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Mario Chat / How Would YOU Do Mario Kart?

« on: July 05, 2010, 04:58:24 PM »

Note: This topic is not about the upcoming Mario Kart for the Nintendo 3DS.  It's a discussion on how YOU would handle an entry in the series.

Ever since I first played the SNES original I've fallen in love with the Mario Kart series.  That doesn't mean, however, I wouldn't change a few things if I was in charge of developing the latest game.  So if you had the power, what would YOU do differently?

I'll start with the roster.  One thing I'd try to do is have everyone in the so-called 'Big Eight' have one partner, one rival, and one rival's partner.  I'd also make sure there is only one version of each character; this means no baby characters or playable skeletons of other characters.  It's not that I have anything against those characters, but the Mario series has no many lovable faces that it just seems like such a waste to have any one character take more than one slot.  I'd also not include generic drones and random bosses and instead focus actual characters that are more 'significant' in the Mario series as a whole.  The only exception I'd make to this would be the Koopa Troopa (and his partner) since he's appeared so often he's almost become a character in himself (as in, the Mario Kart Koopa Troopa).  Also, one thing I enjoy about Mario Kart is that it's not just a celebration of the Marioverse, but also a celebration of the extended Marioverse.  So I'd include more characters from the Wario and DK series.  Without further ado, here's my list:

LIGHT
Toad
Toadette
Little Yoshi
Koopa Troopa
Koopa Paratroopa
Kamek
Kammy
Diddy Kong
Dixie Kong
Spitz

MEDIUM
Mario
Luigi
Peach
Daisy
Yoshi
Boshi
Bowser Jr.
Professor E. Gadd
Captain Syrup
Mona

HEAVY
Bowser
King Boo
Rosalina
Wario
Waluigi
Dribble
Donkey Kong
Kiddy Kong
Krunch
K. Rool (preferably in a racer outfit)

You probably noticed the lack of Birdo.  I just don't understand why Birdo is often paired as Yoshi's partner; as far as I recall I don't think Birdo is even described as a dinosaur in any official media!  I'd much rather see Little Yoshi from Tetris Attack paired with the dino rather than a random Super Mario Bros. 2 boss.  I was also considering putting in the Shroobs as rivals to the Toads, but I wasn't sure if they would be 'significant' enough.  And in a way the Koopa Troopas could be considered their rivals.  Well, enough blabbering from me.  What would YOU change about Mario Kart, from characters, items, tracks, or anything in particular?

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Mario Chat / Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns

« on: June 29, 2010, 12:31:38 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc-B7ubLe68

No classic halfpoint/partner barrels, no hidden coins, and no classic villains.

Yet I'm still interested. I wonder why.

Well, it looks like the hidden coins have been "broken up" into jigsaw pieces that may add up to a single coin, so in a way they're sill there.

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Friend Codes / Re: WarioWare D.I.Y. Friend Codes and Discussion

« on: June 23, 2010, 11:02:37 AM »

Thanks, Lizard Dude!  I actually had to do a little research on hopscotch.  I just wanted it to stand out from the usual football/basketball/baseball.

Does anybody know of a tactic to increase your game sales?  I'm still trying to get medals 34-36 (the medals for individual game sales).

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Mario Chat / Re: Mariology (serious posts wanted)

« on: June 21, 2010, 06:26:00 PM »

Let's go back to this idea:

Got any proof ? Personally, I think that most of them are just asteroids and planetoids orbiting around the Mushroom World, like the Moon. The "galaxies" in SMG2 can be considered as moons, actually.

Something interesting: the Star Rod does more than just making people's wishes and dreams come true. You see, there are 7 planets in Mario's solar system (as shown in PM2). You learn in SMG2 that the Mushroom World is the first planet of this solar system, and thus the most near of the Sun.

...but it's so near the planet behind it is almost a fireball. So I think the Star Rod must protect the Mushroom World and make it a planet where life would be possible.

