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Video Games => Video Game Chat => Topic started by: megamush on November 13, 2007, 07:03:14 PM
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Which characters/features/items do you think should be added into Super Smash Brothers Brawl
Characters: General Grievous, Yoda, Darth Vader, Emperor Palpatine, Darth Maul, Mega Man, Blaze The Cat, Shadow The Hedgehog, Young Link, Falco
Features: Character Creater (You can choose moves, body, weopens etc.,kinda like the character creater in Lego Star Wars), Mario Adventure Mode (like levels in super mario bros. but with better graphics and all that)
Items: Luigi Assist Trophy (If not made into a character)
What Do You Want Added?
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In b4 Star Wars isn't a video game property/Nintendo.
I'd also like to see a Fire Emblem rep who doesn't suck and some Advance Wars COs as playable fighters.
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Neither is Snake, but they added him!
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Please say you're the Senator of Sarcasm.
Anyway... Cucco. To replace the parasol. And if you attack it a few times a whole bunch come and won't leave you alone until you've been KO'd.
Or any sort of Nintendo controller (probably a Remote and Nunchuk, but I don't particularly care) that lets you take total control of a randomized opponent for four seconds, immobilizing yourself? Just enough time to get a person off of you, or maybe throw them off the edge.
I wanted Combusken playable, too. Big, fire-breathing, clawed chicken. Not Blaziken--way too not-chicken-like. Can't think of any other characters I'd've wanted that were missed.
Cheer up Mr. Wiggles, Ike doesn't even seem to play like Marth or Roy at all. I'm sure they've not been dropped. Why would they drop O Great high-tier Marth anyway?
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Capitan Olimar and Pikmin would make a neat assist trophy. So would Professor E. Gadd. Maybe Luigi could even be his own character instead of a Mario clone. I gotta say, that would be freaking sweet.
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It won't be too hard to make Luigi his own character instead of a Mario clone. For one thing, give him his Thunder Hand technique from SS instead of the fireball.
I don't know why, but I'd like to see Pac Man as an Assist Trophy.
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Luigi also needs his own voice clips, not sped-up Mario ones.
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Luigi also needs his own voice clips, not sped-up Mario ones.
Quoted for truth. I'll be really upset if they use sped-up Mario voice clips again. There's more than enough Luigi clips available to choose from.
"GOTCHA" for grabbing
And you could pretty much use any of his Luigi's Mansion screams for when he's "blasting off again" (in Team Rocket terms)
Victory: "I'm-a Luigi! Number-a one!"
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I'd like to see Master Chief, but since I'll get yelled at if I say that again, then Simon Belmont. I mean, he's within Nintendo/Konami/Sega circle allowed right now, and his mere presence would make the game 300% awesomer. Same thing for an appearance from the Vic Viper. And if Capcom manages to get one of its characters in, then either Leon Kennedy or Ryu.
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I want Waluigi in Brawl. Why? Because he's cool and he deserves it.
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How about the Star Wars characters I talked about in my original post (the one at the top of this page, Duh!)
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How about that doesn't make any sense at all?
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It's-a-me megamush, the creater of this topic.
I've been wondering if anyone else besides me would like to have a Banzai Bill (like the one in Peach's Castle in Melee) as an item, an if you could guide it to hit a specific location.
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I want Waluigi in Brawl. Why? Because he's cool and he deserves it.
*ERRRR*! try again.
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*ERRRR*! try again.
You know, I'm getting pretty sick and tired of people telling me it's wrong to want Waluigi in Brawl. No one tells me it's wrong to want Mario or Luigi in Brawl because everyone likes them, but it's perfectly fine to tell me it's stupid or wrong to want Waluigi because not everyone likes him. Just once I'd like to say "hey, I want Waluigi in Brawl" without getting an "*ERRRR*" or a "we should just forget about Waluigi."
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Because he is a dumb tacked-on character with no purpose or role in any games.
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Once again, is all of this really necessary? Seriously. I don't see any problems with him wanting Waluigi in Brawl, or even liking Waluigi for that matter. Is his liking Waluigi honestly hindering anyone's enjoyment of video games/this forum/Brawl?
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There isn't anything wrong with him. At all. But there are always going to be people who complain about his existence anyway.
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please talk about the star wars characters coming to brawl before i go mad
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Um, what exactly is this you're talking about? There are no Star Wars characters coming to Brawl. Looks like you'll be going mad now.
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Please stop using nearly-illegible fonts before I go mad!
Yeah, erm, Star Wars characters totally do not belong in SSBB (even less than Waluigi does, to lift a bit of weight off of PL [though Waluigi doesn't have any moves]). They are movie characters. Cheer up though--at least you're not suggesting Goku and Naruto be in it!
Great stuff, Kojinka.
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I think that Waluigi should be added to Brawl, nomatter what any body says.
I wonder what his Final Smash will be, mabe the vine attack from Mario Strikers Charged?
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There isn't anything wrong with him. At all. But there are always going to be people who complain about his existence anyway.
He's a clone's clone, created by some guy from Camelot for a spin-off game. He's a Dick Dastardly rip-off. Unlike, say, Wario or Luigi, Hasn't added anything to the marioverse other than his cheap occupation of multiplayer games. He keeps on managing to find his way into every franchise as a player not allowing a more orginal, or worthy character to join. NO personality, and he sounds like a duck.
I could go on and on about this, but I'll say this: Why must Luigi have a equivalent of everything Mario has?
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I wonder what his Final Smash will be
You act as though he will actually be in the game or something ridiculous like that.
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You act as though he will actually be in the game or something ridiculous like that.
He should be added he is an important character, just because you don't think that doesn't mean that he wont be added!
Know I know why your username is Chupperson Weird
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Today while playing SSBM, I was thinking that some sort of grab/throw-enhancing item would be useful in Brawl. I don't have any particular ideas as to what it would be.
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Maybe some kind of pummeling machine that strapped on to the chest. When you grabbed someone, or maybe just got close to them, it rapidly punches them.
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Waluigi is perfect for what he is now: a partner for Wario in games like Mario Kart: Double Dash!! And a minor character in every Wario fanfic. His own game? He's not heroic or greedy enough to be motivated to have an adventure, and isn't evil enough to be a villain. He's just some rude guy.
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He's a clone's clone, created by some guy from Camelot for a spin-off game. He's a Dick Dastardly rip-off. Unlike, say, Wario or Luigi, Hasn't added anything to the marioverse other than his cheap occupation of multiplayer games. He keeps on managing to find his way into every franchise as a player not allowing a more orginal, or worthy character to join. NO personality, and he sounds like a duck.
I could go on and on about this, but I'll say this: Why must Luigi have a equivalent of everything Mario has?
...Like I said, there will always be be people who will complain about his existence. There really isn't anything wrong with the things you said above, and the things that may be considered wrong don't really apply to him. Like, sounding like a duck? Dude, he doesn't sound like a duck. At all. He sounds like a skinny Wario. And he does have personality. Have you not seen the stuff he pulls in some of the games? If not, I seriously recommend playing Mario Strikers. All I said was I wanted him for Brawl, but apparently I can't even say that without having to explain myself.
