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Title: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on June 11, 2013, 09:12:31 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_5jb9nggGs

wait what do you mean 2014 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwLuB8ezMzs&feature=youtube_gdata_player)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on June 11, 2013, 09:14:47 AM
Pit's new moves, yesss
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Turtlekid1 on June 11, 2013, 09:23:23 AM
He had new moves?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on June 11, 2013, 09:29:16 AM
So did Bowser.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on June 11, 2013, 09:47:37 AM
Did you miss his arm?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: KoopaTrooper on June 11, 2013, 09:53:37 AM
Upperdash arm at 1:09.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Turtlekid1 on June 11, 2013, 09:54:45 AM
Ah, okay, now I'm seein' it.  Glad they're incorporating Uprising.  Not that I really thought they wouldn't.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Tavros on June 11, 2013, 10:02:45 AM
Mega Man. I can now rest in peace.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Bigluigifan1.0 on June 11, 2013, 11:14:06 AM
Loved the beginning; made it look like Animal Crossing U (if that becomes a thing, which it totally will) and then BOOM. Wish we had more to go off of than just a 2 minute video.

Question:
Balloon Fighter? Is that gonna be something Villager can do?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Tavros on June 11, 2013, 12:18:32 PM
What do you think Mega Man's final smash will be?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Lizard Dude on June 11, 2013, 12:49:41 PM
Notice that the Spirit Tracks stage had Toon Link built-in as the conductor. That probably means Toon Link won't be a playable character.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: KoopaTrooper on June 11, 2013, 12:52:09 PM
Toon link was a stupid idea anyway, he was an exact clone of Link.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Bigluigifan1.0 on June 11, 2013, 12:54:11 PM
Yeah, I doubt Toon Link will be back as a playable character.

I really am looking forward to trying out the 3DS version as well; it should be awesome!
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Tavros on June 11, 2013, 12:55:07 PM
It sorta looks like Ōkami.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on June 11, 2013, 01:51:25 PM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FOgXuCtU.gif&hash=b4d6dd844a17f37ecaeade3cb8c8b37d)

Not even mad. To put things into perspective, I hate Animal Crossing, think Villager is a lame character from a lame non-game, but think the way he's being done in this is totally cool. No big difference.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Tavros on June 11, 2013, 01:53:44 PM
Toon link was a stupid idea anyway, he was an exact clone of Link.
Dude. Have you not played Melee? Young Link was a clone of Link, and had 2 games, instead of Toon Link's 3.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Ninjap00 on June 11, 2013, 01:58:30 PM
what in the heckle is this shuckle (http://www.smashbros.com/us/characters/wii_fit_trainer.html)
edit: oh i see, bp
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Bigluigifan1.0 on June 11, 2013, 02:39:43 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBoL1Ic9uWw
I love it.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: KoopaTrooper on June 11, 2013, 02:47:09 PM
I like it. The face with no eyes scared me, it looks so real but creepy.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Toad on June 11, 2013, 04:10:35 PM
What is this garbage. She's not a game character. Wii Fit is not a game, it's an interactive fitness application.

What is a character like this doing in a mascot fighting game? She's not a mascot for anything.

I almost want to say Mii would be a better choice, but I hate the Mii's as characters too.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: KoopaTrooper on June 11, 2013, 04:22:45 PM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F9yeOBlX.jpg&hash=64738bdd80894e26120efc7b7d842675)
Nintendo should not try to simulate real life people. Their trademark is cartoon characters which don't really look real.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on June 11, 2013, 04:23:16 PM
Marketing tool.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: KoopaTrooper on June 11, 2013, 04:24:55 PM
Whoops nothing to see here pressed wrong button
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Turtlekid1 on June 11, 2013, 04:28:16 PM
What do you think Mega Man's final smash will be?
He'll glare really hard at an enemy and make them grovel and cry at his feet.  This is bringing back memories of that one moveset thread...
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Ninjap00 on June 11, 2013, 05:06:30 PM
Don't get the hate for the Wii Fit character, looks fun to play as and the reveal was hilarious. I was a bit disappointed initially when my friend told me that the Wii Fit Trainer was a character in the new Smash, but after I saw the reveal/gameplay video I was more than okay with it. I mean, why not put it in there? Plus we got MEGA MAN.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on June 11, 2013, 05:41:23 PM
Also, everybody knows that every character totally steals a spot on the roster from somebody else, and I'm getting huge No Geno vibes from this chick

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Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on June 11, 2013, 06:44:19 PM
Nintendo should not try to simulate real life people. Their trademark is cartoon characters which don't really look real.

Yeah, Samus looks so cartoony.

Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Turtlekid1 on June 11, 2013, 07:09:29 PM
Her design does look rather more stylized than in Brawl...
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on June 11, 2013, 07:21:03 PM
Sakurai himself said it's based on her Other M model. -___-
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: ShadowBrain on June 11, 2013, 08:04:59 PM
Psyched for the Villager and Mega Man! Fit Trainer irked me at first, but then I realized that she/it is a character from a popular Nintendo franchise just like the rest of them. I mean, "character", "popular", and "franchise" are generous terms, but there's no argument there that couldn't be used against several other characters.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on June 11, 2013, 08:31:06 PM
Also, everybody knows that every character totally steals a spot on the roster from somebody else, and I'm getting huge No Geno vibes from this chick

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FVp4OVuG.gif&hash=b66b359d3bf69fd2296f620d22c68bd7)
I don't know, Konami and Sega aren't credited in the copyrights at the end of both trailers, so they could be taking out Snake and Sonic. (or they just don't have the rights yet)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: CrossEyed7 on June 11, 2013, 09:15:36 PM
I'll be pretty surprised if Sonic's out, with Nintendo publishing Lost World. Snake being gone wouldn't be surprising, but it would be sad.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on June 11, 2013, 09:21:19 PM
I doubt either one's gone. It makes good business sense between Nintendo and SEGA for Sonic, Sakurai and Kojima being on good terms for Snake... Mega Man eliminates any doubt I had, my only thought being that maybe only Brawl would have guest characters.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Turtlekid1 on June 11, 2013, 09:23:26 PM
Sakurai himself said it's based on her Other M model. -___-
Exactly.  More cartoony, as compared to the Prime-resembling model from the last game.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: KoopaTrooper on June 11, 2013, 09:27:29 PM
I doubt either one's gone. It makes good business sense between Nintendo and SEGA for Sonic, Sakurai and Kojima being on good terms for Snake... Mega Man eliminates any doubt I had, my only thought being that maybe only Brawl would have guest characters.

But see, then it wouldn't be Nintendo Brawl. That's the point, isn't it?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on June 11, 2013, 09:31:43 PM
I believe the full title is Super Smash Bros. Brawl but I have been known to make mistakes from time to time
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: KoopaTrooper on June 11, 2013, 09:37:51 PM
I believe the full title is Super Smash Bros. Brawl but I have been known to make mistakes from time to time

I'm sorry. I thought the premise of the game was to promote Nintendo, not Sega. I mean, it's not like its on the PS3 or something. Nintendo makes their own games, and they choose what they want in their games. They're not going to invite half the characters of Ubisoft.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Turtlekid1 on June 11, 2013, 10:09:18 PM
They have altered the premise.  Pray they do not alter it further.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: ShadowBrain on June 11, 2013, 10:11:56 PM
Sakurai himself said it's based on her Other M model. -___-
I *thought* that armor looked curvier... hopefully she won't have to get Adam's permission to do a taunt.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on June 11, 2013, 10:20:55 PM
I'm sorry. I thought the premise of the game was to promote Nintendo, not Sega. I mean, it's not like its on the PS3 or something. Nintendo makes their own games, and they choose what they want in their games. They're not going to invite half the characters of Ubisoft.

1. The premise of the game is to have a bunch of characters people like beat the snot out of each other.

2. No, but Sonic isn't a PS3-exclusive character. Nor is Mega Man.

3. No, but they didn't invite half of SEGA's, Konami's or Capcom's characters either.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Lizard Dude on June 12, 2013, 12:27:56 AM
I mean, "character", "popular", and "franchise" are generous terms, but there's no argument there that couldn't be used against several other characters.
Generous terms?

Worldwide copies of Wii Fit and Wii Fit Plus sold: 43.53 million

Worldwide copies of Super Smash Bros. Brawl sold: 11.49 million

( As of March 31, 2013 ) (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/sales/software/wii.html)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Turtlekid1 on June 12, 2013, 06:47:41 AM
"Popular" is the only term you've really addressed there, which is also misleading since the demographics of the two sales figures may or may not actually overlap at all - Brawl being a game for long-time or at least more-than-cursory fans of Nintendo; Wii Fit being a glorified daily exercise tool.  One of these appeals to a wide market beyond those people who would actually give a rip about who's in the next Super Smash Bros. game, as demonstrated in this very thread as well as across the web in general following the announcement.  "Popular" in sales means nothing if no one looking forward to SSB4 really cares about it.  Obviously there has been some positive reception to this as well as negative, but 'most every fan seems to agree that there are about a hundred and one characters who need to be up for inclusion first.

Her value as a "character" is really next to nil.  Most of the representatives taking the stage in SSB have some semblance of nuance, personality, or expression; whereas the Trainer is literally meant to be a mostly-devoid of personality robot in the form of a visually appealing woman who can give simple tips and coach whoever's on the balance board.  Mario has never had much development as a character but he does have an interesting design and is usually quite expressive.  The red cap alone is iconic enough that it's used as... well, an icon (http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4430/clubnintendoicon.png).  In contrast, I wonder how many people watching the reveal trailer would have known who Wii Fit Trainer is at first glance without being explicitly told?

"Franchise" is pretty generous for a character with one and a half games to her name.  This isn't a huge deal in light of characters like the Ice Climbers and R.O.B. making it in, but the majority of characters in Smash can boast of at least a couple games in their respective sources, and I think the lack of being part of a long-standing series is part of the "wait, what?" reaction I'm seeing to the Trainer.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Trainman on June 12, 2013, 08:17:31 PM
cartoon characters

Cartoons? pretty sure they haven't been on the saturday morning block since the 80s.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: KoopaTrooper on June 12, 2013, 08:21:00 PM
Cartoons? pretty sure they haven't been on the saturday morning block since the 80s.


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If graphics were better they would be.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Tavros on June 12, 2013, 09:08:43 PM
If they had grandeur they would be.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: TheMightyThor on June 12, 2013, 09:24:53 PM
guys
mega man
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Toad on June 12, 2013, 09:25:51 PM
So I've had some time to think about it, and WFT's inclusion is no different from the Ice Climber's or Pit's in the previous game(s). They've all had one or two games before their SSB appearances.

The only problems that I still have with her are the fact that she's not a character from a game nor a mascot, which is what the SSB series is about.

But she might be fun to play as, and I don't have to use her if I don't like her.

So there. My two bits.


/me anxiously awaits Toad's announcement trailer.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on June 12, 2013, 09:50:42 PM
Super Smash Bros. IV: Delusions of Grandeur
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on June 12, 2013, 11:09:20 PM
If graphics were better they would be.

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Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on June 12, 2013, 11:18:48 PM
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Don't you know how graphics affect the quality of a show?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Godot on June 13, 2013, 12:31:26 AM
The Wii Fit instructor's comic value justifies her presence entirely to me. Her voice direction for this is spot on, too. But I personally love how absurd it is, and the way it's presented.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on June 13, 2013, 06:08:31 AM
Which characters do you suspect will get the axe?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: KoopaTrooper on June 13, 2013, 06:15:39 AM
Which characters do you suspect will get the axe?

-Ike
-Game and Watch
- hopefully ROB
-Lucario
-Toon Link
-At least one of the Earthbound characters
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on June 13, 2013, 07:36:06 AM
Don't diss the ROB. Or the Mr. Game & Watch.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: KoopaTrooper on June 13, 2013, 11:06:04 AM
Why is Nintendo obsessed with ROB? He appeared on one game as a side character and now they're acting like he's practically Mario. He is one of the most OP characters in the game and doesn't even deserve an assist trophy, he's so obscure.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Turtlekid1 on June 13, 2013, 11:24:45 AM
they're acting like he's practically Mario
I don't see him getting two new titles a year not counting spinoffs.

He is one of the most OP characters in the game
LOL "OP"

doesn't even deserve an assist trophy, he's so obscure
The entire point of Assist Trophies is to give characters who aren't prominent enough to be fully playable their own chance to appear.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on June 13, 2013, 11:32:25 AM
I'd hardly call one of the main selling points of their first home console release in western territories "obscure".
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on June 13, 2013, 11:59:01 AM
Is this a new game show? "Ladies and gentlemen, it's time once again for that sensational new game show, Call Out That Misinformation!"
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Luigison on June 13, 2013, 12:23:56 PM
If I recall correctly, they added R.O.B. to the NES to be able to sell it in toy stores. 
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Toad on June 13, 2013, 04:09:11 PM
Is this a new game show? "Ladies and gentlemen, it's time once again for that sensational new game show, Call Out That Misinformation!"

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Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Godot on June 13, 2013, 04:36:48 PM
He is one of the most OP characters in the game

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Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Godot on June 13, 2013, 04:53:51 PM
As to who will get the axe,  http://www.dota2wiki.com/images/3/34/Axe_firstblood_02.mp3 (http://www.dota2wiki.com/images/3/34/Axe_firstblood_02.mp3)

The Fire Emblem characters probably will be replaced,
Wolf has no real chance,
I doubt Pokémon Trainer will get through unscathed,
Lucas also looks unlikely to return,
Snake is a goner,
Diddy may or may not stay, hard to tell,
Lucario probably won't make it to the next installment,
I'm unsure of the safety of Meta-Knight and DeDeDe, but it is being directed by Sakurai, so they might be safe.

As to who will stay that isn't obvious,
Toon Link will keep because of the Wind Waker remake,
and ROB will stay because Nintendo absolutely loves ROB. For some reason. Can't say I blame them, I also love ROB a lot more than I should.
Sonic will also probably stay since SEGA has an exclusive deal with Nintendo now.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on June 13, 2013, 05:49:07 PM
You're saying they'll keep Toon Link because of Wind Waker HD but aren't sure of Diddy despite them just announcing a new DKC?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: CrossEyed7 on June 13, 2013, 08:15:21 PM
Dixie Kong would be nice.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on June 13, 2013, 08:17:05 PM
How do I buzz in? I wanna win the cash money!
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Ultima Shadow on June 13, 2013, 10:15:51 PM
Toon Link was spotted as the train driver on the Spirit Tracks stage. I'd say he's good as gone.

Ike, Lucario, Wolf and Lucas look unlikely too. Perhaps ROB too, but considering his importance, I'd say he's reasonably safe.

As for new characters, Ridley would be nice, if they can figure out how to balance it. Dixie or K. Rool should get in; Dixie perhaps more of a chance at the moment. Mewtwo's new form/evolution thing might be likely as a replacement for Lucario, as might Krystal if they replace Wolf. They'll put in the new Fire Emblem character of choice to replace Ike (Chrom? Micaiah? Lyn? I don't know the series) and probably another Mario character. Waluigi to rep the spin-offs perhaps?

I'm not fussed who they put in, really, so long as they buff Jigglypuff, Luigi and Falcon. All hugely underpowered in Brawl imho.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Trainman on June 13, 2013, 10:26:05 PM
Mmmm.... I don't see them getting rid of Snake. I'd say he's pretty prominent.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Toad on June 15, 2013, 10:18:03 AM
Toon Link was spotted as the train driver on the Spirit Tracks stage. I'd say he's good as gone.


That didn't stop Nintendo from making Mario playable when he was also the referee in Mario Tennis 64 (I know: different game, but meh).
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on June 15, 2013, 12:31:29 PM
I don't think it necessarily means he's gone either, but if what they want is representation of all corners of Zelda, it's already done. There's a Skyward Sword stage, a Spirit Tracks stage, and Link's design is the same as in Brawl/the Wii U tech demo. I'm glad to see Link isn't a specific individual from any existing game. Either just from that in itself, or from the possibility that it means the Wii U tech demo is going to be built off of?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Godot on June 15, 2013, 12:48:28 PM
If they go by the Capcom model of background characters, they could include Toon Link and just replace him with a different model driving the train if someone's playing him.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: KoopaTrooper on June 15, 2013, 12:52:36 PM
Nintendo likes to make their characters unique and not just different colors of each other.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BriGuy92 on June 15, 2013, 05:40:01 PM
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Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Luigison on June 15, 2013, 06:53:12 PM
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Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
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Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on June 15, 2013, 07:12:22 PM
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Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on June 15, 2013, 09:12:16 PM
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Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on June 15, 2013, 09:42:47 PM
That'll do, BP, that'll do.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on June 15, 2013, 10:01:23 PM
no

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get dunked

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eat dirt

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Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: KoopaTrooper on June 15, 2013, 11:41:49 PM
Luigi and Mario, as well as Pit and Dark Pit have each of their own back stories and a seperate characters. The other were created solely for multiplayer and are completely arbitrary and are not their own characters in and of themselves.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on June 16, 2013, 04:16:51 PM
Yeah, people totally didn't complain that Ganondorf has been a clone of Captain Falcon for 2 games straight.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Trainman on June 16, 2013, 04:43:39 PM
in b4 WarpRattler starts typing out and italicizing the titles of the games as SSBfWU and SSBf3DS.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: WarpRattler on June 16, 2013, 05:08:18 PM
I don't italicize abbreviations.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: KoopaTrooper on June 16, 2013, 05:50:24 PM
in b4 WarpRattler starts typing out and italicizing the titles of the games as SSBfWU and SSBf3DS.

Those are the official names? How bland.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on June 16, 2013, 05:52:59 PM
SSBfWU and SSBf3DS

http://themushroomkingdom.net/board/index.php?topic=12712.0
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on June 16, 2013, 08:18:12 PM
They're either the official names or they haven't decided on an official name yet. Who cares.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Toad on June 16, 2013, 10:39:11 PM
Those are the official names, and I think it plays in well with the..name..

It's SSB4, and it's going to be SSB for Wii U/3DS
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Godot on June 17, 2013, 10:11:03 AM
There were so many great options though. SSB Kerfuffle, SSB Pugilism, SSB Scuffle, SSB Fisticuffs, etc.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Luigison on June 17, 2013, 11:01:57 AM
Too bad they sold Tetris. 
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: KoopaTrooper on June 17, 2013, 12:07:27 PM
Those are the official names, and I think it plays in well with the..name..

It's SSB4, and it's going to be SSB for Wii U/3DS

If those are the names, it's going to be an awful hard marketing sell. The name doesn't imply that it has any inherent quality about it that will make you want to buy it.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: ShadowBrain on June 17, 2013, 12:22:47 PM
Except that it's super, and involves smashing.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on June 17, 2013, 01:22:37 PM
What does the term "brand recognition" mean to you

Hell, you could leave it untitled and just have a picture of Mario and Pikachu on the box and it'd sell
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: KoopaTrooper on June 17, 2013, 02:00:36 PM
To the lowest common denominator of society, yes.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on June 17, 2013, 02:03:14 PM
Yeah, selling the game to as many people as possible is totally a bad thing.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on June 17, 2013, 05:13:40 PM
To the lowest common denominator of society, yes.

