Author Topic: Obama wins a Nobel Peace Prize (Read 18762 times)

CrossEyed7 · « **on:** October 09, 2009, 08:00:40 AM »

Link

Only the third sitting US President to win one -- the first was Theodore Roosevelt, who ended the Russo-Japanese War, and the second was Woodrow Wilson, who... um... got us into World War I after promising not to and threw over 100,000 US citizens who criticized the war into prison. And started the League of Nations, I guess, because that worked out real well.

Has Obama done enough to deserve one yet? Is the Nobel Peace Prize even still relevant today?

PaperLuigi · « **Reply #1 on:** October 09, 2009, 08:22:59 AM »

He isn't really doing much to end the war in Afghanistan so no, I don't think he deserves it.

TEM · « **Reply #2 on:** October 09, 2009, 08:27:46 AM »

Is there a stated reason for him getting it?

PaperLuigi · « **Reply #3 on:** October 09, 2009, 08:34:19 AM »

Supposedly for "promoting peace and nuclear disarmament."

CrossEyed7 · « **Reply #4 on:** October 09, 2009, 08:38:35 AM »

Quote from: AP

President Barack Obama won the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize on Friday "for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples," the Norwegian Nobel Committee said, citing his outreach to the Muslim world and attempts to curb nuclear proliferation.

Turtlekid1 · « **Reply #5 on:** October 09, 2009, 10:03:25 AM »

I was going to make a thread about this if there wasn't one already when I logged in.

More to the point, I think it's rather ridiculous. He hasn't really accomplished anything, good or bad (putting aside how scary some of the things he wants to accomplish are) yet.

So that'd be a "no."

PaperLuigi · « **Reply #6 on:** October 09, 2009, 10:17:51 AM »

While I do commemorate him for outreaching to the Muslim world and curbing nuclear proliferation, I really don't think he's done enough to warrant an award.

Rao · « **Reply #7 on:** October 09, 2009, 10:45:07 AM »

Well, he may deserve it later in his term, but right now he hasn't really done that much to deserve it.

Toad · « **Reply #8 on:** October 09, 2009, 11:21:43 AM »

You don't give an award to someone for their potential. You give to them for actually accomplishing something.

I am not happy about this.

Lizard Dude · « **Reply #9 on:** October 09, 2009, 11:36:44 AM »

Quote from: CrossEyed7 on October 09, 2009, 08:00:40 AM

Is the Nobel Peace Prize even still relevant today?

What does that mean? It's just some dudez saying, "You win!" It's as relevant as it ever was. Was it ever relevant?

Tv_Themes · « **Reply #10 on:** October 09, 2009, 12:18:51 PM »

Obama doesn't deserve this at all.

For his "vision" of "hope" at the beginning of his Presidency? Ha! He's been a total letdown all year and WILL be voted out in 2012.

Yikes! Tv_Themes goes political.

Forest Guy · « **Reply #11 on:** October 09, 2009, 12:19:17 PM »

LD is right, the Nobel Peace Prize was never worth jack [dukar].

My favorite part about this story though is that the nomination deadline was February 1st. So they all nominated him a week after he was sworn in. I mean, if you really like Obama and really think he's done a good job reaching out to the rest of the world, then yeah you could sorta make a case for him winning by saying "Wow! Look at all the great things he's done in his first 8 months!". But one week into his term, he had done nothing besides say he plans on closing Guantanamo. Really. That's all they had to base his nomination off of. I just wish we knew what justification there was for nominating him in the first place, other than the rest of the world has a crush on him.

PaperLuigi · « **Reply #12 on:** October 09, 2009, 12:52:26 PM »

Quote from: Tv_Themes on October 09, 2009, 12:18:51 PM

For his "vision" of "hope" at the beginning of his Presidency? Ha! He's been a total letdown all year and WILL be voted out in 2012.

You try fixing the [dukar] Bush got us in in one year.

EDIT: Franklin D. Roosevelt practically killed himself trying to get us out of the Great Depression. You people act like Obama's going to fix everything in a year.

Glorb · « **Reply #13 on:** October 09, 2009, 01:55:39 PM »

Yeah, I think Obama getting the Nobel is kind of stupid and definitely part of Obama Fever (namely, people who be lovin' up on Barack's junk without actually knowing what he does). He certainly has the capacity to do something Nobel-worthy, but has actually yet to.

But LD's right, the Nobel is pretty much worth jack.

Also,

Quote from: Tv_Themes on October 09, 2009, 12:18:51 PM

For his "vision" of "hope" at the beginning of his Presidency? Ha! He's been a total letdown all year and WILL be voted out in 2012.

Sarcasm quotes: For when you don't have anything to say but want to make it look like you do.

PaperLuigi · « **Reply #14 on:** October 09, 2009, 02:10:41 PM »

Also, Bobby Jindal (if he runs) will not beat Obama in 2012...if Americans have any sense that is. The dude says creationism is "the very best science."

Reminds me of myself back in the day. Back when I literally knew nothing about science, evolution, etc.

