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Title: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Nintendoobsessed on August 04, 2008, 01:55:14 PM
Pokemon Channel, I must say.

Anyone played E.T., WITHOUT a ROM?
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Post by: Turtlekid1 on August 04, 2008, 02:08:41 PM
Probably Teen Titans.
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Post by: Lizard Dude on August 04, 2008, 02:08:50 PM
Recently my vote definitely goes to Eternity's Child, which WarpWrattler tricked me into buying. Besides being a totally bad game, it didn't even give me the Purchased Game achievement.
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Post by: penguinwizard on August 04, 2008, 02:23:16 PM
I tried the Bebe's Kids ROM just to see what the "worst game of all time" was like... and yeah, pretty bad.

Worst game I've played that was not a ROM... either Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles for NES or Monster Party for NES. Both games are extremely hard. But Monster Party for NES, I only got to the second level like once or twice in my life. You'd have to have cat-like responses and a lot of luck to get through that game, I tell ya. And I remember full well that sometimes it seemed like you couldn't dodge bosses as they moved towards you. It's like you needed to be Bert the flying gryphon thing during bosses to stand a chance. As for Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles... do you remember at the end of like the first level for the second world (looked like an office complex or something) that you had to jump across a large gap or else fall down to the spot at the beginning of the level? It took me forever to finally jump that gap, had to jump at the last possible second. Actually, I remember you had to jump at the last possible second to clear the gap for the first level in Comix Zone too. Couldn't get past the second level of Comix Zone either, but at least it had an awesome style to it.

Actually, no, Dino Riki for the NES was the absolute worst game I've ever played. It wasn't fun, it was very cheap, never got past the first level. So it was slightly worse than Monster Party. Monster Party at least had a cool but creepy box cover. Dino Riki's cover was just terrible.

So, any game that I couldn't get past the first or second level on gets my vote for worst game of all time. I know there are people who appreciated this insane level of difficulty, but I can't believe in hindsight that the NES was home to such difficult games. How did people all over the world build up the nerves of steel to get through those games? Sheesh, no wonder we complain about lack of difficulty nowadays, because the difficulty is no longer at superhuman levels.

Oh, for the record, I might say sometimes that Snake Rattle N Roll was one of the worst games of all time, but it's not compared to my other choices. I got to the 5th level of Snake Rattle N Roll when I was a child, and managed to get to the 6th later on in life. Then with heavy use of save states, eventually beat all 10 levels. The gameplay was always your biggest enemy in that game. But I liked that game nonetheless.
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Post by: N64 Chick on August 04, 2008, 02:32:42 PM
Bart VS the Space Mutants for the NES. Anyone that has seen AVGN's Simpsons video should know all about it. And yes, I did own it.
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Post by: BP on August 04, 2008, 02:35:44 PM
Nascar '99 for the Nintendo 64. What makes Mario Kart worth playing is the unrealistic parts--the items, the track designs/effects, etc. And what makes F-Zero worth playing is again the unrealistic parts--the intense speed, the adrenaline rush of being this close to exploding, the track designs/effects, etc.

Nascar '99 was pure. Realistic. Failure. The tracks were more boring than the roads around my house, and the game was even slower than Mario Kart if I remember correctly. Then there's the drawling announcers with unvarying clips such as "It's still anyone's race" when you're in last place, lapped at least once by every other racer. But that's just the realism of the gameplay--the graphics weren't even good!

I'm sure if I played more video games that attempted to recreate sports I'd find one I like even less. I've never liked the idea of playing games like that and Nascar '99 reinforced that.
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Post by: Glorb on August 04, 2008, 02:48:29 PM
Resident Evil 4. I mean, you can't strafe or anything.

Lawl, but srsly though, I'd have to say the worst that I can recall is Crime Life: Gang Wars. Obviously the developers were angry that they couldn't successfully recreate GTA:SA with a $15 budget, so they flew into a rage and beat this game up with an ugly stick.
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Post by: N64 Chick on August 04, 2008, 02:52:11 PM
Speaking of N64 racing games and perhaps I should've mentioned an N64 game in the first place because of my name, let me say this. My father, being a huge fan of Legos, got Lego Racers for the N64. We played it twice...then never touched it again.
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Post by: MushroomJunkie on August 04, 2008, 03:43:21 PM
The stupidest and most boring game I've ever played is The Little Mermaid 2 Pinball.  For the gameboy color.

The game I hate the most is all the Grand Theft Auto games.  I seriously hate those games to it's core.
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Post by: BP on August 04, 2008, 04:20:13 PM
Why, Mr. Thompson?
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Post by: WarpRattler on August 04, 2008, 05:41:54 PM
Right now I'm in agreement with LD. I blame Sunbun.
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Post by: -IceColdApplePretzel- on August 04, 2008, 05:57:04 PM
Obviously Superman 64. Worst 10 bucks I ever spent on a game.
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Post by: Chupperson Weird on August 04, 2008, 06:21:02 PM
Transformers: Mystery of Convoy is pretty awful. It's not even possible to beat the final level.
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Post by: The Chef on August 04, 2008, 06:51:57 PM
Home Alone for the SNES.
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Post by: MEGAߥTE on August 04, 2008, 08:11:23 PM
Either Toys for SNES or To the Earth for NES.  Terrible, terrible games.
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Post by: Robert on August 04, 2008, 09:08:53 PM
Sonic and the Secret Rings.

I know Sonic is a rebel, but does that 'tude have to stem forth into the controls? The levels were too long and tedious. Thus, they didn't compell me like the levels in SA2 (the Racing ones, anyway). I just didn't have fun with the game.

Please don't kill me!
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Post by: Markio on August 05, 2008, 09:19:46 AM
I'd have to say, the game that is life.

