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Miscellaneous => General Chat => Topic started by: Nintendo Bros. on July 14, 2006, 08:19:53 PM
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I was bored, so I made this. My two would be Spongebob Squarepants and Pokemon.
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don't try to defame Pokemon, some people here may get mad at you!
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As much as I hate "open ended" polls like this, I must say that Camp Lazlo is one of the most insipid, horrendous excuses for a cartoon that's ever been fabricated over the last few years. I watched an episode and was not amused, at all.
In fact, most of what's on Cartoon Network nowadays is completely uninspired.
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I know man, those new cartoons barely make 10 episodes!
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I honestly don't care for any of the except the old pokèmon shows.
Good cartoons are:Rocko's Modern Life, Invader Zim, Ren and Stimpy, Simpsons,Family Guy, Futurama, Dexter's Lab, and Homestar Runner.
The only good thing about Cartoon Network nnow is the voice acting, since most Metal Gear Solid voice actors are Cartoon Network voice actors.
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I used to watch those cartoons when i was younger, ans I still do.
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I voted for Danny Phantom and other, because Danny Phantom seems like to strange a concept to develop into a cartoon. It looks like The Fairly Oddparents, so the visuals aren't anything new. And somehow there are so many ghosts that all have evil intentions in this one town... it seems a little too far-fetched, even for a cartoon. But then again, Ghostbusters was a great hit, so maybe I'm just weird.
I voted for "other" because I couldn't vote against the others. I like Spongebob, I don't watch Camp Lazlo or Billy and Mandy, Pokemon is still a good show for a younger audience, and Japanese Anime shows vary widely from one another, besides visual style. I also don't watch any anime, so I couldn't say anything with justification. But I'm sure there is some "other" show I think is inadequate. I shouldn't watch so much TV.
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"Other" for Fairly OddParents. *Is bashed.* Please, enough, I have a reason. I'd like to use Invader Zim, a show released the day FOP became a standalone show. Invader Zim features my style of humor: Don't blink or you'll miss it. The jokes are quick, subtle, and almost never repeated again. "Did you throw the muffin at Zim's head?" "Yes, as a matter of fact... I did." "Ah-HAAAAAH!!!!!!" I wish the next, unaired season would be aired in the U.S.A... Eeeeeeehh... See, in FOP, it's like, sleep through the whole thing an you won't miss it. The jokes are repeated over and over and over throughout the episode, and they're usually not that good. Like "Uranus is a planet?" and "Ding-dong!" It just annoys the living liver out of me.
SpongeBob... is wearing off. I miss the old days (2000 and 2001 were SpongBob's finest moments... "Arrgh!" was the best one ever.) But now, the episodes pretty much end before they start. The plot quality is falling swiftly. They're mostly just about Mr. Krabs and money, and Patrick saying something stupid. That's getting old. And that's all I have to say.
P.S., I don't watch TV that much anyway. I think it's because I'm completely sick of commercials.
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I voted:
1) Camp Lazlo - The show is just horrible. Read Insane Steve's post.
2) Billy and Mandy - Even though it can sometimes be a little funny, the show is sick, disturbing, and quite frankly, a little evil. The morals of that cartoon are really messed up.
Cartoon Network should be ashamed of themselves. They stopped showing Dexter's Lab, and all those good shows! :(
EDIT: My favorite line of Spongebob:
Patrick: "Oh...East? I thought you said.... weast."
(Mr. Krabs takes compass)
Mr. Krabs: "That's west, Patrick.... You're fired again."
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Camp Lazlo, because I've seen it and, frankly... read Insane Steve's post.
My next show is... Pokemon. The anime, frankly, is stupid, has no plot, and no character structure. The next Pokemon series will star a new character, meaning that Ash may finally be gone.
NOTE: I like the games themselves, but not the anime and TCG. kthxbye
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I always wonder when people complain like this: Did cartoons rapidly plummet in quality as soon as we all got older, or do shows made for young children not resonate with teenagers? Eh? Eh?
Grumpy old man syndrome is something I like to avoid.
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The only cartoons that I really dislike on that list are Camp Lazlo and Danny Phantom. As for Spongebob, the newer episodes stink because at one point, Stephen Hillenberg, the show's creator, left the show. When the creator leaves the show, it usually starts to suck big time.
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I completely agree with what BP and TC had to say about SBSP. The show is quickly fading away with sloppy plots, lousy acting, and a lack of funny scenes that the old ones always had (especially before they made Spongebob's voice much more childish and high-pitched). I can barely relate to any "golden moments," like this one:
Spongebob: *whispers* Drop the wallet, Pat.
*Patrick drops the wallet, enter Man Ray*
Man Ray: *to Patrick* Excuse me, sir! But I believe you dropped your wallet.
Patrick: It's not my wallet.
Man Ray: What? I just saw you drop it. Here.
Patrick: Doesn't look familiar to me.
Man Ray: Aren't you Patrick Star?
Patrick: Yup.
Man Ray: And this is your I.D.
Patrick: Yup.
Man Ray: I found this I.D. in this wallet, which must mean this is your wallet.
Patrick: That makes sense to me.
Man Ray: Then take it.
Patrick: It's not my wallet!
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I hate Spongebob. Not just because of how childishly sickening and demented it is, but because I've noticed
some many areas in the cartoon that are homosexually suggesstive.
Spongebob: Let's promise never to fight again.
(Spongebob and Patrick hold hands)
Another:
Spongebob: Patrick, why did you take off your pants?
Patrick: This stuff (invisible spray) stains clothes.
Spongebob: Good thinking! (takes off his pants)
I also recall seeing an episode where Spongebob and Patrick are parants. That's just plain wrong.
Spongebob looks like the sponge I get at Wal-Mart. Also, Spongebob calls his diabetic friend a "starfish". Those things are called sea stars. Spongebob claims that he's been to high school, but he's never been to college. Maybe that's why he's not very smart.
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I would say something about C.T.O.A.N.'s post but I'd probably break out into a huge rant bash fest that I'd rather not get into this early in the morning.
