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Miscellaneous => General Chat => Not at the Dinner Table => Topic started by: Jman on April 14, 2010, 02:51:01 PM
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Anybody up for some Political Correctness talk? Living in Fargo (going to college at NDSU), I have been hearing about political correctness rearing it's ugly head (only my opinion) in the form of UND being forced to retire the "Fighting Sioux" nickname, as it is offensive to indians, apparently. I am not an indian, so I wouldn't know. I wonder how much longer it'll take until the NFL's Redskins have to change their name?
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The term "Indians" is offensive towards North America's First Nations peoples, you hatemongering bigot. Your racial insensitivity makes Iron Eyes Cody sad.
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Actually, I've heard it argued that they've been called Indians for so long now that to not call them Indians deprives them of their cultural heritage.
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I love how those "don't use the word 'gay' in a negative sense" ads tell you not to use the word "gay" unless you refer to its "original" meaning. Because "gay" has always been a common synonym for "homosexual."
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I don't think you can definitively prove that. Especially trying to date it back to the 1530s or so.
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The University of Illinois had to retire its mascot Chief Illiniwek a few years back due to proponents of political correctness.
I also hate political correctness because it leads to horrible constructs like "his or her," "his/her," and the especially-disgusting "hir."
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I am still in full favor of "their" because that's what my mind says in the first place anyway.
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I wonder how much longer it'll take until the NFL's Redskins have to change their name?
That should've already happened, in my opinion.
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I thought "hir" was only for hermaphrodites. In general I say he/she or "he or she", but that becomes cumbersome when I have to say it frequently, and it's grammatically incorrect to say "they" when referring to one person. It was suggested once to just use one pronoun, and then switch it out for the other occasionally throughout the passage, but that strikes me as odd.
Also, I thought the original meaning of "gay" was "happy" and that it didn't become a term for homosexual until later. Either that or that one line in the Flintstones theme song always had that double entendre.
The main reason I don't like political correctness is because it means I have to learn about the new "correct" terms to call people. I don't know what to call black people, I usually say African-American. I don't know the difference between Hispanic and Latino (I know you don't say Mexicans though. Normally I'd say "you don't identify people by the state they live in", in that you don't usually hear of Washingtonians, but that would extend to countries and we certainly hear of "Germans" and "Russians" and... maybe Norwegians... but I guess those too might be incorrect, just say "people from Germany" or "people from Russia". I think Mexico's also known as Latin-America, so I think I side with the term Latin-Americans... I'll just say Latino. Maybe Hispanic would be for those that live in Spain). And I'm too lazy to go onto a website to learn the correct terms, partly because I feel the situations where I do need to know this stuff are rare.
What it comes down to is, I don't want to learn new words to demonstrate I'm using words without the intent to harm or categorize someone. I'm not excluding anyone on purpose by saying only "he" or "she", for instance.
And for the record, I say Native Americans instead of Indians. This despite my favorite elementary school book, "The Trumpet of the Swan", still has Sam Beaver walking like an "Indian" which strikes me as stereotypical today. But you know, yeah, past literature/movies/whatever get a free pass on this PC thing. They get to say whatever old now-racist terms they want, you might get a little disclaimer at the beginning. "Blazing Saddles" used the n-word a LOT, but that doesn't seem to damper anyone's feelings on it as being a hilarious film. When shown on TV today, it usually mutes out all such words.
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Actually dude
The black people I know use the word "black".
The Mexicans I know use the word "Mexican" and at least one guy I know has this pretty cool shirt informing all the white people that "latino" and "hispanic" are incorrect and the reasons why they are, and saying don't use those, use Mexican instead.
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Here's what I call people:
Black
White
Asian
Hispanic (although I say Latina when talking to the female types, it sounds sexier)
Canadian
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My typical ethnic classifications include:
-Black
-White
-Asian
-Hispanic
-Arab
-Foxmccloudfan
-Native (AKA Indian)
-Gay
Canadian
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"hir."
wut.
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Ugh. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender-neutral_pronoun)
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Nice. :P
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People joke too much about Canada. But then, I've only been up in Victoria B.C. which is like the USA but with the metric system and different money. I heard you don't really get the Canadian experience until you move even further north. Why have I heard relatively few jokes about New Jersey?
Fry: "Well, I give up. What's the catch?"
Man: "Oh, no catch. Although we are technically in New Jersey."
Fry: "Not one place even remotely liveable."
By the way, technically it's "Canada goose", not "Canadian goose".