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Title: Youth Rights
Post by: CrzyFlmngMnkyHead on June 23, 2008, 03:51:15 PM
I'm personally distgusted with today's society. In today's world, there's a new kind of discrimination going on. It's not racism, it's ageism. People are being discriminated because they haven't reached the magical age of 18, where every ounce of "malicious behavior" is somehow removed from their bodies within a matter of seconds after growing to said age.
Teenagers can't do certain things simply because everyone fears that teenagers are the Anarchist, pot-smoking, Halo-obsessed, binge-drinking, lazy, stupid punks everyone stereotypes them as. One teenager ends up hurting someone else in self-defence, and suddenly, all teenagers are labeled as horrible, violent people? And when one adult hurts someone just for the sake of hurting someone, adults are still treated better than teenagers who haven't done anything? It's a stupid double-standard that shouldn't exist.
And I read somewhere that all teenagers are evil and it's their own fault. Maybe we only act the way we do because of the rules society made up that restrict what we can and can't do?
And what's this about curfews that only affect people under the age of 18? Are they the only people that break the law? Are adults unable to break the law?
And not being able to own a firearm until you're 18. That's pretty stupid, are people saying that only teenagers kill? Or are they afraid that teenagers' minds are somehow unable to comprehend the sight of a gun, and will shoot themselves?
It's becoming harder and harder for teens to get jobs. People see us as inexperienced and stupid. Well, how are we supposed to get job experience then?
To get a job, you need experience.
To get experience, you need to get a job.
To get a job, you need experience.
Circular reasoning.

Also, one more thing: school's considered a job for students. Well, why can't we quit our job without getting arrested? Any adult can quit his/her job. So why can't we?
School isn't the only way to obtain knowledge.
Title: Re: Youth Rights
Post by: Turtlekid1 on June 23, 2008, 03:57:57 PM
That whole post reeked of post-modernism.
Title: Re: Youth Rights
Post by: TEM on June 23, 2008, 03:58:37 PM
BAAAAAAAWWWWWWW

P.S.: There is no such thing as Youth Rights.
Title: Re: Youth Rights
Post by: PaperLuigi on June 23, 2008, 04:27:54 PM
Just wait until you're an adult and you'll have the power you want, kiddo.
Title: Re: Youth Rights
Post by: goodie on June 23, 2008, 04:28:36 PM
I've never heard anyone say any of those things about teenagers.
Title: Re: Youth Rights
Post by: PaperLuigi on June 23, 2008, 04:32:46 PM
CTOAN (or CFMH if you prefer), if you hate society so much, maybe you should move away from society and live in the jungle. No people, no government, no laws, no order, no religion, no culture...sounds like a complete and utter lack of society to me. 
Title: Re: Youth Rights
Post by: Suffix on June 23, 2008, 04:34:29 PM
There really isn't any widespread pedophobia in the United States. I'm 19, and jobs are still hard to come by. I believe such restrictive laws are in place to develop good habits.
Title: Re: Youth Rights
Post by: Glorb on June 23, 2008, 04:53:47 PM
I'm going to start using "pedophobia" in my everyday conversation.
Title: Re: Youth Rights
Post by: CrzyFlmngMnkyHead on June 23, 2008, 04:58:21 PM
Quote from: Grace Llewellyn
Regardless of what the law or your teachers have to say about this, [young people] are as human as anyone over the age of 18 or 21, yet, 'minors' are one of the most oppressed groups of people in the world, and certainly the most discriminated against legally.

