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Miscellaneous => General Chat => Not at the Dinner Table => Topic started by: Luigison on December 14, 2010, 09:33:08 PM

Title: "get into this here"
Post by: Luigison on December 14, 2010, 09:33:08 PM
This thread is for Turtlekid1. 

http://themushroomkingdom.net/board/index.php?topic=12679.msg582278#msg582278
Title: Re: "get into this here"
Post by: Turtlekid1 on December 14, 2010, 09:36:35 PM
Said scientists are asserting as fact things that they cannot prove to be scientific fact.

/thread
Title: Re: "get into this here"
Post by: Weegee on December 14, 2010, 09:39:00 PM
Since when did Luigison become the new Glorb?
Title: Re: "get into this here"
Post by: PaperLuigi on December 14, 2010, 10:00:39 PM
Seeing as how arguments with Turtlekid typically hit a brick wall after a certain point, the futility of continuing this thread is apparent.
Title: Re: "get into this here"
Post by: bobman37 on December 14, 2010, 10:01:11 PM
Luigison, I like your style.

Turtlekid, I'm afraid you'll need to be more specific.
Title: Re: "get into this here"
Post by: Luigison on December 15, 2010, 06:49:30 PM
Said Turtlekid1 is asserting as fact things that he cannot prove to be fact or is unwilling to do so in this thread.  (If I missed something in another thread please link me there.)

Turtlekid1, I didn't make this thread as a joke, jab at you, or to turn it into some kind of game or meme.  I was hoping for an intellectual discussion.   
Title: Re: "get into this here"
Post by: Turtlekid1 on December 15, 2010, 06:54:43 PM
The term "map" as in "Scientists have mapped out the past" implies that it's possible to provide details with 100% accurate and reliable proof.  A general idea?  Maybe.  But not with the level of detail that certain "scientists" like to think.

While on the subject, I think I should just say that the past and the future are two different things, and to assume that we can know one just by knowing the other is... unwise.

Off-topic, LD would say that Luigison attended the Turtlekid School of Argumentation.
Title: Re: "get into this here"
Post by: Kimimaru on December 17, 2010, 05:15:58 PM
I agree with Turtlekid1. It doesn't even matter that predicting the weather and the future are two different things; if we don't even know how a section of the Earth will be in a week, how will we know what the entire planet is going to be like billions of years from now? Remember the dinosaurs? We don't even know what colors they were. There can always be estimates, but there is still a sense of doubt. No one knows when the next Noah's Ark will occur.

This reminds me of a bogus Yahoo! article I read once that showed a discovery scientists found. These scientists said that through "research," they found that people maintain the same personalities throughout their entire lives. If that was the case, how come I know many people that have changed immensely? This proves that scientists are even willing to make things up to gain recognition/fame.
Title: Re: "get into this here"
Post by: Turtlekid1 on December 18, 2010, 04:51:53 PM
Everything turns into a power play sooner or later.  If there's even the slightest chance that a "scientific finding" will grant more power to those who back it, or allow them to deny responsibility for something, then that finding will inexplicably rise in prominence whether it's been conclusively proved or not.  All so people can have more power and less accountability.
Title: Re: "get into this here"
Post by: PaperLuigi on December 18, 2010, 06:56:06 PM
Everything turns into a power play sooner or later.  If there's even the slightest chance that a "scientific finding" will grant more power to those who back it, or allow them to deny responsibility for something, then that finding will inexplicably rise in prominence whether it's been conclusively proved or not. 

Sounds a lot like creationism!
Title: Re: "get into this here"
Post by: Turtlekid1 on December 18, 2010, 07:02:41 PM
Except the inverse; the true* creationist wants to be more accountable and have less power.
*The definition of "true" being, in this case, the creationist that is a Bible-abiding Christian
Title: Re: "get into this here"
Post by: PaperLuigi on December 19, 2010, 04:42:46 PM
The definition of "true" being, in this case, the creationist that is a Bible-abiding Christian

I'm guessing Islamic creationists aren't true creationists. Or Jewish creationists. Or any of the other proposed creationists.
Title: Re: "get into this here"
Post by: Turtlekid1 on December 19, 2010, 05:56:53 PM
Not for the purposes of that statement, since I can only speak for how biblical Christians should conduct themselves, not Jews or Muslims.  But I would wager you were referring more to Christians than those groups in your previous statement.