Who do you think is buying SSB?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Godot on June 17, 2013, 06:31:05 PM
Super Smash Brothers anything will sell copies until the franchise proves itself to no longer be of quality. I'd buy Super Smash Brothers Tea. I would drink Super Smash Brothers if they'd let me.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on June 17, 2013, 06:43:45 PM
Couldn't you boil the CD in water?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Godot on June 17, 2013, 08:09:36 PM
That makes fewer servings than you'd think.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Turtlekid1 on June 18, 2013, 06:47:26 AM
To the lowest common denominator of society, yes.
Even putting The Chef's immediate response aside, Smash is not to games as reality shows are to television.  I don't understand how tournament players and long-time Nintendo customers qualify as LCD.

I mean, the pros are going to whine about whatever changes to the game are made but they'll still play it up and down and develop an extensive metagame for it.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Glowsquid on June 18, 2013, 08:12:36 AM
Quote
To the lowest common denominator of society, yes.

"The name is going to make it a tough sell",

"The brand name alone is going to make it sell".

"Yeah... to the widest audience."

???
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: KoopaTrooper on June 18, 2013, 09:13:47 AM
Even putting The Chef's immediate response aside, Smash is not to games as reality shows are to television.  I don't understand how tournament players and long-time Nintendo customers qualify as LCD.

I mean, the pros are going to whine about whatever changes to the game are made but they'll still play it up and down and develop an extensive metagame for it.

I'm not saying pros are the lowest common denominator. I'm talking more about poor people who have been brainwashed by brand recognition and will buy anything if it has Mario on it.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on June 18, 2013, 09:35:24 AM
So....you don't  want lots of people giving Nintendo money???
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Trainman on June 20, 2013, 06:17:52 PM
Every time I see one of KoopaTripper's posts, I think of glorb.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: KoopaTrooper on June 20, 2013, 07:17:07 PM
Glorb was more aggravated and trolly.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on June 20, 2013, 07:41:15 PM
Y-you mean you weren't trolling this whole time?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on June 20, 2013, 08:28:52 PM
I read "trolly" as trolley.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on June 20, 2013, 08:38:41 PM
ALL ABOARD THE GLORB
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: KoopaTrooper on June 20, 2013, 08:41:22 PM
Now boarding at platform 9 and 3/0. Be sure to mention promo code "every".
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on June 20, 2013, 08:45:27 PM
On a side note, if you want to complain about Wii Fit Trainer, just remember they made a stage out of PictoChat, which is much less of a game than Wii Fit.

ninja edit: Platform 9 and NaN?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Toad on June 21, 2013, 02:30:52 PM
Welcome back Glorb! It's been a long time


AT least the Pictochat stage is exciting. I don't see how they could do a Wii Fit stage.. of course, they also made a stage out of Hanenbow..
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: KoopaTrooper on June 21, 2013, 03:07:48 PM
I'm not Glorb.

And the pictochat stage is graphically boring.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on June 21, 2013, 05:57:17 PM
One day you're in the chat using the stock "GRAPHICS DON'T MAKE A GAME GOOD" line and today Pictochat is graphically boring

Just get out
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Trainman on June 21, 2013, 06:03:30 PM
As we all know, the "graphics dont make a good game" line of reasoning is completely dead now.

Tropical Freeze is a wonderful example of how excellent graphics make an excellent game even excellent-er.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: KoopaTrooper on June 21, 2013, 07:36:20 PM
Pictochat is boring in the sense that it is monochromatic, not actual quality of rendering.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on June 21, 2013, 08:26:30 PM
So by your logic, every single black-and-white movie ever made is boring just because they're black-and-white.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: KoopaTrooper on June 21, 2013, 08:27:43 PM
Yes in fact, they kinda are.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on June 21, 2013, 08:29:37 PM
You will now turn in your movie-watching license for the rest of eternity.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: KoopaTrooper on June 21, 2013, 08:33:04 PM
I'm not saying its an inherently bad movie, just that its harder to follow them because they are black and white.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on June 21, 2013, 08:33:28 PM
How???????

Edit: Actually you just said they were "boring", not "hard to follow". Where did that even come from?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on June 21, 2013, 10:23:02 PM
Also by the same logic, most books are boring since they also are black and white.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Ultima Shadow on June 22, 2013, 04:11:36 AM
Humphrey Bogart confirmed for SSB4
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on June 23, 2013, 01:54:11 AM
Miiverse posts are in black and white BORING AAAA

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Posted this one in the midst of a field of requests for geno and drawings of Mario, Mega Man and Sonic about to fight. I'm such a HIPSTER
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Ninjap00 on June 23, 2013, 05:54:56 PM
i also posted this in my fan creations or whatever thread but i drew a meggerman because i was so excite, look at it
please
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on July 12, 2013, 08:53:19 AM
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Whistle

God the stages look good. I'm happy about that. The number of Brawl stages with recycled assets from GameCube games was awful. I complain about that a lot, but I loved the way Melee had new up-to-date models for most of the stages and trophies, lending everything a consistent visual style and made it feel like a celebration of Nintendo properties. Brawl felt more like a scrapbook, and all the new effort went into SSE. Yes, that's right, make a game in a primarily multiplayer genre, and a crossover, and put all the time and resources into a single-player mode with hideous enemy designs and bland, generic maps that aren't crossed over from anything. While you're at it, make clashing gameplay concepts turn it into a frustrating, thankless nightmare and force the player to do everything twice to see the ending, and then AGAIN for 100% completion. 10/10 idea, Sakurai. Only no. That is a sarcastic joke. 0/10 would complain on the Internet about it again. I'm thrilled that it isn't happening a second time. So I'm more happy about the way everything, not just the stages, looks so far.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on July 12, 2013, 12:00:13 PM
I was going to argue with you on the Great Maze, but I remembered how boring it was. At least it had a save feature so you could leave once you lost your attention span. (not that it was ever needed for me)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: TheMightyThor on July 12, 2013, 09:31:51 PM
To be fair, BP, Melee needed new models for almost everything because it was a really early GC release.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Trainman on July 13, 2013, 07:10:43 PM
BP, the stages in SSE were based off the areas the characters were all in during the events of smash bros. It's consistent in that regard at least, but I completely agree that the stages could've borrowed assets from all the games. Correct me if I'm wrong, wasn't there a DK barrel sequence somewhere in there... it's been so long since I've played it.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BriGuy92 on July 13, 2013, 07:25:50 PM
I disagree with you on the overall quality of SSE, BP, but I certainly see your point. It's interesting to imagine what Brawl might have been had less time been dedicated to the single-player modes. But even so, I'm really satisfied with the Brawl that we got. SSE has its flaws, but I had loads of fun with it. I even liked the Great Maze! And multiplayer also has flaws, but they aren't flaws that, to me at least, make it unfun. That said, I'm really interested to see where Smash 4 goes, both in terms of multiplayer mechanics, and whatever single-player modes it ends up with. I'll probably even end up buying it twice!
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Trainman on July 13, 2013, 07:33:41 PM
Online multiplayer was, of course, a joke. Here's hoping Nintendo has the capability to at least try to match PSN with the Wii U.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BriGuy92 on July 13, 2013, 07:42:30 PM
Oh right. That. It was so bad, I forgot that it existed.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on July 13, 2013, 10:03:49 PM
Online multiplayer was, of course, a joke. Here's hoping Nintendo has the capability to at least try to match PSN with the Wii U.
I have played several WFC games and not noticed any lag. Either everybody else's internet is terrible, or Minecraft made me desensitised to lag.

Or I'm not good enough to notice.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Ninjap00 on July 13, 2013, 10:47:12 PM
The could be and often was a huge input delay; input lag rather than a framerate drop or teleporting/strange movement. Although I don't remember if teleporting happened also.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Fifth on July 13, 2013, 11:52:52 PM
In order to keep the games synced on both (or all) ends, I think they employed input lag and, while they didn't DROP the framerate per se, I seem to remember them pausing or slowing down the action if things got too desynchronized.  At the worst of times, the game became a turn-based tactical game: with generous slow-down and huge chunks of time before you saw your moves take effect, you had to (and had the opportunity to) think several steps ahead, and queue up the appropriate moves.  And while that could make an interesting idea for SOME kind of game, it ended up really lousy for Brawl.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on July 14, 2013, 04:02:37 PM
Signs are pointing towards a turn-based Nintendo crossover game. RPG? Strategy game? Uh...board game?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: CrossEyed7 on July 14, 2013, 04:52:24 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, wasn't there a DK barrel sequence somewhere in there... it's been so long since I've played it.
As I recall, there were parts where you got shot between things that worked just like the DKC barrel cannons, but they weren't DKC barrel cannons, they were some new made-up generic metal thing.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on July 14, 2013, 07:53:21 PM
There were a lot of suspiciously similar replacements in tSsE. Why they didn't just use the real thing is beyond me.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on July 14, 2013, 08:15:35 PM
To make it more... uncanny.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: ShadowBrain on July 14, 2013, 09:42:56 PM
I had a ball with SSE, but then again, I've never really been into serious competitive fighting. As for the "recycled"/non-series-specific elements, I actually enjoyed the concept of the adventure taking place predominantly in areas and against enemies that would be totally alien to the characters; the plot may have been nuts and by no means canonical, but I felt like there was actually room for *more* creativity that way!
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Toad on July 15, 2013, 11:15:38 AM
I feel that way too. Our favorite characters fighting some kind of common, alien evil.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: LG97 on August 02, 2013, 07:25:44 PM
I´m just happy that Nintendo give a chance to Megaman, he is so awesome, and well im kinda like "What the hell with the wii fit trainer"...¿it should be promotion?
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Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on August 02, 2013, 09:33:34 PM
....No.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Turtlekid1 on August 02, 2013, 09:53:00 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6BL6QvKljo?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on August 02, 2013, 09:59:46 PM
CHAR REQUEST: REGGIE

NUTRAL B: EVRY1 DIEZ
UP B: FLY CUZ REGGIE IS GAWD
DWN B: MOAR DIEZ
SID B: SHOOT WIIMOTE HADOUKEN

FINEL SMAAAASH: MY BODY IS READY


/circlejerk
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on August 03, 2013, 12:05:30 AM
^ Basically.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: LG97 on August 03, 2013, 08:24:06 PM
CHAR REQUEST: REGGIE

NUTRAL B: EVRY1 DIEZ
UP B: FLY CUZ REGGIE IS GAWD
DWN B: MOAR DIEZ
SID B: SHOOT WIIMOTE HADOUKEN

FINEL SMAAAASH: MY BODY IS READY


/circlejerk
Brazzers...
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on August 03, 2013, 08:26:21 PM
???
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: ShadowBrain on August 04, 2013, 07:14:56 AM
I think he's referencing that "joke" where you superimpose the Brazzers logo on a random awkward/disturbing image.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on August 04, 2013, 06:23:07 PM
Or perhaps it's a cryptic Rule 34 request.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on October 07, 2013, 10:36:49 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOcEQW5w6VE

OFISHUL NINTENDO FOOTAG
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Tavros on October 08, 2013, 01:14:40 PM
I didn't know Ogres Have Layers was working on this.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on October 08, 2013, 01:56:02 PM
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Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on October 08, 2013, 02:17:05 PM
Ogres Lack Texture
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on December 18, 2013, 10:08:28 PM
Rosalina confirmed. (http://www.smashbros.com/us/characters/rosetta.html)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Themetaknight on December 29, 2013, 02:22:42 AM
How is KoopaTrooper back?
Or was he banned after this time?

Oh, yes, whoever said toon link wasn't coming back, he's coming back
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on January 13, 2014, 09:55:19 PM
King Dedede is coming back. I also think that at this point the name is going to just be Super Smash Bros For Wii U and 3DS. Because it would be entirely wrong to call it SSB4.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on January 18, 2014, 11:33:57 PM
CHALLENGER APPROACHING
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on January 19, 2014, 10:09:18 AM
That's a picture of Brawl.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BriGuy92 on January 19, 2014, 12:19:12 PM
I think he probably knows that.

... probably.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on January 26, 2014, 07:55:07 PM
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i guess you could say they're ready to kick each other's butts
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: ShadowBrain on January 26, 2014, 08:07:03 PM
Show me some actual shoes, and then I'll be really impressed.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on January 26, 2014, 10:00:35 PM
Marth's would look really great with a vintage fedora.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on January 26, 2014, 10:24:13 PM
Only you, Weegee.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on January 30, 2014, 07:35:12 AM
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Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Toad on January 30, 2014, 09:53:49 AM
So Palutena is a newcomer..?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BriGuy92 on January 30, 2014, 11:29:28 AM
I guess...?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Tavros on January 30, 2014, 11:54:07 AM
I've heard he's just trolling us.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on January 30, 2014, 12:22:04 PM
Somebody's gullible...
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on January 30, 2014, 01:45:30 PM
that was a joke, check the site
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Tavros on February 10, 2014, 10:12:59 AM
Oh so yeah Lucario's in.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on February 10, 2014, 04:01:14 PM
Before gen 6 hit I thought he'd probably be replaced by whatever the "new Lucario/Mewtwo" was. But there wasn't, really--there was Mega Lucario. Even if Zoroark had been popular, its gimmick wouldn't really translate to Smash well. I think now that Lucario is exactly they really wanted and didn't have when they put Mewtwo in Melee. Mewtwo was iconic and has the toughness to balance out Pikachu, but I wonder if they wished they had the heroic mascot of justice and honor thing that Lucario has going on.

I'd rather neither have the roster overcrowded with Pokémon nor have the playable pokémon be overcrowded by veterans, so I kinda hope Jigglypuff gets some retirement... though I guess if Mario has five now, so could Pokémon, including two extras via a Pokémon Trainer. I wouldn't be disappointable at all if Calem or Serena made it in with the same sort of starter setup Red had in Brawl. Froakie line is my favorite of starters.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: jdaster64 on February 12, 2014, 07:37:53 PM
Yeah, I'd definitely be for a Kalos-starters Pokémon Trainer; I like all three lines at least as much as the Kanto ones.  I'm curious as to who if anyone will be revealed in tomorrow's Nintendo Direct...
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on February 13, 2014, 04:04:32 PM
LITTLE MAC CONFIRMED
(no website page yet, just seen in ND)
Edit: http://www.smashbros.com/us/characters/little_mac.html
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on February 13, 2014, 04:38:12 PM
BP had better be all like SQUEEEEEE.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on February 13, 2014, 05:05:44 PM
I'm happy.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on February 13, 2014, 07:41:52 PM
~
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on April 04, 2014, 02:52:24 AM
From the latest Sakurai Miiverse pic comment:
Quote
Congratulations on your appearance Isabelle! [do not worry, it was as an assist, not a fighter]
I also have another important announcement.
On 4/8, at 3 PM PST (8/4 11 PM UK time), we'll be airing a Super Smash Bros. Direct!! There will be all kinds of info about the new Smash Bros. games on this simultaneous global stream that will be delivered "directly" to you, so don't miss it!
You'll be able to watch the stream from the official site (www.smashbros.com).

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FDGwlS2A.gif&hash=26d166e26ffcda467c4352ecd6fe6661)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Tavros on April 04, 2014, 08:38:42 AM
hype
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2F4%2F45%2FHype%21_FilmPoster.jpeg&hash=62aa0292e71ef2366bcac68fdb95ee8c)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on April 04, 2014, 12:00:33 PM
:D ???

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg66.imageshack.us%2Fimg66%2F6226%2Fhype20the20time20quest2fn0.jpg&hash=28b340a59777c70815f75c402c1d8795)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on April 08, 2014, 01:48:15 AM
[GET READY] (https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAADRUqF3FHDlow)

I'll probably be watching the Direct live and posting updates in this thread. To avoid flooding, I'll make one post at the beginning and edit it as the stream progresses. The post will be all mostly in spoiler tags, and unorganized until the stream is over.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on April 08, 2014, 03:27:29 PM
Direct update post:
Youtube stream has started with static "Super Smash Bros Direct" screen. Nothing interesting yet.

20m to Direct start: Now on the http://www.nintendo.com/nintendo-direct/04-08-2014/ page as well
IT'S STARTING
(enter spoiler zone)
3DS version planned for summer, Wii U for winter
Jungle japes confirmed for 3DS
My music confirmed for Wii U
Halberd confirmed for U and looking awesome
Yellow Devil confirmed stage hazard
Ridley also confirmed stage hazard, now shut up
Online confirmed for both. Lag appears to be better
Online will have 2 modes, a casual mode and a no items fox only final destination mode
All stages have a FD mode.
Cheating results in a ban.
Scoring mode where you outscore people
****loads of new items
Midna, chain chomp, and pong assist trophies
Transformations cut, ZSS and Sheik still returning
Kirby's final smash changed
Lucario can mega evolve

And inconvient dinnertime.
I'm back. Here's the major stuff:
Custom movesets
Charizard is now independent of Red.
Greninja is revealed. They did a really good job of making it kind of look like Mewtwo.

Link to the youtube of the direct. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xUWnQu2Grs)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on April 08, 2014, 04:56:37 PM
Transformations cut, ZSS and Sheik still returning

Read that as 'Shrek'.

Darn.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on April 08, 2014, 05:07:16 PM
Don't worry, maybe it'll be true if we spam it on the next pic of the day.

Link to my update post on the last page since it was a kind of important one. (http://themushroomkingdom.net/board/index.php?topic=14373.msg612488#msg612488)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on April 08, 2014, 05:25:27 PM
GUESS WHO'S HAPPY
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: CrossEyed7 on April 08, 2014, 05:48:11 PM
Not Ridley supporters!



But yeah, when I saw that, my very first thought was "BP just got a new main."

edit: I'm surprised they still haven't said anything about a female Animal Crossing villager.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on April 08, 2014, 06:39:42 PM
They still haven't shown or even mentioned Ridley by name though....
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: ShadowBrain on April 08, 2014, 06:45:26 PM
I'd have preferred Greninja and Midna switched places here, but otherwise I'm the happiest I've been in weeks. Never was a vocal supporter of Ridley positively or negatively, but I can feel the MAD over Charizard from all the way over here. I like the idea of separate (online) modes; hopefully they'll actually work, though.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on April 08, 2014, 06:57:32 PM
Ridley supporters are still in denial. "Maybe Sakurai is trolling!" "Maybe this is Other M Ridley and the playable one will be a different clone!" Maybe they're just not tearing off the bandaid fast and are trying as hard as they can to break it to you that he's not playable. Denial is painful enough and is only gonna set up for more disappointment later when you could just face the disappointment now. I am sympathetic about it and would probably be more upset if I were a bigger Metroid fan, I just feel like if they're this easy to disappoint and difficult to please, it's a bit deserved.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on April 08, 2014, 06:59:44 PM
I'm gonna miss R.O.B.

