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Video Games => Mario Chat => Topic started by: SushieBoy on June 26, 2006, 12:05:24 AM
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What do you think are the worst moments in Mario history?I'll be short by saying four things.
1.Mario Movie,this thing deeply disapointed me bacause..Luigi had no mustache,the Bros. rescue daisy,instead of peach,bowser and the goombas should have been computerized.And It would had been better if it was animated.
2.Mario Is Missing!,do I need to explain?
3.Mario Party,this game was unfair and had stupid minigames.
4.Super Mario Kart,would have been better with a joystick.
What do you think?
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What do you think are the worst moments in Mario history?I'll be short by saying four things.
4.Super Mario Kart,would have been better with a joystick.
What do you think?
I think you are dead to MEGAߥTE. Also, the worst moment in Mario history was... when Mr. Miyamoto was promoted to Producer, I believe.
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4.Super Mario Kart,would have been better with a joystick.
You don't need a joystick to enjoy Mario Kart. The DS doesn't have a joystick, but Mario Kart DS is perhaps one of the best Mario Karts ever. Heck. ALL Mario Karts are great. In conclusion, you phail, SushieBoy.
I agree with you that the movie was one of the worst moments. The only thing that movie had going was that Luigi had a love interest in Daisy.
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Hey, guys, I heard that there's certain video games that you HAVE to like, no matter what, or everyone disparages everything you say. No, really. Opinions? Pffffffffft.
Ok, back on topic... I'd say that the decision to make more Mario Party games after the third was kind of pointless. I just completely lost interest in the series after #3.
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-The inclusion of DKC stuff in the spinoffs.
-The introduction of Bowser Jr. in SMS.
-Yoshi's Topsy-Turvy
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(I hate Bowser Jr. Wht is he even in the games?) Anyway, SMS was not all that great, as pathetic characters such as Pianta and BJr. were introduced. The game itself was okay, but the characters were not! And what kind of plot is "Peach getting kidnapped and Bowser Jr. thinking she's his mom?" He's so stupid to think that for one second Peach would ever (insert dirty comment here) with Bowser! Truly, this was a dark time for Mario.
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Believe me, PL. The movie was a much darker time for the Mario franchise. I saw parts of the it, and I almost died of disgust when I saw what they did to my favorite character (Yoshi).
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I saw the whole thing. It makes me wish they had dubbed the anime movie and released that here instead.
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Too bad anime didn't become super popular in the US till the late '90s. That anime movie wasn't 100% accurate to the games, but it was a lot more accurate and bearable than the live-action crap we got. The fans who live in Japan are so spoiled. :( I have envy!!
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Believe me, PL. The movie was a much darker time for the Mario franchise. I saw parts of the it, and I almost died of disgust when I saw what they did to my favorite character (Yoshi).
For some, yes. I for one loved the movie.
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Mario Bros. because there was no music.
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You've gotta be kidding.
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Well, I think thats a ligitament reason enough not to be considered Worst Moments In Mario History.
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The movie
Super Mario Bros. 2 USA
Donkey Kong Country
The endless stream of Mario Party games (who buys more than just one?)
Waluigi
Bowser Jr.
All the Mario sports games announced/released the past year
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What's wrong wirh Super Mario Usa?
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Or Donkey Kong Country, for that matter?
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Mario USA wasn't the Super Mario Bros 2 that anyone expected or wanted. Donkey Kong Country was a bland and thoroughly mediocre game that did a lot of damage to the series.
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I'm trying to figure out why so many people freak out at Yoshi Topsy Turvy, it was a good, fun, and innovative game, it was the first (I think.) motion censor platform game that was not Wario Ware.
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It's way too difficult but hey, that's just me!
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Yoshi's Story.
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Excluding Mario is Missing, which never even became a mainstream game in the first place, I really don't see any true failures in the mario franchise at all.
A few parts have been run into the ground like MP and the Sports series, but they're not bad games.
The Movie was a bit strange and nothing like the games, but how do you think they could've made a movie about a series that was still in its adolesence and was not an Adventure game. Games with huge stories like Zelda, MGS, RE, etc. make good movies because of the stories in-game, mario only had "save the princess because she's kidnapped."
Anyway, in the cinematic world today, that movie could be passed of as... Artistic. Like Kill Bill or Sin City.
