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Video Games => Mario Chat => Topic started by: spamspamspamspam on May 21, 2006, 03:42:11 PM
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This topic is designed to hear your thought's about what characters you'd like to have more developed, a character you'd like to see, Etc.
For example, a character I'd like to see is Whoever the reigning monarch in the mushroom kingdom is.
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I'd like to see Daisy a LOT more developed on behalf of her ruling over Sarasaland, and her overall personality. That way, we'd know her as a completely different person than Peach, rather than knowing her as the 'other princess who rides with Peach in MK:DD'.
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I'd like to hear Mario talk in full sentences. It wouldn't be as annoying as most say. I know because the UK Official Mario Website has him talking quite a bit.
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I agree, In the mario RPG's mario would just turn his head, jump,or yell out small screams.
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Yeah really, (and only in the games done by Camelot) Wario and Waluigi are the characters who get the most lines.
Also I think it would be awesome if in one game, you've defeated Kamek, Bowser Jr., and Bowser, and you think it's all over when in comes the final boss........
MAMA BOWSER!!!!
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I agree with Blue Toad about Daisy. It would be nice to see her in more games. Most clever. And it would be cool to see Mario speak in full sentences. Also all of the rest of the Mario characters. Peach, Daisy, Luigi, and Toad. I would also like to see Toad get his own game. ^_^
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I would like to see mario get captured and cloned. Then I hope the clone becomes evil so Luigi,yoshi, and toad have to rescue him, and kill the clone.
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Personally, I don't like it when video games clone the main character. It seems so unorigninal, and boring.
Shadow the hedgehog, anyone?
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I agree with Blue toad, I'd like to see Daisy a lot more. The only games she's ever been in are the two Mario land games, the sports games, every Mario party game after 1 and 2, and Mario Kart: DS and Mario Kart: DD. Actually that is a lot of games...but she has only had a major role in the Mario Land series.
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She wasn't in SML2. So that's only one major title.
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I'd like to see Luigi get some more of his own titles, not just "I gotta save mario so he can save everyone" games.
Also, Mario gave an acceptance speech when he and Link were inducted into the Video Game Hall of Fame, so, he has spoken.
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I wish the family in DDP would make a cameo appearance in the next Mario RPG. They could be ordinary NPCs, just in a town somewhere. Or they could be part of a sidequest, or even part of the main story. I don't care. They need recognition.
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I said the same thing in one of the SSB topics.
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I would like to see mario get captured and cloned.
Technically, you could say he was "cloned" in Super Mario Sunshine
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The crappy part is that the 'clone' was really BJ. Anyway, I'd like to see Stanley and Foreman Spike return. We need more humans and the possibility hasn't been ruled ou due to Pauline's appearance in Mvs.DK 2. I'd also love to see the bosses from Wario's Woods return. They could make some interesting additions to the cast.
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I'd like to see Waluigi be more developed. We only get to see him in multiplayer games like Mario Kart and Mario Party. I'd like to see a game involving Luigi and Waluigi.
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The best wqay to pull that would be to make a third Mario & Luigi with Wario and Waluigi.
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Pretty much everyone. But then again, Mario games aren't known for their storylines and character development.
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I guess a better wording for the question would be: What characters do you want to see have an important role in the plots for future Mario games?
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I'd like to see Waluigi be more developed. We only get to see him in multiplayer games like Mario Kart and Mario Party. I'd like to see a game involving Luigi and Waluigi.
I agree COMPLETELY!! I know that there's TONS of people protesting against him becoming an actual character with some background, but I think that he's a really intriguing character - personally, I think that if they don't make a game with Luigi and Waluigi, then they should at least make a game with Wario and Waluigi.
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I agree with Blue toad, I'd like to see Daisy a lot more. The only games she's ever been in are the two Mario land games, the sports games, every Mario party game after 1 and 2, and Mario Kart: DS and Mario Kart: DD. Actually that is a lot of games...but she has only had a major role in the Mario Land series.
oh and you forgot mario party 4 that's all i played and sopme cameos.