Also,
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on April 08, 2014, 07:03:57 PM
It doesn't make much sense to me that they'd be going out of their way to hide Ridley's presence and only kinda sorta imply that he's not playable only to come out and say he really isn't playable. That would be the biggest dick move they could possibly pull.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on April 09, 2014, 08:35:15 AM
I am sort of surprised that they made Charizard his own character instead of having a new Pokemon Trainer, but it makes sense with ZSS and Shiek being their own characters as well.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on April 09, 2014, 07:32:27 PM
Read that as 'Shrek'.

Darn.

Spoke to soon.

Kill me if I already posted this pic in another thread
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on April 09, 2014, 08:45:42 PM
*kills Weegee*
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: TheMightyThor on April 10, 2014, 06:13:08 PM
MARIOGUY HAS RETURNED
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: jdaster64 on April 10, 2014, 10:07:26 PM
Spoiler-y reactions:
Smash Run is literally the best thing.  Some guys at undergrad introduced me to Air Ride, and this is certainly the sequel it deserves.  Everything else they announced aside, that alone's more than enough to warrant a day-one purchase.  Greninja seems like a bit of an odd character choice, especially being revealed this early, but if they were going to put in a gen-six Pokémon, I suppose he's probably the best fit.  Interesting that there're apparently going to be at least a few Namco-related items/assists (Galaga ships, Rally-X's Special Flag), judging by the photos released since the presentation; I wonder what the odds of a Namco fighter are.

Overall, I like most of the changes they've announced to the existing characters; I can't say there's anything that really struck me as being a step back.  Also, not that I feel he's terribly unlikely to return, I really want to see some Ness footage already (and Lucas would be even better, as I am a bit skeptical of his chances of returning).
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: ShadowBrain on April 11, 2014, 05:57:42 AM
Oh yeah, forgot about Smash Run -- I am indeed inordinately psyched for that.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on April 11, 2014, 06:25:19 AM
I was only going to get the Wii U version, but I think I'll be getting the 3DS version too because of Smash Run and just the portability factor.

I would like to note that since Action Replay is available for 3DS, I think someone will be able to do some of the hex edits that add some Melee tactics to Brawl and the file patch code, making Project M for 3DS technically possible. (but unlikely since 3DS hacks aren't very common)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on April 15, 2014, 09:29:23 PM
Edit: Loud Video warning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz96eSYdFvc
competitiveness deconfirmed
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on April 15, 2014, 10:15:57 PM
The hazard-free For Glory stages would be the best idea if they were Battlefield clones instead of Final Destination ones. FD favors projectiles.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on April 16, 2014, 12:10:28 AM
Why are walk-offs banned again?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on April 16, 2014, 03:00:55 AM
Advanced play revolves around edgeguarding, for the most part.

Get a load of this guy. (https://www.change.org/en-AU/petitions/nintendo-nintendo-of-japan-remove-competitive-for-glory-mode-from-smash-bros-for-wii-u-and-3ds) Supported by Hitler himself.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Ultima Shadow on April 16, 2014, 03:06:18 AM
The hazard-free For Glory stages would be the best idea if they were Battlefield clones instead of Final Destination ones. FD favors projectiles.

Or, better yet, unique tourney-legal stages with different amounts of platforms at different heights, different sizes, slightly different combat dynamics, etc. No reason to have a roster full of Battlefields and Final Destinations when you can have a few Smashvilles or Lylat Cruises thrown in.

Get a load of this guy. (https://www.change.org/en-AU/petitions/nintendo-nintendo-of-japan-remove-competitive-for-glory-mode-from-smash-bros-for-wii-u-and-3ds) Supported by Hitler himself.

I do love how people are supporting the petition just so they can blast it...

Personally don't think I'd be using For Glory at all, I'm not that competitively minded. Give me high damage ratios and Bob-Ombs on Very High any day, thanks.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on April 16, 2014, 11:05:52 AM
Get a load of this guy. (https://www.change.org/en-AU/petitions/nintendo-nintendo-of-japan-remove-competitive-for-glory-mode-from-smash-bros-for-wii-u-and-3ds) Supported by Hitler himself.
Quote
Its not a fighting game, its a Brawler with item and hazzard based strategy combat.
Quote
with many sore losers who can't win during Item Games and or on Stages with real hazzards.... It Will make online boring.
Quote
mode is not 'For Glory', it is for People that don't want to Play the real Game
I bet this guy emails Nintendo every day to try to make them C&D Project M.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on April 16, 2014, 11:30:52 PM
Lessee:

- An entire mode based around tournament rules
- Different skins for Final Destination
- No more transforming for Sheik and Zero Suit Samus
- Solo Charizard
- A lot of emphasis on character rebalancing
- DK has a roll move
- Assorted other characters like Kirby have new or tweaked moves

If they reintroduce Wario and announce that he no longer has janky animation and a bunch of new moves, then I'll start to suspect Sakurai knows about Project M...
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: ShadowBrain on April 17, 2014, 06:06:32 PM
Quote
Items, Stage Hazzards, etc...
Quote
Taking out the items, real stages and hazzards is not what Smash Bros is about. Its not a fighting game, its a Brawler with item and hazzard based strategy combat.
Quote
sore losers who can't win during Item Games and or on Stages with real hazzards
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: TheMightyThor on April 17, 2014, 07:31:58 PM
That petition, BP...

and I thought tourneyfigs were lame.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on April 17, 2014, 08:08:02 PM
That came up when I was saying that everyone liked Melee--no one disliked it for having the potential for a tournament scene--and that Brawl trying to kill it only makes a chunk of the players upset without making another chunk any happier. Turns out I was wrong, apparently!
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on April 20, 2014, 11:18:19 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH3QsczwIa4
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on April 22, 2014, 06:53:27 AM
I really hope there's an event match where you play as a white Lucario with an orange Peach fighting against Greninja and Rosalina.

On Pyrosphere.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on April 22, 2014, 01:14:31 PM
Or bring back Great Sea just for the occasion
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: CrossEyed7 on April 22, 2014, 09:39:32 PM
I don't know why anyone ever thought Daisy would have a chance. She's been in exactly one actual non-spinoff game ever, and that came out before I was born. And she wasn't even in the sequel to that game. The only real legitimacy she has as a character is as Luigi's counterpart to Peach, but aside from how objectifying that view is, it also fails to realize that Luigi's true love is Peasley.

Which reminds me of that kid I saw on Miiverse the other day who was talking to Sakurai like "I know I said I wanted Fawful and Popple to be separate playable characters, but I've been thinking it over, and I think I'm mentally prepared for the possibility that they might be a team character."
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on April 22, 2014, 11:00:46 PM
How much of Daisy's personality is shown instead of told, anyway? Real question. I mean I've never even played a game in which Daisy & Luigi is anything more than a mention in a manual or trophy description, but I know they exist as team names and such in Sluggers or whatever.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: CrossEyed7 on April 22, 2014, 11:51:39 PM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mariowiki.com%2Fimages%2F9%2F9a%2FLuigiDaisy.png&hash=6f195dd6f438237fe1a1eb5a4a28779c)

There's this artwork from NES Open Tournament Golf, and there's the statue of them dancing in Mario Kart Wii, and that's pretty much it. There's honestly more canon evidence for LuigixRosalina than LuigixDaisy.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Toad on April 23, 2014, 07:33:41 AM
During her trophy sequence in Mario Power Tennis, Daisy accidentally knocks Luigi over, and calls him "sweetie". Just a little something I thought I would point out..
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on April 23, 2014, 09:19:36 PM
The sports games' cutscenes are oozing with life, but everybody conveniently forgets that they exist. I guess people want Mario to spend the rest of his days running to the right, punching blocks and jumping on enemies. Then complain when they get games that feature exactly that. I dunno.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Toad on April 23, 2014, 09:41:50 PM
I don't see what's to complain about. As long as each game is a little bit different, I'm ok with more of the similar gameplay (ie: the New SMB series. Each one looks graphically similar, but plays differently enough to me..)

If only they would pretend they were making a spin-off at some point, but it were actually a main game..
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on April 23, 2014, 11:06:52 PM
Luigi dating sim for Year of Luigi 2?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on April 24, 2014, 01:09:06 AM
Looks like Luigi's player #1 for a change.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on April 24, 2014, 08:38:28 AM
Anyway, speaking of Luigi, I'm pretty happy he apparently has a new final smash involving the Poltergust. Hope that Peach, Bowser and Mario have new ones too, new ones that phone it in less and fit the characters better. Some tell me Mario's shouldn't change because he's supposed to be the "starter character" whose attacks are easy to understand, to which I say that a weak melee attack whose two primary purposes are to reflect projectiles and make opponents face the other direction is a pretty advanced concept, to say nothing of a chargeable projectile move that doesn't do any damage.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on April 25, 2014, 10:34:42 PM
I hope Mario gets a new one kind of like Mega Man' (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNx1HiFIoRk)s, but instead of a bunch of Marios, since they're all the same guy in all the games, I'd like to see him do something like his Brawl Final Smash, then hit him with a golf club, tennis racket, and baseball bat in that order, fire a Banana, a Green Shell, a Red Shell, a Mushroom, turn invincible, then shoot a Blooper, and a Bob-omb from a Mario Kart, and finally turn paper and use the Supernova star power.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on April 27, 2014, 09:07:45 AM
All of those things have been repped already in some form, though.

Mario having one of his star powers from Paper Mario as a Final Smash is a pretty good idea by itself.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on April 27, 2014, 03:33:31 PM
Paper Mario would make for a bangin' character in his own right. Hammer, ground pound, flipping sideways to avoid attacks, calling up partners and Pixls, yeah.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: TheMightyThor on April 27, 2014, 04:03:23 PM
What we really need is YOUNG LINK WITH MASKS

Too bad transformations are cut.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Turtlekid1 on April 27, 2014, 05:35:08 PM
Anthony Higgs.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on April 27, 2014, 09:43:42 PM
I've forgotten who that is.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Turtlekid1 on April 27, 2014, 10:04:10 PM
That's racist.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Tavros on April 28, 2014, 08:54:09 AM
Guys.
We obviously need
MR. DREAM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg2.wikia.nocookie.net%2F__cb20090628200337%2Fpunchout%2Fimages%2F5%2F5d%2FMr_dream.png&hash=c6bb74c3f1ca69d5924a07ac32c466d4)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on April 29, 2014, 06:32:10 AM
Lessee:

- An entire mode based around tournament rules
- Different skins for Final Destination
- No more transforming for Sheik and Zero Suit Samus
- Solo Charizard
- A lot of emphasis on character rebalancing
- DK has a roll move
- Assorted other characters like Kirby have new or tweaked moves

If they reintroduce Wario and announce that he no longer has janky animation and a bunch of new moves, then I'll start to suspect Sakurai knows about Project M...
Today's PotD:
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FxzrV7vA.jpg&hash=28aee9c2e0e9d2fd26faf85b20b5e1ef)
"Pic of the day. Tether recovery? Yes, you can! And from even longer range than before. Multiple fighters can latch on--who actually grabs hold is determined by the same rules as the standard ledge grab."

Like in PM...
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on April 29, 2014, 10:13:11 AM
Smash 4 will be playable at Best Buy during E3, and an official tournament will be held with top players. (http://press.nintendo.com/articles.jsp?id=41525)

IS THIS REAL
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on May 02, 2014, 01:32:36 PM
So Dillon's an assist trophy. Huge waste.

I don't understand Nintendo. They have this game series that sells systems (other than Pokémon. Other than Mario Kart). This game series is powered by characters and things from other game series. It seems logical to me that for every Luigi's Mansion, Kirby Mass Attack/Canvas Curse, Mario Sunshine, Super Paper Mario and WarioWare, they would want to create completely new protagonists to go with the completely new everything else. They could kick off a new IP every time they send a new gameplay idea on its maiden voyage. That way, next time a Smash Bros. comes around, there would be loads of new material for playable characters to get people excited about. They're obviously not out of game ideas or creativity--even Kid Icarus Uprising could have been, aesthetically, anything else, although that one gets a free pass on this because KI was barely anything before and now it's a lot of things. They just have no faith that anything they make will sell unless they paint it the same as something that already has. Dinosaur Planet and Prince Fluff's Yarn will tell you.

Maybe for some of those, they're right, but what's the real difference between the perception people would have of Nintendo? You already have to watch trailers and Nintendo Directs carefully to tell if they're half-assing something. Nobody was expecting Game & Wario to be a new WarioWare, or Wario Land, or Super Mario Land. The brand recognition that "this is a game with Wario in it" changes almost nothing from what "this is a game Nintendo made" would be if they didn't use existing properties all the time. Their reputation is making reliably good games and sometimes making Yoshi's New Island. I don't think that would be very different if they used new paint on their new concepts.

Sorry, long thoughts. Rip in peace Dillon, still nothing can ruin Greninja and Little Mac being here.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on May 02, 2014, 04:43:42 PM
Yeah, like how they shoehorned all those Nintendo characters into Dragon King: The Fighting Game. After all, why play as characters you love, know, and give a crud about when you can play as Silver Guy, Blue Guy, Green Guy, and Red Guy!

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ssbwiki.com%2Fimages%2Ff%2Ff3%2FDragon-King--The-Fighting-Game.jpg&hash=8f3e92e912bfab60387dd6b83311e777)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on May 02, 2014, 05:55:51 PM
red guy op
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on May 02, 2014, 08:39:51 PM
Touche, bobby.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: TheMightyThor on May 03, 2014, 08:53:37 AM
What the hell are you talking about, Weegee? Everyone knows Red Guy is barely above bottom tier, Blue Guy is even often banned for his absolutely ridiculous Ftilt.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on May 07, 2014, 07:32:07 AM
Miiverse does know that every playable character has a trophy, right? (https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAADRUqF7YirqcA)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on May 07, 2014, 03:48:59 PM
That model is nowhere near playable character quality. Up to this point every newcomer has been introduced in a trailer.

Wii Fit Trainer is the only character so far from a franchise that didn't exist before Melee. I've got little to complain about next to all that I have to be excited about, but I'm just saying
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Tavros on May 14, 2014, 08:40:45 AM
Get a load of this guy. (https://www.change.org/en-AU/petitions/nintendo-nintendo-of-japan-remove-competitive-for-glory-mode-from-smash-bros-for-wii-u-and-3ds) Supported by Hitler himself.
Quote
Adolf Hitler INSIDE MEIN BUNKER IN BERLIN, GERMANY about 1 month ago    Liked 2
This is the greatest petition of all time. Your Führer approves of this
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on May 14, 2014, 09:00:22 AM
Uh...?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Tavros on May 19, 2014, 08:45:57 AM
Just in case somebody was too lazy, I guess. I don't remember why.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on May 20, 2014, 12:15:38 AM
Bought Kirby Triple Deluxe yesterday. Included is a sub-game called "Kirby Fighters", which is basically Kirby-versus-Kirby SSB. It's not bad, actually.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on May 28, 2014, 09:49:51 AM
Some info for the Best Buy demos are out.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/games-promotions/nintendo-smash-fest/pcmcat332400050002.c?id=pcmcat332400050002

Canada: http://plug-in.bestbuy.ca/t5/Video-Gaming/Super-Smash-Bros-Smash-Fest-Best-Buy/td-p/92368
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: TheMightyThor on May 28, 2014, 03:57:49 PM
None in my city :(
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on May 29, 2014, 02:45:05 PM
Nintendo can have all of my money. (https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/472076848382607361)

Edit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMQySEjyCUw
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: TheMightyThor on June 10, 2014, 08:26:29 PM
PAC MAN AND MR GAME AND WATCH CONFIRMED

MARIO
SONIC
MEGA MAN
PAC MAN
ALL IN THE SAME GAME
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on June 11, 2014, 09:35:15 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDsmjbifWUk
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Bigluigifan1.0 on June 12, 2014, 07:51:29 AM
I played the demo for the 3DS and Wii U version at Best Buy. One thing Best Buy (and Nintendo) failed to mention about the event, was that they would have guys in Mario/Luigi/Wario hats with two 3DS XLs attached to their belts that played SSB3DS. If you caught up with them, they let you play a round of Smash Run (including a battle after the stage) for a few minutes. What I found funny was that the demo roster for the 3DS was larger than (or maybe just different from) the one for the Wii U. While I can't remember what was on the 3DS version very well, I'm positive the Wii U version at least included these:

Mario
Bowser
Rosalina and Luma
Sonic
Mega Man
Little Mac
Pit
Wii Fit Trainer
Villager
Greninja
Pikachu
Fox
Kirby
Marth
Olimar
Samus
Zero Suit Samus

Those are the only ones I remember, anyway. They started out with technical difficulties, and the event didn't start for at least 45 minutes after 4 PM. Luckily my friend and I got a decent place in line, but it still took at least 3 hours before we made it to play. Eventually everyone in the store was in line. I couldn't tell if there were confused shoppers or if everyone else had just left. We were getting close to the end of the line, and they informed us that they were cutting the time in half; originally, they gave everyone two two-minute rounds (running up to four minutes total), but apparently the crowd was too large and they took out the second round for everyone else. As my friend and I like to live dangerously, we picked random. The stage roster was fairly small (especially compared to the character roster), but still decent. I only saw basic platform stages, like the Pilotwings stage (which we actually picked).

I ended up getting Pit, and they did improve him, but I still sucked at using him. Everyone else kept picking Greninja. I'm pretty sure the only round without Greninja yesterday was the one I was in. They turned on all items and I saw a couple of Final Smashes, but nothing too new. Giga Mac looks pretty awesome. After our two minute round, we went over to a little table with some souvenirs. I saw people leaving with Mario Kart 8 flags, but I was given no such flag. I did get a couple of SSB sticker decals and a pin. Unfortunately, everyone wants to go back on Saturday, and even though it was awesome, that was longer than I was hoping it would take.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on June 12, 2014, 10:42:21 AM
I think the stages were chosen for the invitational, although the FE stage had a walk off edge.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: TheMightyThor on June 12, 2014, 12:01:59 PM
The closest participating Best Buy is like 20 minutes from my house with no traffic, so my mom probably won't take me.
O-oh well ;_;
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: WarpRattler on June 12, 2014, 03:17:03 PM
My brother and I walked into Best Buy last night, saw the kiosk, saw the line that stretched from the kiosk to the back of the store, wrapped around a display, and went almost all the way back to the kiosk, and walked out of Best Buy.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on June 12, 2014, 03:46:19 PM
I have to go on Saturday, but if the line fills the store, I'm noping out of that Best Buy like there's no tomorrow.