Also, Suffix, it's not pedophobia, it's more like pedo-discrimination.
Title: Re: Youth Rights
Post by: Lizard Dude on June 23, 2008, 05:11:58 PM
Quote from: CrzyFlmngMnkyHead on June 23, 2008, 03:51:15 PM
I'm personally distgusted with today's society. In today's world, there's a new kind of discrimination going on.
Weren't you the guy running around beating up queers?
Title: Re: Youth Rights
Post by: PaperLuigi on June 23, 2008, 05:22:12 PM
CTOAN, can I ask you something? Did you come back here and claim that you were "brainwashed by Christianity" in an attempt to get on everyone's good side after you said all of those horrible things about homosexuals? This is seriously an honest question, because I'm a Christian and I don't have a problem with homosexuals at all. Or do you really believe it was your own religion that caused you to beat up homosexuals rather than your own hate and judgement? If you actually read the Bible before abandoning it, you would recall that Jesus said "Don't judge or you'll be judged." Just because you see something as a sin doesn't mean you should hate the sinner. I also recall you saying that you did it because if you acted nice towards the homosexual, everyone at your school would label you as ''uncool'' or ''gay'' or something like that. Am I right or wrong, because you've repeatedly stated that people like me are brainwashed and screwed up and I don't like it. Vid probably felt the same way when you were bashing homosexuals.

As strange as it sounds, it is possible to discriminate against both Christians and homosexuals. Why hate on homosexuals and then turn around and hate on your own religion? Wouldn't it had been easier just to admit that you were wrong instead of making an excuse? I know this is way off topic, but it seems you have a problem with just about everything nowadays. Religion, society, homosexuals, government...isn't there something that you like? There are ways to get away from all of these things and it involves packing up your stuff and moving to the jungle.
Title: Re: Youth Rights
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on June 23, 2008, 06:22:40 PM
Quote from: CrzyFlmngMnkyHead on June 23, 2008, 03:51:15 PM
Teenagers can't do certain things simply because everyone fears that teenagers are the Anarchist, pot-smoking, Halo-obsessed, binge-drinking, lazy, stupid punks everyone stereotypes them as. One teenager ends up hurting someone else in self-defence, and suddenly, all teenagers are labeled as horrible, violent people? And when one adult hurts someone just for the sake of hurting someone, adults are still treated better than teenagers who haven't done anything? It's a stupid double-standard that shouldn't exist.

You do realize teenagers are spared capital punishment no matter what they may do?

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And I read somewhere that all teenagers are evil and it's their own fault. Maybe we only act the way we do because of the rules society made up that restrict what we can and can't do?

First part is easy to pass off as someone's sweeping generalization of teens. Second part exists to keep order and prevent those who are incapable of fully understanding the repercussion of their actions, as contradicting as it sounds.


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And what's this about curfews that only affect people under the age of 18? Are they the only people that break the law? Are adults unable to break the law?
And not being able to own a firearm until you're 18. That's pretty stupid, are people saying that only teenagers kill? Or are they afraid that teenagers' minds are somehow unable to comprehend the sight of a gun, and will shoot themselves?

Again, these people are at an age where they are transitioning between kids and adults. As such, they will believe that they're in the right or that they're responsible enough to have the same rights as an adult. They're not.

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It's becoming harder and harder for teens to get jobs. People see us as inexperienced and stupid. Well, how are we supposed to get job experience then?

It's called selling yourself to potential employers. Do some community service, participate in group projects. These type of things look well on your resume and will give you an edge over other up and comers.

or be like me and secure a job in your family's company. nepotism rules.

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Also, one more thing: school's considered a job for students. Well, why can't we quit our job without getting arrested? Any adult can quit his/her job. So why can't we?
School isn't the only way to obtain knowledge.

List other ways you can obtain knowledge then I'll consider your point. It's too broad so far.
Title: Re: Youth Rights
Post by: SolidShroom on June 23, 2008, 06:50:51 PM
Even though I'm still a teenager, I have to pretty much admit that teenagers don't get any rights at all. And truthfully, as unjust as it feels, I wouldn't trade these mild injustices with the difficulty that will follow these years. I mean, sure I can't do a few stupid unimportant things, but lol I don't have to work, school only operates 3 out of 4 seasons and the hours are short, my parents support me, and next year I'll be able to drive, which means I'll have to get a small job, but nothing that I will have to support myself with. Which is why people our age have such trouble finding jobs. We don't really need these jobs to get by, while there are people who do. I mean, if I had a job I would probably just buy musical equipment and video games which really contribute to silly hobby, and unless I plan to become a working musician or a pr0 gamer.

