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Video Games => Video Game Chat => Topic started by: megamush on February 11, 2008, 09:18:21 PM
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I was wondering what people around here think there main(s) will be in Brawl, mine are probaly going to be either Ike, Snake, or Zero Suit Samus.
What are your mains?
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Mine will be the LANDMASTER.
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Jeff! I like rockets!
ADDENDUM: Won't it be easier to tell when it's out?
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Could have sworn I replied to a topic like this before... oh well, I'll repeat my top 3:
1. Wolf
2. Falco
3. Lucario
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I am growing to hate the term "Main" more and more.
As I said in the other thread, I probably won't have one. I like playing with a lot of different characters.
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Don't hate it, Vid. Really. There's no point to hating the term used to describe a person's best character. That doesn't even make any sense. Also, good luck out there if you don't plan on getting particularly good at using one character...
Also, I'm with Suffix. Rockets are awesome. Also, there's no saying what character you'll be best at using. You can't really just up and decide, "I'm best with this character," before you ever use them. You can say, "I want to be best with this character" and take it from there, I guess.
That being said, I guess I'll just predict. My current mains, Ness, Pikachu and Yoshi, seem to have experienced de-nerfing from Melee to Brawl, from what I can see in videos, so it's highly, highly likely (more likely than Sakurai putting a screenshot involving a Kirby character in the next update) that they will stay on my list. I want to pick up Wario. If I do I will NEVER use the overalls that so subtract from his personality. I will probably pick up Lucas, being a Ness user... after the Mother 3 fan translation is finished. But to me, he seems like training Ness--easier to use, but a little less powerful.
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I just got done playing about six hours of Brawl and I actually found myself (totally unexpectedly going in) liking Diddy Kong the best. He's pretty fast and has some sweet double-smash moves. His Up-B has huge, huuuuuge lateral and vertical recovery and his Final Smash is much more of a Sure Thing than some other characters'.
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I'm with Suffix. Rockets are awesome.
You know I was being sarcastic right? Just like the Landmaster, he's not... ah well. Lizard Dude, where did you manage to play Brawl already?
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A friend got his Japanese Wii in today (game came a bit earlier in the week) so as far as I'm concerned now, it's out. ^_^
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Whahahaha. That's quite a price to pay to get it one month early. Unless, of course, there are other reasons to get a Japanese Wii.
...are there?
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Well, any other Japanese-exclusive games or games you want to try a little early, of course. You can also access their channel that lets you play demos and I think even download demos to your DS.
But in my opinion, if you can't actually read Japanese there's no real other reasons, no.
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You know I was being sarcastic right?
Of course. But, rockets are indeed awesome.
I wish I had a friend that impatient. Oh well. I'm fine with the wait. Twenty-six days remaining... And an extra for people whose game stores don't get the game until the next day. Maybe Brawl will be a polite exception.
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I dunno, I bet there get to be some good Japan-only games for Wii that don't really require you to know Japanese.
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You get the good Virtual Console games long before America does, for one. I have to ask why every region except America has "Mario's Super Picross" (SNES version of Mario's Picross), when it's perfectly playable. But I have to admit I just checked the list and didn't see anything good Japan had that America didn't, so maybe the America releases have been picking up lately. I remember it was a while before America got Donkey Kong Country, anyway.
...well, can't think of anything else to add.
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I am growing to hate the term "Main" more and more.
Yeah, it kinda bugs me, too... seems to be kinda forced, like it's based on the "hey, we (SSB fanatics) can't be cool unless we make up some lingo!", mentality.
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I dunno, I bet there get to be some good Japan-only games for Wii that don't really require you to know Japanese.
I remember changing the language on Melee to Japanese and was quite surprised to see that most of the things were still in English.
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Yeah, it kinda bugs me, too... seems to be kinda forced, like it's based on the "hey, we (SSB fanatics) can't be cool unless we make up some lingo!", mentality.
Except for the whole fact that they didn't make it up.
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What the heck, "main" is short for "main character" which is shorter than "character I use most" or "character I'm most experienced at using." It's not some dumb thing pr0s are obsessed with, either. It's something that just happens. I'm not trying to be rude or sound elitist or anything, but online play will be really rough if you don't get good at using a specific character. Any form of even slightly competitive play will--I certainly don't plan on going easy on anyone (but I'm not even that amazingly good, you know). Smash is slightly different from Mario Kart and experience really does help.
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I remember changing the language on Melee to Japanese and was quite surprised to see that most of the things were still in English.
It makes me wonder if the Japanese are just used to hearing the English names for characters spoken aloud (or maybe the Japanese names for some of these characters strictly sounds like their English counterparts, like a... reverse romanization or whatever). We saw the same thing in Brawl. Maybe there's not enough space on the disc to add Japanese names for the graphics of the character icons.