Although, this Best Buy isn't in a really big city, although it's the capital of my state, so maybe it won't be too crowded.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BriGuy92 on June 14, 2014, 09:10:43 AM
I'm at Best Buy! I'm at the front of the line! Here (http://i.imgur.com/1gxb1tO.jpg)'s a picture of my good pal Godot also being in the front of the line, which doesn't prove that I'm here at all.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on June 14, 2014, 02:43:10 PM
My sisters, dad, and I went there and only had to wait in line for about an hour, which was good since to be first I probably would have needed to wait that long anyway. I played as Mega Man and Greninja, and was far better at Mega Man. My youngest sister played as Bowser and Pit, while my older (but still younger than me) one played as Pit and Little Mac. My dad didn't have any interest and just recorded for me and got weirded out by Greninja. I also got to try out some of the 3DS demos there, and I found the 3D effect to be really good. I'll upload the video of the Wii U gameplay soon.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BriGuy92 on June 14, 2014, 06:28:36 PM
They let you take a video? [darn], they didn't even let me take a photo.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on June 14, 2014, 07:50:12 PM
Maybe the rules varied by store? I'll make sure to keep the original around, though, in case my YouTube channel is seized by Nintendo in an attempt to destroy all footage of the game so people don't notice there's no wavedashing.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on June 20, 2014, 12:54:46 PM
I forgot to post these:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqTW13AYniY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVz-2VuAYlY

Also, here's the Treehouse videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edCQDRuL8Dk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jd0Z8jQ__QQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvux2dfsNEk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHYakDYtI98
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on July 11, 2014, 07:43:50 AM
Quote from: Sakurai
Oh, by the way! I'd like to reveal a new challenger. Instead of doing the unveiling on something like a Nintendo Direct, we're going to live-stream the reveal on the official website on Monday, July 14, at 7:00 AM US Pacific Time (4:00 PM European Central Time). Looks like we're nearing the bottom of the stash of new challenger videos that we've made... Like always, we put a lot of effort into it, so I hope you'll enjoy watching it live.
Source (https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAADRUqGG_w5Nyg)

Link to the YouTube stream (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzwF2kmNF8E)
Link to Nintendo's Twitch (may not show up here) (http://www.twitch.tv/nintendo/)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on July 14, 2014, 08:05:29 AM
Lucina, Captain Falcon, and Robin confirmed

Also, I think this deconfirms the Gematsu leak.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on July 14, 2014, 01:29:33 PM
If Fire Emblem can get 4 reps (not that I dislike Fire Emblem, I'm actually quite happy for all the Fire Emblem fans who wanted more girls and/or spellcasters), surely DK can get at least 3, right?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: CrossEyed7 on July 14, 2014, 04:54:42 PM
I'm still hoping Ms. Pac-Man is an alternate skin.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on July 14, 2014, 05:46:01 PM
Namco seems less and less keen to acknowledge Ms. Pac-Man these days. They weren't the ones who made it, after all.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Toad on July 15, 2014, 02:42:52 PM
Also, I think this deconfirms the Gematsu leak.

What is a Gematsu?


I guess Toad won't be playable in this one either..

/me quietly sulks while making Mario and Pit his regular playable characters, like in Brawl
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on July 15, 2014, 03:01:42 PM
It was a site where someone leaked a bunch of information about the new characters and saying things like, "Lucas and Wolf are out because clones" among other things. It was scarily accurate until yesterday, when Lucina was revealed instead of Chrom.

Edit: SPOILARS
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Turtlekid1 on July 15, 2014, 06:18:25 PM
How is Lucas out on the basis of being a clone if Ness isn't even confirmed for him to be a clone of?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on July 15, 2014, 07:30:57 PM
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Although, he might just be unlockable again, although Falcon probably isn't going to be unlockable
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on July 15, 2014, 07:51:42 PM
You really think Ness isn't gonna come back? Puh-leeeease. :P
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: LauriJ on July 21, 2014, 01:55:37 AM
So, what are your thoughs on Robin and Lucina joining the battle? Personally, I find it great that Fire Emblem gets more reps. What about you?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: CrossEyed7 on July 21, 2014, 06:02:34 AM
I hope Robin has some of their alternate hairstyles. Hair colors will probably be in, at least. I want to make my Robins look like my Robins in the game (different heights probably aren't happening, but both my male and female Robin were normal height anyway).
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on July 21, 2014, 12:49:22 PM
At first I thought they were Kingdom Hearts characters.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on July 21, 2014, 01:45:38 PM
Fire Emblem characters look plain compared to Kingdom Hearts characters.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on July 21, 2014, 04:44:51 PM
I've never really played Fire Emblem.

But I have played Smash Bros. and holy crap Lucina is the worst. She's more of a Marth clone than Roy was (she shares one of his idle poses for god's sake) and isn't even visually distinct from him. It only matters if you can tell the difference from far away, but they look alike even up close, as Marth has become more and more androgynous with each Smash Bros...

The funniest thing is that Sakurai's reasoning for not putting Chrom in the game is "He'd just be another swordfighter like Marth and Ike." While I don't disagree that the roster can be oversaturated with a certain character archetype, and the one that is approaching that is swordfighters, this is just an absurd rationale to not include a non-clone when Lucina is as "like Marth" as possible.

Also, uh... The dialogue in the trailer had that anime-style stiffness to it, like I could practically hear the forced voices echoing off the unrehearsed scripts three inches in front of the actors' faces. Nowhere near as natural-sounding as the Kid Icarus characters. Kind of an extreme nitpick. But I mean, Sakurai helmed Uprising and its English voice cast was good. Really good. So, I mean, I guess I can't complain as long as the new voices hired for characters who haven't had them in their own games recently are good. And Ness can pronounce the word "Flash" this time
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Turtlekid1 on July 21, 2014, 04:51:52 PM
To be fair, Lucina has a very good in-story reason to be similar to Marth.

Not that it isn't stupid, but it would be more justified for her than if Chrom ended up being a clone of him.

As far as voice acting goes, KI:U voice actors do have the advantage of a lot more practice in their roles than the ones for Fire Emblem, considering how much fully-voiced dialogue Pit and Palutena get in their game, compared to a sparse handful of voiced cutscenes in Awakening that is vastly outweighed by text boxes.  Which, again, does not excuse shoddy work, but there is a likely reason for it.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on July 21, 2014, 07:47:40 PM
I understand that and I don't think that a different individual character works as an alternate costume, but just... maybe all of the facts that stack up to Lucina being perfectly in-character as a Marth clone also stack up to make her a bad choice for a character. What does she add to the game? It could be argued she doesn't take anything from it, either, but if "two many sword-users" is a concern, maybe she does.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Lizard Dude on July 21, 2014, 10:38:08 PM
I DO disagree that the roster can be oversaturated with an archetype, in a game that allows players to simultaneously use the same character. Saturation wouldn't cause a problem unless your main was Random.

Lucina's purpose is to be a n00b-friendly Marth. For a n00b who likes Marth but doesn't manage his sword sweet spot range, using Lucina can only improve his game. I've seen a fair amount of this exact type of player so I think Lucina's design is smart. (Only problem is the n00b probably won't realize this stuff anyhow.)

And Turtlekid1, I wouldn't call Lucina's in-story reason "very good". She calls herself Marth but her fighting style in-story is a Chrom clone. So it's more like "kinda good if you squint" level.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Toad on July 21, 2014, 10:59:41 PM
There are far too many hero archetypes. Clearly some of them need to be cut.

I've never played a Fire Emblem game, and agree that from a distance, Lucina looks like Marth. But that's also what name labels are for too.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: YoshiAngemon on July 24, 2014, 05:42:29 AM
There appears to be some talk of a new character being revealed during Comic-Con's SSB Tournament. Might be a veteran like Meta Knight, heavily altered to be more legal, because he was deemed illegal to play as in Tournaments. Who knows who it is?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on July 24, 2014, 01:55:45 PM
He got unbanned, I thought--don't know when or why. I never really hear anything about competitive Brawl, only Melee, the occasional Project M, and people's predictions about SSB4's tiers that are far too early to be worth anyone's time.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: YoshiAngemon on July 25, 2014, 04:24:22 AM
An interesting thing: When Wario had his own section on the 3DS eShop, Super Smash Bros. was listed as one of the games he appears in. Shortly after, it got taken off Which may lead us to believe that Wario will be confirmed as a Veteran, this week, and we'll maybe see a newcomer relating to WarioWare, be it Mona, Jimmy T., or Nintendo Fanboy with obligatory NES Zapper weaponized, 9-Volt!

Okay, the 3DS Tournament happened, Twitch was full of trolls, and there was no reveal. The Final Matchup was down to two Bowsers, and the Green one won. Trolls got trolled, and there was less hype than the E3 tournament.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: TheMightyThor on July 26, 2014, 02:02:30 PM
Twitch was full of trolls

Business as usual.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: YoshiAngemon on July 26, 2014, 07:30:53 PM
At least Capcom's Twitch channel doesn't have as much trolls. Besides, I think that this generation in gaming, Gaming is going to the trolls. We get such things as "extend Dong" when Donkey Kong is present, that I end up joining in with "Dong, where is my automobile?" and if those "(INSERT NAME HERE) CONFIRMED" or DECONFIRMED POSTS were all neckties, I could HANG myself with those bad neckties found at the dump! And the REQUESTS NEVER END! "We want Shrek!" "We Want Goku!" "We want the Actual Reggie, instead of his Mii!" There is ONE thing I enjoy most about Super Smash Bros:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mcvq6CfnUI

"Mistletoe. Now, PUCKER UP AND KISS IT, WHOVILLE!"

But other than that, there's only one thing that's been confirmed: "TROLLING CONFIRMED!" And the trolling also goes on at the Sega forums.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on July 26, 2014, 10:39:52 PM
...I.....what...?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: YoshiAngemon on July 27, 2014, 05:55:22 AM
It used to be about playing the game, now it's all about trolling people, and getting big laughs out of it.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on July 27, 2014, 03:16:16 PM
If memes are trolling, and Captain Falcon is still in the game and still in his Smash Bros. form, then, everyone who calls Sakurai a huge troll every day that he doesn't reveal Ridley are right, which means... Ridley confirmed!?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on July 27, 2014, 05:40:57 PM
It used to be about playing the game, now it's all about trolling people, and getting big laughs out of it.

I repeat: ...what...?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: jdaster64 on July 29, 2014, 07:07:13 AM
So, apparently there's a transforming Paper Mario stage in the 3DS version now.  Hoping this is a sign of more representation to come.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on July 29, 2014, 12:58:42 PM
So considering that it has a SS section and a TTYD section, I wonder if it'll have areas based on the original and Super Paper Mario.

Or more TTYD areas would be good.

(If you haven't seen the stage.) (http://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/2c0u57/new_sakurai_picture_0729_pic_of_the_day_for_the/cjasz0n)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on July 29, 2014, 04:14:22 PM
Sakurai is one of us
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: ShadowBrain on July 30, 2014, 01:38:45 AM
I'm liking the Paper Mario acknowledgment very much.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on July 30, 2014, 12:03:44 PM
I'm happo, because I've long thought a Paper Mario stage would be the best way to represent those particular games.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: TheMightyThor on August 01, 2014, 07:19:37 PM
Yoshi, I don't think what you're describing is necessarily "trolling", simply having fun.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: CrossEyed7 on August 11, 2014, 05:31:57 PM
This is trolling. (https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAAYUKlhcJMgZQ)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on August 11, 2014, 05:58:22 PM
perfect for pretending you're pretending you're a nintendo character

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5jMtOJxUKg
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Yoshi_Island on August 14, 2014, 12:53:56 PM
Meta Knight confirmed! :https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAADRUqGOwiANZw (https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAADRUqGOwiANZw)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: CrossEyed7 on August 23, 2014, 05:33:02 PM
If the part about the DLC is true (and cheap or free... hopefully not a $10 Amiibo for each one), I would be pretty much 100% satisfied with this. (http://www.flickeringmyth.com/2014/08/entire-smash-bros-4-roster-possibly-leaked-bowser-jr-shulk.html)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on August 23, 2014, 08:02:24 PM
Music page is up on the site (http://www.smashbros.com/sp/us/music/)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: CrossEyed7 on August 23, 2014, 09:24:55 PM
It's about time a 3DS game with great music and a sound test had a Play in Sleep Mode option.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on August 23, 2014, 10:15:16 PM
But you haven't even played the game yet. How do you know the music is great?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: WarpRattler on August 23, 2014, 10:30:38 PM
It has Yuzo Koshiro, Kenji Ito, Yasunori Mitsuda, Keiichi Okabe, and Shohei Tsuchiya working on it. It'll be a tragedy if the music isn't great.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on August 23, 2014, 11:18:19 PM
It could still happen!
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on August 24, 2014, 12:10:24 AM
Anyone care to remind me why this isn't being released as a Wii U exclusive so as to boost the console's sales? Does Nintendo really consider the Wii U such a lost cause?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: WarpRattler on August 24, 2014, 05:16:33 AM
Japan doesn't do home consoles, and the 3DS version of SSB4 will sell significantly better over there than the Wii U version would regardless of the Wii U's success. WIth the Wii U being unsuccessful, though, it makes even more sense to also release the game on the best-selling platform of the current generation.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: TheMightyThor on August 25, 2014, 01:50:33 PM
Ganondorf, Bowser Jr, and supposedly Shulk were all confirmed via leaked footage. I would link you to the footage, which I saw before it was taken down, for you to decide for yourself whether or not it's fake. There's just one problem...

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FtiDjKTP.jpg&hash=29c373d05f7429490ec3f59b72160b19)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on August 25, 2014, 02:25:48 PM
Well, we now know those are confirmed. But we've yet to see confirmation that Dr. Mario, Dark Pit and that Stupid Dog™ are really in. This leaker was apparently the one behind that Palutena leak last year, and that one actually was fake even though Palutena did indeed make it in. He could be screwing with us, using a mix of real and fake material to throw us off.

I'll be really sad if I don't get a 3rd DK character, though. :'(
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on August 25, 2014, 03:22:05 PM
It's easy to find that footage on YouTube by filtering the search results by upload date, as it gets reposted every few hours.

Uploaded ten minutes ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBTmH-Xh3PU
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on August 25, 2014, 05:04:27 PM
Sakurai should threaten to put Pichu back in to match Dr. Mario if people don't quit asking for Mewtwo
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: CrossEyed7 on August 25, 2014, 05:08:11 PM
I liked Pichu.

http://imgur.com/a/PzeCw

(Content Warning: Somewhat pervy pictures of human and non-human female trophies (supporting the story that this is the ESRB video), spoilers for StreetPass Plaza: Monster Manor and Kid Icarus Uprising.)

Pittoo and Wario are confirmed now.

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.4cdn.org%2Fv%2F1408983406647.png&hash=fde780c89d4180ba57366ae16d988748)

All-Star mode seems to be locked in this picture, which may imply that not all characters were unlocked in the save file used to make the video. The leaker has apparently said they can't confirm whether or not that character select screen shows the full roster. (I would think the ESRB would want to see all the characters, but maybe not? The ESRB is definitely a lot looser than European rating groups where they have to play through the entire game themselves first; ESRB just asks for a video of highlights of the most objectionable stuff.) But it might not mean anything; the footage is all edited together anyway, and also there might be different conditions for unlocking All-Star this time.

There would be room for five more characters on that screen, assuming that Mii Fighters are under the wrench icon (this would make sense, especially considering we never got a "Mii Fighter Faces Off!" newcomer splash screen; Mii isn't a fighter, it's a customization mode).

That original list of DLC characters (Wolf, Snake, Lucas, Ice Climbers, Chorus Men) was confirmed to be made up. There were a couple of leaks before this one that listed Bowser Jr., Shulk, and Duck Hunt Dog along with Dixie, Ridley, Mewtwo, Chorus Men, and Mach Rider, and there's also a rumor about Impa now. (Chorus Men are looking least likely at the moment, taking it down to those five) Also rumors that every character has 8 colors/costumes, and Bowser Jr.'s other seven costumes are the Koopalings. Ice Climbers are looking really doubtful.

If the 48 characters on that CSS are it, I'd be happy. That's already a really good roster. But I'm really hoping for Dixie, Ridley, Impa, and Mach Rider. They make sense -- Dixie and Impa have been in lots of games in their serieses, including recent ones, Ridley should have already been in, Mach Rider has gotten a decent amount of acknowledgement in past Smashes, and would also help make up for losing Ice Climbers. Dixie and Impa could be modified clones of Diddy and Sheik, and together with Mach Rider (Snake clone? Wario clone? Would she be on her bike the whole time, or would they make up an on-foot moveset for her like they did with Captain Falcon?), the three of them would go a long way toward tipping the gender balance of the roster. As for Ridley, we've been left with just enough room for hope for months now. I don't think Sakurai would do that all the way up to less than three weeks before release if he wasn't in. The closest he's done to that was the Greninja trailer where he kinda looked like Mewtwo at first, and that only left us hanging for a few seconds, with the reveal being "You thought that character was playable... but instead it's this cool new one!" With Ridley, it would be months of buildup for a reveal of "You thought that character might be playable... Nope!" They've always been very clear about when a character's not playable, but with Ridley, all we've gotten are two times where he was indirectly implied not to be, without even using his name (and the animation on that Ridley shadow always looked more like a player-controlled character than a preprogrammed boss character to me anyway).
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on August 25, 2014, 05:51:55 PM
I've been saying the same thing about Ridley.

Also, you assume Sakurai even remembers that Mach Rider was revealed to be a woman in Vs. Mach Rider (is what what that screen is supposed to be?)

Also also, if Dixie doesn't get in at this point, then it means DK got shafted big time. And that makes me really sad. :'(
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: CrossEyed7 on August 25, 2014, 06:07:04 PM
NeoGAF poster claims leaker was an NOA employee who was supposed to be sending the DVD to the ESRB, and he has already been fired and sued, but allegedly still has a copy of the game. (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=127040606&postcount=16458)

Incidentally, here's the ESRB guidelines:

Quote from: ESRB
Along with the written submission materials, publishers must provide a DVD that captures all pertinent content. This includes typical gameplay, missions, and cutscenes, along with the most extreme instances of content across all relevant categories including but not limited to violence, language, sex, controlled substances and gambling. Pertinent content that is not playable (i.e., "locked out") but will exist in the game code on the final game disc must also be disclosed.

The "locked out" part apparently refers to stuff like Hot Coffee, not unlockable content. So it's possible that there are more unlockable characters than we've seen in the leaks, and as long as they're not characters who gamble, do drugs, have attacks with realistic gore, or dress sexier than Tharja, they didn't need to be included in the ESRB DVD.

Quote from: ESRB
Once the submission is checked by ESRB for completeness, which may also involve ESRB staff members playing a beta or alpha version of the game, the video footage is reviewed by at least three specially trained game raters. ESRB raters must be adults and typically have experience with children, whether through prior work experience, education or through being parents or caregivers themselves.

When the game is ready for release to the public, publishers send copies of the final product to the ESRB. The game packaging is reviewed to make sure the rating information is displayed accurately and in accordance with ESRB requirements. Additionally, ESRB staff, including raters (time permitting), play-test the final version of a variety of games - including but not limited to games which generate consumer inquiries to ESRB and those which receive broad consumer exposure - to verify that all the materials provided by the games' publishers during the rating process were accurate and complete.

The ESRB does sometimes playtest the actual final version of the game a little bit, but it's not a requirement.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: CrossEyed7 on August 25, 2014, 06:25:02 PM
POTD posted early tonight (http://i.imgur.com/dQ43kA2.jpg) (language!)