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When they renamed the revolution to wii. I practically peuked.
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The Mario movie was alright. I'm not too picky about the mistakes in it.
The Gamecube controllers color scheme
Waluigi and his lack of being in a real game
Being able to see the texture pixels in SM64DS
The Gameboy mini or whatever it's called
The makers of Bowser Jr. for being too lazy to make an original design for him and posed off baby Bowser's.
The DS's lack of a joystick
The NES's music
MKDD's multi player modes
The shine sprite collecting in Sunshine being a burden rather than a challenge
The Mario Karts after 64 except for MKDD
All the hearts and kiddy stuff in Yoshi's Story
Playing on those tiny Gameboy screens
The brighter colors in the recent Gameboys ( things look like they're glowing radioactivly at night wth? )
Giving the Revolution a dumb name when the first was perfect
The Gamecube not being able to play normal sized CD's
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Mario USA wasn't the Super Mario Bros 2 that anyone expected or wanted. Donkey Kong Country was a bland and thoroughly mediocre game that did a lot of damage to the series.
Man, I think Mario USA beat the crap outta the original 2. It was fun to play as the other two (Peach and Toad, even though I don't like Peach too much) and Mario and Luigi had awesome new powers (Like Luigi's jumping strength).
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Donkey Kong Country was a bland and thoroughly mediocre game that did a lot of damage to the series.
Yeah, because Donkey Kong was such a hot property before DKC. And you know, huge world-wide sales really hurt the series too. Jeez, Miyamoto says a couple bad things about the game and everybody jumps ship.
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The NES's music
You die now.
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You die now.
Quoted for troof. I disagree with pretty much everything Yoshimastar said except the Waluigi and Bowser Jr. stuff.
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When they renamed the revolution to wii. I practically peuked.
This about Mario history.
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Being able to see the texture pixels in SM64DS
The Gameboy mini or whatever it's called
The DS's lack of a joystick
The NES's music
The Mario Karts after 64 except for MKDD
Playing on those tiny Gameboy screens
The brighter colors in the recent Gameboys ( things look like they're glowing radioactivly at night wth? )
Giving the Revolution a dumb name when the first was perfect
There are a few things wrong with the selected things I quoted. I'll start:
1. The DS does not have the graphical power to make things un-pixeled looking.
2. GBM was a remake of the GameBoy Advance SP, Nintendo was aiming for a more portable, better, different GameBoy, and of course, those cost some good things.
3. NES has that kind of music only because technology back then was bad, Nintendo took what they had, and made the best out of it.
4. MKDS is awesome. >:(
5. Oh boy ..... let's see, um does portable come to your mind when you think GameBoy?
6. Glowing in the dark is cool. >:(
7. Nintendo gave a good reason to rename, and the Revolution was a beta test name, like Dolphin.
That is all.
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most of what yoshimastar siad had noyhing to do with mario.And whatever happened to the Gameboy Miicro?I haven't seen It in stores!Or any of the games!
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Gameboy Micro games are just GBA games.
A bad moment in Mario history was when they didn't have enough time to put Luigi in SM64. >:(
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The Game Boy Micro is found easily. Why, I just saw a few in Target the other day while I was buying ML: PiT.
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I have the famicom one :P.
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It's been a decade since the N64, graphics should be a tad better. Or at least not worse.
You can practically hear the pixels in the NES games.
After 5 remakes it wouldn't kill Nintendo to make the screens a little bit bigger.
There's absolutly no reason for a smaller Gameboy. Unless emos need it to have it fit in their pant pockets.
Amd I am currently laughing at you for disagreeing with my opinions. This is a Mario forum. It's not politics kids.
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I think the way the characters, enemies, places, colors are all better in the Mario 64 remake. I have never been a big fan of the game, and I prefer SMS far more then SM64. As for Bowser Jr. he is fine, but unnecessary. They should have just kept the original Koopalings! (We had nothing againts them!) What is the big hoopla over the Wii's name? I like it because it has some meaning to it rather than the word Nintendo and them some numbers.
NES--Good name for starters.
SNES--Slightly better then the NES, so the name was good.
Nintendo 64--Doesn't really mean a lot. Why put the numbers in? It makes it sound like a prototype or something.
GameCube--You can play games and it is shaped like a cube.