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Easy.
Pit
with a little bit of Pikmin & Olimar.
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Except for the whole fact that they didn't make it up.
Nintendo did?
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Nintendo did?
Nintendo made smash, without smash there will be no mains, so technically Nintendo created mains
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No, I mean if Smash Bros. fans didn't invent the word "main" in reference to your favorite character, then does that mean Nintend did?
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how should we know?
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No, I mean if Smash Bros. fans didn't invent the word "main" in reference to your favorite character, then does that mean Nintend did?
I assumed he meant it came from other fans, that it's not SSB-exclusive. It's just a fighting game phrase. I could be wrong, though.
I was best in SSBM as: Luigi, Captain Falcon, Mario, Jiggypuff and Kirby. As far as Brawl, I'll probably be using Wario and Sonic a lot so hopefully I get good with them. Snake too, actually. I sometimes play with rules to the extantr of "winner keeps character, loser has to change". It forces character change and it's kind of fun when my friends would pick their best character and then lose and have to change.
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"Main" is just people being too lazy to type "main character" (or, in some cases, "main account").
In order from best to worst: Yoshi, Peach, Kirby, Pichu, Ice Climbers, Ness.
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My mains will probably still be Falco, Marth and Mario, with Diddy Kong and Zero Suit Samus joining their ranks.
Let me make this interesting by listing mains from other games.
Street Fighter II: E.Honda, Vega
Street Fighter Alpha: Cammy, Sakura, Karin,
Capcom vs. SNK: Nakoruru, Ken, Dan
King of Fighters: K', Athena, Terry
KoF Maximum Impact: B. Jenet, Terry, Alba
Killer Instinct: Spinal, Orchid
Mortal Kombat: Liu Kang, Sub Zero
Marvel vs. Capcom: Wolverine, Spider Man, Sakura
I've played Guilty Gear, but I don't remember half the people in that game. All I know is that the AI sucks and the game is easy.
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Street Fighter II - Ryu, if only because I haven't played it in a long time and don't really remember how to use anyone else. I used to be able to use Guile a bit.
Street Fighter Alpha - I played SFA2 once. I never had a chance to play any of them after that.
Capcom vs. SNK - I think I used Morrigan and Ryu a lot back when I had this one...
Mortal Kombat - I never really got into this series either. However, I like Rayden and Sub-Zero a lot.
Marvel vs. Capcom - Morrigan, Mega Man, and Ryu.
Darkstalkers - Morrigan. When I played this, I remembered from one of the other games featuring her that her moveset was somewhat similar to Ryu's, so I used her knowing that I wouldn't have as much trouble as if I tried to use someone else. Not that I didn't try the other characters, of course.
Soul Calibur II - I inherited my Nightmare usage from my father, but I learned to play as a lot of other characters thanks to the existence of Charade.
Tekken - The one time I played a game in this series, it made me go "LOL WUT".
I really should play one of the newer Street Fighter games.
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Anybody, but Sonic!
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I'd imagine theres going to be a ton of "pros" online that will only strictly use sonic because he will be the fastest character.
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No, apparently the focus of Brawl is aerial combat as opposed to speed. Diddy Kong and Wolf O'Donnell seem to be at the top of the tier list.
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A tier list can't be established this early. When it is, though, I hope it doesn't suck as heavily as the Melee one. TWO characters in the top tier, and clones at that!? C'mon, all of the high tier ones could be moved to the top, the top of the middle moved up to high and so on... the "bottom" is just so vast, it's like the Smash Back Room lost interest by the time they got to characters no one in there happened to use and chose names from a hat.
I'll readily accept that tiers exist, I guess, since Bowser is decidedly very easy to combo. But the list doesn't take much into perspective at all, as if it's all based on how well a pr0 player of every character would do against the best Fox player in the world. But that's how tournaments go, isn't it?
And of course, whether or not you'll win or lose is based on how good a player you are, not your main's number on the list. But players all go for Fox, the so-called best character in the game, he gets a million combo videos on YouTube to strengthen his following, and the other characters get neglected and stay at the bottom.
I don't wish that Ness had a million drones or anything--I wish people would use the character they like most and get good at using them (I know for a fact that none of the Fox users I know use him because they love Star Fox). It's on the box (of the original): "Duke it out as your favorite Nintendo characters!" But, it's like in Pokémon, they get the legendaries and don't care about favorites or anything... Except the only playable legendary Pokémon in Melee is at the bottom of the list. How ironic.
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I once saw a really fun YouTube vid with Mewtwo kicking butt.