(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bv5r3H9IQAAkv72.jpg)



Mother 1 acknowledgement, as well as referring to the series as "the Mother series":

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FF3tIjDM.jpg&hash=f4291272d4791b39c9338363e89dfc8d)

Interestingly, it uses a literal translation of the enemy's Japanese name, rather than the censored localized name, Psycho Car, from the English build of the game. (the Devil mention is probably why it's in the ESRB video. You'd think then they'd also have something where Ganondorf is called the Demon King, or a trophy of Demise, or the devil from Devil World who's confirmed as an Assist Trophy, but it's probably enough to just tell the ESRB "Hey, there's some mentions of devils in here; here's a representative sampling of them.")
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on August 25, 2014, 06:33:26 PM
Hey, Bluster's something. :P
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: CrossEyed7 on August 25, 2014, 06:54:22 PM
I really hope Bowser Jr. and the Koopaling alts get confirmed in a video that opens with just the audio of the announcer saying "THIS GAME'S WINNER IS... ROY!" and then fades in to show Roy in the clown car.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on August 25, 2014, 07:01:04 PM
I really really doubt they will be. Lucina and Marth are on that side of the line, where they may as well be the same thing in practice but are not and cannot be the same entity. On the very other side of the line are Wii Fit Trainer, Robin and Villager being male or female, and doesn't change who or what they are. Which is an interesting thing that only video games can really do without simply making it ambiguous, up until a sequel has to decide what pokémon Red has, that he defeated Giovanni and Leaf did not, and that his name is Red.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: CrossEyed7 on August 25, 2014, 08:09:52 PM
I also hope this is an alternate costume for Shulk

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv297%2Fbebpo%2Fxenoarmor20.jpg&hash=bc64e8e76898fea16a8f8c53385e2284)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: jdaster64 on August 25, 2014, 09:24:06 PM
I really really doubt they will be.
For what it's worth, there is a trophy of Larry in the Koopa Clown Car in the leak album.  Personally, I'm liking that MOTHER 1 gets some acknowledgement, even if Lucas apparently isn't returning.  Doctor Mario (Tornadoes forever), Duck Hunt and Bowser Jr. have me psyched, at least, in addition to those revealed already.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: CrossEyed7 on August 25, 2014, 09:34:12 PM
Yeah, I'm pretty excited for Dr. Mario, assuming that his Down B isn't a FLUDD made of syringes (actually, now that I say it, that would be kinda cool).
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on August 25, 2014, 09:36:01 PM
I guess I'm the only one who is sad. ._.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: CrossEyed7 on August 25, 2014, 11:11:06 PM
Dixie and Ridley and the rest still have a good chance. If that CSS is the full roster, why is it an incomplete 6 x 9 grid? If there's only 48 characters, a 6 x 8 grid would fit them all (7 x 7 with a Random slot, 5 x 10 with two Random slots or a Random slot and a Mii slot).

I am gonna be a bit disappointed when there's no Baten Kaitos representation.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Toad on August 25, 2014, 11:21:22 PM
I just want playable Toad. While I've never been a huge fan of Bowser Jr's, he's grown on me in recent years, and his having alternate colors to look like his siblings would be awesome.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on August 25, 2014, 11:32:07 PM
...People remember Baten Kaitos?

.....Bowser Jr. has siblings?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: CrossEyed7 on August 25, 2014, 11:38:35 PM
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-eUbR2nFZnm0/U_wcjBP1P8I/AAAAAAAAGkc/ZeVEqJLsYXA/w1026-h577-no/WIN_20140826_013326.JPG)

...People are still doing the screaming while holding entertainment media thing?



(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FkY2BoWg.jpg&hash=df1b0a24ef4c554aa6f6701c5c83132d)

This seems like decent evidence for Koopalings as alternate costumes for Bowser Jr. The Koopalings have only ever had the big communal Clown Car in NSMB2, never individual ones, so it wouldn't make much sense to have trophies of them. Lemmy did have a Clown Mech in Yoshi's Safari, but that's the closest they've ever come.

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mariowiki.com%2Fimages%2Fb%2Fb3%2FLemmySafari.png&hash=ca173fc07c4c104dbdb5819411cd1714)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on August 26, 2014, 12:27:45 AM
I guess I can sort of take the Koopalings riding a tricked out Clown Car as a sort of semi-reference to Yoshi's Safari...
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Toad on August 26, 2014, 07:42:25 AM
.. People remember Yoshi's Safari?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: CrossEyed7 on August 26, 2014, 07:49:01 AM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F38.media.tumblr.com%2Fccd46ec18b04018aa2ed12ae826365e4%2Ftumblr_naw3zi1wZU1qalc4ro1_500.jpg&hash=afb32b1782adb1c826334ef7280e69fb)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Turtlekid1 on August 26, 2014, 08:44:48 AM
Am I the only one who thinks Ridley, an unworkably massive character with the ability to fly, would be a monumentally bad idea for SSB inclusion as anything other than an Assist Trophy?  And I want more Metroid representation, I really do, but I'm pretty sure there's no good way to do playable Ridley.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on August 26, 2014, 01:15:27 PM
Between those unlockable costume items and someone providing me with this Edea, I'm actually excited for the Mii Fighters. [darn] me.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: TheMightyThor on August 26, 2014, 06:55:37 PM
Am I the only one who thinks Ridley, an unworkably massive character with the ability to fly, would be a monumentally bad idea for SSB inclusion as anything other than an Assist Trophy?  And I want more Metroid representation, I really do, but I'm pretty sure there's no good way to do playable Ridley.

J-just you wait, this one leaker guy totally said Ridley's getting in! It totally makes sense, s-stop shilling for Sakurai!

;_;
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: CrossEyed7 on August 26, 2014, 10:04:21 PM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg2.wikia.nocookie.net%2F__cb20140409183317%2Fssb%2Fimages%2Fd%2Fd4%2FWiiU_SuperSmashBros_Stage10_Screen_02.jpg&hash=d6f225ec41da00c74d6adef50184be42)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on August 26, 2014, 10:06:44 PM
Does Final Destination have cancer?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: WarpRattler on August 29, 2014, 05:12:44 AM
Hey CrossEyed7, good news:

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.smashbros.com%2Fimages%2Fcharacter%2Fshulk%2Fscreen-8.jpg&hash=5e98bbf0328acc3d6ae3d70f3f0888a2)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: CrossEyed7 on August 29, 2014, 09:15:56 AM
Zero Suit Shulk is the best thing to happen to Smash in a long time. Pit and Link are gonna have some competition now.

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.smashbros.com%2Fimages%2Fcharacter%2Fshulk%2Fscreen-7.jpg&hash=e3c2b47d0df408d003014db9ec4dbb97)

Final Smash looks pretty cool. It's not just going to be Dunban and Riki, though, is it? They've gotta have Reyn in there, right?



Also, I just realized they actually told us about Pittoo a while ago (http://youtu.be/ZQBxNBNj3t8?t=2m44s).
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Jman on August 29, 2014, 11:31:57 AM
I'm looking forward to having Smash on the go. 
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: CrossEyed7 on August 30, 2014, 06:21:49 PM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.nintendolife.com%2Fnews%2F2014%2F08%2Fgallery_its_time_for_a_shulk_super_smash_bros_blowout%2Fattachment%2F13%2Foriginal.jpg&hash=b05de5560c51c07e0e4c1c8b379f3997)

We should get some more alternate costumes to go along with this one:

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.servimg.com%2Fu%2Ff60%2F13%2F80%2F79%2F85%2Fthe-le10.jpg&hash=afadccc7520673a2619336247eb0b71f)

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg3.wikia.nocookie.net%2F__cb20121102040233%2Ffireemblem%2Fimages%2F0%2F0d%2FChrom_Beach_DLC.png&hash=c6beb8a04cc407a2bf920d3c435ee4a1)
(he's in Robin's Final Smash)

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FcdnR6m3.png&hash=370f3fa2291b2e58563390eb637147a5)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: YoshiAngemon on August 31, 2014, 06:53:28 AM
I think you guys may have been reading the posts at the SEGA forums! In fact, when I tried explaining who Mega Man is, they just change it to reflect Astro Boy! We get it! This world is BUILT on plagiarism. If we didn't have Astro Boy, we wouldn't have Mega Man! Without Kimba the White Lion, there'd be no The Lion King! If not for The Simpsons, no Family Guy. Clutch Cargo, Annoying Orange! Sonic the Hedgehog, Rainbow Dash! Strong Bad Email, Ask Orange! Everyone plagiarizes everyone! AND NO COPYRIGHT LAW IN THE UNIVERSE IS GONNA STOP THEM ALL!
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on August 31, 2014, 08:42:18 AM
........whaaaa?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: CrossEyed7 on August 31, 2014, 11:33:04 AM
I'm looking forward to the dating sim elements.

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mariowiki.com%2Fimages%2Fa%2Faa%2FWiiU_SmashBros_scrnC05_06_E3.png&hash=d4e7ccc454870cfda6801431217db9c9)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on August 31, 2014, 03:24:13 PM
Rush is a girl?! :O
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on August 31, 2014, 07:40:09 PM
The Goofy-Pluto Paradox for a new generation.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on August 31, 2014, 09:05:00 PM
does the dating sim work with luigi x mii fighter

im asking for a friend
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on August 31, 2014, 09:51:50 PM
I still score nightly dates with Master Hand.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on August 31, 2014, 10:28:47 PM
...Master Hand is a girl?! :O
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Toad on August 31, 2014, 11:57:56 PM
Crazy Hand is clearly a female. All females are crazy.

Just a little joke there
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on September 01, 2014, 11:22:23 AM
OPPRESSIVE WHITE CIS MALE SCUM!
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on September 01, 2014, 04:40:59 PM
...Master Hand is a girl?! :O

I like to pretend.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Captain Jim on September 02, 2014, 08:22:32 AM
I can't even believe this shocking news

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FUtwHjZ0.jpg&hash=e5bb41a089066fb57ad06ba464a3b4b5)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on September 02, 2014, 12:37:50 PM
Thai beer on tap? Hot [darn]!
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Jman on September 05, 2014, 10:12:10 PM
EWE?  Is that a new wrestling federation?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Captain Jim on September 07, 2014, 05:11:44 AM
Sorta spoliery image from the demo in Japan right now, regarding some colors/costumes (http://i.imgur.com/u4XkvnM.jpg)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: jdaster64 on September 07, 2014, 10:42:48 AM
Those are pretty interesting, I imagine people are hyped about the second.

Another costume (https://31.media.tumblr.com/ef9e7f12b4741d9ef9c6a3dd8ee572e2/tumblr_nbiu4dxMmu1qfyz1jo1_1280.jpg), from the same guy.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on September 07, 2014, 04:44:50 PM
So Fox has Wolf colors and Pit has Dark Pit (?) colors even though Dark Pit is supposedly his own character...hmm...
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Captain Jim on September 07, 2014, 07:21:01 PM
That ain't no Dark Pit color. Pittoo ain't purple. The eyes and laurel are also the wrong color.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on September 07, 2014, 09:44:36 PM
Then I guess it's Pit's replacement black palette. If Dark Pit is really in this, then I wonder what his palettes look like...
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: CrossEyed7 on September 07, 2014, 10:13:52 PM
At least we know that alt costumes that are different characters don't get called by the original character's name. That would have been weird for the Koopalings. Also maybe a chance of Lucas at least being a Ness alt?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on September 07, 2014, 11:11:17 PM
That would be really sad, though. Pretty much all of Lucas's regular and Smash attacks were completely different from Ness'. Reducing him to an alt would be a major loss. It also wouldn't be fair given that Dr. Mario, Dark Pit and Lucina apparently got in.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Toad on September 07, 2014, 11:19:38 PM
We don't know anything for sure until the game is out.

Toad didn't use spoiler text!


C-C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on September 07, 2014, 11:30:09 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oswp_wjLA8

Buffed again? Does Sakurai even know what "balance" is? smh
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on September 08, 2014, 02:38:08 PM
https://twitter.com/nintendoamerica/status/509023406592122881
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: 4 Game Freak on September 10, 2014, 04:59:59 AM
So, how do you guys feel about the Mario-related content in these Games so far?

Personally, I don't really like it. Mario & Luigi don't really act like Mario & Luigi, hate the idea of Peach using a Toad as a Meat Shield, Bowser isn't voiced by Kenny James, & No return of Princess Peach's Castle? What Gives?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on September 10, 2014, 06:26:28 AM
Pffff, in this particular game there's entirely too much Mario content. "Nintendo All-Stars" my left toe.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Captain Jim on September 10, 2014, 12:22:37 PM
Get your fix for taunts and colors (http://imgur.com/a/vtRyf)

Things of note: Lucina's FE:A Ladies colors, Palutena pole dancing taunt
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on September 10, 2014, 04:51:20 PM
Not the kind of fanservice I was expecting. :P
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: CrossEyed7 on September 10, 2014, 07:15:41 PM
No Outset Link or Ms. Pac-Man; this game sucks.

Lucina being separate from the other Fire Emblem characters in this one (http://i.imgur.com/tMgihBd.jpg) is more confirmation of the leak, in case anyone needed it.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on September 10, 2014, 07:26:05 PM
Well then it looks like there's no Dixie Kong or King K. Rool, so this game sucks even harder. :P
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: CrossEyed7 on September 10, 2014, 07:48:10 PM
(https://38.media.tumblr.com/5c9974a2a0ef2c8b8705c87e5771e6dc/tumblr_nbpcomsYX81tsdohno1_500.png)

Anime Luigi is confirmed, though.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: 4 Game Freak on September 10, 2014, 10:15:14 PM
Pffff, in this particular game there's entirely too much Mario content. "Nintendo All-Stars" my left toe.
Compared to Kid Icarus: Uprising?

Well, how do you feel about the way the Mario Cast is treated in these game so far?

I still hate it because Mario doesn't act like Mario. For one thing, he never smiles!
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on September 11, 2014, 12:14:39 AM
That's.....still not as bad as having like 587 Mario characters on the roster and 432 Mario stages on the stage select.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: 4 Game Freak on September 11, 2014, 02:27:05 AM
That's.....still not as bad as having like 587 Mario characters on the roster and 432 Mario stages on the stage select.
And as a Mario fan, you're not happy?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on September 11, 2014, 04:04:06 AM
He agrees with you.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: CrossEyed7 on September 11, 2014, 07:28:30 AM
Some people got the game early. No characters we didn't already know about from the leak yet.

Duck Hunt Dog's Final Smash is not what I was expecting. And I'm kinda surprised the ESRB didn't need to see it.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on September 11, 2014, 11:19:43 AM
I have to admit, even though he's another unnecessary Mario character, Bowser Jr. might be my favorite of all the leaked characters. And the Koopaling alts are a nice treat.

So far none of the streamers have figured out how to unlock ROB.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on September 11, 2014, 01:48:43 PM
One did by playing 70 matches. So it's official, no Solid Ridleytwo
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on September 11, 2014, 02:08:47 PM
It's official:

- Lucas is gone.
- Wolf is gone.
- Ice Climbers are gone.
- Snake is gone.
- Dixie didn't make it.
- K. Rool didn't make it.
- Ridley didn't make it.
- Mewtwo didn't make it.
- Anybody else that anybody wanted didn't make it.


"Ultimate character game"? You're such a kidder, Sakurai. -_-
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Toad on September 11, 2014, 02:41:22 PM
Well, there's always possible DLC right? Some who were cut could become DLC characters.

Still no playable Toad.. Duck Hunt Dog and Wii Fit Trainer are probably my least favorites this round, but at least Duck Hunt Dog is from a game.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on September 11, 2014, 02:56:44 PM
They've yet to even announce that this game will have DLC. Don't be surprised if they don't.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on September 11, 2014, 04:01:22 PM
muh genos

muh metwos

muh royce

muh daisys

muh foffles

muh riddlers

muh darksamus

muh girahims

muh crystals

muh bananadees

muh tales

muh shadows

muh soras

muh clouds

muh dixys

muh krools
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on September 11, 2014, 04:22:37 PM
Duck Hunt Dog seems like a much better addition knowing he's inspired by all of Nintendo's Light Gun games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7r16HoG92hs


EDIT: Which Koopaling does everyone plan on using?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Captain Jim on September 11, 2014, 11:26:11 PM
I'm planning on usin' Bowser Jr. a ton. I mean, him, not any of the Koopaling alts. In regards to your question.

Lovin' his moveset a lot, and I've liked Jr. himself a lot for a while, so I'm thrilled as to his inclusion.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on September 12, 2014, 07:34:34 AM
Well, Iggy and Morton are my favorites, so them I guess. Assuming I get the game. I'm on the fence about it, honestly.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Lizard Dude on September 12, 2014, 10:01:07 AM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FasPYUSq.jpg&hash=038caf6064f24ac8845b8ce68e00d3f1)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on September 12, 2014, 10:08:56 AM
Basically. :'(
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on September 12, 2014, 02:25:16 PM
Apparently US demo codes have been delivered to some Club Nintendo members by email. You get 4 if you if you get them.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on September 12, 2014, 03:34:05 PM
They're only sending it to members who opted in for spam emails from Nintendo prior to distribution. Opting in now won't make you eligible.

Someone should tell Nintendo that people have been exchanging their demo codes for indecent photos from minors. Maybe that will discourage them from doing another selective distro via junk email.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on September 12, 2014, 03:37:16 PM
With text next to the box that tells you that you won't be excluded from any events like this.

Edit: If you look around other places, especially forums, there's people giving demos out everywhere.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: CrossEyed7 on September 12, 2014, 04:43:03 PM
I'm opted in to get emails, but it's been a month and a half since I've gotten any. Did it get messed up somehow, or were there just not a lot of games to promote in August?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on September 12, 2014, 05:09:51 PM
I heard you can contact Nintendo support if you didn't get any.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on September 12, 2014, 05:25:48 PM
Demo codes are selling for $20 each on eBay, by the way.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: CrossEyed7 on September 12, 2014, 08:17:31 PM
I heard you can contact Nintendo support if you didn't get any.
I got an automated response saying I probably didn't qualify for it (I did) and that if I think I did (I did) I can call them.

There are 522 codes up for auction at the time I'm writing this, and on 59 of them, the auction ends on Friday -- the day the public demo comes out and the early access codes expire.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on September 12, 2014, 08:25:15 PM
Yeah, I also got ROB. I'm not sure if I did anyway, so I won't bother for now.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on September 12, 2014, 08:34:44 PM
Someone made a "post ending in [X] gets the code" thread.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: CrossEyed7 on September 12, 2014, 09:32:35 PM
(https://38.media.tumblr.com/6571066a67867dac7959a9834f698715/tumblr_nbt1pwnah11r9s07oo1_500.png)

Apparently you can't look up Peach's skirt anymore.

Only Mario is allowed to do that now.