Wii-Designed with everyone in mind so appropriatly named.
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It's been a decade since the N64, graphics should be a tad better. Or at least not worse.
Umm... have you SEEN what the Xbox 360, Wii and PS3 are capable of? I'm pretty sure the graphics are getting better. I don't really get the point you're trying to make.
You can practically hear the pixels in the NES games.
And it still looked about a lot better than the other systems at the time, and it came out in 1985 for God's sake. And I'd much rather play a game that's fun and ugly than one that looks good but sucks. Gameplay over graphics, kid.
After 5 remakes it wouldn't kill Nintendo to make the screens a little bit bigger.
I want my Gameboy's portable, not minature TV sets. Go buy a PSP if you want a huge, easy to break screen.
There's absolutly no reason for a smaller Gameboy. Unless emos need it to have it fit in their pant pockets.
The reason for a smaller Gameboy is to attract casual gamers that don't already own one, and want to be able to game on the go without carrying a bulkier handheld around. So yeah, I guess it's for "emos" to have it comfortably fit in their pockets. Becuase apparently the only people that want Gameboys listen to Dashboard Confessional and have long hair...
Amd I am currently laughing at you for disagreeing with my opinions. This is a Mario forum. It's not politics kids.
So... since we're not talking politics, I have to agree with all your opinions? Hmm.... that's at least mildly retarded.
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Has anyone mentioned Mario Teaches Typing yet?
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fuzzy,I think the 64 was added because of the 64 bit graphics,just like the XBox 360.
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fuzzy,I think the 64 was added because of the 64 bit graphics,just like the XBox 360.
Someone with a sassy spirit needs to sig this. It's the real deal.
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Has anyone mentioned Mario Teaches Typing yet?
I actually have this game. >.>
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Has it improved your typing?
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!!!!???? mario teaches typing that is sad
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Coming from the guy who puts no periods at the end of his sentences.
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........... there
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..........there.
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happy?
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I don't believe "there" is a sentence................
Also, do you know how to edit your post? You double posted right there.
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BACK ON TOPIC!!!!
I think the worst moments in Mario History was the movie and cartoon. They didn't really play a part to the Mario series. The Super Mario Bros. Movie was so bad.
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Also, do you know how to edit your post? You double posted right there.
no i didnt one hade a period at the end the other one didnt.
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You still aren't supposed to make two posts in a row.
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fuzzy,I think the 64 was added because of the 64 bit graphics,just like the XBox 360.
I know that was why it was added. But this is my point exactly! Not a very creative name there.
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From what I've heard, it was originally gonna be called Ultra 64, but there was another game company that used Ultra in their game titles at the time, or something like that.
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... You know what I think one of the worst moments in recent Mario history was? The moment when some guy suddenly had the ingenuise idea of making Petey Pirahna a major character in the sporting titles. Seriously. Leave the plant alone, nobody likes him anywho.
o.o Okay, that may have been a little harsh, but whatever.
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I happen to like him, but you're right about him being playable in the spinoffs.
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I like him... but maybe that's just because he was in the same game as Bowser Jr. and he looks good by comparison.
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I like him... but maybe that's just because he was in the same game as Bowser Jr. and he looks good by comparison.
Lol. Bleh, sorry if I offended you ( and same to The Chef). I know it's never exactly enjoyable to have one of your better-liked characters bashed. And you know, I agree - he's a good character and a good boss. But once the sporting-mayhem began, he was doomed. Just like poor ol' King Boo.
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Why can't they be in sporting games?
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Why can't they be in sporting games?
o____x I never said that they couldn't be in sporting games. I'm simply expressing my oppinion on the matter, which happens to be that it's a bit of overkill when you add in bosses or 'side-helper-characters' who really don't appear that much. I never said, 'They suck and can't be put in sporting games. Ever. Because I say so.'
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I know that was why it was added. But this is my point exactly! Not a very creative name there.
You're kidding, right? There's no such thing as "360-bit graphics" yet; the farthest we can go currently is 128-bit. Nothing further has been done yet. "360" is one of Microsoft's wierd symbolic things about lucid dreams and equilibrium and whatnot.
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And when you turn all the way around it's a 360 degree rotation.
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And when you turn all the way around it's a 360 degree rotation.
