Obama care

[Chupperson Weird]

The Army isn't the only thing getting budget cuts. NASA -- the part that could be doing actually useful stuff -- gets mega downsized like every year.
I can't figure out the straight story because some people say global warming is in full force, other places I've heard that we're entering a mini ice age; if not that then I hear that the earth's climate is changing due to natural cycles and no one really has enough proof since, you know, correlation can't imply causation. HOWEVER, the environment is totally more important than say, starting wars up because we're trying to control the world.
Also, Turtlekid, where does it say the government is going to control what we eat? I'm pretty sure the government can't stop me from going to a local farmer's market to get actual food to cook myself.

[PaperLuigi]

It would be in our best interest to clean up the environment even if global warming isn't happening (which it is, although some people confuse cold weather with global cooling).

[Chupperson Weird]

Yes, I am in full support of cleaning up the colossal mess we've been making.

[Turtlekid1]

Also, Turtlekid, where does it say the government is going to control what we eat? I'm pretty sure the government can't stop me from going to a local farmer's market to get actual food to cook myself.

If they're going to be paying for your health insurance, they're going to be setting health policies, including those regarding your diet.

I can't, in good conscience, let you keep staring at the headlights without at least attempting a warning either. I'm scared for the saved, so stop believing before it's too late.

Do you see what it sounds like?

Completely ridiculous in your case, because if there's no God, the worst case scenario is that I live by a few unnecessary rules and restrictions; and when I die, nothing happens.  Not seeing any headlights there.  Perhaps you could clarify what danger I'm in?

It would be in our best interest to clean up the environment even if global warming isn't happening.

I agree; the environment shouldn't be trashed.

[PaperLuigi]

Completely ridiculous in your case, because if there's no God, the worst case scenario is that I live by a few unnecessary rules and restrictions; and when I die, nothing happens.  Not seeing any headlights there.  Perhaps you could clarify what danger I'm in?

You're in danger of not doing what's morally right. The absence of an afterlife does not designate the absence of danger.

I don't even need to explain the fallacies of Pascal's Wager.

[Turtlekid1]

Moral right and wrongs can't exist without a Moral Standard; where are you getting yours?

[PaperLuigi]

A naturalistic explanation for the origin of morals. Evolution, basically.

[Chupperson Weird]

If they're going to be paying for your health insurance, they're going to be setting health policies, including those regarding your diet.

I don't have any health insurance. I don't even go to a doctor. What are you talking about?

Also, here we go again with argument #82372 against the Golden Rule.

* Chupperson Weird sigh

[Turtlekid1]

I don't have any health insurance. I don't even go to a doctor. What are you talking about?

And now you're either going to have to buy health insurance or pay an extra tax for not doing so.

[PaperLuigi]

that's why I find it so ironic that the military seems to be the only area of government that's getting budget cuts.

[nensondubois]

Land of the free, and land of the great it is no more.

[PaperLuigi]

lol the government can't do anything right we need less of it guys

[Chupperson Weird]

And now you're either going to have to buy health insurance or pay an extra tax for not doing so.

This is false. Anything that says otherwise is mere conjecture.

[Turtlekid1]

lol the government can't do anything right we need less of it guys

[pic]

Whether the government can do anything right is irrelevant.  They shouldn't be doing any of that.

[Rao]