Author Topic: SMB World -1 (Minus World) (Read 7565 times)

Luigison · « **on:** May 31, 2004, 01:16:32 PM »

For the new people or others here who haven't seen World -1 or the other Minus Worlds checkout:

http://www.masterware.net/hobbies/smb.htm

Insane Steve · « **Reply #1 on:** May 31, 2004, 02:13:14 PM »

Hmmmm, -3 looks a lot like 4-4 with the underground block set... Interesting.

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MEGAß¥TE · « **Reply #2 on:** May 31, 2004, 06:46:28 PM »

Very interesting, though I think his technical details are flat out wrong. FDS SMB just has the data in the ROM in different locations, so the pointers for minus world end up in different levels. If it hadn't been chance that resulted in regular SMB having an underwater level as minus world, there would have been more levels just like with FDS SMB. This wasn't intentional, just chance of where the pointers ended up in the ROM. If beating -3 lets you choose your level, that's another chance thing, problably due to the comparison routine used to determine whether you're allowed to select your level after beating the game twice normally. i.e. IT WAS ALL CHANCE, NOT SOMETHING PLANNED FOR BY NINTENDO as the author of that page states. The fact that glitchy versions of levels already in the game were used proves this. Chance again allowed the levels to be fully playable, unlike many of the levels obtained when using Game Genie codes. If Nintendo did actually know about the bug, it's possible that they made sure the pointer at least went to playable levels instead of fixing the actual bug (which may have required extensive rewriting of the game engine).

Red Paratroopa · « **Reply #3 on:** May 31, 2004, 07:32:39 PM »

Heh, in the upcoming SMB release for GBA, they stuck the Minus World back in.

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Chupperson Weird · « **Reply #4 on:** May 31, 2004, 08:37:31 PM »

They never took it out, doofus.
That's just a copy of the original SMB ROM.

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Markio · « **Reply #5 on:** May 31, 2004, 08:46:20 PM »

Saying "doofus" made me laugh out loud, but only because "doofus is a funny word. BTW, is "lol" pronounced like "lull", or do you say the letters, like "El Oh El"?

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Vidgmchtr · « **Reply #6 on:** May 31, 2004, 09:41:55 PM »

I pronounce it a "l-oh-l"

Markio · « **Reply #7 on:** May 31, 2004, 09:59:56 PM »

So do I, but some of my friends are pretending that they're going to make their own website an call it LOL ENTERPRISES, and they pronounce it "lull".

An apple a day keeps the doctor away, especially if you have good aim!

Forest Guy · « **Reply #8 on:** June 01, 2004, 03:00:26 PM »

Well even if you were to pronounce it as a word, it'd be pronounced "lahl" because an O following a consonant makes the "AH" noise.

The guy at that website doesn't know the difference between a World/Level and a Stage. For shame.

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Vidgmchtr · « **Reply #9 on:** June 01, 2004, 05:14:26 PM »

There was actually a point in time for me when I didn't laugh at all, I just said "LOL". It was weird....

Do The Mario! · « **Reply #10 on:** June 04, 2004, 09:57:07 AM »

It's "el-oh-el", trust me. But that Minus World thing is awesome, I wonder how it changed from the Japanese to American version... (If it said it in the article, please don't be a jerk about it because due to limited time I couldn't really read it)

Do the Mario! Swing your arms from side to side, come on, it''s time to go do the Mario! Take one step, and then again, let''s do the Mario all together now! You got it! It''s the Mario! Do the Mario! Swing your arms from side to side, come on, it''s time to go do the Mario! Take one step, and then again! Let''s do the Mario altogether now! Come on now! Just like that!

Chupperson Weird · « **Reply #11 on:** June 05, 2004, 12:21:53 PM »

I always pronounce it "lahl."

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MEGAß¥TE · « **Reply #12 on:** June 05, 2004, 12:44:30 PM »

lollers

NintendoExpert89 · « **Reply #13 on:** June 05, 2004, 12:50:43 PM »

I just say "Laugh out Loud."

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MadRhetoric · « **Reply #14 on:** June 05, 2004, 06:29:54 PM »

I just go "Hahaha" in the place of lol.

NintendoIke64 · « **Reply #15 on:** June 05, 2004, 06:55:55 PM »

I just say "that's funny."

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Luigison · « **Reply #16 on:** June 09, 2004, 06:34:42 PM »

Deezer · « **Reply #17 on:** June 09, 2004, 09:10:57 PM »

There are a couple variations. You don't really have to duck (I don't, and I'm not sure if it makes it any easier/harder), and the latest Nintendo Power shows a duck-jump through two blocks remaining next to the pipe.