Also, why is everyone jumping on CFMH because of what he used to be like? Maybe he was brainwashed by his religion. I mean, saying all Christianity is the same is like saying all music is the same, and I'm sure there's a type of Christianity that has strong hostility towards homosexuality. Honestly, has he said anything about homosexuals since he came back? Everyone's waiting for him to go "lol i still hate gays" but maybe he actually doesn't! Imagine that. People change.
Title: Re: Youth Rights
Post by: Chupperson Weird on June 23, 2008, 09:14:46 PM
Quote from: CrzyFlmngMnkyHead on June 23, 2008, 03:51:15 PM
school's considered a job for students.
I never knew kids got paid for going to school.
Title: Re: Youth Rights
Post by: Shyguy92 on June 23, 2008, 09:35:34 PM
Quote from: PaperLuigi on June 23, 2008, 04:32:46 PM
maybe you should move away from society and live in the jungle.
Quote from: PaperLuigi on June 23, 2008, 05:22:12 PM
There are ways to get away from all of these things and it involves packing up your stuff and moving to the jungle.
This is stupid.
Title: Re: Youth Rights
Post by: PaperLuigi on June 23, 2008, 09:41:50 PM
Instead of responding with a simple-minded comment, why don't you actually elaborate on why you think my solution to CTOAN's problem is stupid? He obviously hates society, so I gave him a solution to his problem. It's either that or he becomes president and changes everything. But seeing as how he hates school, I doubt this is going to happen.

Honestly, do you really expect me to take you seriously when you respond with "this is stupid" to one sentence of a long, thought out post?
Title: Re: Youth Rights
Post by: Ambulance Y on June 23, 2008, 10:08:19 PM
I don't think he hates society, he just doesn't understand it.
Title: Re: Youth Rights
Post by: Forest Guy on June 23, 2008, 11:08:49 PM
Eveyrone ignore him until he turns 17 and stops being a rebellious teenager. seriously, back when I was 15, I hated being lumped into the same category of deadhead, miscreants. But despite what I thought, I wasn't. I never was 'stereotyped' as a hoodlum or anything, and you, TC, shouldn't unless you did something to deserve it. The law recognizes 18 as that "magical" number as you put it, because on average, that's when a typical person is just about fully matured, including mentally. Is everyone below 18 immature? no. Is everyone older than 18 perfectly adult-like? No. it's just an arbitrary generalization, though necessary. They can't exactly introduce a test that everyone takes when they want to legally be declared an adult. It just wouldn't work.
Title: Re: Youth Rights
Post by: Vidgmchtr on June 24, 2008, 12:02:54 AM
Quote from: PaperLuigi on June 23, 2008, 05:22:12 PM
Vid probably felt the same way when you were bashing homosexuals.

I did.

I'm pretty sure out of all the people who hated CTOAN at the time, I harbored the most hate for him.

BUT, I still always said in the back of my mind "He's young, and doesn't know better."

I feel this thread is the same exact case with him.

Personally, I respected the fact that I was a minor, and didn't really feel much need to get a job, be outside past a certain time, etc. etc., but I didn't really feel much different when I turned this "magical age". Sure, now I can legally look at porn sites, register to vote for our next U.S. President, and sign legal documents in my own name and not under my parents', but I'm still the same guy I always was.

CTOAN: Just wait is what I have to say. Things and opportunities will just open up when you legally become an adult in the government's eyes. You're really hating on things for no good reason. What you're really doing is just trying to force yourself to grow up. Don't.</Holden Caulfield> You're almost there, just try to hold together a bit longer. Be content with your age and place in society in the process.

NOTE: Don't expect me to post regularly after this. Seeing as leaving the forum completely proves difficult, I've been slowly weaning myself from it, lurking less and less each day, to lurking every other day, and so on, until, eventually, I just forget about it.

