp3 (http://www.planetnintendo.com/thewarpzone/smb_music.mp3)  < here is a sample of the old dungeon music. Notice that it sounds a lot like the underground theme for SMB3.

EDIT: I would also like to mention this: https://www.kaejae-worx.com/gallery/albums/Super-Mario-World-Beta/smw2.jpg

That sounded neat! I wouldn't mind hearing an extended version if anybody can point me in the right direction..

Also, I can see that not a whole lot was changed from that screenshot from early SMW.. or, I don't see a lot that was changed, anyway. :)
Title: Re: Many odd videos I found
Post by: CrzyFlmngMnkyHead on May 02, 2006, 04:11:40 PM
A huge tan walking thing

Well, according to Nintendo (and infrences) that thing actually spews Widgets, as seen in prototype screenshots. From this, we can infer that:
1. Killing the thing would give you a shine sprite.
2. Shadow Mario was implented in the game, but sometime after the "alpha".
3. The thing would spew goop in the "alpha". There is proof behind this claim.
4. This is not a bump. If it was May 13, it would be.
Title: Re: Many odd videos I found
Post by: Cerberiga on May 13, 2006, 04:40:18 PM
On the forth M64 video, that large ship and submarine level looks impressive. Why take it off, Nintendo?

Check this out, really cool Mario Kart 64 Shortcuts and Glitches. Intersting! (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1873963189874425485&q=mario+kart+64)

Aren't those just Jolly Roger Bay and Dire Dire Docks?

...and I like how Bowser had some sort of cougar growl.
Title: Re: Many odd videos I found
Post by: PaperLuigi on May 13, 2006, 09:21:10 PM
Funny how it's May 13th, and here it is.
Title: Re: Many odd videos I found
Post by: CrzyFlmngMnkyHead on May 29, 2006, 01:51:35 PM
Another video! This time, it's a prototype of Waluigi Pinball and DK Pass in Mario Kart DS. Note the different title screen.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5057681567443740799&q=mario+beta
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-215309309383911697&q=mario+beta

This is not a bump. If it was June 13, it would be.
Title: Re: Many odd videos I found
Post by: Tingrio on May 29, 2006, 04:00:46 PM
I aslo found what seemed to be a beta version of Luigi's Mansion.

See this link: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7477862805184796465&q=Luigi%27s+Mansion+beta

Title: Re: Many odd videos I found
Post by: MEGAߥTE on May 30, 2006, 10:09:08 AM
cantthinkofaname: That's awesome.  Since I have the beta card, I need to figure out how to hack out those levels.  (You can't play them normally).
Tingrio: That's not exactly the beta version of Luigi's Mansion, it's the Spaceworld demo video that was made to show off the GameCube's capabilities.
Title: Re: Many odd videos I found
Post by: CrzyFlmngMnkyHead on June 04, 2006, 12:40:36 PM
Not really a prototype video, but here's somebody playing Super Mario Galaxy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4wnkLKgfgQ). A new move seems to be some sort of a spin-punch thing.


Edit: Mario Kart DS demo case: (https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.retro-games.co.uk%2Fnintendo%2Fmariokart_ds.gif&hash=9637a9934e2f7aee75cc84210940f30a)
The cartrage looks different as well.
Title: Re: Many odd videos I found
Post by: nensondubois on June 15, 2006, 11:16:07 AM
maybe the first video was a mario sunshine Beta project.
Title: Re: Many odd videos I found
Post by: CrzyFlmngMnkyHead on June 25, 2006, 10:10:45 AM
Prototype scans of an early Super Famicom:

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdisgruntleddesigner.com%2Fchrisc%2Fmisc%2FEarlySFC.JPG&hash=d515ba13a485b1ceca9c377f1c04f654)

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdisgruntleddesigner.com%2Fchrisc%2F1990%2FearlySFC1.jpg&hash=c1358dddcf7d4321633718c11c09b3a6)

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdisgruntleddesigner.com%2Fchrisc%2F1990%2FearlySFC2.jpg&hash=2905249b3fe19080633605d90256698f)
Title: Re: Many odd videos I found
Post by: The Chef on June 25, 2006, 11:26:18 AM
I've seen that before. It looks a lot more like the NES.
Title: Re: Many odd videos I found
Post by: CrzyFlmngMnkyHead on June 29, 2006, 12:18:49 PM
New Wario Ware: Smooth Moves footage. Before each microgame, a box will come up that will tell you what to do. Or maybe that's just for the demo...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5559057293872581546&q=Wii
Title: Re: Many odd videos I found
Post by: CrzyFlmngMnkyHead on July 05, 2006, 08:39:42 PM
A screenshot of a very early build of Super Mario 64.

