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Video Games => Mario Chat => Topic started by: Mario Maniac on January 14, 2008, 02:27:22 AM
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I went to a Mario RPG fansite and found a rumor going around that said Square Enix might be planning a remake or sequel to Super Mario RPG for the DS! If this rumor turns out to be partially true...
I have been waiting for a true sequel to Super Mario RPG since the game first game out. Yes, Paper Mario and Mario and Luigi were both amazing games, but there was something about them that was... different when compared to Mario RPG. I think Mario and Luigi: Superstar Saga had many references to Super Mario RPG (the Geno cameo in the arcade room was an obvious one).
Why hasn't SMRPG been released on the Virtual Console yet? All the other classic Mario games have been released, so why not Mario RPG?
PLEASE SQUARE ENIX/NINTENDO! PLEASE BRING BACK SUPER MARIO RPG!
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Haha, that would be funny if they posted it on VC today!
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I went to a Mario RPG fansite and found a rumor going around
There's no question it will be released on VC eventually. Mario Maniac, why are you posting things which have no logical purpose here? Square and Nintendo aren't going to read this post and then magically comply.
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This rumor has been going around for a while, and with the GBA instead of the DS. But it's a FANSITE! They're gonna say what they want and assume it's to be true.
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Yes, Paper Mario and Mario and Luigi were both amazing games, but there was something about them that was... different when compared to Mario RPG.
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpalaceofshadow.googlepages.com%2Fsmrpg-mario.png&hash=aeac582a1596674a2169b84aa552d2a4) (https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpalaceofshadow.googlepages.com%2Fmlss-mariobros.jpg&hash=433a943688b4d32ba82ad9482a71f476)
Oh?
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I KNOW THE DIFFRENCE! IT'S MARIOS SHOES!
(The true difference is Luigi, For though's who don't know...)
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Actually, if you look closely you can see that Mario had blue irides in SMRPG. In M&L, they removed the irides, and he's all pupils.
I think that's the difference Mario Maniac was hinting at.
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(I was kind of hinting at the fact that the games' styles were polar opposites; SMRPG is surrealistic while M&L is cartoony.)
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Clearly, it is the irides, though... You must agree.
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mario had too much pirate rum in the times of RPG
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SMRPG is a grand game. However, I just have to say that Square made everyone look like they were made out of bubbles.
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SMRPG is a grand game. However, I just have to say that Square made everyone look like they were made out of bubbles.
What do you mean?
I love SMRPG it is my favorite mario RPG also PMTYD coming in a close second. I want a sequel to, but I dont know if it could be as great as the first one.
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I want a DS port or VC of the game
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What do you mean?
Ah, I think I know what he's talking about. Though, I always thought of it as being carved out of rectangular blocks (at least the in-game graphics; the instruction booklet art looks more "bubbly.")
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The in-game graphics are just low-res conversions of the prerendered CG in the manual (and elsewhere).
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The renders for the SMRPG characters did look "bubbly" and kind of lame. But at least we saw Yoshi in 3D. Sort of.
I'm still waiting for a picture of the render for Bahamutt (red dragon enemy in SMRPG, appeared in Bowser's Castle). I saw him in the Super Mario RPG Player's Guide, but every site I go to seems to conveniently forget about this render.
I would enjoy seeing SMRPG again, but there are other games I'd rather see first on Virtual Console.
And am I the only one to notice in the Mario & Luigi pic that Luigi has striped socks? *scared*
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You don't like Luigi's socks? His legs are like candy canes!
Everybody loves candy canes!
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You don't like Luigi's socks? His legs are like candy canes!
Everybody loves candy canes!
I agree with thorn and I never noticed he was wearing striped socks. THATS AWESOME.
/me calms himself before he explodes from excitement.
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The in-game graphics are just low-res conversions of the prerendered CG in the manual (and elsewhere).
Ah, interesting tidbit... I knew the in-game graphics were converted 3D models (ala Donkey Kong Country)--but I never realized the models used in official game art were the same. It makes me wonder, then, if the "bubbly" appearance happened after the fact--the result of getting features to show up well in teensie resolution.
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You don't like Luigi's socks? His legs are like candy canes!
Everybody loves candy canes!
Seconded tremendously. Green, with red-and-white stripes... he's a walking Christmas tree!
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I already made a topic about this. Someones finally copying ME!
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Whoah, yeah, you're right!