As for uninspirid cartoons, as bad as the new CN shows are, they're not nearly as bad as Adult Swims excuse of two certain cartoons: 12 oz. Mouse and Tom goes to the Mayor. I only hate Tom because of how lazy the "animation" is and because it's just incredibly boring. 12 oz. Mouse is just garbage through and through. Sloppy animation, poor writing, dumb dialog, it has it all.
Oh, I almost forgot about Coconut Fred, the terribly obvious Spongebob knockoff, only with LSD. Whatever WB executive came up with that idea deserves to get fired.
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Okay, you guys have to see more than ONE episode of Camp Lazlo before you understand it. It's a good show, and don't try to change my mind.
I like Spongebob, but lately I'm beginning to hate Danny Phantom. He's really lame.
Oh, and Kids Next Door SUCKS..................It's so stupid, I just can't............It's the worst show I've ever seen.
Aghh, I just keep coming up with things to say. SpongeBob really is losing it. I think he's coming apart, just like what Mr.Meele said.
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I'm with BirdPerson with Spongebob. The old ones were way better, and "arggh"was one of the best ones.
However I must say that Spogebob can't be a homosexual. He's asexual! They even say in an episode that he buds!
Spongebob being homosexual reallly gets on my nerves.
Also, Heffer on Rocko's Modern Life used to run around naked all of the time...but Rocko wasn't a homosexual.
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Oh, and Kids Next Door SUCKS..................It's so stupid, I just can't............It's the worst show I've ever seen
How and why? I think it's one of the most creative shows out there. It manages to parody some of the most cliched movie elements and still look like a an ordinary kid's show. Some of the action scenes are very well animated as well.
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Have you been living under a rock for the past few years Rob?Half the cartoons on television parody most movies.
Well the dumbest cartoon out there is the Fairly odd parents.I despise that show greatly!!!!
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My main vote was Spongebob. I've hated that show ever since it premiered, and hated it now. Here's why:
"I despise it because the music is bad (it just rubs me the wrong way), the jokes aren't funny (I've never laughed at any of the jokes in any of the episodes I've been forced to watch), and the characters (except for Patrick...he's fine) are poorly made (personality-wise, mostly). Also, sea sponges do not look like dish sponges.
It ties with Friends on my 'shows that are overrated that I'll never watch as long as I live' list."
As for that whole "Is Spongebob gay?" confusion, I honestly wouldn't care if he was or not. The cartoon's horrible, anyway, as I have said.
(Though, if Spongebob actually WAS a good cartoon, AND Spongebob was gay, I'd watch it, solely because it was actually a good cartoon.)
I pretty much just threw away my second vote to Danny Phantom, mainly because all cartoons on Nick are poorly made now.
As for the others:
Pokémon: Meh. I watched the earlier episodes, and stopped shortly after the Brock character left the show in the "Orange Islands" arc. Not a HORRIBLE cartoon, but I just felt I didn't have to watch it anymore.
Camp Lazlo: Never saw it.
Billy and Mandy: Much like Camp Lazlo, I've never watched it. I do know that Richard Horvitz voices Billy, and Richard Horvitz is an awesome person.
Codename: Kids Next Door: Again, never watched it.
"Japanese animes": LOLOLOL, the plural of anime is anime, and it's definitely not fair to just bunch all anime shows in existence all up as one choice.
Anime I do or did watch and enjoyed:
InuYasha, Cowboy Bebop, Trigun, Fooly Cooly, Lupin the 3rd, Detective Conan/Case Closed, and Pom Poko (though that was a movie).
Any other anime I don't watch, mainly because I either A) Have no time to or B) Am too lazy to actually watch TV as well.
And there you go. :D
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Case Closed was awesome. I haven't see it in a long while, though...
Adult Swim must've stopped showing it.
But, anyway, as far as Kid's Next Door goes, I hate the concept (a bunch of kids randomly beating on adults and teenagers) though I do love the art style.
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Invader Zim is the worst cartoon of all time. It is too mundane. I do, however, enjoy Spongebob.
Now this post may come off as me trying to smite Vidgmchtr, alas, it is not. I am only stating that I like Spongebob and hate Invader Zim.
Invader Zim freaked me out beyond belief. It wasn't funny. It was terrible. I had nightmares.
I do find the over-the-top humor of Spongebob to be hilarious. All the characters are bombastic. They highlight a type of person to the extreme. I look at it analytically. There is so much satire in that show, if you look for it.
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I heard once that the characters of Spongebob were supposed to represent the seven deadly sins...
Patrick - Gluttony
Mr. Krabs - Greed
Plankton - Wrath
Sandy - Pride
Squidward - Sloth?
Mrs. Puff - Envy
And as for Lust... Larry the Lobster? Or maybe Pearl? I don't know, these are just guesses.
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Invader Zim is the worst cartoon of all time. It is too mundane. I do, however, enjoy Spongebob.
Now this post may come off as me trying to smite Vidgmchtr, alas, it is not. I am only stating that I like Spongebob and hate Invader Zim.
Invader Zim freaked me out beyond belief. It wasn't funny. It was terrible. I had nightmares.
I do find the over-the-top humor of Spongebob to be hilarious. All the characters are bombastic. They highlight a type of person to the extreme. I look at it analytically. There is so much satire in that show, if you look for it.
Funny, I didn't even mention ZIM in my post, so I guess it IS an attempt to smite me. A very embarassing one. :P
Actually no I don't care. Hate ZIM and like Spongebob, fine. I'll do the opposite.
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Also, sea sponges do not look like dish sponges.
That's the joke. It's meant to be funny. But I don't blame you for hating the show.
Anyway, K.N.D is lame because every episode is about bratty children trying to beat up adults and teens. It's just stupid! Just when you think a teen or an adult might be friendly, they go like "Okay, we gotta destroy the Kids!" I just hate it!
I also despise Fairly Odd Parents. Over used jokes, annoying voices like Cosmo's...........why the heck is he always screaming? What does Wanda see in that guy? Any way, it's worse than K.N.D.I'm so sad because I haven't seen a great cartoon in so long. We need something ground breaking, like Xiaolin Showdown. That cartoons a blast to watch.