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2F4%2F40%2FSuper_Mario_64_beta.jpg&hash=a83d8c43143f94497fa059f93ca438f3)
Title: Re: Many odd videos I found
Post by: BP on July 06, 2006, 01:39:51 AM
That's been on SM64's wikipedia page for as long as I can remember.
Title: Re: w00t! The REAL Mario 128!
Post by: CrzyFlmngMnkyHead on July 11, 2006, 06:11:35 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgtFXXzE8bk&search=nintendo%20gamecube%20break

Super Mario 128 Spaceworld Demo. Isn't this what TMK wanted...?
Title: Re: Many odd videos I found
Post by: MEGAߥTE on July 11, 2006, 06:21:13 PM
No, we have that.  We'd like the original direct-feed version, not a camcorded version.
Title: Re: Many odd videos I found
Post by: CrzyFlmngMnkyHead on July 11, 2006, 07:17:35 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qu2N5iSdVB8&search=Mario%20Beta

A build of Mario Kart DS that's definatly earlier than the demo that we have. All the textures are there, the level isn't just plain white. Also:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGgLQlMuKZ4&search=Mario%20Beta

Does anybody know what course this is? Appearantly, the name of the course is Nokonoko Course. And also...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEZNRovXHWo&search=Mario%20Beta

This level is much like the "Test world" in SMW, it's called "Test Circle".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl6MZqhjt84&search=Mario%20Beta

Prototype Mario Kart 64.
Title: Re: Mario Anime
Post by: CrzyFlmngMnkyHead on August 11, 2006, 04:19:31 PM
This topic will never die. Now that that's out of the way...

The Lost Mario Anime (http://forevergeek.com/games/rare_super_mario_anime_on_you_tube.php) has been found. Sorry if everybody already knows about this.

Well... I didn't see it in the Mario Anime section, so I thought I would post it.
Title: Re: Many odd videos I found
Post by: NBCGod on August 11, 2006, 06:09:45 PM
Things are different from the e3 version to the final product.
Title: Re: Many odd videos I found
Post by: Robert on August 18, 2006, 05:33:24 PM
I don't think this has been posted yet and it has only been a few days since the last post(meaning it's not a revival), so...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7861621877624863253&q=mario+kart (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7861621877624863253&q=mario+kart)

It's Mario Kart for the Gamecube. At this point, it's just a tech demo. Meaning there's only one person in a kart at a time in this version. It looks okay...
Title: Re: Many odd videos I found
Post by: CrzyFlmngMnkyHead on August 18, 2006, 08:23:00 PM
Nice find, too bad it's only 7 seconds...
Anyways, this (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9218587751602045133&q=Nintendo) made me ROFL.
Title: Re: Many odd videos I found
Post by: Robert on August 18, 2006, 09:13:24 PM
Nice find, too bad it's only 7 seconds...
Anyways, What is this? (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3219944462895578813&q=Nintendo) And this (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9218587751602045133&q=Nintendo) made me ROFL.

Thanks! I beleive The first one is the user's take on what the Wii's menu will look like. Apparently, this was made before The Revolution was re-named the Wii, as the creator apparently thought the Rev would be re-named the "RS", which I'm assuming stands for "Revolution System".

The Second video is pure absoulute gold.
Title: Re: Many odd videos I found
Post by: Kalo on August 20, 2006, 02:50:59 PM
some glitches on super mario sunshine http://youtube.com/watch?v=J5cqak7-DJ0
Title: Re: Many odd videos I found
Post by: Toad on August 21, 2006, 04:11:00 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGgLQlMuKZ4&search=Mario%20Beta

Does anybody know what course this is? Appearantly, the name of the course is Nokonoko Course. And also...


That video seems to be a beta of Mario Kart 64's Koopa Troopa Beach in Mario Kart DS. With a name like Nokonoko, it had to relate to the Koopas (since that's what they're called in Japan).
Title: Re: Many odd videos I found
Post by: CrzyFlmngMnkyHead on August 24, 2006, 07:44:56 PM
This (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7604055076445844507&q=Nintendo) is a pretty odd commercial for a tomato-based game...
Title: Re: Many odd videos I found
Post by: The Chef on August 25, 2006, 10:00:53 AM
Well, the beginning was strange. We should make this an all-video topic now thta you posted that.
Title: Re: Many odd videos I found
Post by: Pt_Peach on August 25, 2006, 12:42:01 PM
Nice find, too bad it's only 7 seconds...
Anyways, What is this? (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3219944462895578813&q=Nintendo) And this (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9218587751602045133&q=Nintendo) made me ROFL.