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I'd personally like to see Waluigi in a bigger role, but I don't think he should be in Brawl simply because he hasn't been in enough important roles yet, nor is there much demand for him.
imo, he would fit in well alongside Wario in a Popple and Rookie-type role in a M&L sequel, assuming of course Popple and Rookie don't return.
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[though Waluigi doesn't have any moves]).
Actually, he has that rocket kick he uses in Mario Strikers, and the vine whip in Charged.
BTW, I seriously don't think Star Wars characters should be in Brawl. They aren't even video game characters. Yeah, they've been in some video games, but the same could be said for a lot of other characters.
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I just got an idea. A Mario Galaxy-themed stage, complete with circularity and gravity pulling you down towards it. Maybe multiple planetoids, between which you can jump. To be KO'd, you must be sent flying off the sides of the screen--but no matter which direction, you'll fall towards the center in the background/hit the camera as if sent off the top.
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All I said was I wanted him for Brawl, but apparently I can't even say that without having to explain myself.
That's how it works whenever anyone says they want a certain character in Brawl. The character either needs to be someone with a huge role in their series or someone popular enough to warrant being included. That's practically why people look down upon characters like Pichu, Ice Climbers, and any third party character who isn't from the last 2 decades.
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In terms of the games, Pichu means more to the Pokémon series than Jigglypuff. Jigglypuff is only in Smash because the terrible show made it so popular.
The Ice Climbers are there because they wanted a character to represent an old NES arcade game, and Balloon Fighter wasn't cut out for it without personality or potential attacks.
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What's wrong with Waluigi? I wouldn't mind him in Brawl. I mean, if they had to take out a cool character like Sonic for him to be in there, that would suck. And you don't even have to play as him if you don't wan't to!
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What's wrong with Waluigi? I wouldn't mind him in Brawl. I mean, if they had to take out a cool character like Sonic for him to be in there, that would suck. And you don't even have to play as him if you don't wan't to!
Typically in game such as this, yeah, I'd have to play him if I want to unlock stuff.
THE MOST CONTRIVED VIDEO GAME CHARACTER EVER.
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I agree with Bird Person. While my friend and I were playing Melee on Brinstar Depths, I began to think of the Melty Molten Galaxy and said, "They should make a Mario Galaxy stage for brawl!". I mean, think about it. It could be like the side-scrolling stages, too. When you jump close to another planet, you get caught in its gravitational pull or something. And Star Bits could rain from the sky and be picked up and thrown at opponents.
For a character suggestion, Luigi. Not Luigi with Mario's moves, but Luigi. He could have his traits from Galaxy (jumps higher, farther, runs faster, stops harder) and other Mario games. Top it all off with new moves to make a completely original Luigi. His Final Smash could be, like, Mr. L or something where all his attacks are darkness-oriented and twice as powerful.
An assist trophy idea is the Fighting Polygon Team from SSB. We haven't seen them in ages. I guess they could all do some kind of team-based attack to do major damage to your opponents.
I have two suggestions for items:
Floro Sprout- From Super Paper Mario, it could briefly turn your character into a Lv. 9 CPU while you sit back and watch the Brawl for a bit.
Sport Stick- I thought this one up. When you pick it up, it turns into a random sports object like a tennis racket, ping-pong paddle, bowling ball, etc.
On the topic of Waluigi, he is not needed. He was simply created as an extra fill-in for Party and Sports games.
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Luigi was hardly a Mario clone at all in Melee. In fact, most of his attacks are different.
Edit: I don't get why everybody wants Luigi to be so different from Mario. I mean, they started out as the very definition of clones.
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Jigglypuff is only in Smash because the terrible show made it so popular
Can the same be said of Pikachu?
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Why can't everybody just get there mind of off Waluigi being in Brawl... I know this probaly isn't helping!
What about a controllerable Banzai Bill (like the one from Peach's Castle, in Melee) as an Item, not an actual character
Also how about an Item that extand the charactes field of reach, like the extending arm that wario has in Mario Tennis for GameCube. What about that?
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How about an item that lets you edit your posts instead of posting three times in a row? Like a pencil, between a message block and a mailbox?
Yeah TEM, maybe. Now I'm wondering, what would be the mascot of the series if not Pikachu?
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Probably Poliwhirl, since he's Satoshi Tajiri's favorite Pokemon, and it's featured in a lot of merchandise despite never having much of a role in anything.
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For the love of God, please, please, just give us a reference to a Mario RPG. Paper Mario and/or Geno as a character... a Rougeport stage... a Shroob Assist Trophy... Something! C'mon, Intelligent Systems and S-E!
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I think an M&L: Partners in Time stage for adventure is a good idea.
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bird person, I posted that Mario Galaxy stage idea over two months ago on a different fourm. Still, it's a nice level idea and reading yours (Which is pretty much identical to mine but with more detail) I thought of more ideas! Like comets coming randomly and affecting the "rules" of the level. Thats just one example of what that level could have.
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I seriously want to know why a demand for Geno in Brawl even exists. I mean, he's a one shot character from an old RPG that belongs to Square Enix and his only reappearance has been through Mario & Luigi. i can understand when people ask for Daisy, Toad and even the Koopa Kids, but why Geno? Why specifically Geno?
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Because, he's undeniably super-cool. I've only not said anything about wanting him because I know he has no chance.
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I'd like to know where the love for Mallow is. I think he's a better overall character than Geno in terms of personality and abilities. Geno barely had any relevance to the full story of SMRPG aside from being the reason for colllecting the Seven Stars, and even then he only has one shining moment when you find the second one. After that, it's all downhill.
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Yes, Chef, you do have a point about Mallow, but Geno's got that cool factor. I mean, he's all solemn and almost proper. Plus, his attacks make neat sound effects. And he's a doll. I mean, what other Mario game had a possessed doll as a character? Seriously, though, in response to Mr. Wiggles, I think that demand for Geno exsists simply because of the reasons you stated. He's a one shot character from an old RPG that belongs to Square Enix and his only reappearance has been through Mario & Luigi. That's the whole reason people want him back: he hasn't been seen for four years, and his last appearance was as some type of robot-y thing explaining the rules of a minigame.
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I mean, good God, if they can put in the Ice Climbers, they can put in Geno.
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I have to agree. Geno is a very cool character. And his attacks are awesome.
Also, what the heck The Chef, Geno is like 1/3 of the story of the game.
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And Mallow is another 3rd, while Peach and Bowser are the last 3rd.
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How about an item that turns you in to an electric version of whatever character your playing as, like the metal character only electric!
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Er, where exactly would that item come from, and what purpose would it serve?
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It could be a Smash-exclusive item. Not all items are from other games.
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Volt Shroom would be a nice candidate, though I can't really see the advantages that being "turned electric" would bring that the Spicy Curry item already doesn't fulfill.
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All right! Pikachu and electric qualities combined. I'd love to see that.
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And Mallow is another 3rd, while Peach and Bowser are the last 3rd.
Yeah, and Mario is the 0.00001% that's not even worth mentioning.