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Uhhh, no he didn't.
every Mario party game after 1 and 2
That includes MP4.
Well, if there's not voice acting in the next major game featuring Daisy, I'm fine with it.
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I know that there's TONS of people protesting against him becoming an actual character with some background, but I think that he's a really intriguing character
I think the reason so many people hate Waluigi is because we don't know much about him. If Nintendo makes an actual game with Waluigi, I think gamers might appreciate him more. I mostly want to know whether or not he is Wario's brother. I'd also like to know some detail on the Wario Bros.' past; what caused them to become the way they are. BTW I call Wario and Waluigi the Wario Bros because I think they are indeed brothers, and their surname is Wario.
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Until then, we have fan-theories. I once made one up, but I cant remember how it went. Maybe I should make a topic about this.
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We have Mariology (http://themushroomkingdom.net/board/index.php?topic=7155.0) for that. It hasn't been posted in for a while, though.
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Would it be OK if I bumped it?
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Please do. I have wanted to for awhile now, but I can't think of anything to post...
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I think the reason so many people hate Waluigi is because we don't know much about him.
we really don't know too much about luigi or wario either. it's all about Mario he sucks!
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Well, in PiT we find out that Luigis younger self was alot braver than his older self. We also find that Luigi holds much potential and courage, but is a bit too cowardly to use it. We have a bit on Luigi.
Also, we really don't have much about Mario. He's brave, thinks about others, and has a slight weight issue.
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I've thought about it some more...and I've decided that we already have a glimpse of the personalities of a lot of characters. Mario is shy but brave. Luigi is cowardly and usually just looks after the house while Mario is gone. Wario craves money and power. Peach is always in need of rescuing. Bowser is a pain. Baby Bowser is a pain too.
I was thinking that maybe we should see more of Professor Frankly (PM:TTYD), Professor Fungi (Mario Party 2), Daisy (Super Mario Land, MK:DD, MK:DS, Mario Parties 3 through 7, various sports), and Waluigi.
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Most PM:TTYD characters are solid, flat gold and very well should be incarnated in 3D for future titles, but that doesn't commonly happen... most Mario RPG characters end up being never seen again, though I understand that the Star Spirits were in Mario Party 5, which I understand was not solid gold. *sigh...* Why do characters like Toadette get more spotlight than characters like Fawful? Imagine Fawful golfing... I HAVE PAR!!!
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That's why I'd like to see Fawful in SSBB. "I HAVE VICTORY!!!" Or when he flies into the distant sky in battle, he could shout his famous "I HAVE FURY!!!"
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A bit too early for that. We should see him featured in a few mainsrteam Mario games first. He's not what you'd call one of Nintendo's greatest stars. At least not yet. ;)
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What are you talking about? Fawful is the best ever. He is so original and special compared to all of the other characters.
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Including Mario,Luigi,Peach,Yoshi,Bowser,DK,Doc,Link,Zelda,Shiek,Ganondorf,Young Link,Samus,Kirby,Fox,Falco,Pika,Pichu,Jiggs,Mewtwo,Ness,Falcon,Ice Climbers,Marth,Roy,Mr.GW,Wario,Metaknight,ZS Samus and Pit?
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Well, compared to Pit at the very least, or Pichu. The Ice Climbers, too. Sure, they're from a simpler, more carefree time where laws didn't apply to video games and pixels a foot wide were good graphics ('cept Pichu), which is all vey nice and good. But think about it; Fawful is as much of a classic character as the Ice Climbers are. The Ice Climbers were in one game (correct me if I'm wrong, by all means, as far as I know there was no Ice Climber 2) while Fawful played a major role in one. Just because he made his debut in 2003, he can't be a classic character? So, his debut was in a game not directly made by Nintendo... but AlphaDream only works for Nintendo and Solid Snake is from Konami!! Fawful needs to be in SSBB, at the very least as a trophy. Fawful is GOLD. Throw him in a spinoff and fans would FLOCK to it. Heck, if Fawful were in Mario Party 8 I'd buy it. But instead we get Toadette again and again... why?
