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Video Games => Video Game Chat => Topic started by: WarpRattler on June 09, 2010, 11:22:26 PM
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http://www.usatoday.com/life/lifestyle/2010-06-10-rockband10_ST_N.htm
Twenty-five keys and it'll work as a MIDI keyboard.
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two advanced guitar controllers that take advantage of the Pro mode, one a full-sized, fully functional Fender guitar
???
(Also, darn you USA Today for making E3 less cool.)
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"a real device"
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1) You are going to need a ****ing big-ass TV to play this game.
2) It's lovely to see Harmonix fall into the trap of making their games more and more and more complicated. It used to be quality over quantity, but no, rich thirteen-year-olds need as many plastic instrument toys as their living room can hold!
3) Why exactly are they trying to "transition gamers over to real instruments"? It's a god[darn] video game, not a U.S. Army musical training simulator. If you want to create music, buy an instrument, or Pro Tools, or do anything involving sound. I'm not the world's biggest music games fan, but I don't want Rock Band 4 to be a a box full of a couple real electric guitars, a big-ass drum set, a polished trumpet, and an accordian, complete with mime.
4) Now everyone gets all mad because I'm not gushing over this.
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Why should they? You bring up some valid points.
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I'm mad because your points 2) and 3) directly contradict each other. The game has too many plastic instrument toys, yet the game has too many real instruments?
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I think the main point of 2) is that the game is getting too stuffed with gimmicks, and Glorb is ticked because said thirteen-year-olds will buy the whole shtick hook, line, and sinker.
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Too stuffed with gimmicks, no. It is actually becoming too stuffed with awesome.
As a game that requires six friends, an HDTV, and skill, I can see why the majority of TMK is going to hate on it hard.
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Aaaaaahaahahahhahaha!
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On a related note...
What prevents me from enjoying The Beatles: Rock Band is knowing that there's no actual gameplay beyond this music minigame I'm required to endure in order to progress. Not being a able to manually explore an interactive environment or control an on-screen character is just too radical a gameplay departure for me, I suppose.
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I'm going to go play keys in a real band that doesn't play 100% covers. Right now.
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no actual gameplay beyond this music minigame I'm required to endure in order to progress.
[wtd]? What did you think you were buying?
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Having only played Guitar Hero/Rock Band with friends before, I was deceived into thinking that it would provide the same rollicking good fun when played alone.
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So you thought a game built around playing with at least three other people would be nearly as fun solo? What?
Also, LD, eight players, unless instrument people do double duty or you just don't deal with harmonies.
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It's fun solo, IMO. But go easy on WeeGee because his explanation his very valid. The experience is far more potent multiplayer.
8-player? Guitar + bass + drum + keyboard + vocal + harmony + harmony + ???
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(Could a mod split this into a thread called "Rock Band 3" starting with Warp's orig. post? Curse you for not having the balls to make a new thread, Wrattler.)
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I didn't say it's not fun solo. Most of my exposure to either series is through solo play in the pre-Neversoft Guitar Hero games, and that was all quite fun. But my experiences with Rock Band have been far more fun.
Also, my brain was adding a fifth instrument for some reason.
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Confirmed songs:
Metric, “Combat Baby”
Rilo Kiley, “Portions of Foxes”
Them Crooked Vultures, “Dead End Friends”
The Vines, “Get Free”
The White Stripes, “The Hardest Button to Button”
Phoenix, “Lasso”
Ida Maria, “Oh My God”
Juanes, “Me Enamora”
Jane’s Addiction, “Been Caught Stealing”
Smash Mouth, “Walkin’ on the Sun”
Spacehog, “In the Meantime”
Stone Temple Pilots, “Plush”
Dio, “Rainbow in the Dark”
Huey Lewis and the News, “The Power of Love”
Joan Jett, “I Love Rock and Roll”
Night Ranger, “Sister Christian”
Whitesnake, “Here I Go Again”
The Cure, “Just Like Heaven”
Ozzy Osbourne, “Crazy Train”
Queen, “Bohemian Rhapsody”
Jimi Hendrix, “Crosstown Traffic”
The Doors, “Break On Through”
I initially missed the detail that there's Pro difficulty for drumming too. Actual differentiation for the cymbals, as opposed to now where the cymbals and toms are equivalent except during fills.
