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TMK Stuff => Game Blog => Topic started by: David on May 13, 2008, 12:59:09 PM
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Rare and Microsoft have released a trailer for their upcoming game Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts for the Xbox 360. Near the end of the trailer, the bear and bird fly past a giant 8-bit Mario, and a few seconds later they blow the head off of it. Whether that's self-referential humor regarding the departure from Nintendo or a brazen bit of bravado, it is amusing.
Go take a look for yourself...
Source: Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts Trailer, at GameVideos.com (http://gamevideos.com/video/id/18831)
Update: The original video was edited to remove the portion where Mario is destroyed. Luckily, the guys over at The Rare Witch Project (http://www.rarewitchproject.com/?id=1650) archived the original.
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That game looks awful.
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Heresy! Blasphemy!... *watches trailer*
Oooh, explosions!
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From the looks of the video, it sure looks like the old Banjo and Kazooie I knew has been lost forever.
But the game itself doesn't look all bad, in fact it kind of looks cool! ...But I'm at a loss of what this game's genre is. It actually reminded me of GTA for a couple of seconds.
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What? Banjo is now a carjacking perv? I don't believe it.
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Wow... Microsoft... what did you do to Rare?! Those evil, heartless, son of a... Well. I died a little inside when 8-bit Mario's head exploded.
One thing though... Did Nintendo give them rights to use Mario's image in such a manner?! I mean, if not properly done, couldn't Nintendo sue Rare?
That aside, I think they're going overboard with Banjo Kazooie.... Just look what happened to Sonic.
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Because every game that involve driving vehicles and blowing stuff up is exactly the same as GTA, right? Lord, that's what I hate about those kinds of games becoming the rule rather than the exception.
Me, I think this game looks phenominal. It may not be a straight-up Banjo game, persay, but the presence of the characters is what has the game double sold on me.
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I saw a second trailer elsewhere, featuring more "traditional' BK stuff.
The first trailer just smacks of "we're trying to appeal to the stereotypical 360 crowd", though.
In five or six years, when I get a used 360, I'll make sure to try the game out.
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I didn't see anything related to Mario's head exploding. They started flying upward, there was a big Mario-built-of-blocks on a bridge... And then the next scene came.
And there was nothing related to carjacking, either! They were building stuff.
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Did you watch the end of the trailer or what?
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Wow... Microsoft... what did you do to Rare?!
NO ONE DID ANYTHING TO RARE.
You guys don't seem to recall that tons of key staff members (Ken Lobb, etc.) LEFT Rareware before the purchase by Microsoft. Rareware was declining in quality in the late N64 era.
(I've not seen the trailer, but I do plan on getting the next game in the Banjo-Kazooie series, even if it might not be as good as the other two were.)
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Like Suffix I did not see Mario's head explode. Is there a part two of this that I missed or was it edit? Can someone who saw Mario's head explode rewatch it and/or tell me where what I'm missing is?
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It looks like some new territory is being explored, which is exciting but scary at the same time. But it's probably the right thing to do, since Banjo-Kazooie is a zany series to begin with and Rare's only option is zany it further. I also liked that I saw a Mumbo Jumbo house; I like him. And robot Grunty looks pretty promising too. I heard that she still rhymes everything. The new look of Banjo and Kazooie is good move too, but for some reason it doesn't really work with the old sound (Banjo's signature "duh-huh").
Hm.
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Ah, I'm glad I'm not the only one, Luigison.
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Looks like they removed that portion! The filenames at the link now include the phrase WITHOUTMARIO.
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In this article (http://blog.wired.com/games/2008/05/hands-on-banjo.html), it says you can drive the giant Mario.
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Actually, it sounds like you can build vehicles in various shapes, meaning that Mario isn't necessarily a main inclusion, just user-created content much like the recent mushroom in Boom Blox video.
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Looks like Rare has some promising new characters, "Pimp Frog" and "35-Year-Old Unemployed Rhino Who Still Visits High School Girl's Basketball Games".
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.wired.com%2Fphotos%2Funcategorized%2F2008%2F05%2F12%2Fshowdown_town_2.jpg&hash=ca365ad4052b1e196b02733b08ecc87c)
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New Title:
"Banjo Kazooie: Pimp my Ride"
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I guess making Conker's Bad Fur Day wasn't a big enough middle finger towards Nintendo...
I was really shocked when I figured out this is some sort of weird vehicle-obsessed game. Granted, I'm sure there'll be traditional platforming, but I knew they'd screw with the formula somehow.
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Can I change my name to Pimp Frog?
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Looks like Rare has some promising new characters, "Pimp Frog" and "35-Year-Old Unemployed Rhino Who Still Visits High School Girl's Basketball Games".
Uh, those guys are Jolly Roger and Big Al from Banjo-Tooie. Do your homework next time. All you get is a 65% average for this term.
I guess making Conker's Bad Fur Day wasn't a big enough middle finger towards Nintendo...
Where the hell did it say they deliberately made the game the way they did just to **** off Nintendo!? God almighty...
I was really shocked when I figured out this is some sort of weird vehicle-obsessed game. Granted, I'm sure there'll be traditional platforming, but I knew they'd screw with the formula somehow.
They did not "screw with the formula". They never promised us Banjo 3 in the first place. They only said they were making a new Banjo game.
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Uh, those guys are Jolly Roger and Big Al from Banjo-Tooie. Do your homework next time. All you get is a 65% average for this term.
Ah muffins, I even had that game. Nonetheless, I think they'd be cooler with my names.
I'm really glad they aren't calling this game Banjo-Threeie as Grunty implied at the end of Banjo-Tooie.
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Because every game that involve driving vehicles and blowing stuff up is exactly the same as GTA, right?
Twisted Metal?