I want to try out Pokemon Trainer, Olimar, Lucario, ROB, and Toon Link. Ganondorf will probably be one of my mains again.
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I suppose I'll stick with Luigi, but the new comers look good to.
I'll be sure to try them as well.
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I'd like to try out Ike. I never liked Marth on Melee. Even if his attacks were stronger on the tip of his sword, I still found Roy more powerful.
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I think ROB will be a main. along with Toon Link. I might try to master Olimar too..... but my main.... main has always been Luigi and always will be.
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I believe in tiers, but they made Brawl so much more balanced that it's hard to say. But for one thing, it's not about speed anymore.
I don't have a "main" because I play as a lot of characters, but if I had to say it would be Link.
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tiers shmiers. Some of my best characters in Melee are either near the bottom or in the middle. Not to mention I'm not a tourneyfan, but I will be watching a few matches for the tournament on the Brawl midnight release at Software etc.
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I believe in tiers, but they made Brawl so much more balanced that it's hard to say. But for one thing, it's not about speed anymore.
I don't have a "main" because I play as a lot of characters, but if I had to say it would be Link.
There is one character that seems incredibly cheap. And that is Sonic. The computer or any human player will over use the spin dash. It even works in the air (Which really makes no sense) and it homes in on any nearby player so you can land back a platform quite easily. And his Spring Jump is way too high. Well I guess it evens out with the fact that the move has very bad horizontal range...... Or does it? Well who really needs his Spring Jump when you have the Spin Dash!
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I think that Link, Marth, or Peach will be my main character. My main would be Roy if he was in the game, he'd be my main. I liked playing as Roy in Melee even though Marth had most of the same moves. He seemed as if he had stronger attacks.
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There is one character that seems incredibly cheap. And that is Sonic. The computer or any human player will over use the spin dash. It even works in the air (Which really makes no sense) and it homes in on any nearby player so you can land back a platform quite easily. And his Spring Jump is way too high. Well I guess it evens out with the fact that the move has very bad horizontal range...... Or does it? Well who really needs his Spring Jump when you have the Spin Dash!
Sonic actually has three Spin-Dash moves; Spin Charge, which is his Down+B; Spin Dash, which is like Jigglypuff's Rollout in function and can be linked with jumps; and the Homing Attack (which is the one you described) which is Neutral B.
Seems kinda redundant, though...
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I think that Link, Marth, or Peach will be my main character. My main would be Roy if he was in the game, he'd be my main. I liked playing as Roy in Melee even though Marth had most of the same moves. He seemed as if he had stronger attacks.
its probaly because on most of his attacks his sword catches fire
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Anyway, I'm hoping to main Luigi, Wolf and Lucas, though Sonic, Bowser, Marth, Ness, Lucario and Falco all look interesting and could also be mained; just that I like Luigi and Wolf as characters and Lucas looks really interesting to play as, as I've recently started using Ness for Vs. CPU matches in Melee.
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1.MARIO!
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Even though I like aerial combat (Luigi), Lucario is looking more and more appealing.
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Yeah, totally.
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With its Final Smash barely hitting even one character.
Though I'm biased since I hate Diamond & Pearl and nearly all the new species it brought with it. Very, very much.
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Meh, keep in mind that he can aim that big beam. Mario can only go left or right with his fire blast.
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What is Pit doing in that picture?
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Flying... and also glowing somehow. Maybe he's got really shiny wings...?
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Flying... and also glowing somehow. Maybe he's got really shiny wings...?
That's his Up+B, Wings of Icarus. Pit looks to be an absolute monster when it comes to recovery, what with his multiple jumps, gliding and pwnage Up+B...
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Whew, I can finally post here again, so I'd say my mains are gonna be Luigi, Wolf, Sonic and Wario. Mostly Wario because I've wanted him in a SSB game for quite a while.
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Heheh. But what about up smashes, Ultima Shadow?
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With its Final Smash barely hitting even one character.
Meh, keep in mind that he can aim that big beam. Mario can only go left or right with his fire blast.
Yeah, aim and move it while it's shooting.
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Ah, thank you for clarifying that. I meant to say he could aim it while it constantly while firing.
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I, too, can't wait to try Lucario. The Aura-based attacks will be interesting since I frequently took a lot of damage back in Melee.
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I didn't say it was a good thing.
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well my "main" from SSBM was kirby. Probably same thing for Brawl.
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In Melee, I usually play as Peach. I also like to use her in Mario Kart. Folks don't take me seriously whenever I play as her which allows me to do more damage to them.
I'm not sure when or if I will get Brawl. I may get it for the summer when I have most of my parties at my place, although I want Mario Kart and will probably buy that first. I'm sure that I'll stick with Peach though (in both), especially if her moves are similar to what she does in Melee.