That's the corniest commercial ever (no it's not, stop lying). But look at this early Legend of Zelda commercial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvdBtQgIkKc). It's japanese, so I have no idea what they're saying. But it's sorta cool.
Title: Re: The General Mario/Nintendo-Video-Related Topic
Post by: CrzyFlmngMnkyHead on August 25, 2006, 01:16:07 PM
A ton of new videos...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4489870869747625346&q=Mario (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4489870869747625346&q=Mario)
Scenes from "rare" Mario commercials

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1169066876710679210&q=Mario (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1169066876710679210&q=Mario)
Super Mario 64 DS Test Level; (can be accessed through AR) somehow, this guy accessed it without an Action Replay.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-701998815151147418&q=Mario (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-701998815151147418&q=Mario)
Super Mario Galaxy Demo

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6435662001386740486&q=Mario (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6435662001386740486&q=Mario)
A guy hacked Super Mario 64 to make it veeery weird.*

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2316411257720966937&q=Mario (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2316411257720966937&q=Mario)
NEW Super Mario Bros. Glitch

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5937388580061280870&q=Mario (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5937388580061280870&q=Mario)
VERY Early Build of Super Mario 64

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2287564276895453297&q=Mario (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2287564276895453297&q=Mario)
Super Mario Bros. Fatal Code Hack*

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3105548296186364015&q=Mario (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3105548296186364015&q=Mario)
Super Mario 64 Yoshi Code (GameShark'd)

*Warning: May cause seizures.
Title: Re: The General Mario/Nintendo/Prototype Video-Related Topic
Post by: The Chef on August 25, 2006, 02:58:00 PM
I thought you posted some of those already. And that "Yoshi Code" looked rediculous.
Title: Re: The General Mario/Nintendo/Prototype Video-Related Topic
Post by: MEGAߥTE on August 25, 2006, 07:50:13 PM
I should mention that Nintendo RS (or any of the "Revolution" boot screens) is totally fake and really doesn't belong with all the other videos.
Title: Re: The General Mario/Nintendo/Prototype Video-Related Topic
Post by: coolkid on September 11, 2006, 07:10:12 PM
I looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooved it!
Title: Re: The General Mario/Nintendo/Prototype Video-Related Topic
Post by: MaxVance on September 11, 2006, 07:39:22 PM
Loved what?
Title: Re: The General Mario/Nintendo/Prototype Video-Related Topic
Post by: coolkid on September 12, 2006, 03:00:35 PM
Can't Think Of A Name's Videos!
Title: Re: The General Mario/Nintendo/Prototype Video-Related Topic
Post by: N64 Chick on September 13, 2006, 08:25:34 PM
I was browsing around YouTube and I found some very nice footage of early SM64. Mario's voice is even different...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HODfFcpecI
Title: Re: The General Mario/Nintendo/Prototype Video-Related Topic
Post by: The Chef on September 14, 2006, 03:44:09 PM
Man, the beta looks better than the final in a few ways....

-Bowser gives you a heap of coins for beating him.
-Mario does the copter sipin after a triple jump.
-Mario's old voice sounds simply awesome.
-The castle looks cooler.
-The HUD even looks cooler.
Title: Re: The General Mario/Nintendo/Prototype Video-Related Topic
Post by: coolkid on September 14, 2006, 04:46:04 PM
What does HUD stand for?
Title: Re: The General Mario/Nintendo/Prototype Video-Related Topic
Post by: SolidShroom on September 14, 2006, 04:46:44 PM
Heads up display.
Title: Re: The General Mario/Nintendo/Prototype Video-Related Topic
Post by: CrzyFlmngMnkyHead on September 14, 2006, 06:59:29 PM
I was browsing around YouTube and I found some very nice footage of early SM64. Mario's voice is even different...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HODfFcpecI

Congratulations, you just found a video of the alpha version of SM64! Now we know more about that one prototype picture that's been on Wikipedia...
Title: Re: The General Mario/Nintendo/Prototype Video-Related Topic
Post by: N64 Chick on September 14, 2006, 08:54:40 PM
Glad I was able to contribute something to this topic. ;)
Title: Re: The General Mario/Nintendo/Prototype Video-Related Topic
Post by: CrzyFlmngMnkyHead on September 19, 2006, 04:15:03 PM
LOLZ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2d29iFbfgXY)

Y YOSHI NO COLOR? WHY GREEN? BETAA? LOL

ETID: BETABETABETABETABETA LOL REALLY BETAISH CLICK NOW (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=148vkVMSRKs)
SUPA DUPA ETIDLS: Y SO EMPTY? ONLY 6 RED COINS? ITS NOTHING BUT TEXTURES? LOL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8l4nXCxJHws)
Title: Re: The General Mario/Nintendo/Prototype Video-Related Topic
Post by: Toad on September 19, 2006, 04:48:08 PM
LOLZ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2d29iFbfgXY)

Y YOSHI NO COLOR? WHY GREEN? BETAA? LOL

ETID: BETABETABETABETABETA LOL REALLY BETAISH CLICK NOW (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=148vkVMSRKs)
SUPA DUPA ETIDLS: Y SO EMPTY? ONLY 6 RED COINS? ITS NOTHING BUT TEXTURES? LOL
 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8l4nXCxJHws)