Deezer · « **Reply #18 on:** June 09, 2004, 09:13:29 PM »

Oh, the instructions say ducking or jumping doesn't matter. But if you leave two blocks (like Nintendo Power shows) you probably have to duck. I'm sure if I'm wrong, MEGAß¥TE will correct me because he does the two-block method.

WarioLandMan · « **Reply #19 on:** June 10, 2004, 03:59:29 PM »

that picture is what I've needed for months! Thanks a load!!! I finally got into the Minus World!!!

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Luigison · « **Reply #20 on:** June 13, 2004, 02:41:02 PM »

I read the following refering to minus world on forums.nintendo.com. Can anyone confirm if it works?

"Did it and now I can get there any time I want to by holding "A" and pressing "Start" on the title screen (The "Continue from last world, first level" code). The trick is to save your high-score when you get there because it also saves it as the last world you played. Don't believe me? Take a warp zone or save a mushroom retainer then save your high-score (Press L + R and select the menu option). Then power off and back on again. Hold "A" and press "Start" on the title screen and you will return to the first level in that world. In the original, this was originally only supposed to work if you got game over in that world to allow you to continue only a level or so behind where you were (ie, die and get Game Over on 4-1, 4-2, 4-3 or 4-4 and you can resume at 4-1) but a nuance or the high-score save feature saves a complete dump of the memory allowing this trick to work after powering off."

WarioLandMan · « **Reply #21 on:** June 14, 2004, 10:45:18 AM »

Yes! I did it on my NES. Holding A and pressing Start takes you back to the Minus World. I didn't understand the rest of what he said, though.

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Markio · « **Reply #22 on:** June 14, 2004, 02:38:40 PM »

I liked Glitch City in Pokemon Red and Blue.

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MEGAß¥TE · « **Reply #23 on:** June 14, 2004, 04:02:49 PM »

The GBA version holds the entire NES RAM in its save, so if you were to save after playing in World -1, then it would be like you had just played it the next time you ran the game. In other words, the forum post was correct (amazing for something posted on Nintendo's forums). Unfortunately, it seems that once you save after completing the game once, you also get stuck with Buzzy Beetles instead of Goombas unless you clear the memory (undocumented according to David). Deezer said it was that was in Animal Crossing as well. You'd think they would have done something about that...

WarioLandMan · « **Reply #24 on:** June 14, 2004, 04:11:24 PM »

what's glitch City?

Red Paratroopa · « **Reply #25 on:** June 14, 2004, 04:21:45 PM »

It's glitchin' fun. I remember going into Prof. Oak's lab and hearing the announcement telling me my Safari Zone Game is over.

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Do The Mario! · « **Reply #26 on:** June 15, 2004, 07:16:26 AM »

Pikachu got mad at me though... =( Anyone know why he does? Is it just part of the glitch or was Nintendo aware of it and decided to make Pikachu ge mad when going there because they were?

Do the Mario! Swing your arms from side to side, come on, it''s time to go do the Mario! Take one step, and then again, let''s do the Mario all together now! You got it! It''s the Mario! Do the Mario! Swing your arms from side to side, come on, it''s time to go do the Mario! Take one step, and then again! Let''s do the Mario altogether now! Come on now! Just like that!

Red Paratroopa · « **Reply #27 on:** June 15, 2004, 01:05:01 PM »

I'm not sure about Yellow, I've only played Blue.

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WarioLandMan · « **Reply #28 on:** June 15, 2004, 03:00:41 PM »

I've played all three (still own them, too!)

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Lizard Dude · « **Reply #29 on:** June 18, 2004, 08:06:19 PM »

Bwahahahaha. Minus World is Nintendo's Game Boy Newsletter's Code of the Month.

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Fawful · « **Reply #30 on:** June 23, 2004, 11:55:40 PM »

(For the new people or others here who haven't seen World -1 or the other Minus Worlds checkout:

http://www.masterware.net/hobbies/smb.htm)

However, it is still being a glitch.
If you are losing a life in -2, Mario will restart UNDER a bridge and you will have no choice but to accept the defeating!

The -1 from the cartridge is still in existing!

In the FDS version it is Coin -1(World 45)
In the cartridge it was World 35.

In the FDS version, be sure to take a peeking at Q-1. It contains a Warp Zone like the one that takes you to -1 in the cartridge version.