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Video Games => Mario Chat => Topic started by: Fawful Fan on August 27, 2008, 07:21:05 PM
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Disconnectors and snakers made the Mario Kart DS online mode a very frustrating experience to me. Needless to say, I'm really enjoying Mario Kart Wii's Wi-Fi modes, but a few days ago I logged online with Mario Kart DS out of curiosity. I was surprised to see that I raced with no snakers. I connected again day after day, and so far I've never seen any snakers! What's happened to them? Has anybody seen them? Have they all moved on to Mario Kart Wii? Not that I'm complaining with the lack of snaking, but I'm just surprised with these results. Has anybody noticed this?
Gee, maybe Mario Kart DS online is playable again...
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They finally realised that it sucked being a snaker, and also realised that they were only playing against other snakers. Apparently they all sold their games when they came to this epiphany.
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Yeah, winning a game because you're good at it instead of depending on items sucks. When snakers learned that they all went to play Mario Party, the most fun game ever.
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Yeah, winning a game because you're good at it instead of depending on items sucks. When snakers learned that they all went to play Mario Party, the most fun game ever.
I'm not saying that it didn't take skill to become good at snaking, but it's not fun to play against other snakers when you're not a snaker.. The fact that they were usually two laps ahead of you didn't help when you got the good items (Lightning, Triple Shell, ect..)
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I think the REAL problem is is that Snaking is a TACTIC and a STRATEGY, not CHEATING, like most people seem to think.
And NO, I am not a snaker.
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Probably the only play with other snakers in clans or something, where the real challenge is.
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I'm a "snaker" as they call it, and I really don't play Mario Kart DS online anymore, because I've had the game for a long time already and played it to a pulp, and playing random strangers online with no form of communication isn't exactly a wonderful online experience. Sure I could kick their buttocks in every single race with my eyes closed*, but I can already do that on the Grand Prix, and those opponents actually put up a fight.
*figuratively speaking. I can't beat anyone with my eyes closed.
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What's a snaker??
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One who snakes, powersliding left and right on straightaways. If you've ever been just barely behind first place with no other means to gain speed than to power slide, you have probably snaked before. It's noticeably harder in some Mario Kart games than in others, with Double Dash and especially DS being where it's easiest. But in Wii I still try... I do what I can to get an extra power slide in.
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Maybe it's not cheating per se, but maybe it's to denote a different class of players. Those who snake (I'm assuming it's the same in Mario Kart DS as in F-Zero GX) exploit some glitch or hard-to-do thing in the game to leave everyone else in their dust. Players who can't snake can't hope to catch up. Players who do snake are in the same league and become challengers for snakers. But if anyone calls a Mario Kart DS player an amateur because they can't snake, go ahead and punch their lights out. They're just different classes of players.
I'm saying this in a vain attempt to justify getting totally whooped by some veteran players at Smash Bros. Melee, who were shinesparking and move-canceling and top+A-on-the-ground'ing all over the place. They looked like they were floating. Yes they're experts, but they're also on a whole other plane that I don't think I'd ever reach unless I learned those moves. Does that make me a beginner? I don't think so.
By the way, recently got Smash Bros. Brawl. Woo! I think Sakurai said that people who play Brawl expecting Melee moves and speed and all that are going to have a hard time adjusting. And... yeah. I mean, it's going to take me a while to get used to it, Brawl definitely feels different from Melee. And everything does seem slower, or at least characters have been given wider ranges in speed. Because of this, I'm back to liking Fox again since he can move.
But one of these days, I'm going to have to put Bunny Ears on Sonic and watch him outrace the racers at Big Blue for myself.
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Anti-snakers are major scrubs (http://www.sirlin.net/ptw/intermediates-guide/introducing-the-scrub), no two ways about it.
I've also recently met hundreds of scrubs in online Soulcalibur IV.
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But one of these days, I'm going to have to put Bunny Ears on Sonic and watch him outrace the racers at Big Blue for myself.
Maybe it's just me, but on those rare, wonderful occasions when I'm playing as a Bunny Hood-clad Sonic, he doesn't really seem that much faster (but, c'mon... it would be, well, dangerous for him to be much faster).
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Anti-snakers are major scrubs (http://www.sirlin.net/ptw/intermediates-guide/introducing-the-scrub), no two ways about it.
I've also recently met hundreds of scrubs in online Soulcalibur IV.
Mario Kart is serious business.
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If you don't play to win, don't complain when you lose.
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powersliding left and right on straightaways.
Thats what I do. It's not cheating, it just gives you a boost so you can get ahead! It was built into the game to intentionally be used so therefore it is not cheating.
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Where Have All the Snakers Gone?
They're still there... just really far ahead of you.
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They're still there... just really far ahead of you.
Good one!
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Ooh, burn... ("ZING!" title = Win)
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Oh, I thought this topic said "Where Have All the Sneakers Gone?" My bad.
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I propose a song, with this thread's title, to the tune of "Where Have All the Cowboys Gone".
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I don't really know, but Mario Kart DS has become a lot more fun and enjoyable now. People who actually play the game for the fun and suspenseful experience of it take up the majority of the network now, and that's the way I like it. Now that I'm a lot worse at snaking, and the game as well, playing online appeals to me a lot more as it makes for the type of experience that Nintendo intended for players to have...
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NINTENDO, YOU'RE SO AWESOME FOR TAKING "SNAKING" OUT OF MARIO KART WII!!!
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Suspense isn't for Mario Kart. Suspense is for RPG plots and Mario Party. Ah Mario Party. The game where you can be winning and still lose.
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There's a reason they let you turn the Bonus Stars off, BP.
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So that Bowser and Reversal of Fortune can dictate the winners and the Mini Game Star I always get can't even save me?
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Snaking is an accidental tactic which I'd consider cheating and annoying. If Miyamoto or anyone saw snaking they'd fall to their knees and say My God What Have I Done (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MyGodWhatHaveIDone)?
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It was put in the game on purpose.
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(See: Staff ghosts)
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All these people who think the devs had no idea snaking was possible or would happen, do they think games get tested by like one dude over a weekend or something?
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So that Bowser and Reversal of Fortune can dictate the winners and the Mini Game Star I always get can't even save me?
See, this is why the N64 parties are better. Less Chance Time spaces (that's their original name) and no Bowser mini-games.
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I dunno, I'm just not used to seeing people mini-turboing everything. How many times have you seen go karts at putt putt or shifter kart guys like..... drifting back and forth for speed. Snaking just detracts from the game's experience and looks stupid. Doesn't feel like a racing game that way. Even if I could snake like a motha, I'd think it's still stupid and not use it to my advantage.... but I don't even play MK:DS or the DS at all thanks to my buddy's sister claiming my charger was hers and taking to a friends house.... and breaking it... so yeah.
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They probably are on Mario Kart Wii Wi-Fi with USBGecko or Ocarina.
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The Snakers most likely got bored and moved on.
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Most of the people who'd snake aren't interested in MKW (not that you can in that game, really).
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Oh, I can pull off a few bits of snaking directly when going into and exiting turns. From what I remember, it's necessary to beat the expert ghosts. I haven't beaten many of them, however, so there's still room for improvement.