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Spongebob is the worst show to ever be created in the history of cartooning. I guess Stephen Hillenburg is truly gay, but I'm not sure.
I hate all shows I have listed. The top ones though were Danny Phantom and SBSP.
Billy and Mandy- Disgusting, Disterbing, sometimes Gory, Pointless, Cheesy Plots, need I go on?
Camp Lazlo- Almost as bad as Spongebob, but not quite. At least they're not gay. It also has cheesy plots, stupid voices, and bad sense of humor.
Spongebob- Geez, I already explained it. Gay, stupid, and childish.
Danny Phantom- Pointless and stupid.
K.N.D.- Wow, this is as NEARLY as bad as Spongebob. "Wow, I need to kill kids cause I'm an adult."
"I'm a kid, I'll kill you." "I'm dead, ow." Nice plot twist there...
Japanese Animes/Pokemon- Cheesy Plots, Pointless, and stupid.
I REALLY hate children's cartoons!
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I hate Japanese anime. I'd rather watch educational TV shows like Arthur or Dragon Tales than that crap. Like every show revolves around having magic or magic creatures, etc., etc. Pokemon was ok like in the beginning of the series but I think they've carried it long enough. That's the best I can descibe my hate.
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As far as this "Spongebob is gay" thing goes, let it be known that Patrick Star is not. He is officially in love with a mermaid. The movie defends this statement.
As for Spongebob, whatever, if you want to think that, go ahead.
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Spongebob is the worst show to ever be created in the history of cartooning. I guess Stephen Hillenburg is truly gay, but I'm not sure.
Here's the thing. Insult the show all you want, even though Spongebob repoduces by budding. But don't ever think that someone is gay just because he created a gay character. That's something I hate most of all: When some random person says the artist, who is just trying to make a living, is gay, retarded, ect. when he doesn't like the artist's character. I hate it.
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The idea behind Spongebob is that he is an optimistic person that is child-like in a good way. As for his sexuality, he is considered a kid and shouldn't like anything yet. At least in the old episode where Spongebob goes to Sandy's house for the first time, he brings flowers and blushes as he says, "It's me... Spongebob."
The fact that he raised a clam with Patrick and was the mother figure in one episode was meant to be a joke that would last through only one episode.
The episode where they strip and spray on invisible spray was not gay, but more a supposedly comical act of cartoon nudity.
The Fry Cook Games episode where Sponge and Pat hold hands and walk off together simply means they're friends again, and walking together peacefully emphasized how they mirrored Mr. Krabs and Plankton's relationship a second later, where they both yell and care not about each other but just the sake of winning.
If you don't like the show, by all means don't watch it. My personal favorite episodes are Karate Choppers, Pressure, Idiot Box, Squidville, Band Geeks, Wormy, Paper, and the Mermaid Man & Barnacle Boy episodes.
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Case Closed was awesome. I haven't see it in a long while, though...
Adult Swim must've stopped showing it.
That show was the best ever. I totally loved it! [Adult Swim] did stop showing it sadly enough though...
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Kids next door needs to die. It is that bad.
I voted for "other" in order to vote for 12 Ounce Mouse. It is quite posible to be called the worst of anything ever. It had no plot, It looks like crap, and no efort was put into any aspect of this. Whoever greenlit this should be eaten.
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That show was the best ever. I totally loved it! [Adult Swim] did stop showing it sadly enough though...
:(
Awwwww...those mysteries were way harder than Scooby Doo...
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Anyway, K.N.D is lame because every episode is about bratty children trying to beat up adults and teens. It's just stupid! Just when you think a teen or an adult might be friendly, they go like "Okay, we gotta destroy the Kids!" I just hate it!
Apparantly you haven't been paying attention. The adults and teenagers on the show that ever consider doing that are refered to as "supervillans". If fact, there are times when they express injustice towards the kids. Also, if you did pay any attention, the show contains a lot of analogies to real life. Some of it gets pretty serious.
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Invader Zim is the worst cartoon of all time.
I pity you.Invader ZIM is the BEST cartoon IMO.
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CTOAN's Least Favorites list:
1. Spongebob. Read my first post in this topic.
2. Kids Next Door. They're a bunch of 10-year-olds that think that adults and teens are evil, undeserving idiots that must die.
3. Camp Lazlo. The show is demented.
4. Danny Phantom. He's a guy that can turn into a ghost. That's proof that he's on drugs.
5. Billy and Mandy. It's too... weird. It's too unrealistic.
6. Pokemon. The first episodes were fun to watch... but now it's too predictable.
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The animation styles of 12 oz. Mouse and Tom Goes to the Mayor would both make for interesting cartoons if either one were even remotely funny.
The only good new cartoon on Adult Swim over the past couple years is Robot Chicken. I think the last new show that I liked on Adult Swim before Robot Chicken is (this may surprise some of you) Super Milk Chan. It was formulaic and unpredictable at the same time, somehow. Of course, I was one of sbout 4 people that liked it, so it wasn't on for very long.
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Robot Chicken is hit and miss with me, but I enjoy it in general.
I have, however, rather taking a liking to both Tom Goes to the Mayor and Venture Brothers. Aside from the Colbert Report, they're generally the only shows I bother to keep tabs on.
As for the poll, I haven't really watched any of those aside from Pokemon, and I haven't even seen that in a year or so.
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CTOAN's Least Favorites list:
1. Spongebob. Read my first post in this topic.
2. Kids Next Door. They're a bunch of 10-year-olds that think that adults and teens are evil, undeserving idiots that must die.
3. Camp Lazlo. The show is demented.
4. Danny Phantom. He's a guy that can turn into a ghost. That's proof that he's on drugs.
5. Billy and Mandy. It's too... weird. It's too unrealistic.
6. Pokemon. The first episodes were fun to watch... but now it's too predictable.
Sorry, but none of these reasons are legitamate. Except the one about Pokemon.
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I can't say I'm a fan of Spongebob. I liked it when I was younger, but I as I got a little bit older I just stopped watching it all together.