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Er, where exactly would that item come from, and what purpose would it serve?
I'm saying that there could be an item that turns you electric and stuns any of the other players that you attack, so you can attack the players that are stunned so they get a K.O. Also when you have this item your standard attack becomes like Ness's PK Thunder, a guided orb of electricity. It would be a Smash exclusive item in the shape of a metal ball surrounded in electricity!
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Ugh, Definitely not this (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/music/music15.html).
It's horrendous. It makes me want to brawl for all the wrong reasons.
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Yeah, not that great, but I've heard worse.
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Wow, that song was bad. They should've stuck to the original.
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Hip Tanaka is too hip for you guys.
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While I don't hate that song as most people seem to, I can't say I exactly like it.
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Hip Tanaka is too hip for you guys.
Co-signed. That remix ruled.
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Hip Tanaka is indeed pure amazingness, but that's a different thing altogether.
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Eh, DK is not one of my favorite characters.
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He may be "hip" but that won't save this song from sucking.
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Hip Tanaka is still the master.
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Agreed, which makes it that much more unacceptable.
It's like if, say, DaVinci painted a stick woman.
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It's not bad, but I think I like that one song in DDR:MM better. I think it was called "Mustache, Barrel and Gorilla"
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I'm disappointed with today's update. They could have at least smoothed out the polygons on the pokemon's models. I feel those pokemon got a raw end of the deal.
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I agree. Chupperson thinks that they just reused the models from Melee, and that could very well be the case...
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I think it's safe to say that there will be no clones in Brawl.
EDIT: ^taken back
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Why do you say that? Where the crap did that rumor come from, anyway?
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Me? Well there isn't any yet, and...um...that's it. It'd make sense, for Sakurai to ditch the whole be-lazy concept. But then again there's no Luigi colors for Mario, so I don't know what to think.
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Right. Just because a character hasn't been announced yet, I don't think that means they won't be in the game. Last I heard, the number of characters is supposed to be at least 45. And clone characters are lazy? I see where you're coming from, but what if someone likes Link but doesn't like his uber-limited jump height? Young Link! What if someone likes Captain Falcon but thinks he's too weak? Ganondorf! I don't think they're lazy so much as preference tweaks.
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There's no Captain Falcon yet. Perhaps for that reason? You never know. Maybe they'll make something in between, or maybe they'll just make a separate "character" (you know, move set, ect. I like to call them souls) for each character.
Well, I guess we'll see then won't we?
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Captain Falcon has no chance of being dropped. They wouldn't put a Samurai Goroh assist trophy without him. I think he and Ness will be unlockable as they were in the original Smash.
Clones: why not have them? It's not like Young Link, Falco, Pichu or Dr. Mario had any wasted potential. Ganondorf should've had a sword, sure. I can understand people wishing characters had different movesets, but why wish away clones just because they are clones? The more the merrier, right? Twenty-five characters with clones, or eighteen with none?
Also, for those who can't stand using the same character as another player in the same fight: clones.
Anyway, I'm praying that the tier list isn't so predictable. In Melee we have two fast laser-wielding animals with sharp eyes and stern expressions and a slick, charismatic Japanese guy with a legendary sword. In Smash we had two cute things and a thirteen-year-old. My complaint with Melee's tiers has nothing to do with Ness's downgrade (he is underrated, still ;D), but Fox, Falco and Marth drones are just not cool. Pikachu and Kirby drones, though... those were the days. I hope the Brawl characters are more balanced. Except Pichu, whose job is to be worst, and I don't think Bowser's incredible sluggishness can be compensated.
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Yeah, anyone who says Pikachu is the worst has never seen MegaByte play Smash.
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My song choices for this game were made very carefully after surveying song popularity, using opinions submitted to the Smash Bros. web site and listening to the songs themselves.
But there are also some songs I added based entirely on my own whims. This one song is from a Japan-only Game Boy game called X. If a song is good, that’s enough for me.
Of course, there is no X stage in Super Smash Bros. Brawl, but this time, the songs in Smash Bros. aren’t limited only to those series represented by characters and stages. We’ve pulled some that are from completely unrelated games.
Can you expect to hear this song or that song? You’ll just have to wait and see.
Well... Is he sick of taking suggestions, and this is tactile response? I'll put whatever I want in, and if you don't like it, tough.
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Not sure what you're complaining about, but there was no Mach Rider stage in SSBM either.
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Note to self: Download a ROM of X.
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X is pretty terrible to play, particularly if you can't read Japanese.
But Totaka's song is in it and nobody's found out exactly where yet.
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Note to self: Disregard previous note.
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Captain Falcon has no chance of being dropped. They wouldn't put a Samurai Goroh assist trophy without him. I think he and Ness will be unlockable as they were in the original Smash.
Clones: why not have them? It's not like Young Link, Falco, Pichu or Dr. Mario had any wasted potential. Ganondorf should've had a sword, sure. I can understand people wishing characters had different movesets, but why wish away clones just because they are clones? The more the merrier, right? Twenty-five characters with clones, or eighteen with none?
Also, for those who can't stand using the same character as another player in the same fight: clones.
Anyway, I'm praying that the tier list isn't so predictable. In Melee we have two fast laser-wielding animals with sharp eyes and stern expressions and a slick, charismatic Japanese guy with a legendary sword. In Smash we had two cute things and a thirteen-year-old. My complaint with Melee's tiers has nothing to do with Ness's downgrade (he is underrated, still ;D), but Fox, Falco and Marth drones are just not cool. Pikachu and Kirby drones, though... those were the days. I hope the Brawl characters are more balanced. Except Pichu, whose job is to be worst, and I don't think Bowser's incredible sluggishness can be compensated.
You never know. That's all I can say. I take back the "safe to say" stuff, just cause...well, you never know.
Last I heard, the number of characters is supposed to be at least 45.
P.S. Where'd you hear that?
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Is it just me or does it sound like someone was talking during the beginning of this (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/music/music17.html) recording?
Not bad as 'Donkey Kong' but that's not saying much.
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That's a common thing in "remix" style music tracks. Which this certainly is.
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P.S. Where'd you hear that?
You know, I can't even remember.
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Waluigi isn't going to be a playable character, he is an assist trophy...
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Well, shoot. At least he made it, but I am very disappointed.
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Wah ha ha ha! Have a rotten day.
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It was pretty dumb of me to think they'd actually let him in, but I guess it isn't too bad that they didn't. There are waaaaay more characters to play as, after all.
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It was pretty dumb of me to think they'd actually let him in, but I guess it isn't too bad that they didn't.
Do you mean as a playable character? Because if not... (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/items/assist/assist14.html).
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That's pretty much what we were just talking about. :P
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Well, "too bad they didn't" sounds a bit like they didn't include him at all.
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Mona for assist trophy
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Bah. I wanted Stafy to be playable. Who wouldn;t enjoy watching a tiny starfish beat up big guys like Snake and Fox?
Oh well. All I can do now is try not to hurt Stafy when he comes out.
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Call me crazy, but I wouldn't be surprised if either Waluigi was a boss in Subspace and once you beat him he becomes a playable character and no longer an assist trophy. Sounds like something Nintendo might do.