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My list has turned out something like this.
Ness/Lucas
Wario
Yoshi
Pikachu
Mr. Game & Watch
I'm glad I took to Wario easily. I'm obsessed with the fact that he can swallow a motorcycle. I always lose if I use him wearing the horrible overalls, however. I've almost completely lost my ability to use Mario effectively. How ironic--he was the only character I would EVER use until last year. My other favorite characters were improved, and that makes me happy.
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My profile currently says my most played is Captain Falcon, second most is Olimar, least played is Marth.
<3 <3 <3 Olimar
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My profile says Wolf, then Wario, then Snake, but only because my brother always plays as Snake and Wario is the computer opponent.
Least is Mr. Game and Watch. Though I really haven't played as Jigglypuff either.
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Wario, Luigi, Mr.Game and Watch, Toon Link
Everyone says that it's annoying to fight Wario when he's a computer. I dont get why I mean ive played against his computer form alot of times but I dont see whats so annoying about it.
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I still don't have a "Main" as people still like to call it.
But after a week of owning the game, my strongest character is still Yoshi. I also like to use Olimar, Fox, and Wolf a lot.
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I still think he wasn't the best idea, characterwise, but I've actually liked R.O.B. lately.
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King Dedede (as I predicted so long ago), but I've also come to like Pit for his excellent recoveries and reflection moves.
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Most effective characters so far: Sonic, Captain Falcon, Kirby, Pikachu and Luigi.
I haven't unlocked Jigglypuff yet, though...and I killed with him in Melee.
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How do you know Jigglypuff is male? They never stated it in Melee, nor Pikachu. It seems they're intentionally avoiding third person pronouns for them.
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First, I thought it was going to be Link, like in Melee. But I stink with him and I changed to Meta Knight for a few days. Now I changed to Toon Link, and hopefully I'll stay. My secondary main is Captain Falcon, like in my late Melee days.
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Who makes those little sprites, anyway? I've seen them in all kinds of signatures at the Brawl Central forums.
How do you know Jigglypuff is male? They never stated it in Melee, nor Pikachu. It seems they're intentionally avoiding third person pronouns for them.
I refer to Pikachu as a "he" and Jigglypuff as a "she". Pikachu's just hardcore like that.
Okay, here's who I tend to use:
-R.O.B.
-Link
-Young Link
-Diddy Kong
-Mario
-(Sometimes) Wolf (so-so moves and bad character idea, but cool taunts).
-(Occasionally) Snake
-(Here and there,) Mr. Game and Watch
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As I recall from my pretty much nonexistent Pokemon knowledge, Jigglypuff is an "it" and Pichu (and thus Pikachu?) is male.
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One can cite the differences between the sprites of male and female Pikachu in Diamond and Pearl as evidence that the one in Smash is indeed male--there is no indent at his tail's end.
In the games, 25% of wild Jigglypuff are male and 75% are female, so it's likely that Jigglypuff is female. The Jigglypuff in the Smash series is also alternately colored, with green eyes instead of blue.
I believe that male trainers always receive male starters (I always get male starters, anyway), but how RED got all three is open for interpretation. None of his Pokémon have visible gender differences as far as I know.
I don't care about Lucario.
-Toon Link
Fixed. :D
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Whether you care about him or not, the Lucario in Brawl is clearly male.
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^ Well, duh.
Oh, and throw Ike on that list of mine while you're at it. Pwnage 3rd jump.
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Not really. Aether just sends him back down, so it's not useful unless you're near the ledge.
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My Mains:
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I believe that male trainers always receive male starters (I always get male starters, anyway)
I used to think that too until I did some research after Diamond/Pearl hit. Your character's sex doesn't matter; it's just that female starters are pretty rare, presumedly to make breeding starters harder.
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Not really. Aether just sends him back down, so it's not useful unless you're near the ledge.
I meant more for attacking, but you're still right.
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I've been using Toon Link recently
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just curious 'bout who you people play as in smash bros brawl. I play as Olimar by the way, dun know why.
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I play as Marth, because my old main lost a bet.
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Since this thread was combined just moments after I posted, I'll edit this post.
There.
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I had used to main Marth in Melee, but wanted to main Zelda. And I was certainly no slouch with her either, but Marth was just so much better than her in Melee, however, so if I was gunning to win I'd be picking Marth..
Though with Brawl, Zelda's much improved. And so, I can happily declare Zelda is my main in Brawl.
Still not bad with Marth (As he's largely unchanged), but Zelda's probably my best at this point.