But seriously, Sonic the Hedgehog Genesis was ruined because of all the slow-downs.  And the music isn't as good as the original.
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Post by: Zarkanthesmasher on August 05, 2008, 11:33:53 AM
Don't really know, considering that I constantly try to NOT purchase games that get poor reviews. Overall though, I think it would be Donkey Kong 64. Granted, it isn't a REALLY BAD game, but the camera system is so horible that it make it a lot less fun that it could have been. I sincerely hope that the new version rumored to be in development for the Wii will be a lot better. >_>

Speaking of N64 racing games and perhaps I should've mentioned an N64 game in the first place because of my name, let me say this. My father, being a huge fan of Legos, got Lego Racers for the N64. We played it twice...then never touched it again.

While the N64 version of that game was pretty bad, the PC version actually wasn't half bad for a kids game (I played it a lot when I was 10). The main problem was that the car building feature - which was the main draw - was ruined on the N64. Regardless, the PC version is a lot better than a lot of the liscensed crud that we've gotten over the last decade, IMO.
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Post by: ShadowBrain on August 06, 2008, 09:11:52 AM
Well, who's to say, but here's some contenders (I think there was a thread like this elsewhere, but no biggie):

-720 (NES)
-Secret of Evermore
-Wii Play
-Mario Kart Wii

Oh, there's more.
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Post by: Silver Metaknight on August 06, 2008, 09:56:17 AM
Mario Pinball Land:  Way too frustrating to get anything done in that game. 

Sonic and the Secret Rings:  I dislike the controls and the linearity of the game.  I also detest ranking systems, like you get a gold or silver depending on the score or whatever.

Yoshi Topsy Turvy:  The controls feel broken and the screen covers too little, so you never know if you're going to wander into a spiked pit or not.  It also has that awful ranking system.

Mario Party 5:  The worst Mario Party.  Its luck factor is dangerously high, and the mini-games are some of the worst in the series.  And the boards are really bland too.
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Post by: Glorb on August 06, 2008, 03:08:02 PM
-Wii Play
-Mario Kart Wii

QFMT.
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Post by: BP on August 06, 2008, 03:31:57 PM
For a ten-dollar game, Wii Play is pretty good.
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Post by: Glorb on August 06, 2008, 03:36:06 PM
For a ten-dollar plastic disc, Wii Play is pretty good.

Fixed.

I will not tolerate opinions contrary to mine.
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Post by: N64 Chick on August 06, 2008, 04:15:51 PM
Mario Party 5:  The worst Mario Party.  Its luck factor is dangerously high, and the mini-games are some of the worst in the series.  And the boards are really bland too.

I thought so too. However, I will admit that there were two things I liked. Card Party and Super Duel Mode.
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Post by: ShadowBrain on August 06, 2008, 07:21:52 PM
Super Duel mode is that game's saving grace.

Oh, and WarioWare: Touched kind of blew, too, but that was the disappointment factor more than anything else (Nintendo "minigame machine" DS, and they can only come up with 21 microgames for each person?).
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Post by: CrossEyed7 on August 06, 2008, 07:27:21 PM
I like the Paper Mario references in MP5.
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Post by: ShadowBrain on August 06, 2008, 07:30:35 PM
When was that, again? Oh, yeah, the Stars...
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Post by: GiftedGirl on August 08, 2008, 10:07:46 PM
Worst game I've ever played, hmm? I'd have to say that just about any movie/show-based game that has basically the same plot as the movie/show(like, would not be counted as a sequel/spinoff of the movie/show) qualifies. But the worst has to be WinX Club for GBA. Why? Because I BEAT IT MULTIPLE TIMES WITHIN THE COURSE OF A MONTH. AND THEN IT GLITCHED SEVERELY(example being activating a save point doing minor damage then relocating Bloom[the playable character] to a normally unreachable location in the current area). Any game that I can beat multiple times within such a short amount of time is too easy, because I don't have that kind of skill normally. And glitches like that?! Trash can plz.
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Post by: ShadowBrain on August 08, 2008, 11:58:36 PM
I can probably count on one hand the number of current-gen Nintendo games I couldn't beat multiple times in the course of a month--and most of them last-gen ports.
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Post by: Turtlekid1 on August 09, 2008, 07:14:58 AM
I could beat Subspace Emissary at least twice in one month and SMG at least three times if I felt like it, but I don't want to exercise the patience it would require.
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Post by: Koopaslaya on August 09, 2008, 08:18:50 AM
Pesterminator. NES. Awful. Atrocious. Horrid.

The following YouTube video will capture the horrors contained within Pesterminator. WARNING: It's hilarious, but it does, at times, use inappropriate language and disgusting linguistic imagery concerning Rosie O'Donnell. I give this an R rating. If you are a child or a squeamish adult, please don't watch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5IuD_LCzfo
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Post by: Crazee on August 09, 2008, 03:26:41 PM
The worst real game I've played? That's hard to say. Probably Sonic Labrynth. I mean, let's take a character known for speed and personality...take away both...ansd create a game entirely focused on walking around and spindashing. And walking slowly, for that matter. It's like Sonic 3D Blast, except without the great music and clever level design. And any fun factor at all.

 The worst pirate game? Sonic 7! LOL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJXzCyIs3WA

 Nice to find someone else that didn't like Donkey Kong 64. I couldn't overcome the camera or the overcomplicated controls. It just felt cumbersome.

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Post by: lanthus on August 10, 2008, 02:33:16 AM
My worst game(s)? Cool world... Aka an acid trip in pixel form.  Then e.t. And finaly demon's crest (devil mario bros)
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Post by: ShadowBrain on August 10, 2008, 07:47:30 AM
Cool World... wasn't that a Who Framed Roger Rabbit?-style movie from the eighties?
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Post by: Bigluigifan1.0 on August 10, 2008, 10:19:19 AM
Cool World was made in 1992.

