"get into this here"

[Luigison]

This thread is for Turtlekid1. 

http://themushroomkingdom.net/board/index.php?topic=12679.msg582278#msg582278

[Turtlekid1]

Said scientists are asserting as fact things that they cannot prove to be scientific fact.

/thread

[Weegee]

Since when did Luigison become the new Glorb?

[PaperLuigi]

Seeing as how arguments with Turtlekid typically hit a brick wall after a certain point, the futility of continuing this thread is apparent.

[bobman37]

Luigison, I like your style.

Turtlekid, I'm afraid you'll need to be more specific.

[Luigison]

Said Turtlekid1 is asserting as fact things that he cannot prove to be fact or is unwilling to do so in this thread.  (If I missed something in another thread please link me there.)

Turtlekid1, I didn't make this thread as a joke, jab at you, or to turn it into some kind of game or meme.  I was hoping for an intellectual discussion.   

[Turtlekid1]

The term "map" as in "Scientists have mapped out the past" implies that it's possible to provide details with 100% accurate and reliable proof.  A general idea?  Maybe.  But not with the level of detail that certain "scientists" like to think.

While on the subject, I think I should just say that the past and the future are two different things, and to assume that we can know one just by knowing the other is... unwise.

Off-topic, LD would say that Luigison attended the Turtlekid School of Argumentation.

[Kimimaru]

I agree with Turtlekid1. It doesn't even matter that predicting the weather and the future are two different things; if we don't even know how a section of the Earth will be in a week, how will we know what the entire planet is going to be like billions of years from now? Remember the dinosaurs? We don't even know what colors they were. There can always be estimates, but there is still a sense of doubt. No one knows when the next Noah's Ark will occur.

This reminds me of a bogus Yahoo! article I read once that showed a discovery scientists found. These scientists said that through "research," they found that people maintain the same personalities throughout their entire lives. If that was the case, how come I know many people that have changed immensely? This proves that scientists are even willing to make things up to gain recognition/fame.

[Turtlekid1]

Everything turns into a power play sooner or later.  If there's even the slightest chance that a "scientific finding" will grant more power to those who back it, or allow them to deny responsibility for something, then that finding will inexplicably rise in prominence whether it's been conclusively proved or not.  All so people can have more power and less accountability.

[PaperLuigi]

Everything turns into a power play sooner or later.  If there's even the slightest chance that a "scientific finding" will grant more power to those who back it, or allow them to deny responsibility for something, then that finding will inexplicably rise in prominence whether it's been conclusively proved or not. 

Sounds a lot like creationism!

[Turtlekid1]

Except the inverse; the true* creationist wants to be more accountable and have less power.
*The definition of "true" being, in this case, the creationist that is a Bible-abiding Christian

[PaperLuigi]

The definition of "true" being, in this case, the creationist that is a Bible-abiding Christian

I'm guessing Islamic creationists aren't true creationists. Or Jewish creationists. Or any of the other proposed creationists.

[Turtlekid1]

Not for the purposes of that statement, since I can only speak for how biblical Christians should conduct themselves, not Jews or Muslims.  But I would wager you were referring more to Christians than those groups in your previous statement.