Mr. Wiggles · « **Reply #15 on:** October 09, 2009, 02:36:12 PM »

Well, he did re-establish good relations with the world, and they aready like him better than they did George W. Bush.

So it seems to come down to popularity rather than actually ~~doing~~ accomplishing something.

Either way, I expect quite the [dukar]storm over this.

Trainman · « **Reply #16 on:** October 09, 2009, 03:54:26 PM »

Everybody likes anything that doesn't have to do with Bush for some reason.

Obama is loved because he's "not Bush."

Ninjap00 · « **Reply #17 on:** October 09, 2009, 03:55:49 PM »

Quote from: Trainman on October 09, 2009, 03:54:26 PM

Everybody likes anything that doesn't have to do with Bush for some reason.

Obama is loved because he's "not an old white man."

Weegee · « **Reply #18 on:** October 09, 2009, 04:52:34 PM »

Pardon my opinion, but this is almost an insult to past recpients of the award. He hasn't done anything besides acting as the poster boy for today's new-age, humanistic mindset. Obama would not have received the award if he were a 60-year old white man with a conventional background, as justified by the aformentioned ideology.

Chupperson Weird · « **Reply #19 on:** October 09, 2009, 04:59:18 PM »

True, but also I think LD has a point as well.

The Chef · « **Reply #20 on:** October 09, 2009, 06:08:10 PM »

Quote from: Tv_Themes link=topic=12875.msg559394#msg559394 date=1255112331Yikes! Tv_Themes goes political.[/quote

Perish the thought...

Trainman · « **Reply #21 on:** October 09, 2009, 06:15:20 PM »

"Obama is loved because he's 'not an old white man.'"

Ninjap00, you do realize that the previous 43 presidents were "old white men," right?

I hear all these people chanting about how Obama is the grace of God because "omg he's a black man... this is epic history happening here, ladies and gentleman. omfg life has never been better."

Screw that. Skin color and age is meaningless. Obama's going to be an old black man soon enough. What's the difference between that and an old white guy? Do you feel that he is some great being simply because he's black? Or maybe you're *****ing about "old white men" because the stereotype to you apparently is "old white man = right winger who wants to drill drill drill and war war war" just because you've been exposed to people who constantly blame the universe's problems on Bush. If that's the case, then I guess all the presidents before Obama were just bitter, angry old white men who couldn't do anything right and Obama is the gift of God that is going to cast away the dark clouds that have been over the United States that the "old white men" created by waving his hand and saying "Change..... CHANGE!!!"

Forest Guy · « **Reply #22 on:** October 09, 2009, 09:29:51 PM »

http://www.gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=100043 http://

Because President Obama is the first person in history to dream of a nuclear-weapon-free world.

Ninjap00 · « **Reply #23 on:** October 09, 2009, 09:32:15 PM »

Trainman~
no, no, you see my eyes were getting tired of the same thing over and over.
also sorry for my previous not serious post. i assume you are angry now, which makes me feel bad inside.

Chupperson Weird · « **Reply #24 on:** October 09, 2009, 10:38:10 PM »

Trainman, I'm pretty sure he was meaning that it seems like that was the reason, when it is in fact a thing a lot of people seem to think is great about Obama, whether a person with a rational mind would think that or not. I mean, I think it's great that a black dude or whoever can be president, but that's as far as it goes. Rational people obviously don't think that makes him better.

Trainman · « **Reply #25 on:** October 09, 2009, 11:04:27 PM »

Quote from: Ninjap00 on October 09, 2009, 09:32:15 PM

Trainman~
no, no, you see my eyes were getting tired of the same thing over and over.
also sorry for my previous not serious post. i assume you are angry now, which makes me feel bad inside.

Sorry for the outburst. Just seeing that made me think of all the misinformed people that love Obama just because he's "not a white old guy," "not Bush," or "lulz hes a black dudez." I was just hoping that you weren't another one of those drones.

Ninjap00 · « **Reply #26 on:** October 10, 2009, 07:53:35 AM »

I'm not one of those "drones."
Now I'm just happy you didn't make another angry post at me.

sadib100 · « **Reply #27 on:** October 10, 2009, 12:36:20 PM »

I would kill for that prize.

Glorb · « **Reply #28 on:** October 10, 2009, 05:02:13 PM »

I smiled.

dc804 · « **Reply #29 on:** October 10, 2009, 06:44:11 PM »

It's official: George Bush was such a bad president, you can win the Nobel Peace Prize just by not being him.

He may not have done much, but he did have some great speeches. Anyone else notice that he is the only president to acknowledge nonbelievers?

But yea, why did he win?

PaperLuigi · « **Reply #30 on:** October 10, 2009, 06:58:40 PM »

Quote from: dc804 on October 10, 2009, 06:44:11 PM

It's official: George Bush was such a bad president, you can win the Nobel Peace Prize just by not being him.

You sir ought to be a comedian. I laughed my ass off.

Quote from: dc804 on October 10, 2009, 06:44:11 PM

He may not have done much, but he did have some great speeches. Anyone else notice that he is the only president to acknowledge nonbelievers?