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I remember playing Super Mario RPG many years ago back when SNES wasn't legacy yet. It was pretty cool and I especially liked the music. There was some area in a forest that had one of the coolest songs, I still remember how it went all these years later and could play it on piano if I had to. I also remember it had some funny jokes in it...I think Bruce Lee was mentioned and I remember a guy named Mack the Knife. There was also this Wario-looking guy who tried to marry Peach.
Sure wish I had an SNES right now. Might have to shop around on eBay for one plus this game since it's not on the virtual console.
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So, are you trying to tell all of us (who have played SMRPG more recently) about this or what?
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Nah, this just brought back some good memories, that's all!
Anyone have any idea when/if this will be out for VC?
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It's been ESRB rated again, I believe. That's all I know. (It was rated before, but I guess it got rated again with the possibility of VC release.)
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I hope it gets on VC. I hate playing the emulator with a keyboard, and I don't have a credit card to buy the game and a SNES on the Internet.
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You don't need a credit card to use Paypal.
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I remember playing Super Mario RPG many years ago back when SNES wasn't legacy yet. It was pretty cool and I especially liked the music. There was some area in a forest that had one of the coolest songs, I still remember how it went all these years later and could play it on piano if I had to. I also remember it had some funny jokes in it...I think Bruce Lee was mentioned and I remember a guy named Mack the Knife. There was also this Wario-looking guy who tried to marry Peach.
Sure wish I had an SNES right now. Might have to shop around on eBay for one plus this game since it's not on the virtual console.
Area in the forest with the cool song is the Forest Maze (think that's the title). Considered one of the best songs in the game, if not the best.
Bruce Lee was mentioned when Mario was going to punch Bowyer's lights out, and Mallow stops him. Something like "Who do you think you are, Bruce Lee? You can't go in there with fists flying!"
Mack the Knife is the third boss in the game (if we don't count Bowser), he's at the Mushroom Kingdom, and he holds the first Star.
Wario-looking guy is Booster. Wonder how many people knew that in the official art for Booster, it looks like he has silver/metal teeth. I don't recall making out that detail from the Booster sprite.
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The title of the Forest Maze music is Beware the Forest's Mushrooms.
You can't represent silver as a single color, so no.
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I have SMRPG on the SNES, and it's a really good game (like all the other Mario RPGs), but the cartridge erased my file that I spent weeks on.
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Mine does that every time I do the in-game reset :(
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Booster--yeah, that was the guy's name. He had a model train if I remember.
Shame the song isn't on iTunes. I would have bought it in a heartbeat.
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I checked Galbadia Hotel, which has a really large selection of VG MP3s. I only found one thing for SMRPG, and it only had a few tunes.
You might be able to find the song on YouTube.
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SMRPG MP3s can be found at Secret Of The Seven Stars (http://sotss.classicgaming.gamespy.com/index.php?game=smrpg&page=osv)
Or you can get a SPC plugin for Winamp (http://www.alpha-ii.com/Download/Main.html#SNESamp) and the SMRPG SPC soundtrack (http://snesmusic.org/v2/profile.php?profile=set&selected=2752).
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You need a Fileplanet account to get the things at that first link.
I think.
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I checked Galbadia Hotel, which has a really large selection of VG MP3s. I only found one thing for SMRPG, and it only had a few tunes.
Should have looked down a bit further (http://gh.ffshrine.org/soundtracks/135). Hate that those darn game names aren't necessarily in alphabetical order. When looking closely at the two names, it looks like "Super Mario RPG" instead of "Super Mario RPG" (extra spaces), explaining why it's lower on the list. I'm definitely using a "Find" when searching on Galbadia Hotel from now on.
By the way, I hate Fileplanet. I understand why they have a queue, but it still annoys me when I have to wait an hour to download some small file. And I don't like the compulsory registration to download anything from it (if they're still doing that. I think they are). At least it's not as bad as one site that serves up old MS-DOS games, where you must participate in a survey or write a game review or some other piece of work before you can download the game. Those advertisement pages don't even work right.
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Wario-looking guy is Booster. Wonder how many people knew that in the official art for Booster, it looks like he has silver/metal teeth. I don't recall making out that detail from the Booster sprite.
Booster the Second's picture on the first floor of Booster's Tower kind of looked like Wario to me (it was the Second, wasn't it??)
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I always used to think Booster WAS Wario, But that was back when I was about 6 years old
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"Yes, Paper Mario and Mario and Luigi were both amazing games, but there was something about them that was... different when compared to Mario RPG."