I can't say it beats Who Framed Roger Rabbit. It's nothing like WFRR though. The plot line was interesting... I'll leave finding that out to you.
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Post by: Pt_Peach on August 11, 2008, 01:48:26 AM
A lot of the games that Disney put out for the GBA (aka pointless games that young children would buy and did buy) were pretty awful. The That's So Raven, Suite Life of Zach and Cody, and TLizzie McGuire games, just to name a few, left me wondering who would want to play those games.
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Post by: ShadowBrain on August 11, 2008, 07:32:26 AM
Well, those pretty much go without saying.

The plot line was interesting... I'll leave finding that out to you.
Oh, believe me, I know.
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Post by: Turtlekid1 on August 11, 2008, 07:10:53 PM
A lot of the games that Disney put out for the GBA (aka pointless games that young children would buy and did buy) were pretty awful. The That's So Raven, Suite Life of Zach and Cody, and TLizzie McGuire games, just to name a few, left me wondering who would want to play those games.

But surely not the Hannah Montana games!?
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Post by: CrossEyed7 on August 11, 2008, 08:25:45 PM
Is Hannah Montana related to Betty Spaghetti?
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Post by: Pt_Peach on August 11, 2008, 09:42:04 PM
But surely not the Hannah Montana games!?

Well, I've never played one on the GBA (although I'm sure they're just as bad).
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Post by: Turtlekid1 on August 12, 2008, 06:54:17 AM
Oh, and I just noticed that you spelled "Zack" wrong in that last post.
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Post by: MushroomJunkie on August 12, 2008, 10:07:27 AM
I thought that Sonic and the Secret Rings was pretty good.  I liked everything except the setting.  I thought that Sonic in the book "The Arabian Nights" wasn't very good because that book has to do with planet earth and nothing to do with Mobius.  I also didn't like that everyone he knew was someone from the book arabian nights like Knuckles being Sinbad and all.  But other than that I thought the gameplay, controls, graphics, and levels were all really good.
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Post by: Glorb on August 12, 2008, 12:07:00 PM
Sonic could be an ancient alien werewolf knight Sinbad time-traveling transforming shape-shifting half-robot ghost mercenary with a gritty attitude, a post-apocalyptic story set in real-world Earth with zombies, and a human kid in a flying wheelchair as his sidekick in the next game for all I care; as long as it's a 2D sidescroller with skippable cutscenes and a story that has no bearing on the gameplay, I ain't touching it.
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Post by: ShadowBrain on August 12, 2008, 12:19:51 PM
Are you sure you worded that right?
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Post by: Glorb on August 12, 2008, 12:23:46 PM
Doesn't matter; Sega's probably looking at my post and implementing my ideas as we speak.
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Post by: penguinwizard on August 12, 2008, 01:14:32 PM
So far that's the longest description of a new Sonic that I've seen.

I never quite understood the hatred (ok, IGN's hatred) over the Cruis'n USA series. Yeah, the Cruis'n racing games are shallow and I have a theory that you'd have to be an actual race car driver to ever get 1st place in any arcade racing game (either that or there's some hidden nitro function in the game I'm not aware of), but at least you could get 10, maybe 15 minutes of enjoyment out of racing around. And I liked a few of Cruis'n USA's songs, particularly the Redwood whatever track. All I'm trying to say is, IGN claims Cruis'n is one of the worst racing game series out there, but I don't think it's bottom of the barrel material. Archaic yes, I wouldn't touch it with a ten-foot pole yeah, but not eye-gougingly bad.

I recently took a look at Rally Challenge 2000 for N64 again. Terrible game, but in that "so bad it's good" category. I like the pathetic announcer ("EA-sy right!!", "Caution!" when going over mud or a small bump, and the opening saying "3... 2... 1... GO! Go go go!" He actually says go go go!) and the surprisingly rockin' music when selecting cars in two-player mode.
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Post by: MushroomJunkie on August 12, 2008, 01:57:38 PM
I see you feel very stronly against Sonic glorb, with much hatred in your heart.  Why is this?
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Post by: N64 Chick on August 12, 2008, 02:16:19 PM
Dude, my mom and I like Cruis'n World. Heck, it's pretty much the only thing I can get her to play (besides SMBDX for the GBC, but that's another story). Being able to do flips off ramps and sometimes the other cars is just fun. Cruis'n USA is rather lacking though and I've never played Cruis'n Exotica so I've got nothing else to say on the matter.
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Post by: Glorb on August 12, 2008, 02:42:41 PM
I see you feel very stronly against Sonic glorb, with much hatred in your heart.  Why is this?