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I think whan a character is made for a specific type of Mario game, they are usually confined to that type of game. Unless they were made in a major platformer title where Myamoto had more involvement, such as the big 8(Mario, Luigi, Peach, Toad, Yoshi,Wario, DK and Bowser).
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But still. Fawful has become an instant classic. He has that certain special something that makes a character one of greatest. I don't care in what form, but I'd die a happy gamer if Fawful appeared in SSBB. Plus, Fawful has the potential of bringing the spinoffs back to their former glory (Especially the Mario Party franchise).
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Maybe he could appear as a trophy.......
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Maybe they could make a small character selection box that acts as just a bunch of generic fun characters that people just wanna see. No more than one or two special moves each. You just scroll between them like changing costumes. Fawful, Olimar, Toad, Dry Bones, E. Gadd, etc. More characters could be downloaded via internet or something like that.
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Maybe they could make a small character selection box that acts as just a bunch of generic fun characters that people just wanna see. No more than one or two special moves each. You just scroll between them like changing costumes. Fawful, Olimar, Toad, Dry Bones, E. Gadd, etc. More characters could be downloaded via internet or something like that.
Mmmm, Olimar needs to be a full-on "real" character in SBB... just imagine all the wacky Pikmin-based attacks!
I'd love to see Fawful as a trophy, but not much else. There are a ton of Mario characters in SBB as is, we don't want oversaturation of characters from ONE franchise.
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That's why I think Toad should be the last Mario character they add. And to those of you who spoke of the Ice Climbers being in only one game, Sakurai said he neede a character to represent the NES and the candidates were Urban Champion, Ice CLimber, Mach Rider and Balloon Fighter. All of those had only one game. Mr.GW was added as the last unlockable character for shock value.
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I can't believe people would want Mr. G&W dropped out!
I don't want an oversaturation of characters from one franchise either, but I still want to see Fawful or the Babies become playable characters. Toad is mandetory, so I'm not mentioning him. If they have to, they could drop Dr. Mario. (Although, I don't really wanna see the Doc dropped.)
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Why is Toad mandatory? What would his moves possibly be? "Hey check it out, Up+B is 'Get Killed by Bowser!'" He's already in the game as one of Peach's funnier attacks, and that's enough for me--plus it fits his persona better. Toad's a support character, not a stand-alone hero.
Now that we've got Wario (who's technically there to support Wario Ware and not the Mario franchise) I can't see any other Mario series characters that NEED to be added. We've got 7 (8 if you count Wario) Mario characters as is, the only other franchise that comes close is Pokemon with only 4 characters.
The only Smash Bros. characters I'd be okay with dropping are Dr. Mario, Roy and Pichu, becuase they're clones of Mario, Marth and Pikachu, rather than truly separate characters.
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The only Smash Bros. characters I'd be okay with dropping are Dr. Mario, Roy and Pichu, becuase they're clones of Mario, Marth and Pikachu, rather than truly separate characters.
:( If you think that, you must not use them. They are my three favorite characters and I see differences in them and the people they are based on.
-Doctor mario's pills are a lot differentthan Mario's fire balls, and he is somewhat faster.
-Roy is slower and stronger than Marth.
-Pichu is a bit stronger than pikachu and faster, but damages himself to compensate.
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I know how you feel. But some of the characters are a little too the same, and it would be better if they were replaced by more original characters with different attacks. Although they should really make a SSB with 1,000 characters. Then nobody could complain.
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You know how hard that would be?
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That would totally work! In a 11 disc set!