The guy talking in that first video is wrong.. Mario is not 'president of the Mushroom Kingdom', but a 'resident of the Mushroom Kingdom.'
Title: Re: The General Mario/Nintendo/Prototype Video-Related Topic
Post by: The Chef on September 19, 2006, 05:01:15 PM
He either misread his cue card or the sound quality on the video sucks.
Title: Re: The General Mario/Nintendo/Prototype Video-Related Topic
Post by: N64 Chick on September 20, 2006, 12:01:05 AM
*LOLs at Mario being "president of the Mushroom Kingdom"*

Oh, and since you mentioned Yoshi, here's some beta Yoshi's Story...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7NFp4UodwE
Title: Re: The General Mario/Nintendo/Prototype Video-Related Topic
Post by: The Chef on September 20, 2006, 12:40:59 PM
Somehow tha looked better than the final product. Also, anyone notice the differences in the Yoshi's colors?

-Green Yoshi had brown shoes instead of red.
-Yellow Yoshi had red shoes instead of green.
-Dark blue Yoshi had green shoes instead of pink.
-Black Yoshi had azure shoes instead of white.
-Instead of a pink Yoshi with light blue shoes, there's a purple yoshi with yellow shoes.
-Instead of a white Yoshi wit hazure shoes, there's a brown Yoshi with very dark colored shoes, possibly black.

I wish there was a game that had a Yoshi in every concievable color. That would be pwnsome.
Title: Re: The General Mario/Nintendo/Prototype Video-Related Topic
Post by: N64 Chick on September 20, 2006, 12:55:32 PM
I totally agree with you, The Chef.
Title: Re: The General Mario/Nintendo/Prototype Video-Related Topic
Post by: BooDestroyer on September 20, 2006, 04:32:35 PM
There needs to be more true platformers instead of spin-offs.
Title: Re: The General Mario/Nintendo/Prototype Video-Related Topic
Post by: coolkid on September 20, 2006, 07:29:08 PM
I agree.
Title: Re: The General Mario/Nintendo/Prototype Video-Related Topic
Post by: The Chef on September 20, 2006, 07:31:44 PM
You know that making two-word posts like that is considered spam, right? At least add something when you post.
Title: Re: The General Mario/Nintendo/Prototype Video-Related Topic
Post by: Lava89 on September 20, 2006, 10:38:09 PM
You know actually, it looks like the pre-release videos for Sunshine (in the original post) look like they would add alot to the game if they kept some of that, I mean the colors aren't as vibrant as the original and the water or interface isn't as polished, but the giant thing walking would be cool and some of the look of the buildings and city layouts would be cool if they had that with the polished graphics but made it like an extended part of the plaza.
Title: Re: The General Mario/Nintendo/Prototype Video-Related Topic
Post by: CrzyFlmngMnkyHead on September 21, 2006, 03:23:35 PM
uPdAtz0rz

I submitted a question about the giant mushroom man in the prototype SMS to Nintendo Pulse. Hopefully it will appear in the magazine. Anyways, since I have an AR, I'm going to do some more studying on the prototype SMS.
Title: Re: The General Mario/Nintendo/Prototype Video-Related Topic
Post by: coolkid on September 22, 2006, 03:01:27 PM
HINT:Defeat it to get a shine-sprite.
Title: Re: The General Mario/Nintendo/Prototype Video-Related Topic
Post by: CrzyFlmngMnkyHead on September 22, 2006, 08:25:14 PM
Umm... no. I defeated it, and all I got was a coin.

uPd4tz0rz
I used my Action Replay to get into TEST Level, and I have come to the conclusion that the "banana man" is a later version of the mushroom-man. However, the idea for it was scrapped and it was only left in to test collisions (which don't work in TEST), bosses and enemies. The banana-man would be the boss, and to test enemies, it would produce goopies and widgets.*

*This is just a theory.
Title: Re: The General Mario/Nintendo/Prototype Video-Related Topic
Post by: CrzyFlmngMnkyHead on September 23, 2006, 08:17:25 AM
New discovery:

In TEST Level, there's that giant overripe banana that walks around everywhere. And it will walk into that pit, but it will continue to walk into that wall until it eventually goes through it. However, I have found that if you stomp on it for your first time, you will get 2 coins (1 for stomping on the banana-man and another that appears after you stomp on it). But if you do it a second time, you will get 3 coins (2 for stomping on the banana-man and 1 that appears after you stomp on it). Do it a third time, you will get 4, and so on. This leads me to beleive that there isn't just 1 Shine in that level, but 2. I'm currently attempting to get that hidden 2nd Shine (in TEST Level). More news after I get 100 coins.