Yes, after all. PM and M&L actually felt like Mario games instead of a dumbed down version of Final Fantasy with Mario characters
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More like they felt sluggish and much less engaging (and shorter, in the case of M&L) than SMRPG.
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By the way, I hate Fileplanet. I understand why they have a queue, but it still annoys me when I have to wait an hour to download some small file.
You've had to wait an hour? Wow, whenever I download something from them, I've never had to wait any longer than a minute or two. Makes me wonder why they even have a paid version of their service...
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You've had to wait an hour? Wow, whenever I download something from them, I've never had to wait any longer than a minute or two. Makes me wonder why they even have a paid version of their service...
That's because it depends on the server and how many people are on it. There are several files on one server, so if there's a lot of must-have files on one server, that'd explain why I had to wait an hour. But yeah, recently I've found the servers pretty empty, only waiting a couple minutes. Maybe it's because I'm not downloading during the height of Half-Life 2 popularity anymore.
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(and shorter, in the case of M&L)
I know that game is shorter than Paper Mario and SMRPG, but it sure as heck never felt like it (PiT, on the other hand...).
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I think they should totally have a new completely 3-d mario rpg on the wii complete with cool storyline and great rpg fighting
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Pray that they don't make a Final Fantasy Clone just like that.
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Good point.
Yeah it should be a lot different from final fantasy games (ya know if they actually make a new mario rpg)
and it should be in lots of actual mario locations
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If a remake or on Virtual Console, I hope this game will finally reach Europe some day.
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You could always just import the game.
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And an NTSC SNES, and a power converter, and an NTSC->PAL video converter.
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Or just mod your PAL Snes to work with NTSC games.
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and a power converter
Meaning he'd have to import from Tosche station.
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Super Mario RPG confirmed for Japanese VC! (http://wii.ign.com/articles/877/877906p1.html)
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900 points? Looks like Square's still being stingy.
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It has nothing to do with Square. Nintendo always charges 100 points extra on VC RPGs in Japan.
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*insert SQUARE ENIX hates VC joke here*
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I always liked Super Mario RPG, but I just found PMTTYD to be pretty much the best game I've ever played. (except next to Mario Galaxy maybe) But on a closer margin, i'd say i still like Mario & Luigi better than SMRPG. the whole weird square-ness of SMRPG was unique and cool, but i just couldnt get enough of the good old fashioned nintendo fanservice implemented in M&L.
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I still don't get why people don't like the most fun RPG most.
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Because fun is a matter of opinion? Maybe I would agree with you, had I ever played a single Mario RPG game.
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I like all the Mario RPG's equally, but if I had to choose the best ones, It'd go like this, in worst to best order:
Super Mario RPG Legend Of The Seven Stars, Mario and Luigi Series, Paper Mario Series.
I still don't get why people don't like the most fun RPG most.
I made this order based on what I thought was the funnest.
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In my personal opinion, I want another Mario & Luigi and Paper Mario. Paper Mario 2 was, and still is, my favorite Mario RPG. M&L: SS was awesome, but M&L:PIT was a bit...flawed.
The next Paper Mario game should at least have Yoko Shimomura as a sound composer, or as an arranger. Her work on Brawl was amazing.
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You can't want something in your opinion! And if you can, it's redundant.
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The reason that another Super Mario RPG would be amazing is because there has only been one, and it was made a over 10 years ago. We've already had enough Paper Mario and M&L for now.
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You can't want something in your opinion! And if you can, it's redundant.
Ok, I spotted the error in my words.
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M&L: SS was awesome, but M&L:PIT was a bit...flawed.
Agreed. For once I actually liked the "New kingdom" thing instead of a MK rehash.
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If the first game is in the Mushroom Kingdom, the next isn't, like Paper Mario. The opposite is true for the M&L games.
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I just realized that this is true for other mainstream mario games. Like Super Mario Bros. (subcon) and the 3-d games (isle delfino, though it might be owned by the mushroom kingdom)
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And yet the Zelda games are always in Hyrule... Heck, switching kingdoms is at least one thing the CD-i games got right.
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Termina, anyone?
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The reason that another Super Mario RPG would be amazing is because there has only been one, and it was made a over 10 years ago. We've already had enough Paper Mario and M&L for now.
I wouldn't say "enough," because there has only been 3 Paper Marios and 2 Mario and Luigis.
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I wouldn't say "enough," because there has only been 3 Paper Marios and 2 Mario and Luigis.