NOTE 2: I absolutely HATE The Catcher in the Rye.
Title: Re: Youth Rights
Post by: MaxVance on June 24, 2008, 12:05:53 AM
Did you mean to make this post in The ANGST Thread, but hit New Topic by accident? That's how this topic sounds.
Title: Re: Youth Rights
Post by: Chupperson Weird on June 24, 2008, 12:07:35 AM
Why is Vid quoting a book he hates? (Undeservingly, I would say.)
Title: Re: Youth Rights
Post by: Ambulance Y on June 24, 2008, 12:20:04 AM
When you're how you say "lurking" so much, I find it hard to take you seriously, Vid.
Title: Re: Youth Rights
Post by: Vidgmchtr on June 24, 2008, 12:32:22 AM
Quote from: Ambulance Y on June 24, 2008, 12:20:04 AM
When you're how you say "lurking" so much, I find it hard to take you seriously, Vid.
Then don't. I honestly don't care if you take me seriously or not, since you're over the internet and all. I return out of habit, despite the fact that this board is no longer in my bookmarks (GayGamer's forum is currently in its former spot), and like anything you've grown accustomed to for years (remember I've been a member of this forum since 2001), just going cold turkey won't work. I'm currently down to visiting this place once a day, for a few minutes.

Quote from: Chupperson Weird on June 24, 2008, 12:07:35 AM
Why is Vid quoting a book he hates? (Undeservingly, I would say.)

I thought what I had typed sounded kinda like what the main character of that awful book usually says or thinks, so I added that HTML tag. Personal opinion, Chup. Don't like it? Sorry, that's just me.
Title: Re: Youth Rights
Post by: Lizard Dude on June 24, 2008, 12:37:26 AM
I told you idiots if you said Vidgmchtr's name three times he'd come back AND NOW LOOK WHAT'S HAPPENED!
Title: Re: Youth Rights
Post by: The Chef on June 24, 2008, 07:25:21 AM
What's wrong with The Catcher in the Rye?
Title: Re: Youth Rights
Post by: Turtlekid1 on June 24, 2008, 07:49:33 AM
Quote from: Lizard Dude on June 24, 2008, 12:37:26 AM
I told you idiots if you said Vidgmchtr's name three times he'd come back AND NOW LOOK WHAT'S HAPPENED!

Don't look at me... I can't even spell it without copy and paste.
Title: Re: Youth Rights
Post by: ShadowBrain on June 24, 2008, 10:25:20 AM
LOL

Hey, I'm not going to get into the whole CrzyFlmngMnkyHead (man, can't spell that with copy-paste either...) hate-debate/lurking Vidgmchtr debate, but I'll just say that most of the teens I know certainly don't deserve most of those rights. And why does it matter, anyway? These laws/rules against under-18/21-year-olds are like Prohibition laws--they're all just white noise. Kids shoot guns, smoke weed, look at porn, and get pregnant all the same if they really want to. And they hardly ever get in trouble!

There was an article in Time once by a guy with an awesome suggestion: In the future, formulate some sort of test(s)--an almagamation of an IQ test, driver's test, and all other manner of important quizzes--to determine one's age-based rights. Pass the test(s), and you'd be able to drink, drive, and/or have sex no matter what your age (of course, your rights could be revoked).

Quote from: Glorb on June 23, 2008, 04:53:47 PM
I'm going to start using "pedophobia" in my everyday conversation.
I have a pedometer--it tells me how many children are nearby within a circular vicinity of 500 yards.
Title: Re: Youth Rights
Post by: Suffix on June 24, 2008, 03:36:21 PM
ShadowBrain, ped means feet, while ometer is tacked on to "measure feet [steps]."
Title: Re: Youth Rights
Post by: ShadowBrain on June 24, 2008, 04:30:59 PM
I know. (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/joke)
Title: Re: Youth Rights
Post by: CrossEyed7 on June 24, 2008, 05:07:57 PM
So how come foot doctors are called podiatriasts? That's always niggled me.
Title: Re: Youth Rights
Post by: Glitchy on June 24, 2008, 05:20:30 PM
Quote from: Suffix on June 24, 2008, 03:36:21 PM
ShadowBrain, ped means feet, while ometer is tacked on to "measure feet [steps]."