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I 'm good with a lot of characters, but my main man is Mario. I'm AWESOME with that guy, if you ask me.
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Lucas/Sonic/Ness/Lucario.
I gotta pick one.
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I like to main the random button.
I was training for a tournament with Pit, but I didn't really like him since he doesn't have a ton of attack moves. I can't do much with his up-B or down-B. Or his standard B for that matter. But he was my favorite of the starters.
Then I unlocked Falco and have been training with him ever since. After the tournament I will be randoming a lot more, but as of now I'm playing against level 9s as Falco and randoming online against friends.
I don't have everyone unlocked yet.
bobman37 Best Characters
Falco
Pit
Fox
Kirby
R.O.B.
bobman37 Worst Characters
Bowser
Olimar
King DeDeDe
Yoshi
Link
Samus
Ness/Lucas
Donkey Kong
Bowser
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Jim's Current list:
Toon Link
Ice Climbers (Yup, they're back in my favor. Double Ledge Hang FTW)
Snake/Dedede
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Yeah mine's changed too.
Lucas: An absolutely amazing character. Special moves may be stolen from Ness, but the extra effects they have make him infinitely better. Also his smash attacks aren't useless like Ness'. Up + A ftw.
Samus/Zero Suit Samus: Neither of them are powerful enough to take down opponents alone, so my strategy involves juggling both inbetween beatings (ZS Samus) and KOs (Samus).
Diddy Kong: I love this guy. People say he sucks, but they can all jump in a lake. His facerape attack rules and his Rocketbarrel Boost has great recovery.
Mario: In the middle of all my mains is the balanced one. He's the same as ever, except his Down B move sucks.
Falco: I hated how much they changed him from Melee, but after some practice, he's even better than before.
Olimar: He's great but all his best attacks rely on having all your Pikmin present, which makes using him a gamble everytime.
Marth: Relatively the same as his Melee incarnation, but he feels way weaker, and his Side B no longer helps him recover. At least it's even easier to combo now.
The ones who I rarely or never use are Zelda, King Dedede, R.O.B., Snake and Pit.
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Also his smash attacks aren't useless like Ness'.
You must still be thinking Melee.
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I like Snake, because he's medium speed and very powerful, albeit tricky to use.
Diddy Kong because he's got some wicked attacks, useful specials, a useful final smash, and he's a decent speed.
Toon Link because he combines the feel of Link with a lighter, faster character.
And Pit because his recovery is unparalleled and he has wicked awesome attacks.
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I beat the SSE and unlocked more characters. New list of best characters:
Falco: I love his spike.
Fox: Doesn't have as good a spike as Falco but is way faster.
Toon Link: Awesome because he's got Link's moves but is way faster. And his aerial down-A is way better than Link's.
Kirby: I don't normally like the "floaty" characters but Kirby is just fast enough so it doesn't bother me.
Captain Falcon: ...I like the speedy characters.
Pit: Like I said earlier, not a ton of moves to work with, but almost all of his standard attacks rock.
Ike: Slow but I owned the computer multiple times in a row with his sick moves (up-B and charged side-B FTW)
Worst characters:
Link
Ness/Lucas
Sonic: ...but not that speedy. I can't figure out how to use any of his specials, and he's just way too fast for most of those small stages.
Yoshi
Samus
Bowser
Olimar
And more, but I can't think of them at the moment.
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Peach and Pit!
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Favorite Characters:
Wolf
Ganondorf
Falco
Toon Link
Loneliest Characters:
Pikachu
Link
Jigglypuff
Marth
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Best 3:
1. Luigi
2. Game and Watch
3. Sonic
Worst 3:
1. Zero Suit Samus
2. Ness
3. Toon Link
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My main character in Super Smash Bros. Brawl is Ike.
With his giant sword and devil-may-cry attitude, Ike is the baddest brawler this side of the Wii. He even wields the power of fire, you can't mess with that. You can't even touch that. When Ike swings his sword everyone in sight cringes and probably soils themselves, he's that awesome. And don't get me started on Aether, the greatest move ever invented; not only can he swing that bad mother of a sword with the power of Thor, but he can throw that nasty thing like it's a small tree branch. Ike is the greatest, all other characters are a waste of time. I even refuse to use them in solo game play modes to get their trophies, that's how pitiful Ike makes them in his massive wake. He's strong, handsome and fights for his friends.
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Ike.
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Well, it's often considered alright to use masculine pronouns when something is unknown. I'm not sure why, but "he" can be used for neutal or unknown gender,
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What happened to Sonic, TEM?
Since I last posted here, Yoshi has climbed up above Wario, who is now my third.
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and fights for his friends.