I've seen almost a full episode of Kid's Next Door, and I didn't like it at all. No big reason, I just don't.
My opinion is the same for Camp Lazlo.
As for Danny Phantom...I enjoyed it when I was a bit younger, but now I don't watch it anymore.
Billy and Mandy: No. Just no.
(edit) Anime: I really don't mind some of it. Shows that I enjoy are Case Closed, Fullmetal Alchemist, Lupin the 3rd, and Cowboy Bebop.
The only shows I'd ever try to watch on Cartoon Network come on on the [Adult Swim] block. And those shows include: Family Guy, Aqua Teen Hunger Force, Futurama, and Robot Chicken.
When it comes to Pokemon, I think the games are enjoyable, but the show just isn't good at all to me.
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See, the thing I don't like about Tom Goes to the Mayor is that it just seems... I don't know... too over-the-top? It's like it tries too hard to be ridiculous, and in doing so, misses the things that should make it funny. To me.
The Colbert Report is probably one of my favorite shows on TV right now. But that's for a different thread.
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Apparantly you haven't been paying attention. The adults and teenagers on the show that ever consider doing that are refered to as "supervillans". If fact, there are times when they express injustice towards the kids. Also, if you did pay any attention, the show contains a lot of analogies to real life. Some of it gets pretty serious.
Man, don't even try and get me to like it. The voices make it worse. Like, for example...................I saw this one episode where Number 4 or whatever his name is was singing "Bury in the sand." He just kept repeating it, with "Nehgh-Negh Negh"in the middle. It wasn't funny.
Well, I've seen Tom Goes to the Mayor, and I'm getting tired of poorly drawn animation. Aqua Teen Hunger Force was sorta like that, but at least it was funny as heck. I miss watching that show, darn it!
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I've seen a couple of Tom Goes to the Mayor, but only found one funny. It was the one where that one guy (Tom)? invents a T-shirt that says 'Rats off to you!' and the Mayor thinks it's like, really funny, so every time he sees the shirts he goes into this weird laughing fit, and...
*clears throat*...
yeah...
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I enjoy Tom Goes To The Mayor, but I agree with Insane Steve when it comes to the Colbert Report.
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Robot Chicken migt be the best cartoon right now. It is jammed packed with funny spoofs, great voice overs, and more.
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Some people think that Robot Chicken isn't a cartoon. It is because it is CLAY ANIMATION! That's a type of cartoon! God!
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No, Robot Chicken is Stop Motion animation. It only contains some claymation such as the Voltron Got Served skit which used both the real Voltron figure and a clay model for the dancing parts. It barely qualifies as a cartoon.
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A cartoon is when the characters are drawn and animated. Robot Chicken isn't drawn; they take action figures and move them around.
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Claymation = stop motion = not a cartoon.
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All you Pokemon fans, please pardon me for taking this one shot at Pokemon.
About the Pokemon TV Show...it was fun to watch back when I was a kid, but now it's become way too predictable. Ash Ketchum wins every badge, not because he's that good, because that's the only thing keeping the show going. I have to seriously wonder at Ash and co.'s brain capacities when they can't figure out that it's really Team Rocket behind those disguises for the millionth time. But, it's a recurring theme. Kind of like the recurring theme of unrequited love in Peanuts.
The football is always pulled away, Charlie Brown never gets valentines, (except for a used one) and the baseball team loses every game. But back to Pokemon...you think they would have the smarts to think back and say "hey, the last time people with unsightly disguises and even more unsightly hairstyles came up to us, they were Team Rocket in disguise.
That is the end of my superlong rant. Not dissing Pokemon as a whole, just the TV show for becoming a shadow of it's former self, in my opinion.
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Ah, shows based on video games are almost never good. Add that to the fact the it's a badly dubbed anime and you've got yourself a programming train wreck.
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Yeah, Pokemon is going BAD. Ash always gets a badge and Brock always loves Nurse Joy and Officer Jenny and Misty will always be a light-hearted girl and Pokemon will always say their names as "talking". That's way I hate anime, it's so predictable.
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Please base your generalizations off of more than one show.
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I once came up with the concept of the Appliance Alliance, where certain household appliances came to life to fight crime. But I only really liked the idea because of the title, and I never really developed it into anything, so it may as well be one of my dumbest cartoons.
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Yeah, Pokemon is going BAD. Ash always gets a badge and Brock always loves Nurse Joy and Officer Jenny and Misty will always be a light-hearted girl and Pokemon will always say their names as "talking". That's way I hate anime, it's so predictable.
Not all anime is like that you dummy. Here, read this.
http://themushroomkingdom.net/board/index.php?topic=9323.msg438367#msg438367
And this.
http://themushroomkingdom.net/board/index.php?topic=6984.msg366128#msg366128
Pokémon is not a good anime to base generalizations off of.
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lol, Markio's post reminded me of the "Brave little Toaster" Movies.
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Not all anime is like that you dummy. Here, read this.
http://themushroomkingdom.net/board/index.php?topic=9323.msg438367#msg438367
And this.
http://themushroomkingdom.net/board/index.php?topic=6984.msg366128#msg366128
Pokémon is not a good anime to base generalizations off of.
Do I have to fight with you again, and by the way, "Pokémon is not a good anime to base generalizations off of" is BS. We all have OPINIONS. Some people like Pokemon and some people hate Pokemon, and I hate Pokemon.
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Yes, you can have your opinions, but when you back it up with stupid reasons I have just enough right to tell you that I think your opinions are stupid, because that's MY opinion.
You can hate Pokémon fine, but when you say something as close-minded and ignorant and as stubborn as "All anime is predictable" just because of THAT ONE SHOW, I have to question your intelligence. :D
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Also, NB, do you hate everything about Pokemon because of the show? Or do you just hate the show itself? If you choose the former, I'll have to question your intellegence as well, because there's a lot more to Pokemon than just a crappily-dubbed anime.
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I hate all Pokemon stuff ever made.
STOP QUESTINONG MY INTELLIGENCE!!111!!!11
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I don't really like any of Pokemon, and it's not because of the show.