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Actually, you're wrong. Pod is the root word for feet, and I don't know about ped, but I don't think that means feet.
Title: Re: Youth Rights
Post by: Luigalaxy on June 24, 2008, 05:35:38 PM
OK. I have said before I am and underaged poster. Kill me for it. But, even though I'm 11 and pretty smart for my age as well, I disagree.

Seriously answer this. Do not lie. Are you just complaining about rights? No one ever said ALL teens are bad. The reason why there is a curfew is because of many rebellious teens. School? The law says you need to learn, not have to go to school. Some of my friends are homeschooled. Firearms? Duh. Rebellious (probably not rebellious, but still)/pot/cocaine/insert drug name here-heads/crazy people,etc. going around shooting people AND because of the school shootings. About the blamings, ignore the stereotypes. They will say ANYTHING about people/things they hate. I myself, however, do not enjoy the age of 18. Don't yell at me for this, but I think it should be 21 (excluding voting.).
My cousin (14) underage somkes. His parents have not done anything about this. My mom,who is a smoker, thinks that the legal smoking age should be 21. My brother (before he was 18) smoked ocasionally. He is now a full-on smoker. And, this wasn't added but, it the drinking age is obvious. I will use myself as an example. One time, on my bus, a friend of mine took out a joint of pot. He gave one to my other friend, but the other friend did not smoke it. The one friend smoked the joint. I thought it smelled worse than tobacco smoke. After a few breaths (ON ACCIDENT! I DID NOT MEAN TO!) Me and a friend in the seat in front of me, got high. I laughed for no reason and called Captain Morgan (it came up in a conversation) Captain Jack. About an hour later, I had a killer headache. About 3-4 breaths of smoke and I wsa high. Think about what alcahol/drugs could do to a teenager. It would take about 7 breaths, but he/she would still get high. The reason why teens don't have as much rights is because a lot of them would abuse the power. Thats why. Thank you.
Title: Re: Youth Rights
Post by: Nintendoobsessed on June 24, 2008, 05:39:44 PM
The views of Magik Studios do not reflect this Educational Film.

Teacher: Teenagers=Limited Responsiblity

Rebel: Why?

Teacher: No Experiance=Limited Responsibility

Rebel: Give them experiance!

Teacher: Teenagers/Children=Unexperianced/foolish <----A sad fact/assumption that adults make

Teacher: Unexperianced foolish is FIXED by going to SCHOOL

Rebel: And what about people who dropped out of school?

Teacher: Um...uh... ... .... ......SHUT UP!!!!

Teacher: Anyway, another reason:

Teacher: Unexperianced/foolish child + Born with stupidity

Teacher: UFS child does something incredibly stupid and ridiculous.

Teacher: It is immediatly assumed that all children are as stupid as the UFS=Limited responsibilitys

Rebel: But-

Teacher: GET OUT! YOUR A STUPID CHILD! AGRGGGH!
Title: Re: Youth Rights
Post by: Luigalaxy on June 24, 2008, 05:43:10 PM
Thats definatly an example of a stereotype (and a moron with that.).
Title: Re: Youth Rights
Post by: Suffix on June 24, 2008, 06:09:09 PM
Quote from: Glitchy on June 24, 2008, 05:20:30 PM
Actually, you're wrong. Pod is the root word for feet, and I don't know about ped, but I don't think that means feet.

You think you've defeated my knowledge of prefixes? It's Latin! Mwaha!

*cough* Anyway, you're not exactly wrong, either. Pod- is Greek, ped- is Latin. ped- in Greek is 'child.' If it weren't for the Latin ped, how would we have such things as 'pedometer,' 'pedestrian,' or 'pedestal?'
Title: Re: Youth Rights
Post by: BP on June 24, 2008, 06:17:05 PM
I don't have any problems with restrictions on minors. They don't really affect me because I'm not the kind who would do any of the things that I'm prohibited from doing for my age. I have no reason to be out alone after it gets dark. I have no attraction to alcohol. Drugs used for non-medical purposes disgust me.