Despite being a believer to some extent I am very happy he did this. Past presidents, namely Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush, have mocked freethinkers.

Weegee · « **Reply #31 on:** October 10, 2009, 08:02:44 PM »

I strongly disagree with your use of "freethinkers" as an antonym for believers, but that's for another thread. Back to discussion, we've yet to discuss the fact that with the Nobel Peace Prize comes an enormous cash reward, which was in this case 1.4 million dollars. I'm against nuclear warfare as well, and nor have I done anything about it either, so where's my $1.4 million?

PaperLuigi · « **Reply #32 on:** October 10, 2009, 10:39:14 PM »

Quote from: Weegee on October 10, 2009, 08:02:44 PM

I strongly disagree with your use of "freethinkers" as an antonym for believers

Well, what do you suppose they should be called?

Weegee · « **Reply #33 on:** October 11, 2009, 10:36:06 AM »

"Non-Christians". Classifying people as either "Christians" or "freethinkers" is the religious equivalent of some bigot categorizing ethnic groups as either "Blacks" or "all the better races".

Pt_Peach · « **Reply #34 on:** October 11, 2009, 10:54:25 AM »

I'm agreeing with Weegee's view on this.

And to stay on topic, I don't think he deserved a Nobel Peace Prize in this case. There hasn't been enough done on his behalf.

Forest Guy · « **Reply #35 on:** October 12, 2009, 07:31:55 PM »

Quote from: PaperLuigi on October 10, 2009, 06:58:40 PM

You sir ought to be a comedian. I laughed my ass off.

Pretty sure he got that from Conan O'Brian or something. I forget who, but I heard it on tv somewhere.

PaperLuigi · « **Reply #36 on:** October 12, 2009, 07:45:33 PM »

I killed my television a long time ago.

Forest Guy · « **Reply #37 on:** October 12, 2009, 11:33:17 PM »

No I meant the joke of "If you're not Bush, you can win a Nobel Prize." But now that I think of it, the original joke I heard was on SNL, and I believe it was actually related to President Obama's speech to the IOC. So I dunno. It's the same basic joke that could be permutated into a number of ways.

PaperLuigi · « **Reply #38 on:** October 13, 2009, 12:25:10 AM »

I killed my television; therefore, I did not know dc804 got that joke from SNL.

Forest Guy · « **Reply #39 on:** October 13, 2009, 12:35:17 AM »

Ah, I understand. My mistake. But who knows, maybe he didn't get it from there.

dc804 · « **Reply #40 on:** October 14, 2009, 02:00:30 PM »

As usual,

I got it from here.

Forest Guy · « **Reply #41 on:** October 18, 2009, 02:47:42 AM »

I can greatly respect a man who admits he got a joke from elsewhere. Nothing's worse than a joke-stealer/recycler.

dc804 · « **Reply #42 on:** October 18, 2009, 10:12:51 AM »

Well [darn] near everyone on my joke site steals jokes.

The only ones they didn't steal are the absolute worst ones. Such as the 9/11, racist, rape, and death jokes. Only the people on there would dare to make jokes about that stuff.

Glorb · « **Reply #43 on:** October 18, 2009, 03:13:07 PM »

A black man, a Jew, and the twin towers walk into a bar. The black guy rapes the Jew, who promptly kills the black guy and then himself, by piloting a plane into the twin towers to fulfill the ancient Jewish conspiracy.

Mr. Wiggles · « **Reply #44 on:** October 18, 2009, 03:24:16 PM »

Hilarious.

Glorb · « **Reply #45 on:** October 18, 2009, 03:34:33 PM »

I KNO RITE

Weegee · « **Reply #46 on:** October 18, 2009, 05:07:56 PM »

Good, but points were deducted for not referencing any old-fashioned Jewish stereotypes, such as them being insatiably covetous or drinking the blood of Christian babies.

Turtlekid1 · « **Reply #47 on:** October 18, 2009, 05:19:36 PM »

And for not making fun of Christians.

Oh wait, that's not offensive at all. Carry on.

CrossEyed7 · « **Reply #48 on:** October 18, 2009, 07:29:20 PM »

PaperLuigi · « **Reply #49 on:** October 18, 2009, 08:58:09 PM »

Weegee · « **Reply #50 on:** October 19, 2009, 02:51:44 PM »

Rule 34. Now.

CrossEyed7 · « **Reply #51 on:** October 19, 2009, 03:44:06 PM »

Luigison · « **Reply #52 on:** October 19, 2009, 06:08:07 PM »

dc804 · « **Reply #53 on:** October 19, 2009, 07:16:22 PM »

Amazing. I post one joke and Rule 34 begins.

Weegee · « **Reply #54 on:** October 19, 2009, 07:20:49 PM »

I'm digging the subliminal phallic imagery to the right of Bush and Cheney, CrossEyed.

Weegee · « **Reply #55 on:** October 20, 2009, 02:46:37 PM »

To summarize the issue,