But yeah, the Pokemon show is about one of the worst things to judge the entirety of anime with. It isn't a good representation of the whole.
I like/hate how people call stating fiction as fact "opinions." Saying all anime is bad just because Pokemon is bad isn't an opinion, that's just bad reasoning.
I'm going to go ahead and question Nintendo Bros.' intelligence while I'm at it.
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Again, that is my opinion, but you don't have to question me or hate me just beacause I have bad fact opinions. Now I will hit Pikachu with a hammer.
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It isn't as if all anime is one show. There are lots of different series which can be good or bad, somewhat like American cartoons. How you cannot understand this is beyond me.
I feel that this post was unnecessary.
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I remember third grade, and getting so obsessed with the show that I would throw a tantrum if I didn't get right home from school to watch it I was such a jerk! I wish I could apologize to everyone I ever bothered because of that. Mostly my parents. At least by fourth grade, I distinctly remember not minding that I was missing episodes, because I was lying in the back of the car, and my mom said, "Don't you realize that you're missing Pokemon?" And I said, "Oh, I guess it doesn't matter that much anymore." What a dumb kid I was! At least I got emotional over things that don't deserve that much emotion, which was dumb. Dumb Dumb Dumb, I was. I'm sorry, this distasteful picture I am painting of myself must bother you.
Anyway, Pokemon the show is for younger children. You can tell by the sweet, sappy things they say all the time. If you're not a young child, you probably wouldn't be watching it. Of course, some adults prefer that childlike innocence cartoons...
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It isn't as if all anime is one show. There are lots of different series which can be good or bad, somewhat like American cartoons. How you cannot understand this is beyond me.
I feel that this post was unnecessary.
Okay, just stop fighting. Mind your own buisness. You are not running this poll, aren't you?
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I missed a fight?
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/me drops nunchaku and slumps away sadly
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I myself like anime. But not pokemon, It's too you know what. Anything else is not predictible.
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Fighting? My goodness, I didn't see a fight anywhere around these parts.
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Oh, he's just saying that because he knows he's been cornered. :)
I also know he didn't read ANY of the links I gave him before, because I know BOTH of them talk about it being okay to form opinions about anime but also say other stuff. He just skipped them as well as my post and just thinks I'm trying to fight him by telling me he could have his opinions.
So, now that I know I can't get through to him by linking to him stuff I now know he won't read, I must copy and paste excerpts of both of those posts in this post so the lazy stubborn ignorant childish Nintendo Bros. can finally see what I'm trying to tell him. :D
If you don't like anime that's fine but if you say "anime is horrible its just all magic and robots fighting and crap" try ACTUALLY WATCHING SOME ANIME THAT IS ACTUALLY GOOD before you can form an opinion on it.
Pokémon (the show) fits into that "crap" part.
It's amazing to me how someone can judge such a vast amount of animation and comics by a few poorly imported shows seen while channel surfing. Anime and manga is such a vast genre (if I dare use such a limiting word such as genre on it) Some are very good, some very bad, some mature, some immature, on all different kinds of subjects. Sci-fi, historical, fantasy, reality. Contrary to [your] belief, not all anime are about small monsters. Most, infact, completely lack small monsters.
So, you CAN not like anime, that's just fine. Just don't imply that you're an expert on the matter when basing generalizations off of JUST ONE SHOW that isn't that good.
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Oh, he's just saying that because he knows he's been cornered. :)
I also know he didn't read ANY of the links I gave him before, because I know BOTH of them talk about it being okay to form opinions about anime but also say other stuff. He just skipped them as well as my post and just thinks I'm trying to fight him by telling me he could have his opinions.
So, now that I know I can't get through to him by linking to him stuff I now know he won't read, I must copy and paste excerpts of both of those posts in this post so the lazy stubborn ignorant childish Nintendo Bros. can finally see what I'm trying to tell him. :D
Pokémon (the show) fits into that "crap" part.
So, you CAN not like anime, that's just fine. Just don't imply that you're an expert on the matter when basing generalizations off of JUST ONE SHOW that isn't that good.
You think this is funny, stupid [bundle of sticks]? I read the links you gave me, I JUST DON'T [censored] CARE! I don't like anime, is that so hard to except?!? By the way, for the person who aprt Animation Hater on my Avatar, I LKIE CARTOONS, BUT NOT ANIME, NOW STOP [URINATING] ME OFF!
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I was just thinking.... if anime is so diverse, why do they call it all anime?
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Swearing is not the way out of arguments in this board, Nintendo Bros. Oh, wait, I'm wrong. It's the way out of the board. I can't say I'll miss this conversation if that happens, though.
Anyway, my dumbest cartoon is probably the Armless Elf Cop. I could've done better voices...
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And the dynamite has exploded.
You think this is funny
Actually, now that I think about it, I do. :D
I read the links you gave me
I find that very hard to believe.
I don't like anime, is that so hard to except?!?
Again, SOLID CONCRETE PROOF that you did NOT read my post. I said you can dislike it if you wanted to. I "except" it just fine. :D
By the way, for the person who aprt Animation Hater on my Avatar, I LKIE CARTOONS, BUT NOT ANIME, NOW STOP ****ING ME OFF!
What a nice thing to say to a person who can ban you from the message board.
Now that you've finally blown up at me I can see that you ACTUALLY ARE the ignoramus I've thought of you to be when I first saw you coming here.
Oh, and I'm sure Sapphira would LOVE to see the harsh language you implied.
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Hehe, you won't have the CT "Animation hater" much longer if you talk to mods like that...
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I was just thinking.... if anime is so diverse, why do they call it all anime?
If books are so diverse, why do they call them all books?
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I watched Ed, Edd and Eddy once and it was infuriatingly pointless.
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I used to like Ed, Edd and Eddy.......but it really began to repeat itself after 20 episodes or so.
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Nintendo Bros., I can understand it if you want us to respect your opinions and all, but theres one thing that bothers me. You hate anime and stuff but you never actuallu stated why. It's one thing to not like something for a reason, but you gave no reason other than: "I hate it, now except my opinion". That's pretty ignorant.