And I am openly ashamed of the majority of my generation. Of course, the abominations committed by my peers aren't as evident in honors classes--what a blessing that the school system separates students like that. But at lunch, in "electives" like P.E. and driver's ed, I have seen terrible things. The freshmen stand in an alley where they smoke and swear to a point that they cannot be compared to anything else I've ever known. It's because of them that we can't sit down and eat lunch there... the authorities confronted us about littering (ahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaa no). Now those shameless kids don't even make an attempt to hide anymore. In P.E., I have seriously been directly asked if I ever drink or take drugs in the same manner you might ask a person what kinds of movies they like to watch.

To conclude, I don't feel oppressed at all. Most people my age would be better off with weights chained to their ankles, really, but I wouldn't approve of that being the standard for minors.
Title: Re: Youth Rights
Post by: CrossEyed7 on June 24, 2008, 06:21:08 PM
"Unexperianced/foolish child + Born with stupidity UFS child does something incredibly stupid and ridiculous" reminded me of this:

The Word EARTH indicates One, Entity or Singularity,
but Earth is not an Entity, for the Half of Earth seen
from Space cannot exist without the Opposite Half
NOT SEEN - existing only as opposites with a plus &
minus zero existence.  As an Entity, the Opposites
will cancel each other out to nothing. Teaching that
Earth is an Entity equates to a Doomsday induced by
Educaters upon Humanity. Earth is not a Singularity,
it is composed of Opposites. No God can exist as One
or without Opposite Sex. ONEness is queer worship
which dooms opposite life. A Queer God is [darn]ation
for it desecrates My Mother. Know that ONE causes Hell.

KNOW CUBE, OR HELL. Education and Religion
severely diminishes your intelligence and mentality,
instituting ONEness Evil, You are educated stupid -
and you have no inkling to just how EVIL you think.

Seek in haste to attend a lecture by Dr. Gene Ray,
Cubic and Wisest Human - His Wisdom is Awesome.

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(Dr Gene Ray, Cubic and Wisest Human, depicted in image above)
Title: Re: Youth Rights
Post by: Luigalaxy on June 24, 2008, 06:32:40 PM
OK, I got pretty p***ed of at this topic due to the fact people bashed homosexuals (for reference, I am straight, but don't care about homosexuals much.) ALOT here. Vid is currently on his way to leaving because of the stereotypical jerks on here who think of gays as another species, instead of a type of person who likes the same sex. Is a Christain supposed to be against gays? I think not. I am Roman Catholic, however, I pratice a good amount of Cristianity. PaperLuigi posted a quote from Jesus:
Quote from: PaperLuigi on June 13, 2008, 07:22:52 AM
"Don't judge or you'll be judged."

Listen to Jesus.
Title: Re: Youth Rights
Post by: nensondubois on June 24, 2008, 06:33:11 PM
Rights are not something you can put an age on but privileges you can so everyone has equal rights.
Title: Re: Youth Rights
Post by: Kuromatsu on June 24, 2008, 06:51:17 PM
Quote from: luigalaxy on June 24, 2008, 06:32:40 PM
Vid is currently on his way to leaving
I'm pretty sure he already left.
Title: Re: Youth Rights
Post by: BP on June 24, 2008, 08:40:54 PM
Vid's out. And he's not out because he ever got bashed for his orientation. He's out for reasons he's told me many, many times. "I left FF mostly due to LD. And that it stopped being fun a long time ago." Lizard Dude and Vidgmchr were mortal enemies. Don't know when that started, presumably after Lizard Dude stopped being everyone's favorite member and went mad. And he's said again and again that it's just not the same as it was when he joined--it's gotten old, in other words.

So you're wrong. Vidgmchtr didn't freaking leave because of anti-gayness. In fact, correct me if I'm being incredibly foggy-brained, but, wasn't it a unanimous "Gay people are just fine" when he left anyway?