And soooo....3 Paper Marios+2 Mario & Luigis = also 2 Super Mario RPG!!
Then there isn't 2 without 3! So There will be another Mario & Luigi + other 2 Super Mario RPGs!! X3
I'm sure they will do a sequel of Super Mario RPG, because it is one of the greatest games of Mario of ever! This is sure!
..But I don't know when, how, who, which one...what?@_@
Nintendo also takes cares of Mario RPG characters, especially for Geno! Who can forget the Geno cameo in Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga?
Finally I think they are thinking of making somehing with a new Mario Rpg...maybe...
Now God knows, not the fans! XD
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Termina, anyone?
Of course. My bad! (but Mario's got Rougeport, Subcon (dream though it may be), Isle Delfino, Dinosaur/Yoshi's Island, Flipside and the BeanBean Kingdom under his belt)
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Termina, anyone?
Don't Forget Labrynna, Holodrum, Koholint Island and The Great Sea! Though I'm not sure The Great Sea really counts, as It's mostly located above Hyrule.
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Curses! Well, I've been sick lately... my (Shadow)brain's not what it used to be.
Oh, and the Great Sea... isn't that supposed to be Hyrule, just flooded? (I never really did understand what was up with the castle and everything being underwater)
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Yes.
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The reason that another Super Mario RPG would be amazing is because there has only been one, and it was made a over 10 years ago. We've already had enough Paper Mario and M&L for now.
Maybe if/when they make a true sequel, they could somehow tie in all the stuff that've been in the other RPG's (except for M&LPiT. That game was a good game, but it was not a good sequel. It just seemed to fail a bit).
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The problem with Partners in Time was that it lacked that whole 'exploration' aspect that basically every single RPG is supposed to contain. You know... how you're told you need to do something in a certain place, but you need to figure out how to get there first. Partners in Time ruined it. Basically, it was just 6 or 7 identical repetitions of "Learn new move, new area opens up, go there, get magic item." Practically the entire game was Point A to Point B. It just felt... really... really confining. I absolutely did not like it, and ended up selling it. It was the first time I actually read a review of a Mario game online and thought "What the hell, that's way too high of a score!"
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I'm with you 100% there (only I've still got it). "Excessively linear" is the key term here.
Maybe if/when they make a true sequel, they could somehow tie in all the stuff that've been in the other RPG's (except for M&LPiT. That game was a good game, but it was not a good sequel. It just seemed to fail a bit).
Paper Mario & Luigi RPG!
Honestly, I'm perfectly aware that there is a now-somewhat solidified trifecta of "Mario RPGs", but all we're really doing here is dividing games by graphical/play styles. Paper Mario was originally going to be called Super Mario RPG 2, for goodness sake.
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Speaking of Mario and Luigi Partners in Time, the whole time travel thing...well... wasn't really important (to the story?) at all. The only thing you used time travel for, is to get to new areas, and to gets the baby forms of Mario and Luigi. You may have noticed that the only place you can ever visit in the present is Peach's Castle.
Also, the time paradoxes hardly seemed to fit. (I think there was only one anyway.) When you douse the Thowmp in Elvin Gadd's House, his future self instantly gets the smarts to make the hydrogush 4 thousand-whatever-number. On the other hand, the shroobs have the castle in the past, yet they do not have it already in the future. In fact, the future does not seem to be affected at ALL by the shroobs, except for the time holes. Seems a little inconsistent.
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All in all, I think the only good thing I can say about that game, with the utmost sincerity, is that it had some awesome music.
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All in all, I think the only good thing I can say about that game, with the utmost sincerity, is that it had some awesome music.
Yeah, the graphics and music were definitely high points in that game. But it seems like Nintendo was focusing too hard on that rather than the rest of the game.
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Nintendo? Focusing on graphics?
Actually, the graphics weren't too different from the original.
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Not too different, no, but the application! I still get all awed whenever I use a Copy Flower.
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Yoko Shimomura IS and always will be the Mario RPG composer.
She is the only reason I could bare Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2. Here piano pieces are fantastic. That and Kairi was the only interesting character besides the Organization XIII.
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On the other hand, the shroobs have the castle in the past, yet they do not have it already in the future. In fact, the future does not seem to be affected at ALL by the shroobs, except for the time holes. Seems a little inconsistent.
It was the Bros destiny to travel back in time and save the future. Hence no MuShroob Castle in the present.