I feel strongly against current Sonic, as do lots of people. Sega feels that, to keep Sonic relevent, they need to add in guns and King Arthur and Arabian Nights and werewolves and gross hedgehog-human relationships and other crap to keep people interested. Obviously, it's not working. At the very least, if Sega's going to add all that, they should keep it in cutscenes only and never speak of it during gameplay. I mean, if you're racing through a giant collapsing castle, for example, who cares if Medieval Eggman built it as a secret lab to grow the werewolf virus? IT'S COLLAPSING ON YOU.
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Post by: MushroomJunkie on August 12, 2008, 03:43:11 PM
I see.  I don't like when they make games that divert the attention from the story too.
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Post by: Turtlekid1 on August 12, 2008, 05:46:17 PM
You don't like Mario!?
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Post by: Shyguy92 on August 12, 2008, 05:53:59 PM
You don't like Super Mario Sunshine!?
fix'd
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Post by: Turtlekid1 on August 12, 2008, 05:55:21 PM
Heh.  One of the few good fixes I've seen in a while.
Outside "Bork'd", anyway...
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Post by: nensondubois on August 12, 2008, 06:37:14 PM
There are so many bad games I've played.
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Post by: ShadowBrain on August 12, 2008, 06:53:39 PM
I feel strongly against current Sonic, as do lots of people. Sega feels that, to keep Sonic relevent, they need to add in guns and King Arthur and Arabian Nights and werewolves and gross hedgehog-human relationships and other crap to keep people interested.
Sometimes I swear that the heads and employees of Sega and Sonic Team are all living inside some kind of The Truman Show-style dome, wherein all is as the real world, except there's no such thing as consumer feedback on Sonic games. Seriously, one of their people just now admitted in an interview that the last few Sonic games weren't that good.
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Post by: MushroomJunkie on August 13, 2008, 06:23:45 AM
I should correct myself.  I don't like when they make games that put the characters in "real world" instances.  Like Mario & Sonic Olimpic Games or Sonic and the secret rings (although I did think that game was pretty good).  Or games like the new Soul Calibur is it? Where they have the star wars characters in the game as well!  I like every single mario game I have ever played so far (except for strikers and olimpic games which actually wasn't just mario) whether or not it goes with the mario story but if they start putting mario in stuff like the lord of the rings books (just using that one) or sould calibur then I wont like it.  I wonder if this is a feeling glorb has aswell.
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Post by: Glorb on August 13, 2008, 01:43:09 PM
As bizarre as SW in SC is, I think that it's handled pretty well, especially since they're playing it totally straight, as if it makes total sense to have Vader and Yoda fighting Tira and Ivy and that one gross dude wearing S&M gear. You have to admire that kind of ridiculousness.
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Post by: ShadowBrain on August 13, 2008, 10:25:49 PM
How, exactly, was it decided that they would be in the games in the first place? "The series is stagnating... what should we do!? Oh, I know: STAR WARS!"

Actually, that's totally the solution to everything in life. Just throw in Darth Vader and you get instant pwnage.
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Post by: penguinwizard on August 14, 2008, 01:12:37 PM
How, exactly, was it decided that they would be in the games in the first place? "The series is stagnating... what should we do!? Oh, I know: STAR WARS!"

Actually, that's totally the solution to everything in life. Just throw in Darth Vader and you get instant pwnage.
Well, I myself wondered how Link got into a Soul Calibur game. I guess that's no longer strange since Mario characters made cameos in sports games that weren't their own, but given Smash Bros. popularity I expect Nintendo characters to stay in one fighting franchise. I wouldn't expect Link to appear in Mortal Kombat for instance. *imagines Link yelling and holding a severed head, fails*

I guess the other reason I find seeing Star Wars in different games odd is because of the odd license crossover. I expect Darth Vader in a Star Wars game, not Cooking Mama (that hasn't happened yet, but one day it will. "I find your lack of cooking talent disturbing."). Sometimes license crossovers work against all odds, like Final Fantasy and Disney in "Kingdom Hearts", but other times... just gives me the jibblies. Samus in Super Mario RPG is a cool cameo, but I wouldn't want to see her as an ally. For one reason, she'd blast away any boss immediately with a few well-placed Super Missiles.
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Post by: The Chef on August 15, 2008, 07:17:51 AM
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I wouldn't expect Link to appear in Mortal Kombat for instance. *imagines Link yelling and holding a severed head, fails*

Well... I'll bet you didn't expect to see Superman and Batman in Mortal Kombat, but look what happened there...
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Post by: Turtlekid1 on August 15, 2008, 02:03:56 PM
Well, I would never expect the good (silver age) Superman in MK, but current Superman is weak enough that it won't unbalance the game.
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Post by: Zarkanthesmasher on August 15, 2008, 02:22:32 PM
I hate Superman - he's possibly one of the most shallow superheroes ever created. "Look! He's all powerful, except for one little weakness that he always falls for every time his arch-enemy uses it! And look! He's dying, but now he's lifting the island into outer space, but now he's dying again, and he's dead, but wait he's not really dead he's just fine! SUPERMAN LIVES!"

Oh, and I also hate Soul Calibur. The only reason that the series has lasted so long is that it preys on two common male fetishes: Anime/pop culture guest star characters, and ridiculously exaggerated female fighters.
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Post by: ShadowBrain on August 15, 2008, 02:34:04 PM
I hate Superman - he's possibly one of the most shallow superheroes ever created.
Well, he was technically the first superhero ever, so you can cut him some slack for that, at least. The only reason he's still around is sheer nostalgia.

Oh, and I also hate Soul Calibur. The only reason that the series has lasted so long is that it preys on two common male fetishes: Anime/pop culture guest star characters, and ridiculously exaggerated female fighters.
It's people like you that threaten to make the world a cold, lonely place...
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Post by: Lizard Dude on August 15, 2008, 02:35:10 PM
Nope.

Soulcalibur is popular because

A) For n00bs, button-mashing produces cool looking stuff, unlike say Street Fighter II where you'll just hop around doing repetitive little attacks. I mean, just look at any Soulcalibur grab.

B) For non-n00bs, it's a really fun fighting system. It's not brutally complex like Tekken, but still a lot more elegant than, say, Smash Bros. or Mortal Kombat.

C) To some extent, graphics. Soulcalibur looked extremely good when it came out.
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Post by: MushroomJunkie on August 15, 2008, 02:41:46 PM
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The only reason that the series has lasted so long is that it preys on two common male fetishes: Anime/pop culture guest star characters, and ridiculously exaggerated female fighters.