That's an interesting observation, Koopalmier.  I never noticed that, but at the same time I don't think we can conclude that there are only seven planets in Mario's solar system.  After all, the Greeks and Romans thought that our solar system only had seven planets as well.  It was just their limited technology, so the same could apply to the ancients of Mario's world.  As for Galaxy 2's world map, I don't think we can say each "World" is nearby a planet in Mario's solar system since each "World" is filled with different galaxies.  To me, it makes more sense to think of each "World" as a supercluster filled with multiple galaxies that each have their own planets of varying sizes.

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Mario Chat / Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns

« on: June 20, 2010, 09:47:55 AM »

Jungle Beat is an arcade-like platformer with an emphasis on stringing combos to get the highest score possible while the DKC games focus more on exploration with finding Bonus Barrels and tokens.  Whichever one is "better" depends on your preferences.

As for the lack of Kremlings so far, I understand the concern.  They're so iconic to fans of the DKCs.  I don't mind seeing a new villain, and sometimes I wish the Mario series would play around with the villains more.  But I usually see the introduction of a new threat in series that have been going on for a while to freshen things up, not in something like DKC that hasn't been around for a while.  At the same time, these Tikis can be an interesting threat, so I'm a bit mixed on the subject.  It be nice if K. Rool at least made a cameo appearance.

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Mario Chat / Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns

« on: June 18, 2010, 01:55:19 PM »

Heh, what if this game had a Super Guide?  I'd imagine that after you lose a certain amount of times, you could go to Cranky's Cabin and bribe him with enough Banana Coins to get him to do the level for you.

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Mario Chat / Donkey Kong Country Returns

« on: June 15, 2010, 05:29:06 PM »

I'm a huge fan of the old DKCs so, needless to say, I'm really excited about this one.  I just hope there may be a some more returning Kong family members and Kremlings!

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Mario Chat / Re: Paper Mario 3DS images

« on: June 15, 2010, 05:24:00 PM »

I really wasn't expecting a new Mario adventure game this E3 since within 9-10 months we got a new RPG, 2D platformer, and 3D platformer.  Us Mario fans are really spoiled!

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Mario Chat / Re: Paper Mario 3DS images

« on: June 15, 2010, 02:28:35 PM »

I'm surprised this is for the 3DS.  So far we've had Paper Mario games for the console and Mario & Luigi games for the handheld.  Now that I think about it, though, it's an obvious choice: 3D paper effects!

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Game Help / Re: Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story Fast Cash Ring

« on: June 14, 2010, 11:53:41 AM »

Whoa, sorry for making you wait.  The Fast Cash Ring works like this: when Bowser wears it, all enemies in the overworld that he can defeat by merely touching them drop double the amount of coins.  Enemies like those crickets, crabs, etc.  Even if the coin that appears only has a 5 on it, if you look in your coin total you will see that you gained 10 coins.

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Friend Codes / Re: WarioWare D.I.Y. Friend Codes and Discussion

« on: June 10, 2010, 01:20:34 PM »

Sorry for the bump but...YES!  My game was selected again!  You can try my "Bull's-eye" for theme #3!  Let me know what you think!

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Mario Chat / Re: Super Mario Galaxy 2

« on: June 03, 2010, 01:55:14 PM »

I squealed like a true nerd when I entered the Throwback Galaxy and found that the walls in star #6 of Super Mario 64 were still chipped off!  And who says that Mario games are void of continuity?

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Mario Chat / Re: Mariology (serious posts wanted)

« on: May 23, 2010, 12:25:43 PM »

I'm not sure why every game that features Mario should be included in the so-called "canon". Miyamoto clearly stated that he wanted Mario to just be some guy that he could throw into whatever game he wanted. Which is why he steers the paddle in Alleyway and stuff.