Yeah, that's always how I took it...
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Mario is Missing FTL.
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yay! this topic isn't a bust!
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BUMP for new members to express their opinions, and I found another bad moment.
"If you need instructions on how to get through the hotels, check out the enclosed instruction book."
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I can't believe nobody mentioned that one!
"I hope she made lotsa' spaghetti!"
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The worst moment in history was when Shigeru Miyamoto became producer? I have to disagree. He and the rest of Nintendo have continued to produce amazing, innovative games; even after he became producer. To me, he is even better as a producer.
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......I don't think......anyone has said that.
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check toward the beginning of the thread.
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Ah. Actually, I checked to see if anyone had said that, but I guess I missed it. :P
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Worst moment? I'd have to say any of the dumb Mario flash games on Newgrounds.
/me waits for people to start bashing newgrounds
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I don't think some flash game will be recorded as Mario History, but it still counts, and please, don't start to bash NG on my thread.
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Newgrounds is cool, man. If you haven't noticed, most of the flash artists are Mario fans, not haters.
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Oy. What I meant was, I was half-jokingly waiting for people to start bashing Newgrounds irrationally because, in my experience, whenever Newgrounds is brought up here, people start ranting about how they hate Newgrounds for any number of reasons. I'm not encouraging it (the bashing). Furthermore, what I meant when I brought it up in the first place was that most of the Mario flashes are weird. There.
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I like the "REAL Mushroom Kingdom" movies or whatever that's called. The story is weird, but I like how the characters' designs are based from the Paper Mario games.
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I don't think some flash game will be recorded as Mario History, but it still counts
How or why would those Flash games count? Are any of them made by Nintendo?
I think that the only things that should be considered canon are things that have come directly from (or were sponsered by) Nintendo: the games (obviously), the cartoons (again obviously), the movie (even if it was a flop), other merchandise (beanie babies, toys, manga..)
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Because if they aren't made my Nintendo why would they add it to the Mario timeline and history? Besides, big N barely makes flash games, exept just for some websites, but why make a flash game when you can make and actual game?
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Who's "they"? The flash artists? I don't think "they" have the authority to add anything to the so-called "timeline".
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Worst Moment? Three Words:
MARIO'S EARLY YEARS
And, not that it matters, Most disturbing moment?
Flurrie in PMTTYD.
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Flurrie is awesome, no matter what they say about her...........stage presence.
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Worst moments in Mario History...
1. Mario is Missing!
2. When they started making all the sports games(excluding Mario Kart, Mario Golf, and Mario Tennis)
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...you just practically listed most of the sports titles, excluding Mario Strikers, which is awesome in a SSB type of way.
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Strikers is awesome. Best Mario sports title I've ever played.
You know, games like Mario Tennis, Strikers and Kart all fall under the sports genre. In my opinion, they're some of the best titles out there.
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I honestly got bored with Mario Strikers after a while. It was cool at first, but then I was like, meh. Maybe I just don't appeal to soccer that much. I loved every other Mario sports title I've played though (except for Mario Golf: Advance Tour, which virtually had nothing to do with Mario).
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The problem with Strikers is that it had little to no refinement as opposed to the other sports games. Charged looks to fix everything that was wrong with the first one, but it's really a shame that we didn't get everything that the sequel offers the first time around.
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Super Mario Sunshine. How very disappointing compared to Super Mario 64 which was the game that got me started (sorta hence my name). I also hate Mario Superstar Baseball with a passion...
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The only thing I found disappointing about SMS were the somewhat lackluster missions. I didn't like the majority of them, and getting the blue coins was often times a pain.
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Super Mario 2: Mario Madness, as a kid, I never understood why this game was different from Mario 1, 3, and super Mario world.
But I always knew I hated it, and still do. Compared to the live action movie, it's decent, but still not worthy of being called Mario.
And how do you people not like sunshine? It was fun, not as good as 64 defiantly, but it had beautiful graphics and was fun. Just no long jump :(
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We like the gameplay of Sunshine, but we didn't care for its plotholes.
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Super Mario 2: Mario Madness, as a kid, I never understood why this game was different from Mario 1, 3, and super Mario world.
But I always knew I hated it, and still do. Compared to the live action movie, it's decent, but still not worthy of being called Mario.
You die now.
