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General Chat / Re: Confess!
« on: April 07, 2011, 06:42:51 PM »
Trust me, if I knew someone who sold weed that isn't a ****ing narc, I'd be right there with you. The world is too depressing for a rational mind to be in -- I'm really only happy when things are distorted anymore.

Depressing as hell, really.

General Chat / Re: Confess!
« on: April 07, 2011, 04:42:08 PM »
Haha, no one can resist the ponies


And, I'll confess something also -- since the time I last left TMK and now, I developed a raging alcohol problem. As in, I drink myself to sleep literally every single day.

Not at the Dinner Table / Re: Your F Score?
« on: April 07, 2011, 04:40:44 PM »

As I mentioned, I got a 2.1, but I interpreted one question in the opposite way to how it was intended so I got a de facto 1.933333 etc. I like how not wanting the government to butt into your personal life makes you a "whining rotter".

Not at the Dinner Table / Re: Homosexuality and Same-Sex Marriage
« on: April 07, 2011, 04:38:18 PM »
Here's my counter-argument to anyone who says sexuality is a choice:

If it were, I'd be bi, not straight.

Not at the Dinner Table / Re: Your F Score?
« on: April 06, 2011, 05:05:23 PM »
Well... in that case, there goes every non-asexual male in existence, also. The gays are already put to death for being gay.

And since the asexuals don't want to procreate, Biblical rule = extinction. wtg guys

Not at the Dinner Table / Re: Your F Score?
« on: April 06, 2011, 02:56:43 PM »
Guys, I think we're beating a dead horse.

The corpse was unidentifiable days ago

Also pp. 270-284 of that .pdf is scary. Death penalty for adultery? Well, there goes like a quarter of the population, at least.

General Chat / Re: 10 people 1 question...
« on: April 04, 2011, 11:24:28 AM »
Why is 6 afraid of 7?

Because 7 is more than 6. If 7 wanted, all he'd have to do is subtract 6 from both of them, and suddenly 6 would be nothing, and everyone in numberland would make fun of 6, and 6 would become depressed and get fat after eating a pint of ice cream straight from the tub every day, and eventually become a homeless meth addict. All because 7 wanted to be a jerk one day.

Not at the Dinner Table / Re: Your F Score?
« on: April 03, 2011, 11:40:20 PM »
Jesus was a socialist with two dads.

But yea, I very much respect the teachings of actual Jesus. Too bad the right wing has invented "supply-side" Jesus which is basically the opposite of Jesus, expect also named Jesus.

General Chat / Re: 10 people 1 question...
« on: April 03, 2011, 10:14:51 PM »
Can God microwave a burrito so hot that not even He could eat it?

Not at the Dinner Table / Re: Your F Score?
« on: April 03, 2011, 11:25:10 AM »
I'm not sure, but I think God said something about not killing somewhere in the Bible, somewhere. I can't remember the verse, but it was with a few other base laws that God held especially dear. I think there were 10 in total.

That includes murderers and people you disagree with, by the way.

Seriously, your morals contradict themselves so often it's like I'm wasting my breath here.

Not at the Dinner Table / Re: Your F Score?
« on: April 02, 2011, 10:19:57 PM »
Oh, and before you wonder how I can keep pulling these links from nowhere, my hatred for the social right as manifested itself to the point where I can instinctively remember hundreds of cases of things that **** me off. Also I visit a lot.

Not at the Dinner Table / Re: Your F Score?
« on: April 02, 2011, 10:15:27 PM »
Oh, pro-death-after-birthers, let me count thine ways:

Most support abolishing any kind of standard health care for the poor. Children have no say in who they are born to. Hell, Rush Limbaugh, the bastion of right-wing lunacy himself, suggested "dumpster diving as a fun activiy for poor children." No, I am dead serious.

Most support completely de-funding school lunch programs. Which, for a lot of very poor children, is the only hot meal they get a day. Starve a poor child, they die. Again, pro-death.

Most support going to war for frivolous reasons. I don't need to comment on this.

A select few support killing abortion doctors. Again, this is a select few, but the hypocrisy is obscene.

And, almost all of them support the death penalty.