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You're crazy.
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I know.
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This picture made me laugh. I don't know why I find it so funny, but I do.
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http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/music/music09.html
I love this song.
Off topic EDIT: How do I get songs off the internet and on my Windos Media Player playlist? end off topic
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I also want Young Link added, but with different attacks EX: Instead of bow he uses a slingshot, he uses the Deku Sheild and the Kokiri Sword etc.
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He already used the Deku Shield and Kokiri Sword in Melee. The fire arrows, he used in Majora's Mask. Speaking of, I wouldn't mind if Young Link used those masks in a Pokémon Trainer-switch-style fashion. The Fierce Deity would be a decent Final Smash. Normal Link -> Light and weak Deku Link with great recovery and speed -> Heavy and strong Goron Link with awful recovery and speed -> excelltently balanced Zora Link -> Back again.
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It will probably be the Hero of Winds taking his place. he'll probably have the Hero Sword (I'd like to see the Phantom Blade return as Young Link's answer to the Master Sword) with the Hero Shield(or PH's Wooden shield if the Phantom Blade is used (maybe the Mirror Shield)). His Final Smash would likely be just a variant of the "Tri-Force slash, but I'd like to see the warp-cyclone used. The twirling spin-attack (can't remember the name), Is likely too, since it appeared in both of his games.
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^ Hurricane Spin (and yes, "Celda" Link usurping Young Link is a no-brainer).
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Well, don't go saying the MM link then, unless they come up with new designs for the zora and deku scrub.
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Thay should add Oni Link as one of his costumes!
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Except a costume, by definition, is only supposed to make the character looks aesthetically different, and by far Oni Link is waaaaaay more than just a different-looking Young Link.
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excelltently balanced Zora Link
I would say that regular Link be the "balanced" one. Zora Link could be projectile/energy attack oriented with medium recovery/speed, and to contrast perhaps regular Link would have barely (if any) projectile attacks.
Also a sweet Final Smash alternative would be Fierce Deity and Majora's Mask battling each other fiercely (Fierce Deity Link would attack automatically) and the other opponents just get caught in the ultra destructive crossfire.
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Wario's original outfit confirned! ^_^ :D
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Yeah. I hope Dr. Mario comes back in the same fashion... With pills!
...And I wouldn't mind it if Ness did through Lucas as long as his name (announcer's announcements!), voice, and moves changed to reflect it. PK Flash could stun... But I still think they'll be separate. No other reason to alter PK Fire unless they were clones of each other. And it did say "Wario ALONE is different."
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Wario's original outfit confirned! ^_^ :D
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His "flab" kinda creeps me out!
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Just a thought... would Wario's overalls outfit be available for use in Team Battle (Vs.)? In prior Smash Bros. games, costume changes weren't permitted in Team, and it should be allowed this time as an exception... but still, it'll be interesting to see if it can change.
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Thay should add Oni Link as one of his costumes!
That thay should!
Question: Does everybody call him "Oni Link" because it's cool to use Japanese words, or because "Fierce Deity" is too long?
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I call him "Fierce Deity", though I seldom use him, because he makes the game too easy.
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Oni Link sounds cooler
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And because you can only use him during boss battles without cheating or using a glitch?
"Oni Link" sucks. "Fierce Deity Link" doesn't.
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The one aspect represents the whole?
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Fierce Deity > Oni Link
Where did the term Oni Link even come from?
A game guide? If so the name is a mark of fail and noobness.
A fan fiction or something similar? Then it isn't official.
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I think it's the Japanese term?
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http://zeldawiki.org/Fierce_Deity_Link (http://zeldawiki.org/Fierce_Deity_Link)
Look at the fourth paragraph.
In other words, Chup is right.
Anyway, I think it would be cool if it was possible to hook a DS up to a Wii running Brawl and draw the Pictochat stage as it's being played on. Probably not going to happen, though.
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No.
However, while appropriate, this name is technically not correct, as it is only half the translation. In the Japanese version, the Fierce Deity's Mask was called the Kishin Mask. The Kanji for oni (demon) and kami (god) combined reads kishin; meaning fierce god or fierce deity.
So, in the Japanese, it's the Demon God Mask, and only the Demon half is found in "Oni Link."
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One thing that confuses me: the owl says that the swamp lost its guardian deity (along those lines anyway). Is he referring to one of the four giants, or the "Fierce Deity"?
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^ He means one of the (creepy) Four Giants. Seriously, those guys are, like, 80% legs.
I thought "Oni" meant "adult", or something...
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Who is the owl anyway? I mean, he's kinda creepy. He knows too well where Link is going to be at every turn.
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He only appears twice in Majora's Mask and does something rather helpful each time. In Ocarina of Time he's known as Kaepora Gaebora, is said be a certain Gossip Stone to be a reincarnation of a sage (which I've read is a mistranslation) and is mostly just annoying.
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He had cool eyebrows, though.
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how did we get so off topic?
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Who is the owl anyway? I mean, he's kinda creepy. He knows too well where Link is going to be at every turn.
*gasp* Child predator!
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All those (idiot) "the-Triforce-is-in-OoT-here's-how-to-get-it" net dwellers loved Kaepora Gaebora! He's perfect for weaving into false conspiracy theories, whether it's that he's actually Raru in disguise or that he...oh, it's not worth it.
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How did we get so off topic?
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Being on-topic is lame and boring. If no one is posting about Brawl then obviously no one has anything to say about it, and if we tried to stay on-topic no one would post anything.
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True, getting off - topic is what makes visits to FF so interesting!
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Yes, topics are just springboards for the secret, coin-filled clouds of our minds!
But, yes, in a more topic-related mood, I'd prefer they ditch the Kirby Air Ride-esque wussy white/pink menus.
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I second that. Also an awesome "Dragoon" item has been added to the mix! http://smashbros.com/en_us/items/item14.html (http://smashbros.com/en_us/items/item14.html)
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Yes, topics are just springboards for the secret, coin-filled clouds of our minds!
But, yes, in a more topic-related mood, I'd prefer they ditch the Kirby Air Ride-esque wussy white/pink menus.
Kirby Air Ride could kick your rear to Lethal Lava Land and back again.
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I'm not saying Kirby Air Ride was easy (on the contrary, I'm convinced that some of the missons are literally impossible--but that is what you were implying, right?), just that Brawl goes down a few pegs on the "xtreme" scale when the symbol for "Friend Battle", or whatever, is a big, pink heart.
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Brawl goes down a few pegs on the "xtreme" scale when the symbol for "Friend Battle", or whatever, is a big, pink heart.
They needed something to tone it down after we got "Intense Mode"
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"Intense mode"?
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Because Very Hard is for n00bs.
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^ 0_o ...And they got rid of Very Easy for that?
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Just think of Easy as the new Very Easy, etc.
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Or maybe Sakurai made it harder.
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*Typical SNL sketch about Starbucks pops into my mind*
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I'm not saying Kirby Air Ride was easy (on the contrary, I'm convinced that some of the missons are literally impossible--but that is what you were implying, right?), just that Brawl goes down a few pegs on the "xtreme" scale when the symbol for "Friend Battle", or whatever, is a big, pink heart.