Hey that's not true! Ike never fought for his friends! He was never like that in the FE game. All he flighted for was to avenge his fathers death, he was never like that. I don't even know why they made him say "I fight for my friends" he never did, (Sakurai just doesn't know Fire Emblem and just added him because he was in that really recent game, Path of Radiance, which came out in I think 2005) he is more of a loner. Oh and, the move "Aether" wasn't even called Aether. It was something else but the name escapes me now.
His sword is called the Ragnell. which is about 60 pounds.
And why does everyone hate Lucas? I think he's pretty cool (Even though I haven't played Mother 3) What's so bad about him? Am I missing something because I don't get why Lucas is so hated.
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He just isn't as good as Ness, that's all.
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I hate Lucas because I suck with him. I hate Ness too for the same reason.
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Why does this thread's title have no apostrophe? I demand proper punctuation!
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Oh and, the move "Aether" wasn't even called Aether. It was something else but the name escapes me now
In PoR, Aether was a special ability that only Ike could use that let him attack 5 times in one turn. The animation did include his Up-B type attack though. The ability was Ike's only saving grace, since he was as average as any fighter could possibly be without any awesome strength like in Brawl.
And why does everyone hate Lucas? I think he's pretty cool (Even though I haven't played Mother 3) What's so bad about him? Am I missing something because I don't get why Lucas is so hated.
Have you read any other places besides this one? The popular opinion puts Lucas above Ness because of his PK Thunder attack that hits multiple times, his Neutral B that's better than PK Flash, and his Smash Attacks outshine Ness' in every regard.
Also, he doesn't speak engrish which rules.
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Yeah, Ness's "PEEEEEKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY STAH-SOOOOOOOOOOOOORM!" cry is far superior to Lucas's.
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Ah yes, PK Starstorm, Lucas' and Ness' only saving grace...
I'm serious. I suck with Lucas and Ness, and I can't help but think anyone who says they are good with Lucas and Ness are joking.
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I'm actually quite good with Ness/Lucas.
May I remind everybody that the title has no spoiler warning, so use spoiler text.
My mains:
Mario,Luigi,R.O.B,Snake,Shiek (better with shiek than Zelda),Sonic,Captain Falcon,Meta Knight, Toon Link,Wario.
My not goods:
King DeDeDe
Zelda
Donkey Kong
Diddy Kong
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Ness is pretty awesome in SSBB, unlike in SSBM. And he has a better PK Starstorm.
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Yes, yes, spoiler tags for something EVERYBODY KNOWS are just annoying, hmmmmm?
Ness, quite like any other character, rocks pretty hard when you know how to use him. I am good with Ness.
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Not everybody knows every character in Brawl. Its been out for only 2 months.
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And do you think that the kind of people who don't are the kind of people who'd be here? Or would care?
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Or, they could live in a place where it's not out yet. One could say that it's that person's fault for clicking on the topic, but another person could make the rebuttal that some topics are somewhat ambiguous in their titling (eg: this one). But nevertheless, I agree with Bird Person; most people would know by now, even if they don't have the game. But I think censoring characters like Captain Falcon are the most blatantly unncessary- returning characters would be known anyway, especially the blatantly obvious returners such as Falcon, Jigglypuff, Ness and Luigi.
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Still. The kinds of people who don't know all the hidden characters, I imagine, are
1. People who just don't play Nintendo (at least not very much). Spiteful or not, non-Nintendo gamers can't be expected to know Wolf's in the game.
2. Amish
3. My parents
4. Little kids with parents who haven't gotten them Wiis yet, and can't use the Internets
5. Non-gamers
I just can't imagine anyone who would use the Internet not hitting these so-called spoilers in the first place. 'Sright: I don't see how Mr. Game & Watch being in the game is a spoiler. If you went right ahead and said a group of Mr. Game & Watches pilots the Halberd while it spews Shadowbugs everywhere (and the Shadowbugs are those purple clouds Primids come from that is actually extracted from Mr. Game & Watch's body) and most of them get blasted out of it and turn into a boss which Snake kills and Mr. Game & Watch joins the party, spoiling part of the Subspace Emissary, then maybe.
But you'd really have to completely avoid any Brawl-related discussion, period, to avoid knowledge of hidden characters. Not just on the Internet--in real life, too. Have friends? Can't talk to 'em. They want you to play the game with them? NO WAY, they have hidden characters (that you can unlock in a day or two if you're fast).
Conclusion: Either you don't care about "spoilers," you already know, or both.
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Update: Lucas and Ness aren't bad after training against a level 7 CPU for an hour (Lucas being slightly more user-friendly).
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Mario, and probably Snake. Don't ask me, for some reason, I like Snake, and I've never played Metal Gear.