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The only good thing about SMS was the graphics IMO. The plot was horrid, the voice-acting was bad and the gameplay in general was annoying. I find it funny how "Mario has more moves than ever". Sure, he has the spin jump, but he had to give up the long jump and every non-jumping attack. Mario is pretty much helpless without FLUDD which makes those one stages a real pain.
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I still consider Super Mario Bros. to be the worst game in the series. I mean, there's no vehicles. LAME.
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Super Mario 2: Mario Madness, as a kid, I never understood why this game was different from Mario 1, 3, and super Mario world.
But I always knew I hated it, and still do. Compared to the live action movie, it's decent, but still not worthy of being called Mario.
Then explain the recurring appearances of Bob-Ombs, Pokeys, Shy Guys and Birdos please.
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Those enemies originated from SMB2, didn't they?
EDIT: Er, maybe I'm not getting your point. I'm gonna take a guess and assume that you're saying they are Mario characters because they're re-appearing in future Mario games, or that they are because they're in SMB2.
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I'm saying that SMB2 is just as much of a Mario game as the rest, as it had a significant enough impact on the future development of the series.
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It doesn't feel like a Mario game. I can replay Mario games over and over and never get tired between just Mario Bros, Mario Bros 3, and Mario 64, but I don't feel that way about Mario Bros 2. It pales in comparison, I guess would be the best way to put it, Rather than saying it isn't worthy of being called Mario, and I still think it is the worst Nintendo game to bear the Mario title.
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No, that would be either Hotel Mario or Mario is Missing!.
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Gah, you aniled me. Mario is Missing is worse, though I've never played Hotel Mario. Is that a real Nintendo game?
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Nintendo sure didn't make it. I actually think "The Wand of Gamelon" is less of a Zelda game than Hotel Mario is of a Mario game. I also have a hankerin' that you're just spiteful towards SMB2 because you're not good at it. :D
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It's true, I'm not good at it, but that's not exactly why.
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Uhh, Super Mario Sunshine virtually has the same gameplay as Super Mario 64, except for FLUDD. It's one of my favorite Mario games ever and I love about everything about it. To me, it surpasses Super Mario 64 by a lot. The missions are fun, especially the sub-levels, beautiful scenery, and great music (especially Bianco Hills).
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Yeah, I think people are exaggerating their irritation with Super Mario Sunshine. I think it was an overall great game.
I also think the music is very good--but not nearly as good as that of Super Mario 64.
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SMS had design issues (see Bob-ombs and Boos) and while FLUDD was fun to use, I could have used more unaided platforming. All in all though, SMS was quite good.
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SMS was a victim of overly high expectations and nostalgia (which has a habit of making things seem greater than they where). They developers where also burdened with the task of making a new game without alienating the legendary SM64, they did better than people give them credit for.
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Super Mario IceCapades (shudders)
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I'm surprised to see "Super Mario 64" referred to a classic so frequently. As I recall, I was one of the games few defenders when I posted here ca. 2000.
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That seems likely in my mind, but take a moment to recall what type of people were around mostly in 2000.
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Not necessarily the worst moment, but the Mario anime movie could've used a better ending. Although I'm probably just saying this as a MarioXPeach fan. Oh well, the anime movie was a LOT better than the live action thing we got, despite the ending.
I guess nowadays, the live action Mario movie could be viewed as interesting, yet grossly inaccurate (or a pile of doo-doo that should never have seen the light of day, depending on who you're asking).
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(I hate Bowser Jr. Wht is he even in the games?) Anyway, SMS was not all that great, as pathetic characters such as Pianta and BJr. were introduced. The game itself was okay, but the characters were not! And what kind of plot is "Peach getting kidnapped and Bowser Jr. thinking she's his mom?" He's so stupid to think that for one second Peach would ever (insert dirty comment here) with Bowser! Truly, this was a dark time for Mario.
I don't think so!!
Super Mario Sunshine was very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, VERY fun.
Good graphics
O.K. storyline
also good controls
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I said the game was good but the plot and characters sucked. I never said the game itself was crap.
Dude, no offense, but I said that nearly a year ago. It's not really something that needs to be discussed. I'm not trying to be rude or anything, it's great that you think SMS had a good plot, I just don't wanna talk about it. I've already done my ranting.