Okay.  This is why some people may wish to disregard some games/alternate media.  Nintendo does not draw out an official timeline.  They've even said that they'd rather leave it up to the individual player's imagination.  So my approach to understanding the Marioverse is looking at it as a whole, like a bunch of jigsaw pieces and imagining how they can all fit together.

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Mario Chat / Re: Mariology (serious posts wanted)

« on: May 22, 2010, 10:20:57 PM »

I'm not saying the cartoons/comics/books take precedence over the games concerning Mario's birth.  I'm simply saying that they can be reconciled.

Look, all I'm saying is that I like to understand the entire Mario franchise in a historical, comprehensive approach.  "Historical" as in I don't exclude things because I don't like them or because they weren't directly made by Miyamoto.  I don't think Miyamoto is the sole author of the Marioverse.  Otherwise, Daisy and Wario do not exist.  You seem to understand the Mario universe by solely looking at the main games, as if they were the sole authority, where certain elements must be stated in those games to be "real."  We can agree to disagree about our approaches to understanding the Marioverse.

As for Super Mario Adventures, it must take place before the events of Super Mario World.  Simple as that.

ANYTHING THAT WASN'T MADE BY NINTENDO OF JAPAN AND ITS AFFILIATE COMPANIES SHOULDN'T EXIST IN THE FIRST PLACE AND FALL INTO OBLIVION.

By what authority/authorship do you declare that the Mario media is not part of the timeline?

But one more thing.  Do you really believe that the following takes place in the Mushroom World?

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Mario Chat / Re: Mariology (serious posts wanted)

« on: May 22, 2010, 05:55:48 PM »

Just because they don't talk about it anymore doesn't mean they threw it away.  It may simply be irrelevant now since Mario lives in the Mushroom Kingdom or they may not wish to bring it up since, as established before, there is no official canon.  This simply means that Nintendo does not spoon-feed us what to accept or what to disregard.  So I don't see the problem if I want to include this in a comprehensive timeline of the entire Mario franchise.

But my main point is that Nintendo never denied that Mario is from Brooklyn.  Even if Nintendo of America doesn't talk about it today, that doesn't undo the fact that they have before through their Mario media.

You keep disregarding the Brooklyn story since it is not mentioned in the games.  I think this brings up the issue of authorship.

When Miyamoto created this fictional world, he obviously becomes the author.  He has the authority that establishes the characters, how the world works, etc.  Since he made this fictional reality under contract with Nintendo, Nintendo owns the rights.  When Nintendo offers these rights to a third party like Valiant or DiC, they grant them the authorship to make a statement about that fictional reality.  But being the original authors, Miyamoto and Nintendo have a greater authority.  So although Princess Peach Toadstool has appeared with red hair in some media, Nintendo's official character art takes precedence over that.  But the issue of Mario growing up in Brooklyn does not contradict what Miyamoto has established in his higher authority.

Yes, we see the babies delivered to the Mushroom Kingdom, but how did they get there?  Where did the stork get them?  Could they have possibly been born elsewhere and delivered somewhere else?  Did the babies move and grow up somewhere else?  These are simply gaps in the timeline free for the fans to speculate and theorize until a higher authority makes a statement.

So to answer your questions...

...then why isn't Bowser a T-Rex-turned-human in any Mario game?

He isn't because there is no way to reconcile the story of the live-action Mario movie with the timeline from the games.  The movie makers had a degree of authorship to contribute, but they instead made their own version that blatantly contradicts the source material, the higher authority.  I do not believe that the comics/books/cartoons make such a contradiction, so I see no reason to disregard it in my comprehensive timeline of the entire Mario series.

Why didn't the events of SMW involve Peach wearing Luigi's clothes?

Not an issue.  The Super Mario Adventures comic book was not a retelling of Super Mario World.  It was its own story.

By the way, when I mentioned that it has been established that Mario is from Brooklyn in an actual game, I was referring to Mario's Time Machine, not Mario is Missing.

Maybe one day I'll post my comprehensive timeline on the Mario series in this forum.