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Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on September 12, 2014, 10:24:07 PM
So Rosalina's not the only one with a black hole under her dress.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on September 12, 2014, 11:47:29 PM
Playing the demo. It's nice. I feel like there would be more of a point if one or two more new characters were playable (Greninjaaaaaa, alternately, Maaaaaaac). I won't make a list of observations about changes because you could go and find those anywhere.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: CrossEyed7 on September 13, 2014, 11:46:00 AM
I called them and the guy was really nice and said I should get the email later today and I'm just kind of proud of myself right now for successfully doing a phone call.

Also they had Hyrule Field as the hold music.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on September 13, 2014, 01:10:21 PM
"A05V" is probably going to haunt me for the rest of my life from now on.

But the demo is great. Definitely worth refreshing all the code giveaway threads for hours.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on September 13, 2014, 01:31:16 PM
If anything, I want it as a digital collector's item of sorts as it has unlimited uses.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: TheMightyThor on September 13, 2014, 03:49:12 PM
I DIDN'T KNOW THE DEMO WAS FOR SHARING SO I NEVER ASKED AROUND FOR ONE
NOW THERE AREN'T ANY LEFT AND I DOUBT I'LL GET ONE FROM ANY CODE GIVEAWAY THREAD
;_;
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on September 13, 2014, 04:19:26 PM
We're so pathetic.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on September 14, 2014, 08:44:55 PM
Man, that filter is ugly.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: CrossEyed7 on September 15, 2014, 01:38:29 PM
So I called again because I still haven't gotten my email, and they said I should be getting it within 5 to 7 business days. Yay.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on September 15, 2014, 02:45:06 PM
At least they tried.

By the way, suprisingly, some people are still giving out codes for free in these Reddit threads if you dig through the desperate copy pasted begging.

http://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/2g7ruo/demo_codes_giveaway_thread/
http://www.reddit.com/r/3DS/comments/2g7zgx/the_unofficial_ssb4_demo_code_giveaway_thread/
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on September 15, 2014, 03:59:37 PM
I finally got a code through... means I'd rather not discuss.

I don't think I'll ever get used to the jump button being on the left rather than the right. After about five hours, I'm still falling to my death after hitting the attack button when I mean to double-jump.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Captain Jim on September 15, 2014, 05:18:13 PM
I finally got a code through... means I'd rather not discuss.

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I agree about the jump button though, it took me quite a bit to get used to. What's really screwin' me up though is lack of a c-stick. New 3DS when?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on September 15, 2014, 08:09:53 PM
Smash carefully, everyone. (http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2014/09/super_smash_bros_for_nintendo_3ds_brings_circle_pad_doom_in_japan)

It'd be neat if you could repurpose the D-pad to perform smashes rather than taunts.

I'm starting to get the hang of jumping with Y, but keep forgetting the B button exists.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on September 15, 2014, 11:17:16 PM
My problem is that ever since the GameCube put Z under the right finger, L has been my Defensive Maneuvers button. On the occasions I've used Remote + Nunchuk, down on the D-Pad is my B, B is my grab, Z is my shield. I'm really used to the diamond button layout now because I use my Classic Controller to play Project M on my Wii U, and Y for specials and B for normals is what makes sense there. Having no control options in the demo is a bummerino, but, I get it. It's the demo...

One other thing I can't complain about but will anyway: Pikachu, in the demo. Pikachu is the Italian food of Smash Bros. Yeah he's really great this time around and there are little differences, but really nothing to surprise you, you know? Nobody changes less than Pikachu from game to game.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Toad on September 16, 2014, 11:40:36 AM
Kirby hasn't changed at all. An orb can only be so round.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on September 16, 2014, 04:51:39 PM
Mega Man's a mega letdown. None of his moves seem capable of KOing an opponent at less than 150% damage. His aerial Down+A is pretty impressive, though.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: TheMightyThor on September 16, 2014, 05:14:10 PM
I finally got a code through... means I'd rather not discuss.

I don't think I'll ever get used to the jump button being on the left rather than the right. After about five hours, I'm still falling to my death after hitting the attack button when I mean to double-jump.

Who'd you blow? Tell em I hope they've got one more code...
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Turtlekid1 on September 16, 2014, 06:21:08 PM
Mega Man's a mega letdown. None of his moves seem capable of KOing an opponent at less than 150% damage. His aerial Down+A is pretty impressive, though.
Charge his Smash attack.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on September 16, 2014, 08:37:38 PM
Just make sure your opponent isn't Villager.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Ninjap00 on September 17, 2014, 07:37:28 PM
A05Vcodepleasethx
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: TheMightyThor on September 17, 2014, 09:36:25 PM
I got a code at almost 12AM.

Guess I'll be tired at school tomorrow...
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on September 18, 2014, 09:07:40 PM
I have an extra code, not sure if it's used though or even if it'll be valid by the time someone claims it.

A05VDWP823JAXENF
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: CrossEyed7 on September 18, 2014, 09:22:10 PM
A05UV6GY1DMFM3JJ
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Bigluigifan1.0 on September 18, 2014, 09:23:28 PM
bobbysq1337: I showed the code for my brother so that we can play the demo together; thanks!
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BriGuy92 on September 18, 2014, 11:12:29 PM
I used CrossEyed7's code. Kinda pointless now, but whatever.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on September 19, 2014, 12:07:57 PM
It has the distinction of being good for unlimited plays, in the case you're the type to play in many short jaunts.

Really wish Villager had a reliable meteor move. His aerial Down+A does it on occasion, but it's hardly worth the risk of following opponents off-stage.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Ninjap00 on September 19, 2014, 09:58:23 PM
Mega Man isn't too great overall, I think, but I love that he's pretty much all projectiles. His up air and side smashes are so dang useful.
<3 rockman

Mario really feels like he's a lot better now. I never really liked playing him in smash before but he feels really good now and I'm not sure why, considering he seems very similar to how he was in Brawl.

EDIT: Not a necessarily a huge surprise or anything, but I noticed that there is definitely antialiasing (looks like 2x, but it doesn't look like it's post-processing AA so that's nice) and texture filtering (trilinear? I doubt it's anisotropic on the 3DS) which gets turned off (AA) or down (texture filter--to bilinear?) when 3D is turned on. im a nerd who pays attention to gfx and spends 50 hrs playing with every setting in video games so this is interesting
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on September 25, 2014, 10:51:51 PM
All Mii outfits:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W6bNdhMcEU

All but about ten hats:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uu0QRWQP7Q
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on September 28, 2014, 11:31:41 AM
So people really like their GC controllers. (https://github.com/dekuNukem/gc3ds)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Toad on September 28, 2014, 03:05:59 PM
I am in agreement: I would pay money for one of those things, and would be more excited for SSB4 on 3DS.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on October 01, 2014, 10:21:00 PM
24 more hours. I'd cosplay at a midnight launch if EB Games did those and if my Villager shirt had arrived in the mail by now and if I weren't too self-conscious to wear it.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on October 01, 2014, 11:57:00 PM
Do you have the rest of it? Don't be ashamed of it! At least go in the pink wig!
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on October 02, 2014, 01:10:02 PM
Couldn't find the right pair of bloomers.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Ninjap00 on October 02, 2014, 10:39:11 PM
download just finished, i'm really feeling it

i'm sick and feel crappy but the hype flows through me
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on October 02, 2014, 11:00:50 PM
Well, have fun.

Picking it up tomorrow morning.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BriGuy92 on October 04, 2014, 12:50:59 AM
I went straight to Best Buy after work and picked up the game and the preorder coin. Then I played until my thumbs would not allow me to play any longer.

Palutena best girl.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on October 05, 2014, 02:42:25 AM
That's a funny way of spelling female Villager.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on October 08, 2014, 06:56:25 PM
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Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Lizard Dude on October 08, 2014, 07:35:24 PM
I've always seen that gif in the context of Dark Souls, but in hindsight it does fit Smash better.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on October 09, 2014, 02:38:36 PM
Smash Run is awful. It's as though Sakurai took all the worst elements from Kirby Air Ride's City Trial and threw in  disproportionate number of Kid Icarus: Uprising enemies. Most of the time you're given no indication of what kind of challenge to prepare for, and the rewards are meager compared to Classic.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on October 09, 2014, 03:25:30 PM
The worst elements from Kirby Air Ride's City Trial? You mean the Dragoon and the Hydra?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Turtlekid1 on October 11, 2014, 12:53:40 AM
Smash Run is acceptable.  Not brain-meltingly fun with just CPUs, but acceptable.

I think pretty much the only problems that I have with this game at present are the terrible online and the fact that a Trophy has officially retconned Samus' Gravity Suit into a DBZ aura.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on October 11, 2014, 01:32:53 AM
Hey now, Smash Bros. doesn't officially anything. Blame Other M for everything it deserves.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Turtlekid1 on October 11, 2014, 08:22:47 PM
I guess I should be thankful it's giving Mega Man and Samus all the love that Capcom and Nintendo won't.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on October 13, 2014, 06:42:03 PM
"Ah, yes. I've gotten many complaints about Ganondorf. Why doesn't he use his sword more? Why isn't he as powerful as he is in Zelda? Well, when I decided to add him in Super Smash Brothers, of course he was a late addition included only because his physical appearance was easy enough to model swap over Captain Falcon. So I couldn't do as much justice as I wanted with him, but I worried people would be upset if I left out such an important and striking character.

Ganondorf is somewhat of a contradiction---in Smash Brothers, he's both powerful, yet sometimes comes across as a little worn down, a little tired. In a way, he was greatly influenced by my late father who passed away shortly beforehand. As a child, I viewed my father as a strict-disciplinarian, a man I both feared and respected. But when I grew up, I realized my father, that man I was saw as a powerful figure---a king---was often out of breath, and limped along. I wondered why I feared him so much? And in a way, that's how I've developed Ganondorf as a character. Personally I'm quite close to the character, and thus I find it difficult to bring myself to change him too much."

-Sakurai in a Famitsu interview
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on October 14, 2014, 06:44:19 PM
I can imagine Sakurai beating the stuffing out of Ganondorf with every character in Training mode.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on October 20, 2014, 06:53:41 AM
Wii U direct confirmed, your transfer hype train is leaving soon (http://instagram.com/p/uXvmBRsY-r/)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on October 22, 2014, 03:27:28 PM
WHO COULD IT BE?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on October 22, 2014, 05:28:46 PM
It must be Bayou Billy.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on October 22, 2014, 06:22:53 PM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FlmCqGuH.png&hash=65cd391d3f39d0ce2b157ddcb28e899d)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on October 22, 2014, 09:04:46 PM
Are those Ridley's censored genitals beneath him?

Anyway,
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: TheMightyThor on October 23, 2014, 05:33:33 PM
That might be the most hype direct I've ever seen. Like, ever.

Five players
NO, SIX PLAYERS
NO, EIGHT PLAYERS!
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on October 23, 2014, 10:00:22 PM
You know....maybe there's justice after all.

Poor Ridley fans, though. It looks an awful lot like he was going to be playable and then...wasn't. For some reason.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: CrossEyed7 on October 23, 2014, 11:43:32 PM
They did incorporate him in a pretty cool way, though. And they didn't deconfirm him in as dick a way as they could have -- imagine if Ridley with "2P" above his head had been a POTD, or if we'd seen a blurry screenshot somewhere of a results screen with a Ridley KO.

Still, if they weren't going to make Ridley playable, Dark Samus should've gotten in. Metroid deserves another rep, and she's got about half a moveset already as an AT. Although I'm thinking now that maybe they think that Zero Suit Samus and Sheik kinda count as new characters (it's the closest I can come up with to an explanation for the trophy quizzes).

I hope Mewtwo isn't the only DLC character (and i'm a little surprised they didn't announce the stage DLC, considering that's been basically confirmed by rom dumpers). I mean, obviously a Smash fighter is going to take a lot more development time than Cat Peach, but still.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on October 23, 2014, 11:50:37 PM
I want to believe Mewtwo gives Dixie or K. Rool a shot (and Wolf and Lucas while we're at it), but I'm afraid to get back on the hype train.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: CrossEyed7 on October 24, 2014, 10:16:33 AM
Isaac probably has a decent chance. His Assist Trophy was cut in the 3DS version, and it wouldn't make any sense for him to be in the Wii U version and not the 3DS version, because all of his games were handheld. And there was a Golden Sun game that came out between Brawl and today (which I still need to go back and play), so he's still relevant.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Turtlekid1 on October 24, 2014, 10:48:34 AM
it wouldn't make any sense for him to be in the Wii U version and not the 3DS version, because all of his games were handheld
Keep in mind, though, that this is the same company that is putting a bunch of their handheld titles only on their home console eShop.  I'm not really expecting 'em to make logical sense.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: CrossEyed7 on October 24, 2014, 12:29:02 PM
A home console whose controller is a handheld console.

That reminds me, the Super Famicom-colored buttons on the New 3DS better mean it's getting SNES VC.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on October 24, 2014, 09:09:27 PM
I'm most excited for the stage creator. Freehand platform creation makes for near-boundless possibilities.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on October 25, 2014, 08:52:52 AM
I was really hoping they'd have thought to let you use the Omega Mode skyboxes for custom stages. I would probably take Omega Mode over a large number of generic nowhere stages with different platform arrangements if given the choice... but I'd take Brawl's block-based stage builder with Omega Mode's backgrounds over either.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on October 25, 2014, 06:26:18 PM
So, it's more or less confirmed that Princess Peach's father is a Smurf.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: TheMightyThor on October 26, 2014, 01:28:56 PM
I was really hoping they'd have thought to let you use the Omega Mode skyboxes for custom stages.
That would be so, so awesome.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: n64forever on November 13, 2014, 01:31:46 AM
OK--so I've got a pal with a Wii U who's literally counting down the days to this game, and he's told me bits and pieces of what's going to be in it, who's going to be a character, and how many players can play.

I just have one sort of statement to make--is there such a thing as too many characters?

I have the original N64 game, which has 12 different guys in it (well, 11 guys and a girl). That seemed like a decent amount (although I would have rather had Peach than Jiggly Puff and maybe Zelda or Bowser in place of Ness). There seemed to be too many in the Game Cube Melee version, but I did appreciate the wider variety (even though I was like "who are these Marth and Roy guys?" until looking them up on some game site 13 years back...it may have even been this one). With Brawl on the Wii, it's like you took every Disney character from every movie they made in their first 30 years and stuck them all together--there's too many for their own good.

I'm not against variety, but isn't it getting to be a bit too much? Especially when we have a lot of redundancy--Mario and Dr. Mario, three different Links, etc.

What will we have next--red-haired Peach from the original SMB 1, with the red hair somehow giving her a different set of abilities?

I personally think we should cap the character count at 16 (and 12 for Mario Kart, which I'd prefer less in only because you can't race 16 at once--or maybe you can in the new one; I've only played the Wii U version once).
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on November 13, 2014, 05:36:31 AM
Someone doesn't know how fighting games tend to work.

Also, nobody in the US knew who Marth and Roy were. Kinda hard to know who someone is when they come from a series of games that haven't yet been released on your side of the world.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Turtlekid1 on November 13, 2014, 11:12:26 AM
At least other people argue against too many characters for the sake of competitive balance.  This guy apparently just wants to be able to play as only the protagonists from only the most popular Nintendo titles, and wants the same constraints for everyone else.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on November 13, 2014, 02:25:19 PM
Balance among a huge number of characters is possible. Project M has 42 and even the worst ones aren't considered bad, really, just not quite as good as the top. With how unexplored it is, who knows what the real best and worst characters are... I can't say anything specific that will last, though, because 3.5 launches tomorrow and everyone's getting tweaks. I am excited, even though Lucas is probably getting stabbed with the Nerf Knife a few times.

A good number of Melee's characters are viable at top-level play, and the current official tier list is arranged to reflect that--eight characters are considered top, and the six afterward are considered to be pretty good. That's more than half of the roster, which is quite good considering that everything good about Melee from its gameplay to its balance was probably an accident. Brawl, it's hard to really know anything about other than that Meta Knight is far far far above the next-best. Because nobody talks about Brawl.


three different Links, etc.
That's not a thing that's happening. And I don't want to hear a word suggesting Wind Waker is less deserving of representation than Twilight Princess, or any other Zelda game at all
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on November 13, 2014, 05:02:12 PM
With Zelda there's at least a precedent for that. It's pretty well-known that there are in fact multiple guys named Link from one game to the next.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Turtlekid1 on November 13, 2014, 06:15:37 PM
Balance among a huge number of characters is possible. Project M has 42 and even the worst ones aren't considered bad, really, just not quite as good as the top.
I don't disagree, and Project M would probably still be my favorite SSB to play if it had Mega Man and Robin.  But still, some people do argue that balance can't happen with a lot of characters.  Of course, that's more an issue of developers' willingness to fine-tune it than their ability.  Of course, we're about to see a precedent set for official balance updates with the next SSB4 patch...
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on November 13, 2014, 06:45:34 PM
I personally think we should cap the character count at 16 (and 12 for Mario Kart, which I'd prefer less in only because you can't race 16 at once--or maybe you can in the new one; I've only played the Wii U version once).

This is satire, right?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: TheMightyThor on November 15, 2014, 08:50:51 PM
I feel like characters being buffed and nerfed after the game's release would make it harder to learn that character's strategies and stuff. What if your strategy with a character involves a kill move that's been nerfed? What if your strategy against a character involves avoiding a move that becomes harder to avoid? Those are perhaps extreme examples, but I really hope they don't release too many of these balance updates. Besides, how many times will we have to delete replays because they don't work anymore?

And I think you guys might want to give n64forever a break. Yeah, only having 16 characters is pretty dumb, especially since you don't HAVE to use all the characters outside the 16 you think shouldn't be in, but it's obvious he's not a very hardcore gamer or anything, and he might be too old fashioned for all this newfangled huge roster of characters he doesn't recognize mumbo jumbo.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: n64forever on November 15, 2014, 09:26:36 PM
TheMightyThor, you hit it on the head, I'm sort of old-school (hence the username) and definitely don't play as much as I used to (that's what happens when a little thing called work gets in the way...to those of you still in school with time to kill, make the most of every minute, whether it's games or something else).

Back in the day I'd play a few hours of games almost every day, but nowadays it's mostly if I have a free weekend and none of my pals have plans--or if I've had a really tough day and need to blow off steam--there is nothing better than a video game to do that!!

As much as I like the SSB series, I will retain my opinion that there's still a ton of characters. I have played my share of fighting games and, plainly put, like to keep things simple. This is something I feel the original SSB did a very good job with, even if it was a limitation of the system and/or game pak capacity.

Here's my two cents on this, and you can take this or leave it, comment or rip it apart, etc: All SSB games to this point have been 4 player games. Let's say you go with a theoretical 16 character roster without redundancies (i.e. no Mario and Dr. Mario). You only have, at most, a quarter of the roster on the screen at the same time. Character rotation is still very much possible. Additionally, you can master a character's moves a little easier if you only focus on one or two, plus you can get to know what the others do a bit better, even if you seldom play as them.