If your looking for some exaggerated female fighters, play the Dead or Alive fighting games.
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Post by: ShadowBrain on August 15, 2008, 02:45:06 PM
The DoA girls are alright, but I think they're a little overrated. Maybe it's just because I'm American and I'm conditioned to think huge racks look better on white chicks... Hey, I'm just throwing that out there. Don't anybody get on my case just yet.
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Post by: TotakaK on August 15, 2008, 03:44:16 PM
I hated Reservoir Dogs because I loved the movie. It's the same situation as Mario, but backwards.
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Post by: Zarkanthesmasher on August 15, 2008, 06:27:13 PM
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If your looking for some exaggerated female fighters, play the Dead or Alive fighting games.

I don't really think even they - or anyone else for that matter - can top the latest version of Ivy in SC IV. And I don't think you can reasonably say that they do this kind of thing for no reason. No, they do it because male gamers love it - although you're right that DOA does it as well.

And as for the guest star characters, if they wanted to actually put Darth Vader and Yoda into the game for more reasons than "just to boost the game with popular culture characters," then they wouldn't have made both SO overpowered. Online play aparrently is ruined because noobs always play as Yoda and almost always win.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Glorb on August 15, 2008, 07:03:59 PM
I half-expect Ivy to be both naked and have boobs bigger than her entire upper body in SC5. She's gone from having Lara Croft-sized boobs with a slightly revealing top to size quadruple-D ones with what is essentially dental floss. It's at the point where it's almost ceased being hot and become kinda...scary.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: justinlikeschips on August 15, 2008, 08:11:15 PM
i would have to say mario i think mario and luigi are going out or something but my friend is going out with peach but i like mario kart but any other mario games are uhh...yeah...
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Toad on August 15, 2008, 08:45:23 PM
Petz Horsez 2! Nicky picked this one out when I took back Mario & Sonic Olympics. The main girl character looks like Barbie, and the story was weak at best. Yes, the ranch was in trouble, and yes, "Barbie" had to do several races against the evil guys that own most of the town, but that's no reason to make the story as weak as it was.

It was most obviously a game for young girl gamers, though I must say that the washing of the horses' stall (and general horse maintence) were nicely done, with Wii controls.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: CrossEyed7 on August 15, 2008, 08:56:03 PM
That really says something about a game when the best part of it is cleaning up horse crap.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Lizard Dude on August 15, 2008, 09:01:04 PM
And as for the guest star characters, if they wanted to actually put Darth Vader and Yoda into the game for more reasons than "just to boost the game with popular culture characters," then they wouldn't have made both SO overpowered. Online play aparrently is ruined because noobs always play as Yoda and almost always win.
I think you're listening to n00bs screaming about more n00bs. Yodas are pretty rare and I can't remember ever losing to one. He seems really cheap because you can't grab him and he's short like Oddjob but he's totally easy to hit during his jumpy moves.

(I've only played Ranked Matches. I guess Yodas could be overrunning Player Matches or something but... who cares about those? And I still wouldn't lose.)
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: ShadowBrain on August 15, 2008, 09:30:17 PM
I half-expect Ivy to be both naked and have boobs bigger than her entire upper body in SC5. She's gone from having Lara Croft-sized boobs with a slightly revealing top to size quadruple-D ones with what is essentially dental floss. It's at the point where it's almost ceased being hot and become kinda...scary.
If you look at the SC3 art, they actually look bigger--or least more pointy/oval-ly. To be honest, the only reason I would want to see them even bigger is just out of sheer morbid curiousity over how long this... progression can go on before someone at Namco says, "alright, that's enough!" It's like one of those reality TV shows with the endurance contests: It's somewhat disgusting to watch, but you just can't stop because you can't wait to see when they will.

Then again, maybe it was the SC2 art. Guess I'll just have to look at them again and again to be sure...
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Turtlekid1 on August 16, 2008, 06:46:46 AM
It's like one of those reality TV shows with the endurance contests

"Hurl", anyone?
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Glorb on August 16, 2008, 09:20:26 AM
he's short like Oddjob

I don't quite remember Oddjob being that short...
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Nintendoverlord on August 16, 2008, 12:31:44 PM
If your looking for some exaggerated female fighters, play the Dead or Alive fighting games.

Lol, Dead or Alive is where boob jokes are born.

Hmm, Top Gun 2 for the NES was pretty bad. And yes, I actually had it up until a few months ago when I sold it. I didn't just take it from the Angry Video Game Nerd.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Insane Steve on August 16, 2008, 06:37:21 PM
It's funny, I'm actually, right now, compiling a list of reviews called "100 Nintendo Games Worse Than Deadly Towers". So, I've been playing a lot of bad NES ROMs to add to this list. It's been fun.

Not posting it here, though. It's really, really profane.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: N64 Chick on August 16, 2008, 07:02:17 PM
That list sounds interesting. Sadly (or not), I've never played Deadly Towers, but any game where it looks like the character is shooting swords out of their crotch must be...messed up...
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Glitchy on August 16, 2008, 07:26:41 PM
Punisher for the GB. Never beat the 1st level. Ever. Wait, I did once. But I died immediately on the second level.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Glorb on August 16, 2008, 10:09:27 PM
Ew, Deadly Towers. Like, eew.

IS, I've got to see that list. If it's NES-only, that's a shame, because Big Rigs deserves a high place on there.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Eclipsed Moon on August 16, 2008, 10:54:48 PM
I've also got to see that list.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Lizard Dude on August 16, 2008, 11:20:52 PM
I too have got to see that list.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Turtlekid1 on August 17, 2008, 05:55:02 AM
I... surprisingly don't mind if I see the list or not... but if you want to post it, I'll probably eat my words.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Insane Steve on August 18, 2008, 03:43:06 PM
Yea, it's NES only. And I'm currently on #17 right now, so it's not getting done for a while, although there's already a decent number of reviews in it so far.