EDIT: I'm at 99 coins. I'm about to get the 100th coin... awww... crap. The game froze. It froze when I touched the coin, so it seems that the programmers didn't implent 100-coin-Shines until after the test level.
Title: Re: The General Mario/Nintendo/Prototype Video-Related Topic
Post by: Robert on September 23, 2006, 12:10:23 PM
Click (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9163042586762574732&q=Banjo+Kazooie)

Apparently, it's a beta version of Banjo Kazooie. Pretty cool
Title: Re: The General Mario/Nintendo/Prototype Video-Related Topic
Post by: coolkid on September 24, 2006, 06:54:08 PM
Alpha Nintendo Games are usualy always better than the Final Product.
Title: Re: The General Mario/Nintendo/Prototype Video-Related Topic
Post by: Robert on September 24, 2006, 08:04:52 PM
Beta Nintendo Games are usualy always better than the Final Product.

If it is not to much to ask, Coolkid, could you tell us why you think this? I'm not saying your opinion is wrong, I just asking you to elaborate on your opinion.
Title: Re: The General Mario/Nintendo/Prototype Video-Related Topic
Post by: CrzyFlmngMnkyHead on September 24, 2006, 08:07:02 PM
Beta Nintendo Games are usualy always better than the Final Product.

Yes they are, with their uncompletedness and glitches and random areas where no collision sensors are placed...
</sarcasm>

Seriously, you actually think that prototypes are better than finals?

P.S.: You capatalized too many things...
Title: Re: The General Mario/Nintendo/Prototype Video-Related Topic
Post by: The Chef on September 25, 2006, 01:12:54 PM
I think he means that some of the placeholders and junk end up looking better than the final product, and let's not forget all the features that usually get scrapped even though it would've been cool to have them.
Title: Re: The General Mario/Nintendo/Prototype Video-Related Topic
Post by: coolkid on September 25, 2006, 03:28:39 PM
SM64:The wa-hoo thingie annoys me. And they planed to make it all ya wa acording to the SM64 Alpha Vid. Zelda64(Alpha OOT):Not as hard and more cell-shady ness. SMS:Perfect diffuculty in my looks. Banjo Kazooie(Beta):Easier to fly.
Title: Re: The General Mario/Nintendo/Prototype Video-Related Topic
Post by: N64 Chick on September 25, 2006, 07:57:05 PM
Looks like I'm posting in this topic again. This can only mean that I have yet another video, right? Right. This time it's Paper Mario.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNW6X-D8Jw8
Title: Re: The General Mario/Nintendo/Prototype Video-Related Topic
Post by: CrzyFlmngMnkyHead on September 25, 2006, 08:35:32 PM
Thanks for contributing.
The more prototypes, the better. 'Cause I'm opening up a website that's going to include all of this stuff. :-)

New video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGbmUl9YceQ
A guy playing Super Mario Galaxy. He seems to be very good at it.
Title: Re: The General Mario/Nintendo/Prototype Video-Related Topic
Post by: Luigison on September 25, 2006, 10:56:32 PM
New video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGbmUl9YceQ
A guy playing Super Mario Galaxy. He seems to be very good at it.
Strange.  He walked on the wall of the castle in the same place we did at E3.  Actually I guess it's not very strange.  A lot of people did it, but meh.
Title: Re: The General Mario/Nintendo/Prototype Video-Related Topic
Post by: CrzyFlmngMnkyHead on September 27, 2006, 03:49:30 PM
Okay, I think I've got the TEST Level all figured out. The TEST Level isn't a test of all levels in the game, but rather a test of all of the objects in Delfino Plaza. So there would be a TEST Level for each level in the game (test level for Bianco Hills, Ricco Harbor, Gelato Beach, ect.). That would explain the lack of flying pirhanna (sp?) heads and Puffies.

100,000 CTOAN points to anyone that can find a test level for every level in SMS.
Title: Re: The General Mario/Nintendo/Prototype Video-Related Topic
Post by: N64 Chick on September 27, 2006, 11:16:14 PM
I just can't stay away from this topic and this time I've found a video that might knock your socks off...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQmM9Ydf63g
Title: Re: The General Mario/Nintendo/Prototype Video-Related Topic
Post by: DeadAwake on October 01, 2006, 12:49:08 AM
Haha.