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I wanna know why Jolly Roger turned from a mayor/bartender to a pimp. XD
And on Youtube, the Mario part is still intact.
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Twisted Metal?
^ Fun game. I keep hoping they'll come out with a good sequel for one of the next-gen consoles.
I wanna know why Jolly Roger turned from a mayor/bartender to a pimp. XD
And on Youtube, the Mario part is still intact.
Really? Interesting.
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Not that interesting. The video was uploaded by the people I linked in the first post before the edited version went up.
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Oh. Okay then. I just took peoples' word for it when it was edited.
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I never played the Banjo series due to lack of motivation and interest. How can blowing up Mario be respectful in any shape or form?
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Banjo-Kazooie and Banjo-Tooie are awesome games. As for respectable things blowing up Mario...
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg155.imageshack.us%2Fimg155%2F796%2Ftalonbombak0.jpg&hash=88b37befa96f80410281ce003ffba26e)
Why no, I should not have bombs or the boomerang by this point in the game. Hm.
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My daughter's reaction to seeing that image was to point and say, Mario, Mario, Mario".
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...that car building system screams "Oh God, It's Gummi Ships all over again!" to me.
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Gummi Ship building is probably the only replay value left in either KH game for me now. I wish 358/2 days would hurry up and get released.
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Gummi Ship building is probably the only replay value left in either KH game for me now. I wish 358/2 days would hurry up and get released.
I just watched the trailer. Those graphics are ridiculously rich.
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Is that a good thing or a bad thing? I think it looks good.
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It's a good thing. I thought I was watching live action.
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I agree with Metal_Slug_Mario. They did completely mess up the game. I have been a huge fan of the banjo games since they came out so I can say that this new one coming out is not following the patterns of the originals and looks stupid. And what do you know, it's coming out for the xbox 360. The microsoft consoles are so stupid that they can take a good game and completely ruin it. Goes to show that the only good games made anymore are by nintendo. Everything else is crap. (Except the PSP I will admit there are alot of good games for that and I like it!) :)
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Nintendo didn't make Banjo-Kazooie or Banjo-Tooie. Microsoft isn't making Nuts and Bolts. It's Rare. And people working at Rare in the late '90s aren't working at Rare anymore. It kind of happens, you know?
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Dude I know that. But they came out for the n64. And this new one is coming out for the 360. So can you kinda see a pattern? nintendo good, microsoft bad? And who knows, maybe the publishers (mircosoft) told rare how they wanted alot of the game elements done to best "fit" xbox users. If you know what I mean.
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No. The 360 didn't kick people out of Rare. And just as all Nintendo gamers are not ten-minus-year-olds who only play Mario games, all Xbox gamers are not twenty-year-olds obsessed with graphics and guns who only play Halo.
Besides, Banjo-Kazooie: Grunty's Revenge was pretty bad, and that was on the Nintendo Game Boy Advance.
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Goes to show that the only good games made anymore are by nintendo. Everything else is crap.
Metal Gear Solid 4.
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Shadow of the Colossus?
Okami?
Beyond Good and Evil?
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Spyro the Dragon?
Resident Evil 4?
Katamari Damacy?
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Ape Escape?
Ape Escape 2?
Ape Escape 3?
........????
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I think I just found someone who is the polar opposite of myself...
Besides, Banjo-Kazooie: Grunty's Revenge was pretty bad, and that was on the Nintendo Game Boy Advance.
THQ was involved.
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THQ was just the publisher of Rare games on GBA after Microsoft bought them.
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The ape escape games are really fun. I like playstation consoles, cause they have cool games like Jak & Daxter, ape escapes, Ratchet and clank and stuff like that. But Nintendos stuff (I think) out does all those games by a long shot. But seriously, I thought this was a nintendo fan site!
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Nintendo fan, not Nintendo fanboy.
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I'm not a nintendo fanboy. I just don't like anything made for the xbox. Actually I hate everything made for the xbox except rares stuff. I said I like playstation stuff but I just don't think its as good as nintendos stuff.
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I think you'd be right about Nintendo outdoing Jak and Ratchet games. That's why I didn't list them.
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Ape escape is my favorite playstation games :)
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I'm not a nintendo fanboy. I just don't like anything made for the xbox. Actually I hate everything made for the xbox except rares stuff. I said I like playstation stuff but I just don't think its as good as nintendos stuff.
Well, alright then, but you said "I thought this was a Nintendo fan site" like three people enjoying PS2 games transforms it into the Sony forums.
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No I didn't intend for it to look like that.
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Goes to show that the only good games made anymore are by nintendo. Everything else is crap.
Crash Bandicoot?
Kingdom Hearts?
Spyro (already mentioned, but worth mentioning again)?
Twisted Metal?
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That's the scariest list of good games not made by Nintendo I've ever seen.
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What about Awesome Possum Kicks Dr. Machino's Butt?
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What about it? I've never heard of it, so it must not be worth playing.
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Crash Bandicoot is AWSOME! I tried twisted metal but I don't think that it's that good.
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What about it? I've never heard of it, so it must not be worth playing.
I'm pretty sure he's joking (well, the only time I heard about that game was in an article making fun of a print ad for it, so maybe it was a sleeper hit).
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It exists.
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2F3%2F39%2FAwesome_Possum_Coverart.png&hash=84f1e0e481cd4bb700a4fd501e6a1e52)
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No, I know it's real. Why else would I have put in that last sentence?
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I played the demo of this game. Nothing relating to Mario, there's a portion of this song which I'm like, 99.8% sure was in DK 64. Also, I saw a random Xbox game in the water. It's odd...
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Oh it wasn't random. :)
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So Nuts & Bolts does have a Mario reference (http://themushroomkingdom.net/games/bknb) after all.