And that's all. Vid's chosen to leave. He's slowly ending the lurking act, too. No more dramatic pleas for him to stay. People come and go.
Title: Re: Youth Rights
Post by: Nintendoobsessed on June 24, 2008, 08:46:30 PM
Goodbye Viddy! 'Tears'

'Pulls out handkerchief'

'Looks at handkerchief'

You know...this really is old...
Title: Re: Youth Rights
Post by: Chupperson Weird on June 24, 2008, 08:50:06 PM
Vid just wants attention. And he's unfortunately found a good way to exploit the people here for it.
Title: Re: Youth Rights
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on June 24, 2008, 10:45:14 PM
Quote from: Lizard Dude on June 24, 2008, 12:37:26 AM
I told you idiots if you said Vidgmchtr's name three times he'd come back AND NOW LOOK WHAT'S HAPPENED!

I thought that trick only worked if you stood in front of a mirror.

I'm also still waiting for CFMH to elaborate on how kids can gain an education outside of public/private/homeschooling.
Title: Re: Youth Rights
Post by: Suffix on June 24, 2008, 11:07:19 PM
They sure can't get a GED through anything else.
Title: Re: Youth Rights
Post by: TEM on June 25, 2008, 09:02:45 AM
Quote from: Mr. Wiggles on June 24, 2008, 10:45:14 PM
I thought that trick only worked if you stood in front of a mirror.

No, you just have to be holding some kind of food when you say it.
Title: Re: Youth Rights
Post by: Shyguy92 on July 16, 2008, 11:07:22 PM
Quote from: PaperLuigi on June 23, 2008, 09:41:50 PM
Instead of responding with a simple-minded comment, why don't you actually elaborate on why you think my solution to CTOAN's problem is stupid? He obviously hates society, so I gave him a solution to his problem. It's either that or he becomes president and changes everything. But seeing as how he hates school, I doubt this is going to happen.

Honestly, do you really expect me to take you seriously when you respond with "this is stupid" to one sentence of a long, thought out post?
1. I was just saying that no ones gonna move to the jungle.
2. If he doesn''t like doing stuff legally he can do stuff illegally. That's my point of view.
3. Just kidding my view is way deeper then that.
4. Just kidding my point of view was a forest fire.
Title: Re: Youth Rights
Post by: Trainman on July 16, 2008, 11:52:10 PM
Well, when you turn the "magical age of 18" you're gonna start getting your butt kicked to get life started. Enjoy it while you can, really, because it'll start sucking from here on out if you're not ready. You'll have to start life: college, work, home, bills, FILING TAXES OMG, etc. You're gonna learn how to work money and learn about economics, also, so you don't get screwed in the future. Figure it out now while you have the chance so you don't leave your house wondering.. ...eh how do loans and and your 1040 work.

I do agree on the paradox you have going on though. My parents keep saying that getting a job will teach me how to like, mortgage a house, get a car loan, keep my credit score high and all this other mess... and I tell them "nah, it'll teach me how to work there, basically." Get a job now; it'll make you happy.

Oh, anyway, about the fireman thing: you've probably never heard of EXPLORERS or whatever it is where you can be a junior firefighter (volunteer, basically) and take calls just like employed firefighters. You would set up hoses and stuff and clean the shop and engines, etc.

The reason you have to be 18 to be a firefighter is the same for almost anything... insurance purposes. If you're 18, it falls on you. Say you were 17 and became a firefighter somehow. If you died or broke equipment, the issue would fall on your parents. That's why I couldn't be a porter at Garlyn-Shelton BMW (I applied when I was 17) because if I damaged one of the cars or totalled a vehicle, it'd fall on your parents, not me, etc. etc. etc. etc.

Oh btw, don't forget to go get your Selective Service forms in within 30 days of turning 18 or you'll have a warrant issued for your arrest!! Don' try and fight that; it won't work. (This has not happened to me; I'm not speaking from experience.)