I meant that it's a kicking game as a whole. Real men use pink menus screens.
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I seriously don't know why people just start thinking it's okay to swear here and think the censors will catch it. =/
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As long as the censors catch it, it's fine. There's no "no swearing" rule.
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While the rule in mention is "No deliberately getting around the censors," you shouldn't bother trying to invoke the censors, anyway. That's common sense. The censors are for some of the most heinous choices of language (to fix it immediately), the moderators determine what is going over the edge.
So don't be spreading foolish logic.
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I think the censors should just be turned on by default and be allowed to be turned off by people who don't mind swearing, as they are now. If people who don't like it don't see it, then where's the problem?
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The problem is that the original parties still swear. In public. This is not an issue up for debate on the Fungi Forums.
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I hate swearing and I don't want to see this every day. Ahem:
I totally beat the [beep] [beep] out of that [beep] yesterday because he [beep] [beep] me off by calling me a [beep]!
That could get annoying.
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Censoring is almost as annoying (and almost as insulting) as what it covers up. That's why I make it my goal to make censoring a funny occasion, usually.
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I'm starting to get confused here. I wasn't aware the "mods" had some sort of hive mind.
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I actually don't mind a little swearing (like TC's comment) unless it's something extreme (like Tendo's Dirty Chips topic before it was edited).
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What was that topic about?
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Tendo wrote a story about something nasty. He then edited it to be less nasty.
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I wasn't aware the "mods" had some sort of hive mind.
While I didn't explicitly say that the moderators all individually decide what's "going over the edge," I didn't say they decide together, either. So I don't think I described them as a collective that strongly.
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how do you turn off censors?
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The same way you become a mod. By bringing Deezer the head of another mod.
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Here's the knife:
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Seriously, I wanna see someone's head fall off this time.
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That looks like something that you would cut Play-Doh with.
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That's the joke, my friend.
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Cream Cheese, to be more precise.
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thats getting a little too old
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Speaking of old, I'm quite pleased with the selection of Melee stages that are returning in Brawl. Yoshi's Island (SMW) and Onett are among my favorites (let's hope they don't screw around with the music too much). What I really want from the first Smash is the Mushroom Kingdom stage--the pipes and POW blocks were dangerously cool.
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I appreciate them bringing back the cool old stages and all, but it kind of comes across like they're too lazy to make any new stages that aren't just like this: ---__--__---
That, and if you're buying Brawl, you probably own a Wii, and, also, if you're buying Brawl, you probably bought Melee, and if you did, you probably have a Gamecube, and the Wii plays GCN and supports the GCN controller (in Brawl), so if you want to play Onett and Yoshi's Island, just play Melee.
Yes, I am aware that this arguement is riddled with holes, but I just had to get it off my chest.
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WITNESS! Your testimony is riddled with holes! I had to get that off my chest too.
On the Brawl site today they just announced the Multi-man Brawls. I happy that in this game you can do co-op and Wi-Fi co-op in them.
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As I said in the chatroom last night, the Yellow Alloy looks like a yellow version of the Geolytes from Meteos.
Onett returning means we can play Ness vs. Lucas in towns from their respective games.
(in b4 "Ness isn't going to be in Brawl," because unless some other native of the town is going to be playable, there's no other real reason AT ALL for Onett to be in there anymore)
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Other than that Onett was somewhat unique and Sakurai wanted to show it again.
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Unique indeed--I know of no other town where the cars can hit you when they're in the road and you are not.
I appreciate them bringing back the cool old stages and all, but it kind of comes across like they're too lazy to make any new stages that aren't just like this: ---__--__---
That, and if you're buying Brawl, you probably own a Wii, and, also, if you're buying Brawl, you probably bought Melee, and if you did, you probably have a Gamecube, and the Wii plays GCN and supports the GCN controller (in Brawl), so if you want to play Onett and Yoshi's Island, just play Melee.
Quite the opposite. They're working too hard to make stages dynamic... The Summit would have been perfect just as a stationary stage (unique design, low traction would really provide a home-team advantage). But, it somehow falls into the ocean. I rather doubt it but I hope it'll stay fixed for at least two minutes (so when we're playing a 2-minute 3-stock random-stage match it stays still).
But I'm sure plenty of stages are uneventful... they're just not fit for st-stuttering and exclamations of "Could it be!?!?!?!?!"
I'm so disappointed. I was really counting on this game's fighting ----- team to be Miis.
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Man, I was hoping for Mute City to return. That's my favorite Melee stage.
Sakurai must hate F-Zero or something. The only update relating to it was the first Assist Trophy, which took one of the major supporting characters from F-Zero and deems him unworthy of being playable.
I'm not a huge F-Zero fan, but it really bothers me to see it get as many updates as a stage based on a DS program.
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I don't really care to much about stages right now since you can make your own stages with the stage creator.
But if I did have to think of a stage, I would pick Mario Bros as a stage (the arcade game)
For a new character, I would pick knuckles (from the Sonic games) Why him instead of tails you ask? Because he has better attacking moves then tails does. I just think that we need 1 more Sonic member in the game since theirs only 1 representing the Sonic games.
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That isn't a good argument for more Sonic characters at all.
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Captain Olimar joins!
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I just think that we need 1 more Sonic member in the game since there's only 1 representing the Sonic games.
One is much more than enough for me.
Olimar. Sounds like the character to not use if sudden deaths happen a lot. I was surprised--I didn't think any more characters would be shown until at least the Japanese release...
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I really really really really really really really would like Knuckles.
Don't really care if any other Sonic characters make it, tho.
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Holy ****, Olimar!
...Well, I didn't think they'd do it, considering he's supposed to be an inch tall (and, yes, I'm perfectly aware that Kirby is, like , 8", and Pikachu is about a foot, but this requires quite a stretch of the imagination), but yet I still somehow knew...
Hey, when I go to the front page, he's not there and there's no update at all! What gives?
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Why is the picture titled "Pikmin" though, when clearly Olimar is the one playable? It's like a reverse Pokemon Trainer ordeal.
Oh well, I'm just glad to see 2 of my 3 most wanted characters appear playable.
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Here's what I want:
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Actually, it could just be Plok, and I'd be happy. But more realistically, all I need is Dr. Mario and Mr. L alternate costumes, Wind Waker Link, and Geno, plus everything on the site.
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So why is Ness in that image? XP
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More importantly, what do you want Plok so much for? He only had one "sleeper hit."
Also, Tingle?! Did you make this image?!
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What new thing I want in Brawl: Subject-verb-object agreement.
This game's winner is... Ice Climbers!
This game's winner is... Pikmin and Olimar!
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Yeah I'm pretty sure Plok isn't going to happen. A guy with a game about searching for his flag or whatever (socks?) ... nevermind, Ice Climbers made it so anyone can.