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The the I learned from watching bits of Ed, Edd and Eddy is that quarters are worth, like, 10 million dollars each.
I don't much like that cartoon, either. Props to the person who brought it up in the discussion. So obscenely predictable.
Generally, swearing otu a moderator is not the best way to state a point you make. Just advice for the future.
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Nintendo Bros., I can understand it if you want us to respect your opinions and all, but theres one thing that bothers me. You hate anime and stuff but you never actuallu stated why. It's one thing to not like something for a reason, but you gave no reason other than: "I hate it, now except my opinion". That's pretty ignorant.
For the last time, I hate it beacuse it's so predictable.
There is one cartoon that iskinda a anime and that is The Boondocks.
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You hate Pokemon because it's predictable, right? Well so do I, but what about anime in general? You never said why you hated that.
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What is it that makes it predictable to you?
(BTW, the Boondocks was created in the U.S. It's not anime though it was drawn in a style that could make someone mistake it for anime.)
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Yeah... the logical fallacy is still there, that since Pokemon is predictable, therefore all anime is predictable, which is false.
I'll give you predictable, how about Scooby-Doo?
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Most formulaic cartoon ever.
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Scooby-Doo may be predictable, but at least it's "teaching" to not accept everything. In my opinion too many cartoons have ghosts, gods, devils, mythical creatures, etc. that are always accepted. A certain amount of suspension of disbelieve and fantasy are healthy, but many young kids don't know well enough to tell real from fantasy. I also hate it when educational videos, cartoon or otherwise, teach fantasy creatures like unicorns and/or company mascots along with real things. Maybe I'm being to harsh because of my soon to arrive daughter, but meh. I mean, after all, I do tell "stories". So take this post with a grain of salt, or for that matter, a whole life-size Tonka truck of Disney brand salt.
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Uh, Luigison, why does your CT say 'banned'? How can a mod get banned?
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Uh, Luigison, why does your CT say 'banned'? How can a mod get banned?
1. See my most recent post in the pointless topic. 2. I'm a story teller.
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I actually liked Ed, Edd & Eddy somewhat when I saw it one time. That was probably in large part because of Eddy's voice, though.
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Not all anime is predictable, Nintendo Bros. You're using Pokemon as a base to explain all of anime! Pokemon is a terrible anime. So what? Not all of anime is predictable!
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I'm surprised that Nintendo Bros. doesn't hate Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends. It would probably fit his description of a "bad show", although I happen to like it.
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Let's drop it, okay? My answer is I DON'T LIKE ANIME! Do you have to put up a stupid fight beacuse I said that?
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I'm surprised that Nintendo Bros. doesn't hate Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends. It would probably fit his description of a "bad show", although I happen to like it.
Finally! Someone who agrees with me. I happen to like that show also. At least it beats SSSP and Camp Lazlo And C:KND.
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I found out today that in the ending credits of Billy and Mandy, those backward voices translate...
http://bamb.ytmnd.com/
"No,No, this is the end of the show, you're watching it backwards."
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I DON'T LIKE ANIME!
Why not?
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ROWRRRRRRRRRRRR!
Okay, they are so predictable.
All the faces in every anime looks the same (i.e. The Eyes on Anime people)
Shows have cheesy plots.
Voices are so dumb.
If they are shocked or surprised or hurt, they go like, Uh...UhUh....AA..Uh
DON'T ASK ME AGAIN! DROP IT!
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Not all animes have those things which you listed. Especially not the original, un-dubbed ones. How any animes have you seen?
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All main characters in Naruto are colorful. They all look very different to me.
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Here's the anime I saw and I hate all of them:
Pokemon (Duh)
Yu-Gi-Oh
Eureka Seven
S-CRY-ED
IGPX
Cowboy Bebop
Samurai Champloo
Inuyasha
Ben 10 (Major Duh)
Aeonflux
Ultravoilet
Naurto
Avatar: The Last Dumbmaster lol
Astro Boy
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Well, nothing we say will change his mind, and I don't have a problem with it. There are just some people that don't like anime. It's okay.
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Erm...Ben10 is anime? I mean, I don't really like the show, but i don't think it is anime.
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Avatar isn't anime either. Sure, it was built to mimic anime, but anime is a cartoon that COMES FROM JAPAN.
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I will address your points, NB.
Pokemon (Duh) (VG animes suck.)
Yu-Gi-Oh (badly dubbed)
Eureka Seven (never heard of it)
S-CRY-ED
IGPX (not an anime. It's made to look like one and it's a pretty lame attempt.)
Cowboy Bebop (What was wrong with it?)
Samurai Champloo (You gotta be kidding me.)
Inuyasha
Ben 10 (Major Duh) (See what I wrote for IGPX.)
Aeonflux (This is an anime!?)
Ultravoilet (See Aeonflux.)
Naurto (The Japan one is better.)
Avatar: The Last Dumbmaster lol (See IGPX and Ben10.)
Astro Boy (WTD is wrong with you!? This is a classic!!)
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Naurto (The Japan one is better.)
Way better. I saw both the dub episode and undub of Kiba fighting Naruto today, and I didn't think it'd be so different. I'm just gonna stop watching the dub...........
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If you are going to make an action cartoon at least make it to where they fight EVIL or else you get Pokemon and Zatch Bell.If they didn't have all that Emotionamal crap then it would be BETTER.
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Yeah... how can you really even mistake Aeon Flux for an anime? I guess the art is partially influenced by anime style, but... blech.
Ultraviolet... as far as I can tell, isn't even animated.
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I really don't like any of them, with the exception of Billy and Mandy. The others are just sooo stooopid. Common am I right?
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Good thing NB mentioned the Dragon Ball series. I love that anime!!
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My family liked Dragon Ball series also. I'd watch Dragon Ball Z with one older brother sometimes, but I didn't like how they would make a whole episode just be two fighters facing each other for the longest time, doing nothing, until it gets to the end of the episode and it says "Next time, on Dragon Ball Z!", and it shows them actually move or interact in some physical way. Yeah, so I'm exaggerating. I also wish Vegeta would just come and kick Goku's butt. I liked all the characters but Goku. Don't ask me why, I don't know. At least the show itself is good, I think.