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Since my last comment about becoming better with Yoshi than with Wario, I've found that I actually do better against other people as Wario than with Yoshi! The bike! The grab, down throw, grab, down throw, grab, down throw Ness and Wario are capable of, but Yoshi isn't! I would prefer the order Ness-Yoshi-Wario, so I'd better do some Yoshi training...
And I still pay attention to Pikachu. Though I never mention him, Lucas is pretty good for me, too. I honestly switch out characters in Brawl far more often than I ever did in Melee, and wish I could maintain even more...
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My best fighter is ROB.
Pokemon Trainer and Olimar are second and third.
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Mario, and probably Snake. Don't ask me, for some reason, I like Snake, and I've never played Metal Gear.
Snake is cool and Uber-Powerful; I KO'ed Peach, Luigi, Bowser, and Mario all with his side smash in All-Star and didn't have to move an inch.
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I have reason to believe that All-Star enemies have a lower damage tolerance than normal, depending on what difficulty you were playing. Probably easy or normal.
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I never thought of that... but Snake is still Uber-Powerful.
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I switch off with Luigi and Ness. Every now and then I like to use Toon Link.
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My friend owns me with Toon Link. It's annoying, because I'm terrible with any Link incarnation.
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Link just isn't maneuverable enough for me.
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Exactly! He sloppily executes normally simple moves/movements. I guess if someone practiced with him a lot, he could be decent, though.
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Sir: Are you still in the mentality that some characters are better than others? You guess if someone practiced with him, they could get good at him? Well, duh... you think any character can just be picked up and played? Nope. All characters need time and practice. Even those with an easy learning curve.
Everyone is different. You may suck as Link. For someone else, he may just be perfect. I suck as Ganondorf, for instance. But he is a great character. I know, because a friend of mine really lets Ganondorf live up to the title, "The King of Evil."
But, believing every character really takes time and practice to be good for a player, I don't think the method of trying every character and using the one that yields the best results is the best way. Whatever you want to do to get started, using Kirby because you got three KOs with him the first time you tried him, using Yoshi because he's one of your favorite video game characters, or using Ike because Chupperson told you he was the best... I don't care. Except for that last one.
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Whoa. I looked back on a thread about predicting the name of the SSB game after Meele, and somebody got it right (http://themushroomkingdom.net/board/index.php?topic=7504.msg374793#msg374793). This was in 2005, mind you.
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Sir: (1)Are you still in the mentality that some characters are better than others? You guess if someone practiced with him, they could get good at him? (2)Well, duh... you think any character can just be picked up and played? Nope. All characters need time and practice. Even those with an easy learning curve.
Everyone is different. You may suck as Link. For someone else, he may just be perfect. I suck as Ganondorf, for instance. But he is a great character. I know, because a friend of mine really lets Ganondorf live up to the title, "The King of Evil."
But, believing every character really takes time and practice to be good for a player, I don't think the method of trying every character and using the one that yields the best results is the best way. Whatever you want to do to get started, using Kirby because you got three KOs with him the first time you tried him, using Yoshi because he's one of your favorite video game characters, or using Ike because Chupperson told you he was the best... I don't care. (3)Except for that last one.
1. Yes.
2. Yes, I would definitely say that some characters require little to no practice to be good with.
3. I lol'd.
I'm not saying that different people can't be good with different characters. A better character is a matter of opinion.
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2. Yes, I would definitely say that some characters require little to no practice to be good with.
You must have one strange definition of "good".
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I would definitely say that some characters require little to no practice to be good with.
How's that working out for you?
My friend owns me with Toon Link.
Oh, I see.
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A few days ago I totally got served by some Melee veterans who wavedashed and move-cancelled like crazy. After they said that Brawl sucks because the gameplay mechanics are too dumbed down (plus, Brawl has no wavedashing), that makes me want to play Brawl more. I thought I was somewhat good at Melee, but... wow, no, I'm an amateur compared to them. Suddenly, beating all 50 event matches looks like a piece of cake with those moves.
Sometimes I wonder whether it's cheating to use moves like that that exploit the game. I admit it seems to elevate them to professional status when they use it well. The matches I saw, with all the close calls and seemingly-impossible recoveries was a sight to behold.
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How's that working out for you?
First time I had ever played Melee I was at a friend's place. He had had the game for a year. Playing as Kirby, I thrashed him and a few level 7 CPUs. I think that would qualify as good.
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I thought I responded to this, but I guess I didn't, because I didn't see any responses by me when searching for it.
My mains are:
Pit
Pokémon Trainer (Squirtle)
R.O.B.
and sometimes Mario.