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Not all of them are characters I want, some are just ones I think are likely, like Bowser Jr. or Tingle. I want Plok in for the same reason Pit and Ice Climbers should be in: he's an obscure character who only got one game which should have gotten a lot more attention and who has a huge moveset potential. I know he has worse chances than Banjo-Kazooie, but who would have ever guessed Ice Climbers or Dr. Mario?
I noticed I somehow forgot to put Ryuta Kawashima's floating head on there. As weird as he is, I wouldn't count him out entirely. The fact that he's based on a real person shouldn't be too big of an issue, since Dr. Wright, based on Will, got in. If he was in, I could see him being the new Mr. Game & Watch -- not that G&W should be cut, but that the feeling of unlocking a complete WTD newcomer with a weird fighting style at the end (especially one rendered in primitive graphics that launched Nintendo's handheld system) would be transferred to him. Besides, his theme song is already in.
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Tell me you wouldn't love to KO Pikachu by yelling "BRUE!" at him.
Also, I may have said this already, but I want to see a Paper Mario stage that turns everyone on it into paper versions, instead of just adding Paper Mario as a character. I want to see Paper Sonic, Paper Ganondorf, Paper Captain Falcon, ... and Paper Plok.
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Have I ever mentioned how much I hate Lucario and if he makes it into Brawl I will be a bit disappointed?
However, K.Rool and Dixie in that fantasy wishlist makes up for the fail that is Lucario.
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Who's Plok?
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Nintendo. Add Ridley. Now. NOW.
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Ah, how about some Phoenix Wright characters?
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Have I ever mentioned how much I hate Lucario and if he makes it into Brawl I will be a bit disappointed?
However, K.Rool and Dixie in that fantasy wishlist makes up for the fail that is Lucario.
What's wrong with Lucario? Is it because he's like the antithesis of Mewtwo? At least he's a fighting-type Pokemon...
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Ah, how about some Phoenix Wright characters?
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Who's Plok?
AT LAST, A REAL HERO!
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Plok is an irresistible, irrepressible, unstoppable, highly improbable and downright dangerous bundle of pure energy.
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Plok does not like fleas.
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Plok has the amazing ability to fire all his body parts at will -- Plok can really 'throw' a punch.
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Plok has a very short fuse; at the slightest irritation those limbs begin to fly.
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Plok hates fleas.
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Plok is a true hero, with a heart of gold and joints of the highest-quality Velcro.
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Plok is a man with a mission: he is dedicated to ridding the world of the menace of the dreaded Fleas.
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Plok is a dreamer, a wanderer, a free spirit. He's suave and elegant. He's grade-A, first-class prime cut.
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Plok really does not like fleas.
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Plok is the king of the beautiful island called Akrillic, part of the archipelago Poly-Esta.
Everyone knows that Plok is simply crazy about flags (of course you do!). He has them everywhere. He uses them to mark out which parts of Akrillic (he thinks) belongs to him. His flags are all over the place! Now, what you may not know is that Plok has a particular favorite flag, a big square one with a picture of himself on it. He keeps this special flag on top of his own house so that he can see it every day when he gets up and every night when he returns from a hard day of... uh, of being Plok!
If you were a despicable character and you wanted to upset Plok or get him out of the way for some reason, what would you do? Hide his special flag? Well, that’s exactly what happened today! Somebody, he doesn’t know who, has stolen his special flag and placed it on nearby Cotton Island. As you can imagine, Plok is hopping mad about this. First thing this morning he set off in his boat to retrieve his property. But knowing Plok, he’s not gonna leave it at that. Nope, no way!
Anyway, that’s the story so far, but there may be more to this business than meets the eye...
(taken from one of the best manuals in SNES history)
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Shoot these people.
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I'm pretty sure Sakurai would make sure there aren't any punctuational errors in his translated updates.
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I'm pretty sure I've seen at least one typographical error in the English updates...
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What's wrong with Lucario? Is it because he's like the antithesis of Mewtwo? At least he's a fighting-type Pokemon...
No, it's mainly his design that bothers me. He looks like a recolored Blaziken with Poochyena's face photoshopped on him. Not to mention despite being pretty powerful, he has too many weaknesses in the game, specifically being KO'd in one hit with Earthquake, but then again, it feels like Earthquake was powered up in Diamond and Pearl.
I still don't know how Ridley could work in the game, but if they can make C. Olimar and a Pokemon Trainer with a Charizard work, I guess they can manage him.
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This is the place where you can post what characters, stages, items, or features do you think should have made it into Brawl...
My Brawl ideas:
Characters:
-Master Cheif
-Megaman
-Roy
Stages:
-None
Features:
-None
So What did you want to be added?
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Sorry, but megamush beat you to this one, megamush.
http://themushroomkingdom.net/board/index.php?topic=11009.0
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Why in God's name did you post that, megamush?
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Why in God's name did you post that, megamush?
I thought I was making a new topic which people could post what they wished could be in brawl after it already released (in Japan), just another one of my errors!
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Knuckles or Robotnik should have been an AT, not that stupid emo, Shadow.
Mario should have had his doctor's lab coat for an alt costume. Seriously, if they were able to do that for Wario, why couldn't they do that for Mario?!
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I'm really hoping for downloadable content to come later on (and bring back Pichu and Mewtwo, give Mario a Dr. Mario alternate costume, and not put in Pac-Man or Master "Cheif." But, I don't know if that's possible--the stages that are sent over Wi-Fi are all constructible in the Stage Builder, so they "already exist" in the game. Adding a whole new character would be another story, wouldn't it...?
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Adding a whole new character would be another story, wouldn't it...?
Yes. The game would have to be rebalanced for the addition of that character. Assuming Nintendo were charging for downloadable characters, careful care would need to be taken with balancing it so it wouldn't look like Nintendo was favoring people who pay more.
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I doubt they would charge people to download new characters. I mean, they packaged Wii Sports with the console for free, several Wii Channels are free, they replaced the wrist straps for free, sent Remote Jackets for free, Wii Play comes with a free Remote, and even Nintendo's WFC is free.
What I was thinking was more like this... for stages, it's a bunch of zeros and ones telling the game to put this platform here, and this bed of spikes here. I may be underestimating what can be sent (and I hope I am), but I imagine that sticking a whole new character into the game with new textures, voice clips and things wouldn't be as simple.
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Some games do that already. I think it is a terrible, terrible idea, but that doesn't stop developers from being lazy. Also I would expect the game has to have a preprogrammed ability to accept new stuff because patching a game would be hard on a console otherwise. That, and the Wii doesn't have a ton of memory. But theoretically this stuff is possible. And possible to be charged for.
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Even worse are the games that have "downloadable content" already on the disc, and you have to pay to unlock it.
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Knuckles or Robotnik should have been an AT, not that stupid emo, Shadow.
At least he does something true to his character, Chaos Control, and Knuckles does appear in the game along with Tails as part of the background in the Green Hill stage, while Eggman made it in as a trophy. Still, complaining about Sonic content isn't worth it in a game that's supposed to be about Nintendo.
Mario should have had his doctor's lab coat for an alt costume. Seriously, if they were able to do that for Wario, why couldn't they do that for Mario?!