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Why would you not like Goku? he was so hilarous back in DB. so His innocence and not knowing about the world was what made him funny. Like in the first episodes where he meets bulma he says stuff like "i was just seeing if you had a tail." And "what's a bath?". But he lost his funny as he got older.
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You should see the Japanese DBZ. It's like a whole different show.
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I've only watched DBZ, where Goku laughs off everything and except when he fights and always wins. He's like Superman, he's unbeatable and boring. He was probably better in DBGT like you said, because he was just a kid then. My oldest brother used to watch that.
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Good thing NB mentioned the Dragon Ball series. I love that anime!!
I nevered mention DB!
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I remember that I used to watch Dragonball (not Z or GT) and it actaully entertained me. It was funny, and the characters did more than just fight. I tried watching Dragonball Z many times, but it was too boring. It was just two people throwing punhes and kicks while the other blocks. And then, of course, they would stop for a second in which one character would speak condescendingly to the other, and that guy would barely stand and groan like, "Uh...mhh...ah-ah-ah...-ah....uh..."
Haha, it was actually kind of funny.
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I like the episode where Blue and Goku go to Penguin Village and meet all the characters of Dr. Slump. Dragon Ball really was WAY better then the other two.
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These are sort of childish shows I do like:
Foster's
And that's praticlly it.
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I'm feelin' some negative vibes comin' on. I'm going to the Hopeful thread.
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Trust me,ALL Dragon Ball is good.
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PaperLuigi, did you get that 'negative vibes' thing from Funky in the DKC animated series? Because back when it was first aired, I'd watch it religeously. I loved it. Recently, I got a VHS of it with a bunch of episodes. I never noticed how horrible the writing and CG animation was. But I still love it, if only for adding some more personality to the characters and giving a actual premise other than 'get bananas back from lizard-men'. Some concpts used in the show were used in DK64, such as the Crystal Coconut, Cranky Kong being a chemist, Candy having a love of music and the neglect of Dixie as a major character(which I dislike). Makes me wish Captain Scury, Bluster Kong and Eddie the Yeti would be added to the games now.
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EDIT: My favorite line of Spongebob:
Patrick: "Oh...East? I thought you said.... weast."
(Mr. Krabs takes compass)
Mr. Krabs: "That's west, Patrick.... You're fired again."
I still find that joke funny!:)Ever since the movie, it just changed...but maybe thats just me.
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PaperLuigi, did you get that 'negative vibes' thing from Funky in the DKC animated series?
You bet that's where I got it! I have a few episodes and in one he says the negative vibes thing. You know, the pirate Scurvy walks in with his hand cannon?
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Did you read my whole post then? I like the premise of the show better than the premise of the games. I could make a comic adaptation of it, but I can't work the scanner. :(
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Oops, sorry! I didn't read your whole post. But I did get the "negative vibes" from the cartoon.
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oopsie. I meant "good thing NB DIDN'T Mention DB" sorry for the mistake!
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Zim shouldn't have gone off the air just because Whats-His-Name did another cartoon voice also.
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I have 3 seasons worth on DVD. I miss Zim, and it makes me so p***ed off that Fairly Odd Parents is still on while an awesome show like Zim is trashed.
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I heard he might come back in 2008.
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Zim shouldn't have gone off the air just because Whats-His-Name did another cartoon voice also.
ZIM was taken off because Nick didn't like the show. Though it did bring in ratings, they were not from the target audience.
Also add in the fact that Jhonen Vasquez (the creator) was getting annoyed/frustrated at the limitations and restrictions Nick put on the show.
He said, he MIGHT like to work on it again, provided he was given more freedom with it. (I'm sure you're aware his comics are quite gruesome and filled with dirty language.) Though, another key staff member, Steve Ressel (the director), said he does not want anything to do with that show, so the show returning is fairly unlikely.
What you said about someone doing another voice had nothing to do with the show's ending. I'm assuming you're talking about Richard Horvitz, who was pre-occupied in doing the voice of Daggett in Angry Beavers when ZIM was still in the developing stage. Nick said they didn't want someone to do the voices of 2 characters in different shows. That's why, in the unaired pilot, Billy West voiced ZIM. The Angry Beavers had ended, and they called him back in to voice ZIM (he had tried out for it earlier, obviously).
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Vasquez has some awesome t-shirts that I frequently buy at "Hot Topic." His art may be digusting, but it's fun, nonetheless.
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So!Any who knows how to complain to Nickelodien say I. Zim:Must....break.......out.....of....prison.......and.....destroy.......Nick!
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...No.
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don't try to defame Pokemon, some people here may get mad at you!
I'm agreeing with SushieBoy, I'm pretty ticked that anyone would consider Pokemon stupid.
I voted Spongebob and Other. Spongebob was the only one that I had seen and (c/w)ould call stupid.
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But's what's REALLY stupid is Billy and Mandy. Just way to gory, disgusting, and dumb for a Cartoon Network show. (Yay! Someone agreed with me!!)
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I'd say Zim was more "gory" and "disgusting" that Billy and Mandy. I don't think either of those shows are dumb, though.
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It's just that BaM is way to pointless, I don't consider Zim dumb, though.
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When you think about it, ALL shows are pointless. They're just there to kill time.
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DON'T YOU DARE SAY THAT! SHOWS HAVE A PURPOSE!!! AND A PORPOISE!!!
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Yes, and that purpose is for us to sit and watch them while we kill time.
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Well, that is a purpose. But it's not a porpoise. Please go find me a porpoise for the TV shows.
Run along now. Spit spot.
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I'm agreeing with SushieBoy, I'm pretty ticked that anyone would consider Pokemon stupid.
I voted Spongebob and Other. Spongebob was the only one that I had seen and (c/w)ould call stupid.
Sorry GG, but Spongebob is a WAY more intellegent show than Pokemon. Pokemon is the same thing over and over again, and quite frankly, it's driving me nuts.