Also I don't think Deadly Towers is nearly as bad as everyone says it is. At all.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: missingno on August 18, 2008, 03:54:53 PM
Anyone played E.T., WITHOUT a ROM?

yes. terrible game.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Toad on August 18, 2008, 06:47:28 PM
Faceball 2000 for the GB. I just recall playing it and dying alot, though it was kind of funny, because every time you lost a life, the game would say things like "Smiley says hello!"

I think there was an Snes version too..
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Eclipsed Moon on August 18, 2008, 06:54:31 PM
There was.  That's the version that I'm more familiar with (although I think I heard the Game Boy version was supposed to be better).

The SNES one has deathly horrible music, unless of course you can get over it.  Then its music is perfect.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Kuromatsu on August 18, 2008, 07:00:38 PM
Faceball 2000 for the GB. I just recall playing it and dying alot, though it was kind of funny, because every time you lost a life, the game would say things like "Smiley says hello!"
I'm pretty sure whoever kills you in the game will say "Have a nice day!"

I borrowed the Gameboy Faceball from a friend and I didn't think it was all that bad. Heck, it's like one of the only 3D games for the gameboy.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: ShadowBrain on August 18, 2008, 09:55:59 PM
Harvest Moon for the Game Boy was not one of the worst things I've ever played, but it was bad for the following reasons:

-The "town" you could go into when you leave your farm was four shop-ish places selected via a map-shaped menu. Whether any of the places would let you in was literally random.

-It had a dumb name: Harvest Moon GB. On the other hand, that makes me feel a little better about all the idiotic "DS" puns on said portable.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Trainman on August 19, 2008, 07:09:34 AM
-Wii Play: Basically a tack-on to Wii Sports. Cow racing and the music was always relatively fun and I actually enjoy the racing music.
-Mario Party 5: Getting rid of items in favor of "candy" orb things was one of the more idiotic, let's-dumb-it-down decisions.
-Mario Party 6: Because the microphone was so sucky and feeling like an idiot because I felt like I was talking to my Gamecube, and the feeling of "same ol', same ol', " gameplay-wise.
-Mario Party 8: Not a worst at all, but an annoying experience because of the STUPID BORDERS that makes you feel like you're peering in through a peephole. Can you TURN THEM OFF or SOMETHING???
-Let's not forget BIG RIGS: OVER THE ROAD RACING

BTW, I love the Cruis'n series... and the San Fransisco Rush series.


The game I hate the most is all the Grand Theft Auto games.  I seriously hate those games to it's core.

The question is why? You're not the type of person that degrades something by stripping it down to its principle features, are you? For example, "I hate GTA because all you do is do a mission, shoot people, drive cars in between, repeat" or is it because you're the I-don't-like-an-open-ended-world-and-gameplay-with-tons-of-stuff-to-do-because-killing-people-is-part-of-it type?
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Glorb on August 19, 2008, 12:09:13 PM
I'll bet MJ has never played GTA, and only hates it because it contains rap music and fast cars and kids these days.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Silver Metaknight on August 19, 2008, 02:14:20 PM
-Mario Party 6: Because the microphone was so sucky and feeling like an idiot because I felt like I was talking to my Gamecube, and the feeling of "same ol', same ol', " gameplay-wise.
I thought that Mario Party 6 was an improvement.  Orbs were much better than capsules, but not as good as items.  The mic was a very minor part of the game and you don't even have to use it.  And the mini-games were better and had less luck in them.  And the single player was better than Mario Party 5's.  I though Mario Party 6 was one of the better Mario Parties for Gamecube.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: The Chef on August 19, 2008, 03:29:43 PM
6 and 7 were better than 4 and 5, but the Mic really was a stupid idea. At least none of those are as bad as 8 and DS.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: nensondubois on August 19, 2008, 05:49:39 PM
Wild Snake is probably the worst game I have yet played. I don't mind Snafu or snake but this game is not good in any aspect even the music is tacky.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: PaperLuigi on August 21, 2008, 03:27:28 PM
I've heard a lot of bad things about some games (Big Rigs is one example), so I don't bother playing them. Because of this, the worst game I've ever played would probably be Superman 64, but this was a long time ago and I barely played it at all.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Kojinka on August 23, 2008, 12:48:53 AM
Ping Pals.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Glorb on August 23, 2008, 11:11:18 AM
Ping Pals isn't a game, so it doesn't count.

It's punishment for mankind.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: ShadowBrain on August 23, 2008, 11:20:07 AM
Indeed, but if we're going to not count certain bad "games" because they aren't ones , especially a lot the Wii/DS crap... man, that would never end.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: BP on August 23, 2008, 12:46:42 PM
Huh? You don't like some games for the Wii and DS? No one told me anything like that before.

Seriously, it's getting old. I didn't like anything Cammie Dunaway had to say about the core audience at E3 either but you don't see me about to ramble until I'm a skeleton. I still have hope for the games I want, a list that isn't very long, and the MOTHER 3 fan translation is seriously almost done. I don't play my DS that much anymore, mostly because I'm starting to appreciate the portable factor less and less. They announced a new Zelda game that's been said to be "accessible" for casual gamers, not "easy enough" for them. You're going to look very stupid if instead of a very easy game, it is tougher than Twilight Princess normally and has an easy mode.