Quote from: The Video Narrator
... looking suspiciously like Virtua Cop.
Title: Re: The General Mario/Nintendo/Prototype Video-Related Topic
Post by: The Chef on October 01, 2006, 08:30:02 AM
The early version of Wave Race looked like F-zero on water. 0_o
Title: Re: The General Mario/Nintendo/Prototype Video-Related Topic
Post by: NintendoExpert89 on October 03, 2006, 06:59:56 PM
I found this interesting page (http://www.freewebs.com/luigisbiggermansion/luigismansion.htm) chock-full of E3 footage and screenshots from the beta version of Luigi's Mansion. It holds TONS of things, like different types of ghosts, room arrangements, and rendered FMV not featured in the final game.
Title: Re: The General Mario/Nintendo/Prototype Video-Related Topic
Post by: N64 Chick on October 04, 2006, 01:44:22 AM
I knew about some of that stuff already, but quite a bit was new to me. In any case, this Luigi fan is amused...
Title: Re: The General Mario/Nintendo/Prototype Video-Related Topic
Post by: Toad on October 06, 2006, 07:05:57 PM
I remember there being another movie from/about Luigi's Mansion..

It was an FMV, and I think I saw it on IGN, before the GC came out. I can't remember if this is the beginning or not, but I do remember that it went something like this..

According to the camera angle, we are inside the front hall of the mansion. Luigi opens the front door, as the moon casts his silhouette onto the floor infront of us (we can't see anything but his shadow on the ground), he closes the door, slowly walks in, then stops about halfway across the entrance hall. The camera pans (or moves) up a little bit to show that we are seeing one of the Mario Bros (keep in mind that at this time, people thought we were seeing Mario..), and then the light comes up a little bit to show that we are seeing not Mario, but Luigi.

Luigi then turns to the camera for a second, turns back around, and is scared by a ghost (just like in the FMZ at that site..) I wish I could see that movie again.
Title: Re: The General Mario/Nintendo/Prototype Video-Related Topic
Post by: N64 Chick on October 07, 2006, 04:13:52 PM
I know what you're talking about and I went to look for it myself. All I've come up with is part of it and it's in a video here. It's the one called Spooky! E3 2001 footage.

http://media.cube.ign.com/media/015/015453/vids_9.html
Title: Re: More Lost Levels, lol
Post by: CrzyFlmngMnkyHead on October 27, 2006, 06:55:35 AM
More SMB3 lost levels? No wai!

Well, anyways, Japan got a ton of e-Reader cards for Super Mario Advance 4. Those cards contain the infamous Lost Levels. But wait, there's more: there's not just 16 levels, but 30!

More info here (http://www.pressthebuttons.com/2005/12/the_lost_ereade.html).

EDIT: Found scans of each card. View them here (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/importaku/importakus%20collection/card-e/sma4%20carde/card%20list.html).
Title: Re: The General Mario/Nintendo/Prototype Video-Related Topic
Post by: The Chef on October 27, 2006, 10:56:06 AM
Seeing all that made me wish that they'd make a whole new 2D platformer that combines elements from all the classic games, with hand-drawn sprites as graphics. Hey, if they did it for Zelda, they can do it for Mario, right?
Title: Re: The General Mario/Nintendo/Prototype Video-Related Topic
Post by: SushieBoy on October 28, 2006, 09:02:38 PM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1917325398721852884&q=Nintendo

You people gotta watch this!!
Title: Re: The General Mario/Nintendo/Prototype Video-Related Topic
Post by: MEGAߥTE on October 28, 2006, 10:34:18 PM
More SMB3 lost levels? No wai!

Well, anyways, Japan got a ton of e-Reader cards for Super Mario Advance 4. Those cards contain the infamous Lost Levels. But wait, there's more: there's not just 16 levels, but 30!

That's a little misleading... those aren't SMB3 lost levels, just new "lost" levels for SMA4, which aren't exactly lost, just not released in the US.
Title: Re: The General Mario/Nintendo/Prototype Video-Related Topic
Post by: CrzyFlmngMnkyHead on November 01, 2006, 06:52:50 PM
'K. I found a link that shows the E-Reader levels' maps. They're here (http://www.vgmaps.com/Atlas/GBA/index.htm#SuperMarioAdvance4SuperMarioBros3). They're pretty interesting... too bad USA never got them.
Title: Re: The General Mario/Nintendo/Prototype Video-Related Topic
Post by: The Chef on November 01, 2006, 07:25:49 PM
Was that really all of them? Dang, they were unique. The blend of stuff from all five classic Super Mario games seems like the greatest thing ever. They should've made a whole game outta that.
Title: Re: The PROTOTYPE topic: Discuss all PRE-RELEASE video games here!
Post by: CrzyFlmngMnkyHead on November 06, 2006, 07:49:55 PM
Umm... 'k.

Some guy named drx on the S2Beta board found a prototype cartrage of Sonic the Hedgehog 2. But this isn't the same one we already have on a ROM. This one's later than the one we have, suggessting this is a RC1, unlike the demo we have. So far, the guy's paied for it, and he's going to be receiving it soon. More info once he gets the cartrage and dumps it.