Pokemon: 1. Ash and friends befriend some new Pokemon trainer.
2. Team Rocket tries to steal the Pokemon.
3. Pikachu does a thundershock and defeats TR.
4. Ash has a Pokemon battle and wins.
Spongebob is something different every time. Now I know I'm gonna get heck for this, but I'm sure if you guys would watch MORE than one episode of Spongebob, you'd see it would be funny at times. I can't see how someone could go an entire episode without at least laughing at something.
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Uh-Oh, you have angrered the dragon! (most likely)
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...No.
Don't you dare insult Zim.
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I never did!
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Vid did!(That rhimes!)
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Invader ZIM is faaaar from dumb.It is my favorite cartoon currently.
The fairly odd parents must and I repeat MUST die.
Kids Next door is the dumbest show on Cartoon network.
Fosters home for imaginary friends is garbage as far as I'm concerned.
I remeber this other show called chalk zone.Now THAT show is incredibly dumb.
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Fosters? Garbage?
Now I'm just going to pretend no one ever said that, although I will admit it's inferior to Mr. McCracken's other show, The Powerpuff Girls.
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Vid did!(That rhimes!)
I didn't. Invader ZIM is a favorite of mine. I insulted your less-than-intelligent post before, not ZIM. :P
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When you think about it, ALL shows are pointless. They're just there to kill time.
"When you think about it," some shows provide interesting food for thought and interesting points for thoughtful discussion. I render your statement invalid.
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...but I'm sure if you guys would watch MORE than one episode of Spongebob...
I did watch more than one. I have a valid opinion. And that's all my vote is, an opinion. I'm not telling Spongebob fans to stop watching it. I'm just saying that I don't like it. That's all.
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The old episodes of Spongebob were good, when Spongebob sounded more manly and the jokes were funny. Newer Spongebob episodes have a, dare I say it, girly-sounding Spongebob, there are no funny jokes, and everything they create nowadays has already been done! Spongebob= going down the pooper very fast.
Billy and Mandy= Again, the older episodes were better, but sometimes a good ole funny episode, like the recent "Be A-Fred, Be Very A-Fred," will pop up. It may be a little gory, and very random, but that's humorous to me. I just wish more episodes were like "The Keeper of the Reaper." Billy and Mandy= heading toward the pooper.
The Simpsons= One more time, the older episodes were hilarious, the newer ones aren't getting any better. The Simpsons have lost that special something that makes it funny to watch and spit Coca-Cola out of your nose. It's sad to see such a brilliant show go down the pooper after all of these happy years. The Simpsons= going down the pooper.
Squirrel Boy= Come on. Just come on.
Overall, I think a lot of today's cartoons that were once very popular are, as I've put, "going down the pooper." It seems if the writers would stick to what they used to make so well instead of changing everything good about the show, then many of today's cartoons wouldn't be rolling down the never-ending hill of bad ideas. I'm afraid I can't really enjoy many cartoons these days as I used to be able to. *Mr.Melee watches some Space Ghost Coast to Coast episodes and Dexter's Laboratory episodes*
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Invader ZIM is faaaar from dumb.It is my favorite cartoon currently.
The fairly odd parents must and I repeat MUST die.
Kids Next door is the dumbest show on Cartoon network.
Fosters home for imaginary friends is garbage as far as I'm concerned.
I remeber this other show called chalk zone.Now THAT show is incredibly dumb.
First off, Squirrel Boy, My Gym Parnters a Monkey and Camp Lazlo are all dumber than KND. Second, Fosters is one of the last good shows left on CN. Third, don't diss Chalk Zone. It was a lot better than what's on these days. I was actually able to relate to the main character of that show and it inspired me to continue drawing(like most of the cartoons of those days).
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Chalk Zone was fun to watch, but not particularly funny.
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The simpsons is NOT going down the pooper, Simpsons Movie? anyone?
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Chalk Zone was fun to watch, but not particularly funny.
Proof that cartoons don't have to be funny in order to be considered good. I thought that it was one of the most creative shows out there.
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The animation was awesome. At times it was hilarious, but for the most part, the art was what really made it come alive.
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We've gone horribly off-topic. There should be a cartoon thread where we could discuss cartoons.
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The simpsons is NOT going down the pooper, Simpsons Movie? anyone?
The Simpsons have gone downhill. The writing team has run out of ideas and pretty much recycle anything they've already written only they replace which character it's about then run their gags to the ground. The guest star of the week gimmick became old fast when they do absolutely nothing to further the story. They've taken the traits of old characters and exagerated them. For example, in seasons 1-7, Ned Flanders was a religous family man who happened to have a lot of good luck because he was considered a good person. Ever since Maude was kiled off, Flanders has become an religous nut who considers all other religions blasphemy and finds practically everything to be satanic. Homer was a working family man who tried his best to raise his family but would ultimately screw up in the end, though most forgave him. Now his just a easily angered idiot who tries get- rich-quick schemes every week but is foiled in the end. Bart is now a stripped down version of the South Park kids all in one. Plus, Lisa is starting to get most of the focus in all the episodes, essentially making her the star and the "Arnold" of the show.
The movie is the needle that'll finally put this old dog to rest. Hopefully with the old staff returning it won't be a complete embarassment to the golden years of the show.
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i have to admit, they have been running out of ideas, mabye that's just because they made 300 plus episodes of good ideas. And now, there is nothing left. Seasons 1-8 were the best.
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Thak god that never happened with The Flintstones. Though it went sort of overboard with the liv-action movie and everything years after the show ended. I wonder if that'll happen wit The Simpsons.
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I'm not sure if it's even possible to do a live-actions Simpsons. You'd have a girl with spiked blonde hair and a red lampshade on, and a mother with tall blue hair.
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Besides, all their hairstyles would look horrible. Mabye not Homer's.
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But it would be kinda hard to get Homer's oval-shaped head...
but we are waaaaaaay off topic here. Seriously, we should create a cartoon discussion topic insted of the two different topics that are here now. I would, but I'm really not that great at creating new topics considering I don't do it that much.
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I'll do it, then.