I'm sorry, but I'm freaking tired of it and tired of you. You never say anything good about Nintendo, ever--did you not like Galaxy, Brawl, Twilight Princess, Super Paper Mario? I know you have more Wii games than I do, and are they all as bad as you say? Does something limit you to talking about current-generation games? If so, consider getting a 360? Too proud for that? Or do you just ignore any possible enjoyment you do get out of video games today? That's called pessimism.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Glorb on August 23, 2008, 12:58:19 PM
SB's always had a point. Nintendo sucks right now, and saying they don't doesn't mean they don't. A couple good games every now and then doesn't make a good company. Simply having a good back catalogue doesn't either. You constantly complain about SB hating Nintendo and so on, but every negative thing he's said has been a totally valid point.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: BP on August 23, 2008, 01:30:18 PM
All I'm saying is, I'm tired of it. We all know Nintendo's E3 lineup was not very exciting this year. We all know they're really making the most of their new following (and I personally believe that it's just a phase that'll either wear off when "casual gamers" suddenly decline, or it becomes easy enough to satisfy them while focusing on the traditional games).
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Uvaz on August 23, 2008, 01:30:50 PM
I would say Barney Hide n Seek, but being honest I actually enjoyed it.

By the way, I think a good company gains money, and Nintendo gains a lot of it. And it makes good games. It is making them now, and it will continue making them in the future.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Zarkanthesmasher on August 23, 2008, 02:46:35 PM
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SB's always had a point. Nintendo sucks right now, and saying they don't doesn't mean they don't. A couple good games every now and then doesn't make a good company. Simply having a good back catalogue doesn't either. You constantly complain about SB hating Nintendo and so on, but every negative thing he's said has been a totally valid point.

Wrong. The Wii doesn't stink right now, because we're getting a lot of better third party titles (Boom Blox, Blastworks, De Blob, etc) and there's more first party stuff on the way (Mario Galaxy 2, Wario Land Shake, Pikmin 3, and others). And the DS sure as heck doesn't, because it continues to get tons of RPGs, platformers, puzzle games, and all kinds of other great titles. Look what's in the DS's future: Kirby Superstar Ultra, Crono Trigger DS, Mushroom Men, Dragon Quest IV, Spore Creatures, Elebits 2, Pokemon Platinum and Rangers 2, etc. And the fact is, the DS has had a lot of great titles every year since its debut - not just a lot of shovelware and a few good games.

Also, some of you guys still don't seem to be considering the possibility that Nintendo - like a lot of other companies - just didn't give a crap about E3 this year. It wouldn't suprise me if that's what they did, because E3 was going to be a shell of its former self no matter how many companies were there.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Glorb on August 23, 2008, 03:06:09 PM
Look what's in the DS's future: Re-release, Re-release, Mushroom Men, Re-release, Spin-off, Sequel to crappy game, Pokemon spin-offs, etc.

Fixed.

Save for Mushroom Men, which actually does look sorta cool, and sure-fire awesomeness like the PW Edgeworth spinoff, there's nothing to be truly excited about regarding the DS unless you like RPG re-releases. But the Wii's in the worst shape. I can count the number of truly great, triple-A titles released per year on one hand.

Every pro-Nintendo argument I've seen lists the exception, not the rule. The Wii has SMG, yeah, but so what? Everyone here's beaten that like four times over, and some new games would be appreciated. Just admit it: Nintendo desperately needs to shape up.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: BP on August 23, 2008, 04:08:18 PM
It's not their fault I'm good enough at Mario to beat Galaxy in three days. I can beat almost any other Mario game just as fast or faster. What's the idea behind there ever being more than one 3-D Mario adventure on one console, though? That has never happened unless you count Luigi's Mansion.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: missingno on August 23, 2008, 07:35:47 PM
Harvest Moon for the Game Boy was not one of the worst things I've ever played, but it was bad for the following reasons:

-The "town" you could go into when you leave your farm was four shop-ish places selected via a map-shaped menu. Whether any of the places would let you in was literally random.

-It had a dumb name: Harvest Moon GB. On the other hand, that makes me feel a little better about all the idiotic "DS" puns on said portable.

I didn't care for Harvest Moon GBC.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: schwagames on August 23, 2008, 08:12:01 PM
I'm going to say Transformers: The Movie for Wii. Just generally bad.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Chupperson Weird on August 24, 2008, 12:28:37 AM
RPG re-releases are generally the best thing ever (especially when we're talking Chrono Trigger), so I'm pretty darn happy about the DS, personally.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Turtlekid1 on August 24, 2008, 07:12:15 AM
Or new RPGs...

Can't wait for 358/2 Days...
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Chupperson Weird on August 24, 2008, 10:41:01 AM
Kingdom Hearts is barely an RPG.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Glorb on August 24, 2008, 10:57:43 AM
Or barely a game.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Uvaz on August 24, 2008, 01:05:32 PM
What about Fire Emblem?
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Zarkanthesmasher on August 24, 2008, 01:07:24 PM
Fixed.

Save for Mushroom Men, which actually does look sorta cool, and sure-fire awesomeness like the PW Edgeworth spinoff, there's nothing to be truly excited about regarding the DS unless you like RPG re-releases. But the Wii's in the worst shape. I can count the number of truly great, triple-A titles released per year on one hand.

Every pro-Nintendo argument I've seen lists the exception, not the rule. The Wii has SMG, yeah, but so what? Everyone here's beaten that like four times over, and some new games would be appreciated. Just admit it: Nintendo desperately needs to shape up.

I missed the part where re-releases are bad. Sure, original content is awesome, and the DS has a ton of that, but re-releases of great games are also awesome - especially if they add new content.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Glorb on August 24, 2008, 01:16:43 PM
I missed the part where re-releases are good. I mean, sure, good games are still good after the first time you play them, but they're no substitute for new good games.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Lizard Dude on August 24, 2008, 01:16:54 PM
Or barely a game.
You just described all JRPGs.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: The Chef on August 24, 2008, 03:26:29 PM
Makes you wonder why they're even called "RPGs" in the first place. CWG (Cutscene Watching Game) or TRG (Text Reading Game) would be more suitable.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Chupperson Weird on August 24, 2008, 04:35:19 PM
Because the first ones took elements from D&D.
Also, just because you don't know how to have fun doesn't mean you have to act like people don't actually do anything when playing.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: The Chef on August 24, 2008, 05:24:05 PM
I'm not saying they aren't fun, I'm just pointing out that they really aren't games, let alone role-playing.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Glorb on August 24, 2008, 05:42:26 PM
Well, you're playing a role, so...
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: MushroomJunkie on August 24, 2008, 05:46:57 PM
Glorb has a point there.....
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: BP on August 24, 2008, 06:01:31 PM
No, Chup got it right. RPGs are named so because the genre came from pen-and-paper RPGs like D&D where you did play more of a role.