This may sound like it's going to make the game too easy for a more serious gamer, but I've played SSB with guys more serious than me and it's been pretty intense--even if we have been playing the game since 1999. Knowing the enemy and having the enemy know you makes for better strategy. How will you outfox Fox he knows what you can do as Mario? When I play Brawl, it's the opposite--I barely know any of the characters, and they barely know what you can do. I played Brawl a few months ago with someone who had no idea Peach could put people to sleep, and he got really confused by it. In a way, there's some good to that, but it's harder to come up with specific strategies to target individual characters.

I feel it's all a matter of preference, and I'd love to see a new SSB with a toggle switch on the character screen much like for items. This way "house rules" could apply--i.e. you can only select from a few characters. If you've been to casinos where they have seemingly random house rules, you know exactly what I'm talking about here.

Finally, and perhaps this proves that I'm not as serious as some of y'all, I like to actually know who the characters are. With the original SSB, I wasn't sure of Ness at first since I didn't have Earthbound (although I have played it since SSB came out) and didn't know Jiggly Puff (mostly because I never got into Pokemon; I did know Pikachu since he was everywhere in 1999...take one trip down an aisle at Target and he's on half the products). That's 2 out of 12. Not bad. In Brawl, I think I knew about half the characters. However, this is also sort of a great marketing device from Nintendo--going back to the Marth and Roy example, people knew who they were because of an already popular game, so perhaps they would be more willing to try out their games. Likewise, if someone hasn't played Earthbound, perhaps they will get it on the Virtual Console (I think it's out on Wii U) to see who this Ness guy is.

Just a few thoughts from a guy who's not getting any younger or getting any more free time...and who started out with an Atari 2600 where character selection was pretty much not a thing!!
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: WarpRattler on November 16, 2014, 07:35:26 AM
I understand where you're coming from, and as a proponent of competitive balance, I'm all for smaller rosters in fighting games, but being a Nintendo fan and not knowing who Jigglypuff was at the height of Pokémon fever is pretty [darn] strange.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: n64forever on November 16, 2014, 08:49:12 PM
I understand where you're coming from, and as a proponent of competitive balance, I'm all for smaller rosters in fighting games, but being a Nintendo fan and not knowing who Jigglypuff was at the height of Pokémon fever is pretty [darn] strange.

Ah, perhaps I should explain--by the time 1999 rolled around, I was mostly focused on the established series. I didn't get Nintendo Power or any other gaming magazine and just bought the strategy guides for the games I had (this was before you could just go online and find quality walkthroughs or videos, and if sites did exist, they mostly seemed to have tricks/tips, not necessarily full walkthroughs--ah, the days of dial-up). Typically, I'd learn about games outside of those I played through friends or the newspaper (yes, I'm showing my age, I know), and most of the guys I knew who were into Nintendo were Mario/Zelda people to begin with.

It probably also helps to know that I didn't have a Game Boy. A little research revealed the first games were exclusive to it. None of my close buddies at the time had one, either (although a few of us did splurge for the Advance by the time it came out--I mostly got one for Mario Kart Advance).

The first I heard of Pokemon was Summer 1999 when it started appearing on literally everything at the stores. They had a report about it on the local news and they said who Pikachu was, so that's how I learned his name. I only learned Jiggly Puff when I got SSB.

I was 13 at the time and while a lot of people say Mario is "kiddy", I felt Pokemon was "kiddier". (If that word didn't exist before, it does now). I actually passed on Mario Party since I felt I was older and wanted more mature games, and Pokemon just looked like something for younger kids, so I ignored it entirely. I think this had more to do with being 13 than anything :)  Incidentally, I just bought Mario Party 2 for N64 this past year on eBay and while it does have some kiddy elements, I'm kicking myself for not looking past its exterior because it's actually pretty darn fun!!

Perhaps if I were 10, not 13, I would have given Pokemon more of a chance, but I was one of those 13 year olds who was too anxious to grow up. Now I'm that 28 year old who wishes he hadn't...
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: TheMightyThor on November 17, 2014, 12:31:03 AM
What the hell, you're 28?! I thought you were almost a decade older.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on November 17, 2014, 02:07:33 AM
I feel like characters being buffed and nerfed after the game's release would make it harder to learn that character's strategies and stuff.

What's worse, having to relearn everything about Little Mac or the only thing you need to learn about him being Don't Use Little Mac

This way "house rules" could apply--i.e. you can only select from a few characters.

You'd better have some good beer or something if you'd do this and still expect guests!
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: n64forever on November 18, 2014, 10:47:04 PM

You'd better have some good beer or something if you'd do this and still expect guests!


Hmm...currently, I've got a local microbrew and some Sam Adams on hand...plus I usually have Mexicoke sitting around :)


TheMightyThor: I think the reason you'd think I'm older is because I started with a 2600. My mom bought this system when she was in grad school in the early 80s. I got started on it when I was 3 years old. It took a few years to get an NES, but even then, the 2600 was still my favorite for a little while. Then, my dad bought me a game called Super Mario Bros 3, and let's just say the 2600 got neglected a bit...
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: TheMightyThor on November 20, 2014, 11:34:31 PM
Posting just to announce my glee that as of my typing this, Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U has been released in the east coast of North America!

I'm not getting it until Christmas, though.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Jman on November 21, 2014, 10:10:57 AM
Here we are...the morning of the release of both this game and the Hoenn remakes.  Nintendo's about to make some serious cash this holiday season.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: CrossEyed7 on November 21, 2014, 02:40:20 PM
On the default Wii U controls, L and R are shield and ZL and ZR are grab. On the Classic Controller, that's the same as the Gamecube controller (triggers shield, bumpers grab), but on the GamePad and the Pro Controller, it's the reverse (triggers grab, bumpers shield). You can change that per profile in the control customization (which means you have to remember to select your name every time you play any mode), but as far as I can tell, the GamePad, Classic Controller, and Pro Controller can't be changed separately -- all three are grouped under "Standard Controller". I'm not sure whether it would be easier to remember to select my profile every time I play anything, or get used to flipped controls (and then mentally unflip them back if I'm using a Classic Controller). Or just get a Gamecube adapter, which I was going to do today and forgot.

Other than that, it's great.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Turtlekid1 on November 21, 2014, 08:33:26 PM
I can't even find the adapter anywhere in my area right now... I wish I had a dilemma that let me use GC controllers.  Personally, after getting used to the 3DS controls, I'd be fine with those for myself, but anyone else I wanna play with might not even have a 3DS, let alone want to use it as a controller.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: TheMightyThor on November 23, 2014, 09:27:49 PM
This guy got a messed up copy of Smash, and... (https://miiverse.nintendo.net/users/Guuppp/posts)

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FbWHWo7C.jpg&hash=f335c0cfa27205bfb3bb00d59907eda6)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on November 24, 2014, 12:45:52 AM
Well... that's unfortunate!
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: ShadowBrain on November 24, 2014, 06:50:10 AM
Almost as freaky as how that guy has the same username I had when I first started using message boards in middle school.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on November 24, 2014, 07:27:57 PM
A few more:

http://38.media.tumblr.com/32021f9b2675cb2f5178e0c3be4ca83f/tumblr_nfiu2d0nCI1qadqfco2_1280.png
http://38.media.tumblr.com/cd20e22f5a966ed6091f4c798fd49ee7/tumblr_nfiu2d0nCI1qadqfco4_1280.png
http://38.media.tumblr.com/6f0c4e9ca96303394b7ab65c43d7a809/tumblr_nfiu2d0nCI1qadqfco1_1280.png



GCN controller Adapters are currently selling for upwards of $60. (http://kotaku.com/smash-bros-gamecube-adapters-sold-out-online-prices-g-1662162871) Likewise, Marth Amiibos are being scalped for 50% more than their regular retail price since there are so few of them to go around. I had to visit four stores to find a Villager, and that location only had a single one left in stock. The cheapest you can get him on Amazon is $16, which is a few dollars more than any but Marth.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on December 07, 2014, 04:55:38 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwd00v5MXgU

I'd like to thank smash bros. for influencing people to imitate it with real life violence because it's really really funny to watch
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Lizard Dude on December 14, 2014, 10:00:13 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10292454_826662600710023_8057564775962195726_n.jpg?oh=af045a07e67e822a37c5cd1d208bd7f6&oe=54F973A9&__gda__=1425806865_bd38030c010c0536394a9eceec2f0205)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on December 15, 2014, 03:42:28 PM
Wonder how much money they've lost out on from would-be Marth, Villager, and WFT Amiibo buyers so far. Unless they change their mind and churn out a bunch more of each, this is terrible business sense. They should just stop printing Marios and Pikachus since everyone who wants those ones has them, and replace their shelf space with Little Macs and the like for the time being.

Speaking of which, how's everyone's collection like? Mario, Yoshi, and Villager here. Hoping to eventualy get Rosalina, and perhaps Toon Link and ROB.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on December 15, 2014, 04:11:14 PM
I only really want Greninja and Ness. Well, that's easy to say, but the sheer once-in-a-lifetime factor for characters like Shulk or Dr. Mario is difficult to disregard...

Even though I don't personally care about what amiibos do, I find it really really stupid that some characters are already impossible to find. This is a game mode! People are going to go to the game mode 30 years from now and only be able to read about what it did on the internet. I mean, obviously almost all games will in some way outlive the production of anything sold-separately needed to play all of their parts. But it hasn't even been one month yet, and it's already too late to get one if you ever wanted a Wii Fit Trainer FP? That is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Lizard Dude on December 15, 2014, 10:55:07 PM
I had originally vaguely planned to collect-'em-all, buying one a week or so but once I saw how fast the new waves were coming and the fact that certain Amiibo vanished forever from stores within two weeks I bailed on that dream.

Current collection:

Fox -- The first time I saw Amiibo in RL something about the Fox figure grabbed me. I never use him in Smash and have played all the games but have no particular fanboy love for Star Fox. However something about his large amount of colors, details, and dashing pose sold me. I also like the costume he gets you in Mario Kart 8. I use it, the Prancer kart, and the Waddle Wing for a complete animal set!

Wii Fit Trainer -- After a few days of seeing reports about the incredible scarcity and skyrocketing prices of The Three Amiibos I noticed that my store still had one of them on the shelf: a lone Wii Fit Trainer. When Amiibo was announced she was the one I dreamed of owning first because it's funny. Now I'm livin' the dream.

Little Mac -- Today we received a lone Little Mac (accompanied by a sole Diddy and five Zeldas) and I insta-bought it.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on December 19, 2014, 05:20:40 PM
I'm so discouraged about having to unlock all those custom moves and Mii outfits over again. I had nearly every clothing item and a good two-thirds of the custom moves unlocked in the 3DS version, which all now feels for naught. Part of me wishes this will be the last Smash Bros. ever so I'll be able to unlock everything without feeling I've wasted my time once SSB5 is inevitably announced.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on December 20, 2014, 01:14:34 AM
I don't think I have ever had less fun with a game than with Smash Tour.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on December 20, 2014, 01:59:04 AM
Have yet to try it. Does it make Smash Run feel like the zenith of game design?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on December 20, 2014, 03:22:32 AM
I didn't have a chance to play Smash Run. But I'll put it like this: comparing Smash Tour to Mario Party is unfair. To Mario Party. It is "Random Crap Happens And Someone Is Declared The Winner" to a ridiculous degree.

Characters are dropped onto the map such that you know who's going to get them as soon as they appear. Yup, some jackoff is going to get your favorite character while the RNG decides Jigglypuff and Marth are perfect for you.

When fights happen, you might just die at the word go, because while you're busy soaking in that you're Marth, the match is going to be an "Explosive Smash," and the only in-battle item you have is a back shield, the other players are using their in-battle items that make you start with 100% and give them Hammers. You'll figure out why you died...after it happens.

The last match has one cool thing about it. Each of your stocks is a different character. Why wasn't this a normal mode where you can choose your characters!? The dumb part (other than that you're probably going to be using characters no higher than #14 or so on your favorites list) is that it's time mode. Meaning, you can go in with two characters, lose them both halfway through the match, and still win if you had enough KOs.

The entire mode will make you feel young again. In the worst ****ing ways possible. You have no power in it. Decisions are constantly being made for you. Something bad will happen, it won't be your fault, but you'll be punished anyway. The other players will get things you want. You'll be stuck with things you don't. You will want to cry and scream, "this isn't fair."
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on January 09, 2015, 05:17:19 PM
That's... pretty much what I imagined, only worse.

Have a visual pun.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: ShadowBrain on January 10, 2015, 12:56:44 PM
I didn't have a chance to play Smash Run. But I'll put it like this: comparing Smash Tour to Mario Party is unfair. To Mario Party. It is "Random Crap Happens And Someone Is Declared The Winner" to a ridiculous degree.
Just about literally my face when I first started that up while playing alone.

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.pandawhale.com%2F112636-mark-wahlberg-confused-speechl-xFdS.gif&hash=f5b8cef2a908d3cdb1d64c550274789a)

The concept had potential, but if a bigger cluster**** has ever been put to code, I've never played it.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Lizard Dude on January 11, 2015, 01:07:11 PM
Smash Run and Smash Tour have the same problem. And it's not brutal randomness. It's the severely whack ratio of build-up to main event. You spend five- or thirty-minutes doing a less-fun-than-Smashing stat building event and then the climactic battle is just a two-minute flash in the pan. Smash Run events should be at least three-stock or take five minutes. Smash Tour should just be pure stock.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Tavros on January 18, 2015, 08:12:13 AM
I, personally, only disliked Smash Tour. Smash Run actually had some fun for me.

On an unrelated note, Lucina is my main, and the best girl.

And I was right, part of Mega Man's Final Samsh is Black Hole Bomb! Yay! Even if I've known this since the demo.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on January 18, 2015, 11:43:21 AM
A big part of my love for Smash Run has to do with it being heavily based on City Trial from Kirby Air Ride, a game I love to pieces.

Unfortunately, I'm running out of Powers and Custom Parts to unlock. :(
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on January 18, 2015, 07:30:41 PM
Has anyone else noticed the Melee songs getting huge parts cut out of them? It's especially noticeable in DK Rap but other songs have parts missing, like some of the best-sounding parts of Pollyanna and whatnot. Why? Why did they make the effort to make the songs worse? So they'd save space in the 3DS version? Is there a reason they needed to be this way in the Wii U version too? what...
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on January 18, 2015, 07:49:52 PM
I've been trying to figure out that out myself, and it can't be because of space. There are several other tracks that run longer than those tracks did before they were cut down.

The two most infuriating things about the DK Rap being cut down are a) They cut out Lanky and Chunky's verses, even though they're unarguably the heart and soul of DK64, and b) The verses they did leave in, Tiny and Diddy's, are nigh-incomprehensible. Nice job, music department. -__-
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Lizard Dude on January 19, 2015, 03:56:12 AM
Huh? My copy of Smash 4 also had an edited DK Rap but... sounds like it's different than your guys'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSlaKKv4t78
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on January 19, 2015, 08:32:10 PM
Who really needs another version?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: CrossEyed7 on January 31, 2015, 01:25:54 AM
(https://36.media.tumblr.com/e6d1c9101f6311e96abe1c1eb6babe47/tumblr_niz6hcjem81tzoejlo1_540.jpg)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Themetaknight on March 18, 2015, 04:54:50 AM
I really wish I had a Wii U or a 3DS...
welp, my wallet is almost dead anyways
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: TheMightyThor on March 18, 2015, 01:30:34 PM
Huh? My copy of Smash 4 also had an edited DK Rap but... sounds like it's different than your guys'.
(video)
Instrumentally, that's actually a really good sounding remix/remaster of the original.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on April 01, 2015, 05:39:36 PM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.gyazo.com%2F12722b53feae22ed1087bbd9ca6faf4a.png&hash=2726942ca7a7bfe71eb5896f86f29ea3)

guess who's happy
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on April 01, 2015, 06:06:18 PM
Me! Because I get to vote for King K. Rool! :D
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on April 15, 2015, 03:27:33 PM
Who here Mewtwo?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BriGuy92 on April 15, 2015, 04:35:18 PM
*raises hand*
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Lizard Dude on April 16, 2015, 12:00:09 AM
Smash today was ridiculous.


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Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on April 16, 2015, 03:51:11 AM
If you want to get FG wins, play as your main.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Tavros on April 16, 2015, 08:32:00 PM
Wow
Also I voted for Crono in Smash
Does that make me an idiot?
Probably, yes
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on April 17, 2015, 03:25:11 PM
Letting him in would open the floodgates for Square Enix reps, which is a scary thought.

It seems that sound clips pertaining to Roy and Street Fighter's Ryu have been found in the 1.0.6 patch. (http://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/32nymz/smash_update_106_decrypted_first_observations/)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on April 30, 2015, 06:26:14 AM
I finally unlocked the last of the custom specials. I really wish customs were handled differently... since they take forever to unlock and are somewhat of a hassle to set up, it's not super likely that the tournament scene is going to use them. Which I think will make Smash 4 tournaments a lot less fun to watch, hurt the balance of the game, and remove a unique point of interest from the game altogether and leave it as Super Not Melee 2. Wish they could have been bought in an in-game shop like trophies or simply been all unlocked from the start, and players could choose their custom moves when selecting a character like vehicle parts in Mario Kart 8 or assists in Marvel vs. Capcom.

But, I guess it doesn't affect how I'll play it all that much. Pretty much everyone I've talked to and played with thinks custom moves are totally fine and equipment has no place in multiplayer besides taunt matches. And a fine thing, because Greninja really needs some of his customs to be better, if you ask me. Default Substitute's window for activation is so short and the counterattack is so slow that it's liable to miss and can even be countered by a much better counter move like Counter or Vision. One of its customs is even slower for some reason. The last one is not a counter, but is more like a sidestep dodge that explodes! This, I think, is even better than a counter move would be, because it will activate even if Greninja is not attacked, making it harder to punish. I wanted to use the default Substitute because I love how the dinky little green plush is accurate to the games and everything, but I had little success with it and eventually stopped trying. Switching to Exploding Attack gives me a reliable option I definitely didn't have before.

For other characters, I like... Lucas's PK Thunder/Freeze/Magnet for Ness (Freeze has actually scored me a real KO or two, I think it has some edgeguarding application if you time it right and your opponent is real real dumb or has a predictable recovery), Decisive Monado Arts/Power Vision/Back Slash Charge/Advancing Air Slash for Shulk, Fire Arrow and Time Bomb for Toon "Litterbug" Link, never ever the defaults for Mega Man...
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on April 30, 2015, 08:57:46 AM
Funny how Palutena has so much more diversity in her custom moves. Either they planned to give everyone else the same treatment but ran short of time, or Sakurai wanted to keep his waifu special.

Agreed that they should either be available from the start, or available for purchase with in-game coins. I couldn't even be bothered to get them for my favourite characters in the Wii U version.

