Author Topic: One set of laws for them... another for us. (Read 16645 times)

Insane Steve · « **on:** March 26, 2011, 04:01:32 PM »

So, you're a judge who is about to sentence a man who has raped over 40 young (not of age) girls, keeping many as sex slaves. What's your sentence? Death? Life without parole?

Ah, but wait -- he's a billionaire hedge fund owner! So I guess the right answer is 13 months. Yep. It should be exceedingly trivial to find someone who got more than that for prostitution -- in other words, it's more ok to be a kiddie diddler than to have consensual sex for money, so long as the pedophile is rich.

My point is -- if you think America is anything but a plutocratic oligarchy, you're delusional. Normal people get the book thrown at them for having an ounce of pot. The rich can (possibly literally) get away with murder. And, just wait until the rich actually own the prisons. Sound crazy? It's already happening.

Cliffs: "American Justice System" is an oxymoron. Discuss.

PaperLuigi · « **Reply #1 on:** March 26, 2011, 04:11:43 PM »

"Fair representation is representation according to the amount of influence effectively exerted."~John Rawls

I agree with you one hundred percent. Just look at Buckley v. Valeo. In America, money speaks.

Lizard Dude · « **Reply #2 on:** March 26, 2011, 04:28:53 PM »

"~~In America~~ Everywhere, money speaks."

But yeah. I don't forsee much arguing in this thread.

Luigison · « **Reply #3 on:** March 26, 2011, 04:33:17 PM »

* Luigison is not delusional.

PaperLuigi · « **Reply #4 on:** March 26, 2011, 04:36:37 PM »

Quote from: Lizard Dude on March 26, 2011, 04:28:53 PM

But yeah. I don't forsee much arguing in this thread.

Turtlekid hasn't responded yet.

Weegee · « **Reply #5 on:** March 26, 2011, 04:47:18 PM »

It's good to know that the Canadian judicial system is free of corporate corruption.

/whoamikidding

WarpRattler · « **Reply #6 on:** March 26, 2011, 04:56:36 PM »

Turtlekid may be literally insane, but even he doesn't defend pedophilia...

...right?

PaperLuigi · « **Reply #7 on:** March 26, 2011, 05:03:01 PM »

I highly doubt it. But I wager that he'll defend billionaires like the Koch Brothers who are actively working to take away bargaining rights from firemen and teachers.

Double standard lol

The Chef · « **Reply #8 on:** March 26, 2011, 05:35:50 PM »

I highly doubt Turtlekid would defend a point like those. Now you're just picking on him for no reason.

But I'm the mean-spirited one.

PaperLuigi · « **Reply #9 on:** March 26, 2011, 05:45:43 PM »

Quote from: The Chef on March 26, 2011, 05:35:50 PM

I highly doubt Turtlekid would defend a point like those.

...I just said that he wouldn't.

Turtlekid1 · « **Reply #10 on:** March 26, 2011, 05:50:50 PM »

Quote from: Insane Steve on March 26, 2011, 04:01:32 PM

What's your sentence?

Death, in all likelihood.

Quote from: Insane Steve on March 26, 2011, 04:01:32 PM

Cliffs: "American Justice System" is an oxymoron. Discuss.

Just like pretty much any justice system ever. I'm not saying it's right, but is it really such a surprise? And is it really fair to say that the system always fails? Because it doesn't. People like to single out America as such a cesspool of greed and imperialism and selfishness and whatever else, but what they fail to realize is that it's still better here than pretty much anywhere else in the world.

Quote from: PaperLuigi on March 26, 2011, 05:03:01 PM

I highly doubt it. But I wager that he'll defend billionaires like the Koch Brothers who are actively working to take away bargaining rights from firemen and teachers.

Double standard lol

Taking away rights isn't their motive. Stopping thugs who cheat, steal, and intimidate their way into power - all under the pretense of bargaining rights - is.

CrossEyed7 · « **Reply #11 on:** March 26, 2011, 05:58:29 PM »

Quote from: PaperLuigi on March 26, 2011, 05:03:01 PM

But I wager that he'll defend billionaires like the Koch Brothers who are actively working to take away bargaining rights from firemen and teachers.

Agreeing with FDR on the destabilizing effects of giving government workers the same collective bargaining rights as private sector workers = raping 40 children.

PaperLuigi · « **Reply #12 on:** March 26, 2011, 06:19:27 PM »

Quote from: Turtlekid1 on March 26, 2011, 05:50:50 PM

Stopping thugs who cheat, steal, and intimidate their way into power - all under the pretense of bargaining rights - is.

Then why did he lie about it being a fiscal issue?

Turtlekid1 · « **Reply #13 on:** March 26, 2011, 06:24:21 PM »

...Because it is a fiscal issue?

PaperLuigi · « **Reply #14 on:** March 26, 2011, 06:33:51 PM »

If there is a budget crisis, why didn't he just cut tax breaks to millionaires and billionaires? Or something else? To me it seems like this is more about union busting than fixing a fiscal problem.