Link:
http://www.s2beta.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=8231
Title: Re: The PROTOTYPE topic: Discuss all PRE-RELEASE video games here!
Post by: BP on November 07, 2006, 12:24:18 AM
I see that this topic has been renamed. You are dead to me.
Title: Re: The PROTOTYPE topic: Discuss all PRE-RELEASE video games here!
Post by: SushieBoy on November 07, 2006, 09:52:27 AM
Dang, I found a video of a beta Mario Kart yesterday, but I can't find it now!
Title: Re: The PROTOTYPE topic: Discuss all PRE-RELEASE video games here!
Post by: CrzyFlmngMnkyHead on November 08, 2006, 09:00:33 PM
Umm... 'k.

Some guy named drx on the S2Beta board found a prototype cartrage of Sonic the Hedgehog 2. But this isn't the same one we already have on a ROM. This one's later than the one we have, suggessting this is a RC1, unlike the demo we have. So far, the guy's paied for it, and he's going to be receiving it soon. More info once he gets the cartrage and dumps it.

Link:
http://www.s2beta.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=8231

SKAARG

The Sonic the Hedgehog 2 prototype. The one used in the very, very old Nick Arcade special. Note: This is a link to the topic that has the rom, not a direct link to the rom. Not considered warez.

I'm up for the drx-ism religion.

http://www.s2beta.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=8345
Title: Re: The PROTOTYPE topic: Discuss all PRE-RELEASE video games here!
Post by: MaxVance on November 08, 2006, 09:04:04 PM
Note: This is a link to the topic that has the rom, not a direct link to the rom. Not considered warez.
Not drawing attention to yourself is often a good idea.
Title: Re: The PROTOTYPE topic: Discuss all PRE-RELEASE video games here!
Post by: SushieBoy on November 09, 2006, 10:02:45 AM
Hmmmmm, I saw that beta screenshot of the title screen on a sonic gamecube game manual. I think it was that port sonic mega collection but I'm not shure....
Title: Re: The PROTOTYPE topic: Discuss all PRE-RELEASE video games here!
Post by: Raccoon Sam on November 10, 2006, 01:41:27 AM
DRX is also the guy who made that Ristar level editor.
Title: Re: The PROTOTYPE topic: Discuss all PRE-RELEASE video games here!
Post by: Mr. Melee on November 22, 2006, 12:43:21 PM
I'm not sure if this will greatly contribute to anything, but I found an interesting (to say the least) video on YouTube. Link here. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgtFXXzE8bk&mode=related&search=)
Title: Re: The PROTOTYPE topic: Discuss all PRE-RELEASE video games here!
Post by: The Chef on November 22, 2006, 03:47:24 PM
I remember that being posted here already.
Title: Re: The PROTOTYPE topic: Discuss all PRE-RELEASE video games here!
Post by: CrzyFlmngMnkyHead on January 06, 2007, 03:29:16 PM
Dr. Mario prototype stuff.

Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxfRXhgnFYI)
Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbtnJXfb_1I)
Title: Re: The PROTOTYPE topic: Discuss all PRE-RELEASE video games here!
Post by: MEGAߥTE on January 06, 2007, 03:33:36 PM
Sorry, that's not beta stuff.  Those sprites are found in the cutscenes when you beat levels that are multiples of 5.  The guy is totally mistaken.
Title: Re: The PROTOTYPE topic: Discuss all PRE-RELEASE video games here!
Post by: Toad on January 09, 2007, 09:39:25 PM
I found this link at the Video Game Museum website. It's in the most recent updates for their website, talking about a SMW that looks more like an SMB3.

http://xoomer.alice.it/mononline/unseen/marioworldbeta.htm (how do take a single word and turn it into a link, like others have done in this topic?)
Title: Re: The PROTOTYPE topic: Discuss all PRE-RELEASE video games here!
Post by: Eclipsed Moon on January 09, 2007, 10:12:05 PM
Hey, they just snagged those pics from Chris Covell (which he in turn had scanned from a a Japanese magazine from 1989)
Title: Re: The PROTOTYPE topic: Discuss all PRE-RELEASE video games here!
Post by: Chupperson Weird on January 10, 2007, 07:09:06 PM
Why do prototypes always look better than finished games?
Title: Re: The PROTOTYPE topic: Discuss all PRE-RELEASE video games here!
Post by: The Chef on January 10, 2007, 07:47:55 PM
I guess it's just human nature. If that prototype were the final and vice-versa, we'd probably say the same thing.
Title: Re: The PROTOTYPE topic: Discuss all PRE-RELEASE video games here!
Post by: Raccoon Sam on January 12, 2007, 01:23:52 AM
DRX predicts there are some SMW beta carts leaked outside of the Nintendo world.
Their value may rise up to about 50 000, most likely.
Title: Re: The PROTOTYPE topic: Discuss all PRE-RELEASE video games here!
Post by: Chupperson Weird on January 12, 2007, 10:34:07 AM
That was a really ambiguous post.
They predict, so they really aren't sure? Predict meaning they are saying that what they think happened in the past will in reality have happened in the future? I don't understand!
Title: Re: The PROTOTYPE topic: Discuss all PRE-RELEASE video games here!
Post by: Fwirt on January 12, 2007, 05:53:16 PM
I guess it's just human nature. If that prototype were the final and vice-versa, we'd probably say the same thing.