Game journalist/guitarist quote regarding Pro guitar UI: "like trying to read tab notation on a piano roll going a hundred miles an hour." Since you're playing the 100% real guitar part, you'll of course have to learn the song legit, with the scrolling UI as just a reminder.
So where's Pro bass? I'd rather mess around with that first both for simplicity and since I already have a couple years of RL bass under my belt.
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I can already see the achievements now:
The Real Deal - 10G
"Gold Star a song with seven band members on Pro difficulty."
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Never heard of it
Never heard of it
HELL YEAH TCV ROCK ON \m/
Never heard of it
Pretty cool
Never heard of it
Never heard of it
Never heard of it
HELL YEAH JANES ADDICTION ROCK ON \m/
Pretty cool
Never heard of it
Pretty cool
Very cool, and R.I.P. Dio
Meh.
Pretty cool, and it's about [darn] time, this song was in GH1
HELL YEAH SISTER CHRISTIAN TURN IT UP \m/
HELL YEAH^2 WHITESNAKE THIS IS LIKE MY THEME SONG \m/
Never heard of it
Meh.
I've heard this song so many times it's a meh.
Sweet, they finally got some Jimi in there!
Sweet, they finally got some Doors in there!
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Huey Lewis and the News, “The Power of Love”
Joan Jett, “I Love Rock and Roll”
Ozzy Osbourne, “Crazy Train”
Queen, “Bohemian Rhapsody”
Jimi Hendrix, “Crosstown Traffic”
The Doors, “Break On Through”
The only ones I know or like.
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A big part of RB (for me) is learning cool new songs.
Glorbnote: There have been many Jimi songs in both GH and RB.
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rockband.com%2Ffiles%2Fzine%2Frb3_box_art.jpg&hash=09a8d1c35b689b1ecff136dd802a5eb8)
Keyboard parts are pitch-accurate i.e., if the note playing in the song is a G# the chart will have you pressing G#. This was not true in Keyboardmania.
Pro isn't a difficulty above Expert, but a mode with its own Easy–Expert difficulties.
There is Pro Bass, but still seemingly no announced bass controller.
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How are these fancy pro controllers work? I want to know if I can just use my existing instruments with some sort of attachment or what. Because that'd be freaking sweet.
Edit: Never mind. It's got buttons. And I'm assuming that you can play pro bass on the pro guitar.
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I thought maybe they'd actually use something cool like MIDI guitar or something.
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Wait, I missed something. What's this about Pro controllers?
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Solid, Chup: You tards, there are TWO different Pro guitars. The cheaper one has six little strings just on the body with 102 buttons for frets. There is also a FULLY REAL GUITAR controller.
The button guitar is definitely a MIDI controller; not sure about the FULLY REAL GUITAR. For the other instruments, you can use ANY MIDI keyboard or drumset with the RB3 MIDI Pro Adapter Box.
Glorbnote:
- Pro Drums supports three expansion cymbals, with gameplay differentiation between toms and cymbals.
- Pro Keys features pitch-accurate keyboard performance across a two-octave range, displayed on an easy-to-read keyboard track.
- Pro Guitar features notated guitar and bass performances, available for play with either the new Fender Mustang PRO-Guitar simulated guitar controller from Mad Catz or the Rock Band 3 Squier by Fender Stratocaster Guitar real guitar/controller hybrid. The Rock Band 3 Squier Stratocaster is a fully functional, full-sized, six-string electric guitar that also functions as a game controller that Fender and Harmonix have teamed up to develop.
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Maybe instead of Rock Band Stage Lights they'll be selling Rock Band amps (a good idea).
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Harmonix wasn't content with real guitars, real keyboard, real drums, and real singing.
Now it's time for real dancing:
http://www.dancecentral.com/
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Jesus, this was what I was talking about. We don't need to bridge the gap between playing songs on a video game and playing real music. People need to cross that gap for themselves. Music isn't something you need to be edged into, one expensive baby step at a time, by progressively more complicated video game releases. Either you dive in and devote yourself to it, or stick to fun, non-creative button-hitting. I don't want to sound like an elitist, especially considering I don't play an actual instrument myself (it's all sampling and beats for me), but I feel that if you're interested in playing an instrument, you'll play it. If you need a big complicated video game centered around matching colored lights to a song to convince you to play an instrument, you're rich enough to have already bought a real instrument, and thus, are not destined to play it.