For any fellow Villager mains, Giant Gyroid is great for wallbuilding.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on April 30, 2015, 03:16:28 PM
Crazy Orders is where to do it. With Home Run Bat/Quick Batter/First Striker equipment, preferably on a character with a fast long projectile. Use that and Crazy Orders will print good stuff. When I was down to 50-25 moves to unlock and the reward drops were slowing down, the most efficient way seemed to be to start Crazy Orders, just make sure the character I beat the most was one whose moves I didn't have a complete set for, and end the run after only 3 or 4 rounds (and then playing longer ones to make back the coins). Then when I was down to 2 or 3 more I made bat setups for those characters, since you'll often get a move for the character you're using when you unlock a move in a round. Ike was the last and I couldn't put a bat equip on him, so I used Ray Gun Boots instead.

Yeah it takes forever still and that's not good. Just saying the quickest way, if it helps.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on April 30, 2015, 06:14:16 PM
Cool beans, thought I'd read something about equipping a Home Run Bat but didn't pay it much mind.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on June 04, 2015, 08:28:57 AM
Got my Ness amiibo, but I am disappointed in the AI. It is becoming difficult to beat, but not because it's a smart or effective attacker. It's just doing what level 9 CPUs have always done in lieu of being smart or unpredictable, shielding and dodging with impossible foresight. It has learned to use PSI Magnet when I'm using PK Thunder to recover... but hasn't figured out that the point is to be where I am, and steal my PK Thunder so I can't make it back to the stage (admittedly this is a trick that only works for Ness in a mirror match, until Lucas is released). Worst of all, it keeps using PK Thunder 2 off the ground, which I have never ever ever done in its presence, and never works. Hey. Bad Ness/Lucas players and bad Ness/Lucas AIs. Stop using PK Thunder 2 as a ground attack. It is slow, telegraphed, and easily shielded, avoided or countered. Kudos for not being Kirby and spamming Stone but you're only half a rung above that if you think PK Thunder 2 is a good ground attack. Sincerely yours, die.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on June 13, 2015, 04:09:44 PM
Roy and Ryu have been mined out of the most recent patch, as well as a Street Fighter stage for Ryu, Dreamland 64, and I guess Lucas.

I got nothing to say about Roy, really. Ryu seems to have real combos--moves that can cancel into other moves while the opponent is in hitstun, like in traditional fighting games and Lucario in Project M. He also has two final smashes. Given their presence I'm betting they'll be released really soon.

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F92MbdTc.png&hash=0b5088b875e8a0c40b15e735b5cd970b)

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Better start walkin', bud!
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Lizard Dude on June 13, 2015, 05:42:44 PM
Well, I hope this teaches Nintendo a lesson about patching.

Take next week's Hearthstone patch as a counterexample. Over the course of two weeks Blizzard revealed three new Heroes and a new mode. A patch was uploaded the very next day after the last announcement. It of course instantly got the **** datamined out of it but there was nothing unannounced.

Why didn't Nintendo wait two days?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on June 13, 2015, 06:59:42 PM
If they are about to be announced and released, then this recent update makes a little sense, now many people have the download done in advance and just need the curiously large download of a key (I've never understood what is IN a DLC key that requires a download so large if the character is already in a patch)... the leak months ago that had Roy and Ryu's names in it, though, I don't get. Why prepare musical stuff so early on?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on June 14, 2015, 02:04:10 PM
Wonder if Ryu was actually the most popular Smash Vote pick.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on June 14, 2015, 02:45:32 PM
I doubt it, but, we don't really know. People love to act like it's K. Rool but there's no evidence beyond "a bunch of Redditor reported, to each other, that they voted K. Rool"
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Lizard Dude on June 15, 2015, 12:49:41 AM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F8Hb93Aa.jpg&hash=3559e130b485fd8500eb070b7f2f0ffe)


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Miiverse stage is working well.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on June 15, 2015, 01:15:42 AM
It's better than I ever imagined. I had heard legends of Splatoon's Miiverse, but the countless cheers for "Mama Luigi" and "Green Mario" have confirmed it for me firsthand. Miiverse is truly the center of culture in this world.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on June 15, 2015, 05:57:40 PM
Yup.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Tavros on June 15, 2015, 07:28:23 PM
I hate Miiverse
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on June 15, 2015, 09:00:09 PM
Oh it's not so bad

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(Yes it is. All I've done is the equivalent of trying to save the Titanic from sinking by drinking a mouthful of water in it with the intention of peeing it off the ship later)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: CrossEyed7 on June 15, 2015, 09:29:33 PM
I would hope that eventually it'll be weighted more toward top posts, though every time I've looked in the communities no posts even had any Yeahs. (it would also be nice if there was a way to Yeah and report posts from within the game)

Actually, the best solution might be for Nintendo to pay BP to just draw posts full time.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: CrossEyed7 on June 16, 2015, 10:14:58 PM
So Lucas is literally the only playable character in Smash 4 right now who has no direct cross-promotional purpose -- every other character is featured in at least one other game that is currently available on the eShop.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on June 16, 2015, 10:23:14 PM
I guess if you wanna stretch it you could say he's there to promote Earthbound Beginnings...?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Tavros on June 16, 2015, 10:46:50 PM
Promotion for Tomato's fan translation
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: CrossEyed7 on June 16, 2015, 11:03:59 PM
I guess if you wanna stretch it you could say he's there to promote Earthbound Beginnings...?
Tangentially, but every other character has another game available right now, not just from their series, but that they themselves are actually in. Marth, Roy, and Ike are available as DLC in Awakening, Street Fighter IV is on the 3DS and there's like three Street Fighter IIs on the Wii U, ROB is in Mario Kart DS, Game & Watch Gallery 1-3 and Starfox 64 3D are up... the only other game Lucas is in that's available outside of Japan is Brawl.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on June 19, 2015, 03:37:31 AM
Is the character select plus DLC characters driving anyone else up the wall? I mean, it's not really a big deal or worth complaining about but it's human nature to want things organized, no? I guess that if I were not inclined to buy a particular character I would be thankful that a big padlock wasn't on the character select instead as many games like to do, but aaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrgh there are so many ways the layout could be tidied up that I can't help but make one of my own every time the roster is newly complete
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Jman on June 25, 2015, 12:36:37 PM
I believe Eric Cartman said something about Chatroulette that applies to the Miiverse stage.

Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on October 16, 2015, 09:16:32 AM
Did anyone receive a download code for the Mario Maker stage? A friend says he got an email for it.

And he didn't even buy MM ;~;
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: bobbysq1337 on October 16, 2015, 03:43:02 PM
I didn't, but I also bought it shortly after it was released.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Tavros on November 12, 2015, 08:01:37 PM
Hey BP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6v_MdaIHOtk

What did you say about Cloud in Smash?
I just hope FFVII gets released on a Nintendo platform soon.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on November 12, 2015, 09:32:02 PM
I don't remember

Cloud falls into that zone of characters I don't care about but don't actually really really hate either (I hate a lot of stuff he stands for but whatever), like Roy, who I got for the sake of completeness and other people who'd want to use him playing my console. Whereas, if Shadow the Hedghog got in and you wanted to use him playing my Wii U you'd be SOL

I like how he's gonna make every previously anime-like character in the game look like realistic regular joes in comparison. Robin's Levin Sword suddenly looks practical.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Lizard Dude on November 13, 2015, 11:37:57 AM
The odds of Mallow/Geno just shot up 1000%
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on November 13, 2015, 11:41:41 AM
About time. People have been asking forEVER. And it's no wonder. Powerful magic, interesting background, has a lot of good stuff to say... it's no wonder Mallow is so popular.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: CrossEyed7 on November 14, 2015, 12:50:35 AM
I'll be kinda surprised if we don't get Mallow and Geno Mii costumes now. And Banjo-Kazooie just got a little more likely.

Also Snake better come back now.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: ShadowBrain on November 21, 2015, 07:32:39 AM
Yeah, a lot more is looking like fair game now that Cloud's on the table.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: CrossEyed7 on November 21, 2015, 09:19:00 PM
I'm naming my Cloud amiibo Mallow.

Banjo and Kazooie definitely deserve a spot to represent the Rare N64 era (Diddy's kind of doing double duty now of representing DKC and DK64); the big question is whether Microsoft would also let a Banjo-Kazooie game go up on the eShop (maybe Grunty's Revenge)? Every other character in Smash is in at least one other game on the eShop -- R.O.B. is in Mario Kart DS, Cloud is in Theatrhythm and FF Explorers, Snake is in MGS3 3D , and Japan gets Mother 3 on the Virtual Console next month. I don't think they'd put in a character with no potential for cross-promotion at this point.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: CrossEyed7 on November 21, 2015, 09:19:57 PM
The other big question is if the FF7 remake is coming to the NX.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Chocobo on November 26, 2015, 03:29:44 AM
So Lucas is literally the only playable character in Smash 4 right now who has no direct cross-promotional purpose -- every other character is featured in at least one other game that is currently available on the eShop.

For Japan, it will eventually. Mother 3's going to their VC in January 2016.

For the US it's just like "LOL Blonde boy has psychic powers also Eartbhound!"
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Lizard Dude on December 11, 2015, 07:44:11 PM
Since they're calling the December 15 Smash presentation the "final" one, I'm going to go ahead and lower those Mallow/Geno odds back down now.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: CrossEyed7 on December 13, 2015, 05:58:48 PM
The "final" thing seems weird. The ballot only closed two months ago, and even though the ballot was more of a suggestion box and didn't really need to be tallied up, it still doesn't seem like they could have gotten development on ballot character(s) far enough by now.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on December 13, 2015, 06:51:46 PM
They're probably gonna announce who won the ballot, and then develop the winners...?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on December 14, 2015, 03:14:52 PM
No matter who wins the ballot, we lose.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: CrossEyed7 on December 14, 2015, 08:24:03 PM
But does that mean we're not getting a video presentation of the ballot winners? Cloud's probably gonna be up for download right after the Direct, since he was pretty much done in the last video, but are the others just gonna appear on the eShop in the spring with no previews?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on December 14, 2015, 09:48:28 PM
Maybe they'll explain it all in the video proper?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Lizard Dude on December 14, 2015, 11:53:55 PM
It's just the last presentation dedicated solely to Smash. They can keep throwing Smash stuff into regular Directs as long as they like.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Tavros on December 15, 2015, 05:03:38 PM
So Corrin form FE: Fates (not a clone actually) and Bayonetta are in.
Who'da thunk
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on December 15, 2015, 05:21:22 PM
Because we absolutely needed another FE rep!
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on December 15, 2015, 05:25:28 PM
I'm a-ok with Bayonetta. It's Corrin who kinda bugs me. When exactly did Fire Emblem become the new Pokémon...?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Tavros on December 15, 2015, 06:57:09 PM
Honestly Corrin is hella hype. FE has always been extremely underrated, and with Corrin not being a clone, I'm even more excited. As Corrin only has 1 move similar to other sword fighters, and even then it's pretty unique, I'm happy. And, while Bayonetta is pretty cool, I'd rather have, say, Crono. But at least it isn't Wolf, K. Rool or Shovel Knight.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on December 15, 2015, 08:44:36 PM
But at least it isn't... K. Rool

*sigh*
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on December 15, 2015, 09:06:38 PM
And, while Bayonetta is pretty cool, I'd rather have, say, Crono.

I thought you were going to name another FE character.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on December 16, 2015, 12:35:56 AM
Is the number of Fire Emblem characters even that strange, really? This is a series that has had consistent releases since the NES with no hiatuses, just like Zelda. Unlike Zelda, it does not use the same characters over and over and over--what Zelda character would you suggest to make sure the "most important series" have the most characters, Tingle? Beedle? Talon? Corrin will bring the number of Fire Emblem characters who are not clones of each other up to four--like what Zelda has. And I don't get the impression that Corrin was chosen for the same reason as Roy, just to promote the next FE. Yeah, it's kind of the same setup, but look at it this way: Roy ended up becoming a Smash legacy character who is only in now because he was in Melee. If you're going to potentially create one of those, what's better? Red Marth, or Chainsword McDragonfist?

Bayonetta looks super sick. Glad a good character was leading the ballots and none of the terrible ideas that the internet seemed to think were definitely gonna happen.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on December 16, 2015, 04:52:29 PM
They could afford to take out a couple FE characters as one new ones come in. Some are about as important to the roster as Pichu.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on December 16, 2015, 05:37:52 PM
You saying Ike should've been dropped in favor of just Robin and a very very close Marth clone?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Turtlekid1 on December 16, 2015, 06:25:57 PM
Or drop Marth in favor of Lucina, who could very easily have had "Marth" as an alternate costume, especially since she even goes by that name initially in the game in which she features.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on December 16, 2015, 06:26:29 PM
Lucina not being there would've definitely eliminated some of the sting.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: ShadowBrain on December 16, 2015, 08:18:40 PM
Couldn't care less about Corrin, but Bayonetta should be fun. Way to kick the Geno fans while they're down with that Mii costume, though.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on December 17, 2015, 03:10:12 AM
I dunno man. I just don't really get what's wrong with six Fire Emblem characters, even if one of them is a Dr. Mario and another one is a Luigi. I guess it's partly because the clones really didn't take away from development time at all, and partly because I was totally sated by getting the character I wanted the most, and the character I didn't know I wanted even more, both at launch. I bet you wish you were happy like me lol
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Turtlekid1 on December 17, 2015, 07:47:34 AM
It's also because this version of the game led people to hope even more than before that anyone could get in.  Mega Man and Pac-Man?  It wasn't all that big of a leap to Cloud from there.  There was and is a strong presence of "different" fighters in the game while FE characters very aesthetically (and often mechanically) the same.  Not to mention there's still this sense that it's not a legitimate Nintendo IP compared to ones that have been more popular in the West traditionally, as opposed to, say, making their US debut in Melee.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: CrossEyed7 on December 17, 2015, 06:50:27 PM
It annoys me that Fire Emblem characters going to be in four different places on the character select screen -- three in the main Fire Emblem section, one in the clone strip, one near the beginning of the DLC strip, and one near the end of the DLC strip. I'd pay an extra $0.25 for Bayonetta if buying her also bought a reorganized character select screen.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on December 18, 2015, 02:07:41 AM
oh yeah that's one I'm right with you on it drives me absolutely bonkers

i mean it's not that hard to please please please

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Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on December 18, 2015, 03:29:38 PM
Had Cloud ever appeared on a Nintendo console?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: WarpRattler on December 18, 2015, 04:56:38 PM
Multiple Kingdom Hearts games, Theatrhythm, and Final Fantasy Explorers.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: CrossEyed7 on February 12, 2016, 10:28:48 PM
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If you shave two pixels off each side of the portraits, you can fit everyone in one screen on the 3DS, with room left over for two big Random buttons that I didn't feel like drawing (the one on the left would work like the Melee random where it picks one and you see who it picks, and the other one would work like the Brawl/4 button where you don't know who you're gonna get until the fight starts). Or some more characters.

(Ness and Lucas are high-fiving now; that's adorable.)

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I also made this one while I was at it, and forgot to leave room for a random button. Maybe it's on the bottom screen.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on February 23, 2016, 05:52:33 PM
the roster only has cloud, corrin and bayonetta in it so I would say no
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: AbdullahFaatai on February 23, 2016, 06:25:39 PM
the roster only has cloud, corrin and bayonetta in it so I would say no

****ing dumb ass
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Tavros on February 23, 2016, 08:37:17 PM
Wow what an insight it's almost as if BP usually uses sarcasm.
Are you the new ColonelKR
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Toad on February 24, 2016, 12:40:01 AM
Had Cloud ever appeared on a Nintendo console?

Lakitu has been riding in one since SMB.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on February 24, 2016, 01:31:24 AM
A few spin-offs (usually with the hands-sawn-off superdeformed chibi kawaii >3< art that would clash hilariously with the tone of any of the real games) on Nintendos have had Clod, but FF7 has not been on a Nintendo
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: CrossEyed7 on February 24, 2016, 08:52:16 PM
Cloud's definitely an important part of Nintendo's history. Not one they'd really want to celebrate, but
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on February 24, 2016, 10:04:20 PM
Like Sonic?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: The Chef on February 24, 2016, 10:31:21 PM
Cloud seems like he's really more there to represent Final Fantasy as a whole, which is very synonymous with Nintendo. Can't really blame a business for picking the face of the most famous game in that particular series.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Weegee on February 25, 2016, 01:05:51 AM
Wish they'd gone with a Black Mage instead. I want to Blizzaga someone's ass.

Come to think of it, the only character I've downloaded was Mewtwo, and I wouldn't have bothered had he not been free. All I've bought besides that are the Toad and Geno costumes and the Mario Maker stage.

Also, http://www.technobuffalo.com/2016/02/23/sakurai-geno-super-smash-dlc-character/
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: WarpRattler on February 25, 2016, 02:16:18 AM
The Chef has the right idea. Cloud is the Final Fantasy character; if you asked a hundred people which series protagonist was their favorite, you'd get a handful of responses each for Cecil, Terra, Squall, and Tidus, with the majority of the responses being Cloud. Picking another Final Fantasy character for a crossover fighter would be like picking Raiden instead of Solid Snake or DmC Dante instead of classic Devil May Cry Dante.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: CrossEyed7 on February 25, 2016, 05:59:58 PM
Wouldn't've killed Square to throw in a couple more songs for the stage, tho. Not only no remixes, but no FF6, SMRPG, or Chrono Trigger music either? Cloud's technically been on Nintendo consoles, but nothing in his Smash representation has anything to do with Nintendo.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: Tavros on February 25, 2016, 08:07:28 PM
Theatrhythm? It's a stretch, but Cloud, Let The Battles Begin, and Fight On! (AKA the best piece in anything ever) were in at least the first game. (I don't own Curtain Call, so I don't know if it has Let The Battles Begin)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: 4 Game Freak on February 25, 2016, 10:47:20 PM
The Chef has the right idea. Cloud is the Final Fantasy character; if you asked a hundred people which series protagonist was their favorite, you'd get a handful of responses each for Cecil, Terra, Squall, and Tidus, with the majority of the responses being Cloud. Picking another Final Fantasy character for a crossover fighter would be like picking Raiden instead of Solid Snake or DmC Dante instead of classic Devil May Cry Dante.
To Nintendo Nerds, he's not! The Job Classes are the faces of Final Fantasy!

The thing with Cloud is that he is the manifestation of SQUARESOFT'S flipping the bird at Nintendo at 1996-1997 just for not using CD's at the time. Ever since, there has never been a major SQUARESOFT(now, SQUARE-ENIX) Title on a Nintendo Console(Handhelds notwithstanding). All on Playstation! Not the mention that Cloud himself was(is?)considered responsible for the many JRPG Protagonists with ridiculous weapons, shoddy clothes, and unlikable personalities(what most fans say).

That's why some don't like him.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: BP on February 26, 2016, 02:14:44 AM
That's why I don't like him. But if Square Enix was gonna bring in a character I can't contest their choice as making sense, Hot Topic has a lot of customers. Er, I mean, Final Fantasy has a large following.

I was disappointed at the soundtrack for Suzaku Castle. Guile's theme? Chun-Li's? Volcanic Rim? Well, everyone can't be Mega Man and Snake

Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U and 3DS
Post by: CrossEyed7 on February 26, 2016, 04:05:24 PM
I really miss Calling To The Night.