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The only Smash Bros. characters I'd be okay with dropping are Dr. Mario, Roy and Pichu, becuase they're clones of Mario, Marth and Pikachu, rather than truly separate characters.
My cousin would be really upset if they got rid of Roy. He's her best character. I'd rather have Marth be dropped. Roy has too much fanbase to be dropped. I agree with you on Pichu.
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I think I posted this idea in the SSBB suggestions area.
Similar characters with slightly different movesets are to become costumes.
-Mario has has 4 or five costumes, and then one could be the Doc. with his slight move change.
-Pikachu could have his hats and then be Pichu or Raichu.
-Peach's Daisy costume could be replaced by a real daisy character with slight changes.
-Link could have Young Link, Cel-Da link, and maybe classic link.
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Kojinka: They can't drop Marth because he was the main character in the first Fire Emblem game ever created. Roy should be dropped because he is a clone and was only placed in Melee to advertize for his game, FE6, wich hadn't been released yet. Character's placement should not be decided on fanbase(although I don't which 'fanbase' you were refering to when it came to Roy). Sakurai said this himself.
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I agree the chef,all clones should be dropped.Exept for young link.He was just auesome to me.
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I didn't say I wanted them to be dropped. I only said that if they had to drop someone, it should be Doc,Pichu and Roy. By the way, Ganondorf and Falco were never intended to be clones, so they could stay and get new movesets. I'd also like to say that Young Link should only stay if they change him to his Celda look.
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I never said I wanted Marth to be dropped. I just said that if I had to choose between Marth and Roy, it'd be Marth because I'm better with Roy, and he's my cousin's best character. If they drop Roy, they better make up for the loss of a very good character by raising the power of Marth's attacks. Keep Roy, replace Pichu with Raichu, drop Doc. in order to make room for more original Mario characters.
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I beleive Sakurai stated that the character's physics will be redesigned from the ground up, so don't fret over Roy being gone because chances are Marth will be changed for the better. Same thing with Doc and Pichu. As for Falco, Ganondorf and Young Link, they should be given all-new movesets.
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That would be nice. The moves are what really make the character special and different from all the rest. I mean it is a fighting game for goodness sake! Can we make everyones' moves different?
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The only reason the clones were even there in the first place was because they wanted to beef up the roster in a really short time, so they take a character, change his physics a bit, and bam! A new character. Hwever, this isn't entirely bad as some players actually like these new physics and would be a bit upsset if those character were taken out. Now me, I only approve of characters being removed if the physics are being changed, which I'm pretty sure was confirmed by Sakurai himself. But on the other hand, If the physics do go unaltered, then no one should be taken out as that would be alienating some players. Some of the clones weren't even intended to be clones in the first place, such is the case with Falco and Ganondorf, so if the physics are changed, maybe the movesets for these characters can be changed entirely to suit the way these characters were originally intended to be portrayed. That's my few cents.
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Not all clones should be dropped. BUT, all clones should be changed so they're not clones anymore. Think of it like this: We haven't heard of many new characters... but most of them will probably be hidden! Duh! Nintendo didn't go around announcing "Mr. Game & Watch will be a secret character that you will work your but off to get, along with Mewtwo, Ganondorf, Marth, Roy, and many more that we will tell you about tomorrow!!" before SSBM's release, did they? No. They're SECRET characters because you don't know about them.
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I call 'em 'Unlockables'.
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I said that the clones should be changed only if all of the other character's physics were being changed. Why? Because if the physics weren't being changed, then the players of the previous game will be angry that the characters they once played, with the physics that were similar to another character but still different(i.e. clones), will be gone in favor of a new moveset. Changing a clone's moveset is like taking out a whole character, and if they do that to the clones, but not the rest of the characters, then some people will be very upset.
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They can change the movesets of Ganondorf and Falco. The Falcon clone thing doesn't fit Ganondorf's amazing character. He needs projectile attacks. (Remember how he threw those balls of energy at Link in OoT?) And Falco is just too cool.