Because it would be really weird seeing Dr.Mario throwing fireballs, using FLUDD and being billed as just "Mario" on the various character screens.
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At least he does something true to his character, Chaos Control, and Knuckles does appear in the game along with Tails as part of the background in the Green Hill stage, while Eggman made it in as a trophy. Still, complaining about Sonic content isn't worth it in a game that's supposed to be about Nintendo.Because it would be really weird seeing Dr.Mario throwing fireballs, using FLUDD and being billed as just "Mario" on the various character screens.
DON'T CALL HIM EGGMAN. CALL HIM ROBOTNIK.
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They're both canonical. What's the big deal. AND WHY ARE YOU TYPING IN ALL CAPS?
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^ Well, he's... angry, I guess. I mean, c'mon, IT'S ROBOTNIK, DANGIT! ;)
Mario should have had his doctor's lab coat for an alt costume. Seriously, if they were able to do that for Wario, why couldn't they do that for Mario?!
Because Mario didn't dress in a lab coat for the first decade of his existance.
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They're both canonical. What's the big deal. AND WHY ARE YOU TYPING IN ALL CAPS?
BECAUSE I HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE CALL HIM EGGMAN. HIS NAME IS ROBOTNIK. GOT IT CHUMP?
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His name is Eggman. His name was never Robotnik. That was just made up for dumb Americans.
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His name is Eggman. His name was never Robotnik. That was just made up for dumb Americans.
That would be okay if SOA hadn't given him an American name and then change it back to his Japanese name. Why couldn't SOA just stick with Robotnik? NOA stuck with Bowser.
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LEAVE ROBOTNIK ALONE! *sobs*
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NOA however didn't stick with Toadstool.
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Yes, and no. Today, the Toadstool name is accepted as the Princess' last name. It makes sense since most of her subjects are anthropomorphic toadstools
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I forgot if I posted to this thread. I like the name Princess Toadstool better than Peach (but it's a mouthful, so I say Princess). I like the name Bowser better than Koopa. I like the name Robotnik better than Eggman. But I like Kuribo better than Goomba, Kinopio better than Toad (although I don't give a rat's tooth about him), and Purin better than Jigglypuff.
Shadowbrain, I nominate Krystal for the next "LEAVE _____ ALONE!". Or Fox or Jigglypuff or Geno or Toad. Is there a word for hating and sympathizing with someone at the same time?
Except for Tingle (Zelda MM) and Slippy Toad (SF64).
I want to see Fara Phoenix in some form, anything, any small role, either in a Smash Bros. game or Star Fox game, sometime in the future. I don't care if the comics aren't canon, there's Fara fans out there, darn it.
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I'm good with the localized names, except shortening Princess Toadstool to Toadstool (Super Mario RPG) was cool. Purin's voice drives me up the wall. I can't STAND it when it does its Final Smash. It reminds me of this bratty x 12 girl I knew in middle school... Jigglypuff's is more suited for the little puffity thing it is.
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I want to see Fara Phoenix in some form, anything, any small role, either in a Smash Bros. game or Star Fox game, sometime in the future. I don't care if the comics aren't canon, there's Fara fans out there, darn it.
Wait... who's he/she?
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Yes, and no. Today, the Toadstool name is accepted as the Princess' last name. It makes sense since most of her subjects are anthropomorphic toadstools
...and it's confirmed in both Sonic Adventures that Eggman's full name is Dr. Ivo "Eggman" Robotnik. Both of them are canonical names. Tell SushieBoy I can call Eggman what ever I want.
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Wait... who's he/she?
Fara Phoenix was from the Star Fox comics (American version, seen in Nintendo Power), chief test pilot for the Arwing (how convenient), and was hinted at being Fox's love interest. The comics briefly followed the story of the SNES game, but quickly went in its own direction. At least it has James speaking to his son Fox from a space whale.
That's actually the first thing I remember: my first issue of Nintendo Power was at Act 8 of the comics, with the space whale and the battle on Fortuna (and a brief appearance by Fara). I was so bummed when I subscribed to Nintendo Power and the second issue I got was JUST after the comics ended. So really early on I was hooked on these comics, even though I hadn't played the game yet at the time, and for five years I wondered who that vixen was. Found the comics on DarkFox's Domain, then vulpes.org, then sfx64.com, and now most recently on Arwing Landing. I've been with Star Fox since near the beginning.
Star Fox comics (http://arwinglanding.net/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=1)
Page which lets you look at the American, German (translated to English), or Japanese (translated to English) comics. The latter two are based off Star Fox 64 (http://arwinglanding.net/gallery/index.php?cat=5)
By the way, those scans of the American comic are legendary. Flawless, huge, clear as crystal.
Maybe it is pointless to hate either Fara or Krystal, and just silently accept that Fara's never coming back. But yeah, it's another one of those "who is better" debates that never ends.
Speaking of comics, from what I remember there was also a Super Metroid comic (check it out over at the Metroid Database), a Blast Corps comic, a Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire comic, and a bunch of Nester comics. Nester appeared in Pilotwings 64 as Lark. It'd be a lovely bit of nostalgia to see a trophy of Lark in his hang glider in the next Smash Bros. game.
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penguinwizard, Fara actually was in the first build of Star Fox 2. At any rate, she belongs to the old continuity. When they made Star Fox 64, they rebooted the series. The SNES game, the Benimaru Itoh comic, and Star Fox 2 belong in their own continuity, and don't coincide with the one started in Star Fox 64. Course, that doesn't stop them from using the good music in Smash Bros.
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Fara Phoenix was from the Star Fox comics (American version, seen in Nintendo Power), chief test pilot for the Arwing (how convenient), and was hinted at being Fox's love interest. The comics briefly followed the story of the SNES game, but quickly went in its own direction. At least it has James speaking to his son Fox from a space whale.
In which case I nominate that one dude who could turn into an eagle from the Legend of Zelda NP comics as a character!
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I elect Friendly Floyd. With his endless supply of convenient gadgets, he could dominate the fray.
Actually, if Friendly Floyd were canonical, he'd be an awesome Assist Trophy.
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With any luck, it could net us another appearance by the Koopalings.
Oh, and Ephermelda would have made a decent canonical Zelda character, even though she was more or less a prototype Navi.
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I nominate Herman Smirch from the Game Boy comics series as an Assist Trophy. When he appears, he pulls out his Game Boy and Tatanga and every enemy from Super Mario Land come out. Best Assist Trophy ever.
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I elect Friendly Floyd. With his endless supply of convenient gadgets, he could dominate the fray.
LOL... of course!
Oh, and Ephermelda would have made a decent canonical Zelda character, even though she was more or less a prototype Navi.
Ephermelda... was that the fairy from the LoZ comics? I don't remember a name being mentioned, but then again, I don't have the whole series...
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YEEEEESSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!! You can change between Zero Suit Samus and Power Suit Samus with out doing a Final Smash!!!!!
(sorry, i'm just really happy that you don't have to wait for a smash ball anymore!)
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...Anymore? You never had to.
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Ephermelda... was that the fairy from the LoZ comics? I don't remember a name being mentioned, but then again, I don't have the whole series...