I've been drinking so I don't feel like delving deeper, but a lot of "pro-life" people don't give two [dukar]s if people die unnecessarily after they're born. As such, I equate someone saying they are "pro-life" to saying they are misogynists who only want to punish women for having sex.

Not at the Dinner Table / Re: Your F Score?
« on: April 02, 2011, 09:29:07 PM »
Um, because conservatives and those of faith ARE, a lot of the time, against life? Like, the only way you can call them "pro-life" is if you end the definition of life at birth.

"The only reason they call it the American Dream is because you have to be asleep to believe it."
~George Carlin (RIP)

Not at the Dinner Table / Re: Your F Score?
« on: April 02, 2011, 08:30:48 PM »
Why is murder bad, though?

Not really going to address your second part (Note -- I mistakenly edited the 2nd part, it basically said that Lot's wife disobeys God, and not Lot, and that's the critical difference), because I mean that's just a difference on how we interpret the Bible and God's law and stuff.

As for murder... I'm going to try to describe this as someone who doesn't believe in religion, so you can maybe see how morality is possible without religion:

When one makes a decision that impacts others, one has to consider two possible variables -- the net benefit/loss that you obtain, and the net benefit/loss that those you interact with gain. The determining of such things is very complex, but we won't need to define it for the final result. One should, as such, strive for as many +/+ actions as possible. This is trivial.

-/+ actions; that is, actions that benefit others at cost to you, are also, mostly, acceptable. However, if the - part is a lot more than the + part, then it's a bad action. If there's a good trade-off, it's a good action if you don't mind the losses.

-/- actions should be avoided at all costs. This should also be trivial. Except, people do them all the time.

+/-, that is, actions that help you at the expense of others... these are the difficult moral cases. Like, should I buy that cheap TV for my own enjoyment knowing someone's life was worsened by making it? This is where it's hard to quantify in a lot of cases....

But murder is not one of them. Murder has a benefit of negative infinity to the person you kill. There is NO gain at all that justifies the loss the other person faces. Period.

That's also where sociopathy is a bit dangerous -- if they don't care about other people, the "-" part will be very, very low compared to society's estimation. They may see such an action as beneficial to themselves when it's really not beneficial to society in just about everyone else's estimation.

Not at the Dinner Table / Re: Your F Score?
« on: April 02, 2011, 08:12:33 PM »
Murder can still be committed against a person with a death wish, though.  There are a few examples of consensual crimes, the most infamous being statutory rape.

Assisted suicide is not a crime in my ideal society. Statutory rape is a bit more  finicky, but when people's lives are unconditionally ruined because they had sex with their 5-day younger girlfriends (which was legal the day before), or because a girl lies about her age to someone, there's issues with the law. I will say the sex offender list needs to be completely destroyed. Also, if a pre-pubescent girl wants sex, she's almost definitely not informed of any of the risks, which makes it de facto non-consensual in many cases.

But in manslaughter cases, the killer still has control over his actions even if it's involuntary.  When a woman miscarries, it's not a result of any particular action on her part.

At least you can tell the difference. some people (By which, I mean elected state representatives) cannot.

What bad things does it lead to, and why are they bad?

In the most extreme cases, murder, and absolutely no feelings of remorse for it. In lesser extreme cases, less extreme results. Your responses have made me think you to be less sociopathic than first thought.

God never murdered anyone.  He killed people, but it was never for no reason.  Lot's wife disobeyed him in "looking back at the city," where "looking back" doesn't mean she just glanced back, but that she wanted to go back.

So if a woman disobeys her husband, it's grounds for justifiable homicide. Riiiiiiight.

I didn't think anyone needed proof to make claims anymore, what with Darwinism being taught as absolute fact in public schools.

Darwinism is taught as a theory, NOT an absolute truth. If tomorrow some archaeologist found indisputable proof of the existence of God, you better believe scientists (as well as myself) would stop believing it.

I really do want to see how you think, because I do encounter people with more extreme versions of your views all the time, and want to see why you think that. Considering your responses, a score of about 4 on the original test seems about right. I encounter 4.5-5s a lot and my heads figuratively explodes when I hear some of the things they say.

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