Umm... I dunno, I never thought protos were BETTER than the final copy.  I always do think that there are some ideas the could have kept from the protos.
Title: Re: The PROTOTYPE topic: Discuss all PRE-RELEASE video games here!
Post by: CrzyFlmngMnkyHead on January 14, 2007, 05:22:48 PM
Donkey Kong for your Atari 5200 (http://cgi.ebay.com/COOL-Donkey-Kong-Unreleased-Atari-5200-cartridge_W0QQitemZ140074757027QQihZ004QQcategoryZ62053QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
Xbox Development Kit (http://cgi.ebay.com/XBOX-Development-Kit-Very-RARE_W0QQitemZ130066678168QQihZ003QQcategoryZ62054QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
Gameboy Development Kit (http://cgi.ebay.com/GameBoy-Advance-DEVELOPMENT-DEBUG-KIT-GBA-Nintendo-RARE_W0QQitemZ290072168697QQihZ019QQcategoryZ62054QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
Lunar: The Silver Star PROTOTYPE (http://cgi.ebay.com/ULTRA-RARE-Lunar-The-Silver-Star-Sega-CD-PROTOTYPE_W0QQitemZ230074383270QQihZ013QQcategoryZ62053QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

Somebody buy one of them.
Title: Re: The PROTOTYPE topic: Discuss all PRE-RELEASE video games here!
Post by: MaxVance on January 14, 2007, 05:33:46 PM
Hey, you're the one who has $500.
Title: Re: The PROTOTYPE topic: Discuss all PRE-RELEASE video games here!
Post by: CrzyFlmngMnkyHead on January 14, 2007, 06:28:55 PM
Yeah... but I already blew off about $300 on video games and airsoft stuff.

Maybe I'll use the left over money for the unreleased Donkey Kong game.
Title: Re: The PROTOTYPE topic: Discuss all PRE-RELEASE video games here!
Post by: NintendoExpert89 on January 30, 2007, 07:48:36 PM
Anyone ever come across the "Debug Room" (officially called "The World Map" in game) in SMRPG? I tried out the codes to get to it in the ROM, and I managed to map the entire area shortly after.

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi41.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe270%2FNintendoExpert89%2FDebugRoom.png&hash=73ccf19dec75d7ff03aec7a5cd1dbdba)

When you first enter this room, a message appears across the screen, in the fashion of "narrator" messages:

  The World Map
Talk to the person of the place
         you wish to go to.

The Mario facing the screen is the one the player controls (and additionally the starting point), while the other does absolutely nothing but can be jumped on like a normal NPC. Talking to the Toads or Bowser will cause them to ask the player if he wants to go to a certain place (i.e. Nimbus Land), and thus the player can warp anywhere in game no matter what the progress is or what party members he has. Another Toad in the room also grants Mario the ability to gain any party member he wishes. The BGM for this room is the same as that for the Mushroom Kingdom area. The room exists in the Japanese version as well.

I also have a ZSNES save state somewhere if anyone wants it.
Title: Re: The PROTOTYPE topic: Discuss all PRE-RELEASE video games here!
Post by: MEGAߥTE on January 31, 2007, 01:13:36 AM
Yep, that's a big entry that we haven't yet gotten around to adding to Lost Bytes.  We do have something special coming up in the fairly near future for that section though...
Title: Re: The PROTOTYPE topic: Discuss all PRE-RELEASE video games here!
Post by: SushieBoy on February 18, 2007, 10:52:09 AM
BUMP

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbuvJ126ih0&mode=related&search=Mario%20Beta

Beta NSMB??
Title: Re: The PROTOTYPE topic: Discuss all PRE-RELEASE video games here!
Post by: Chupperson Weird on February 18, 2007, 10:27:22 PM
Looks like the Mario half of the 2-player E3 2005 demo.
Title: Re: The PROTOTYPE topic: Discuss all PRE-RELEASE video games here!
Post by: SushieBoy on February 19, 2007, 02:20:44 PM
I tried....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSH_kRN3keM

This would make and awesome Wii game though. You should find more beta videos about a N64 version of Kirby Air Ride.
Title: Re: The PROTOTYPE topic: Discuss all PRE-RELEASE video games here!
Post by: SolidShroom on February 19, 2007, 05:27:30 PM
A Kirby Tilt and Tumble sequel would be pretty awesome for the Wii.