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Whoa. I looked back on a thread about predicting the name of the SSB game after Meele, and somebody got it right (http://themushroomkingdom.net/board/index.php?topic=7504.msg374793#msg374793). This was in 2005, mind you.
I'm just pretending here, but what if Sakurai-san was told/looking about/at the forums and he used that name?
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Kind of like if JK Rowling visited Harry Potter rumor boards under a pseudonym.
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So far I've only really played Brawl once, and only for a short time, but I already know that my main main will continue to be Yoshi. I don't know which new characters I'll play as yet, but I'll probably keep using Peach, Ice Climbers, and Kirby a lot.
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Peach is alright except for her forehead-clutchingly worthless final smash.
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I spectated some real intense matches where Peach won. I was impressed, but I lost coins for thinking somebody else would win.
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Peach's Final Smash is good.
Someone without ground below them? Instantly dead.
Someone with percent around 50% or higher? Instantly dead.
I think hers is better than all the insta-kill-one-person-if-you-hit-them-with-the-one-slash ones.
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After intense examination, I'd say Marth's final smash is the best, but only barely.
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Lucario's Final Smash is funny when he's tiny.
"Watchthepowerofaura!"
As for the most effective, I would say perhaps Cook Kirby. It's almost guaranteed to hit, and you can use its effects to get back to 0% damage if need be.
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Ness and Lucas obviously have the best Final Smash. It usually kills all other players and you don't have to do any controlling.
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Ah, I forgot about Ness and Lucas.
If it weren't for his somewhat mediocre Final Smash, Mr. G&W would be nearly unbeatable.
Likewise, Sonic's Final Smash, other than his speed doesn't match his mediocre Special Moves.
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Someone without ground below them? Instantly dead.
Not necessarily. You don't fall asleep if you're airborne.
If it weren't for his somewhat mediocre Final Smash, Mr. G&W would be nearly unbeatable.
Once again, no. One day when I have cable and can Brawl on Wi-Fi, I will make you cry.
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Lucas' PK Starstorm is not nearly as effective as Ness', and I haven't seen it kill all other players once. Especially humans. I can avoid it most of the time.
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LD must have been joking about Starstorm being good. Easiest smash to avoid ever. And I'd say G&W has one of the better smash attacks.
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Mario Finale and Zero Laser are probably the easiest to avoid, because you just have to stay on one side of them, and it's easy to see coming.
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That would be due to the user's foolish placement and/or timing.
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After intense examination, I'd say Marth's final smash is the best, but only barely.
You can't miss with Peach's Final Smash. lol
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You don't fall asleep if you're airborne.
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You can't miss with Peach's Final Smash. lol
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Sounds like TEM doesn't like Peach very much... Or he just doesn't like no-miss Final Smashes.
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He was making fun of me for poor execution of Marth's final smash last night, homeslice.
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Oooh... now I get it. So are you a sore loser, or do you have anger management issues, or did he really just make you mad? Lol.
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Hey, listen, hey, listen, look, hey, listen, hey, hey, listen, hey
You don't fall asleep if you're airborne.
Peach's Final Smash never gets me.
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What, do you always play as Pit? How do you stay in the air that long? Or does the move only affect those who are on the ground at the moment of its execution?
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My favorite characters have good jumping ability and are fairly floaty, so, yeah, I don't know exactly when it hits. I kind of know what I'm doing and don't need an easy-to-use jump to avoid it.
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I either like floaty characters or balanced characters. Never slow/heavy characters.
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I like the fast ones.
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Yeah, Sonic and Fox are decent in a fight.
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I like to use Sonic, sometimes. Fox is alright.
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ughhhh I hate Olimar. Don't get me wrong, Pikmin was a great game, and Olimar is an innovative character to Brawl. But I have to say I don't like him very much at all.
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Nope. They didn't do him justice.
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I've seen people that can kick butt with Olimar.
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I managed to get 9 KOs in Cruel Brawl with Olimar.
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There's no use talking to him, so save the energy in your typing fingers.
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There is too use talking to me... Just no use in expecting a satisfactory [to Bird Person] reply.
And just because I don't think he's any good doesn't mean no one else can. That's what this board is for: stating our opinions.
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But you often act like that if a character isn't good for your tastes, that no one else can use them. And that's where people get annoyed.
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SSB is just like anything else in that people have different tastes. I'm sure some people out there like to dress up their silverware in cute little cardigan sweaters, but that doesn't mean I would want to. In fact, I wouldn't want to do that at all.
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SSB is just like anything else in that people have different tastes. I'm sure some people out there like to dress up their silverware in cute little cardigan sweaters, but that doesn't mean I would want to. In fact, I wouldn't want to do that at all.
Post of the Year.