Yep.
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...Anymore? You never had to.
I know... it's kind of weird to refer to a game that hasn't come out yet in the semi-past tense.
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I suppose I'll revive this thread for things we'd like to see in the next game (or perhaps a new thread or a different thread's revival would be more fitting).
I want a random character switch to assign to a player's name. To explain, I'd like to be able to use the character randomizer but always get one of my favorite characters. The randomizer in Brawl loves giving me Donkey Kong for some reason, and to be frank, I do not like playing as him at all. What we have is a good start--it prevents the use of "punching bags" when playing computer players, at least (you had Bowser's name for all the negative Melee records too, didn't you? Actually I had Marth, but hmm).
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I suppose I'll revive this thread for things we'd like to see in the next game (or perhaps a new thread or a different thread's revival would be more fitting).
I want a random character switch to assign to a player's name. To explain, I'd like to be able to use the character randomizer but always get one of my favorite characters. The randomizer in Brawl loves giving me Donkey Kong for some reason, and to be frank, I do not like playing as him at all. What we have is a good start--it prevents the use of "punching bags" when playing computer players, at least (you had Bowser's name for all the negative Melee records too, didn't you? Actually I had Marth, but hmm).
That's probably the best idea I've heard that has nothing to do with Master Chief and Peter Griffin being in SSB 4
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Don't forget Gwonam!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q788QaZnXp8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvslH4pYFco
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I want a level where the gravity randomly changes. Your plying on the bottom of the screen, then your playing on the side, then your playing on the top.
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More Yoshi colors
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More Yoshi colors
I've been saying that for years.
Esp. black and white.
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Randomized/controlled intros (like taunts/victory poses) would be cool.
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You can control victory poses with B, X ad Y. For example, holding X at a match's end as a victorious Ness always gets you the bat. Y gets you jump-jump-nod-nod, and B gets him to look around and scratch his head. This could be done in Melee, too, but I don't know about the original...
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I want a level where the gravity randomly changes. Your plying on the bottom of the screen, then your playing on the side, then your playing on the top.
Spear Pillar, anyone?
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Spear Pillar does satisfy some of those things, but the fact that the controls essentially reverse at the same time is NOT FUN.
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This could be done in Melee, too, but I don't know about the original...
As far as I know, the original game had only one taunt per character.
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I'm talking about victory poses, and they have always had three of them.
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Oh, you mean after you win. Then I guess I never tried controlling that, but for all I know it could be possible.
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Spear Pillar does satisfy some of those things, but the fact that the controls essentially reverse at the same time is NOT FUN.
Things like that are hilarious for me and my friends when they come over and play. Stages like that one along with WarioWare, Halberd, Norfair, Rumble Falls, PictoChat, and so on can only be enjoyed to the fullest with friends. I mean.... fighting over the safe spot in Norfair before the lava tidal wave kills you is really exiting. Along with dodging the cross hairs of the doubled barreled cannon in Halberd and throwing others into the blast is hilarious. And getting out of the cave section in Spear Pillar before the beam kills you is awesome.... I think I'm getting off topic..
You can control victory poses with B, X ad Y. For example, holding X at a match's end as a victorious Ness always gets you the bat. Y gets you jump-jump-nod-nod, and B gets him to look around and scratch his head. This could be done in Melee, too, but I don't know about the original...
I can almost guarantee that it works in the original with the C buttons.
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I think it's about time we get a Puzzle Collection stage type of deal. It would be similar to Flat Zone 2 but it would cycle through games such as Puzzle League, Dr. Mario, Yoshi's Cookie, Polarium, and Picross. It would be a perfect excuse to bring back Dr. Mario and bring in Lip as a lol obscure/random character with high requirements to unlock and both could share the stage in Classic and All Star.
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Polarium blows, but you've got something there...
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What are you talking about? Polarium was awesome. Also, Mr. Wiggles, you forgot Meteos (which definitely should've appeared somewhere in Brawl, considering that Sakurai worked on the game and all...at least there's a Geolyte in the game, albeit a miscolored one) and maybe Magnetica.
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ShadowBrain just doesn't know much about video games, that's all.
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I still want a stage full of giant floating Nintendo hardware. That could've easily worked as a stage for ROB.
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I think it's about time we get a Puzzle Collection stage type of deal. It would be similar to Flat Zone 2 but it would cycle through games such as Puzzle League, Dr. Mario, Yoshi's Cookie, Polarium, and Picross. It would be a perfect excuse to bring back Dr. Mario and bring in Lip as a lol obscure/random character with high requirements to unlock and both could share the stage in Classic and All Star.
Awesome idea, but I would included Tetris. The game's music is in Brawl, after all.
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I agree with the puzzle stage idea as well as the hardware one.
It's happened as a battle stage in Mario Kart Double Dash!! (well, GameCube, at least), so why not?
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I want an Excite Truck stage with randomly generated terrain. Only downside is it'd have to have Excite Truck music on it...
Hmm...
I also want to play songs from an SD card.
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I also want to play songs from an SD card.
Don't we all... (eh, I actually figure I can just lower the in-game music level and play my own stuff from external speakers if I want it so bad, but it still would be a nice built-in thing, no matter how much music Brawl has)
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Or at least make every song playable on every stage. (or is that something you unlock later?) I love 75m, but it only has one decent song, and that one gets repetitive pretty quickly.
In fact, that would go well with the idea that someone had (can't remember if it was here or on GameFAQs) to be able to edit existing stages in the stage editor, which would let tourney players conform stages to their idea of fairness, and allow me to put the Douchuumann song, or however it's spelled, on 75m.
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You guys are stupid for wanting to insert other music into (or over) the game's music. It is a horrible and bad idea.
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You guys are stupid
Isn't that typically considered flaming? And honestly, it's not that stupid.
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Yeah, I get into the mood for all sorts of music. Sure, video game music is great, but sometimes I just urge something different.
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I don't want to put it over the game's music, I want to put it alongside the game's music. That's why just turning down the music and playing music over my own speakers isn't enough.
Besides, it came up when I was mentioning an Excite Truck stage. You'd rather listen to Excite Truck rock than, say, Queen? Or Okkusenman? Or Chocolate Rain?
For a final illustration, as good as the Zelda music in Brawl is, could any of it ever match the epicness of Falcon Punching R.O.B. off the Pictochat stage while Never Gonna Give You Up plays in the background? I didn't think so.
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I'd almost only use a feature like that for custom stages. The other stages have plenty of tracks that actually turned out pretty well, contrary to the impression the music updates on the DOJO gave me. Though, I would like to add some things to some stages such as Onett, which bums me out that all its music is not directly taken from EarthBound, but Mother.
I love 75m, but it only has one decent song, and that one gets repetitive pretty quickly.
Reversed for me. 75m and Mario Bros. were good ideas, but suck as stages. I hate stages that kill players instantly, or at least twice as often as other players. Rumble Falls fit this category with those poison-looking spikes. But they (Mario Bros. and 75m) have some good music.
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It would be fine for custom stages.
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It would be nice if they had the original bread-and-butter SMB overworld theme. Classic.