Why aren't RPGs games? You play, your decisions and actions determine whether you win or lose, and if you like that, you have fun. All I have to do in, say, Super Mario Bros. 3, is hold the B button and right, press A every so often, and I see some credits at the end. Same basic concept.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Glorb on August 24, 2008, 10:19:09 PM
You can boil anything down to its basic actions to make it sound lame.

In shooters, all you do is walk around and shoot people.

In adventure games, all you do is move from place to place and talk to people.

In a court of law, all you do is point at people really hard, yell "Objection", and get a verdict declared.

In forums, all you do is complain, argue, and make video game references.

In life, all you do is exist, carry out various actions, perhaps reproduce, and then die.

etc.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Chupperson Weird on August 24, 2008, 11:26:11 PM
Saying they "really aren't games" is totally preposterous. Bird Person covered it already, but seriously what the heck. You think that you can just turn an RPG on and wait a while for the end to come on? Really?
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Glorb on August 24, 2008, 11:52:01 PM
Not literally. Thing is, most modern RPGs (particularly of Japanese variety) are gut-wrenchingly linear, feature interchangeable plots, and have insanely long cutscenes, with poor storytelling put first and gameplay second.

I strongly advocate keeping games cutscene-free. If you can't find a way to show your plot point during playable gameplay, work around it as much as you can or don't include it. Even if that means having the main character stuck in a locked room, forced to hear various supporting characters mumble about stuff that you either just missed or happened miles away (a.k.a. the Half-Life method), it goes a long way toward immersion.

Seeing your main character do something that directly contradicts your last two hours of in-game heroism to maintain his prewritten "dark and brooding" personality during cutscenes is annoying and reminds you that you're going to do everything exactly as the developers intented. This happens a lot in TWEWY, wherein Neku would do the exact opposite of what you wanted to do regarding characters. Is someone making a genuine attempt to help you? Who cares if they're beneficial, Neku wants to scoff and turn his head and act angsty. Nearby pedestrian talking to themselves about their own inconsequential personal problems? Time to be a good samaritan!

But I ramble. The point is, the player's wishes should come first, not the writers'.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: ShadowBrain on August 24, 2008, 11:57:04 PM
Seriously, it's getting old. I didn't like anything Cammie Dunaway had to say about the core audience at E3 either but you don't see me about to ramble until I'm a skeleton.
I don't post what I post because I want to make your day. I post what's on my mind, what I believe, and what I want to share with people--which tend to be the primary three reasons any human being attempts to communicate with another. I could lie about myself, like half of everybody on the internet...

I don't play my DS that much anymore, mostly because I'm starting to appreciate the portable factor less and less.
Hopefully, this won't scare you, but I'm with you on that one.

They announced a new Zelda game that's been said to be "accessible" for casual gamers, not "easy enough" for them. You're going to look very stupid if instead of a very easy game, it is tougher than Twilight Princess normally and has an easy mode.
After Phantom Hourglass, that's pretty much an empty statement. It's nothing against you, I don't mean it like that, it's just...

I'm sorry, but I'm freaking tired of it and tired of you. You never say anything good about Nintendo, ever--did you not like Galaxy, Brawl, Twilight Princess, Super Paper Mario? I know you have more Wii games than I do, and are they all as bad as you say?

FOR THE RECORD
What ShadowBrain Thinks of His Wii Games: The Authoritative List

Elebits
Not that bad, really. Of course, the graphics were so-so and it was kinda short, but as launch titles go (especially for the Wii), I was pleased. Loved the clever plot set-up; throwing stuff around (physics were meh, though--is everything made out of thick cardboard, or what?), but not the limitations on later levels/god-awful voiceacting/"cutscenes". Slowdown in some places was mildly irritating but not debilitating. Also, it's not really a big deal, but... who moves all the stuff around in-between missions?

Excite Truck
First off: Bad name. Alright, now that that's out of the way... Actually pretty good. Can't shake the feeling that they were riding on the hype of the then-recently-announced MotorStorm (correct me if I'm wrong here. I may annoy people, but I'll be [darn]ed if I get my facts wrong), but hey. Loading my own music is great (can't fit too many songs on an SD card, though. At least not mine). Killer tricks system/speed; turbo system was frustrating, but in a good way. I liked the graphics when I first saw 'em, but that was after I'd been playing GCN for five years, so who knows if that's an accurate judgment. Deceptively deep, but unfortunately, primarily in the sheer amount of times you have to keep replaying tracks in different ways. On a separate note: Who is "Monster Games", anyway? And when was the last time Nintendo had a launch game not developed by them or a second-partier? And who's in those trucks? They'd have to, like, die or get nosebleeds or something after some of those jumps...

Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock
For lack of a better adjective... rockin'. I think they overhyped the whole celebrity appearances/boss mode thing, considering there were only three and one was Satan, but there were plenty of great tracks and whatnot, so who cares? Also officially introduced me to "Through the Fire and Flames" and "Talk Dirty to Me", so a few more metaphorical points. Now if only I could play anything besides "Slow Ride" past Medium! (yeah, go ahead and laugh)

Guitar Hero: World Tour
This is an interesting game in that I can't think of a single positive thing to say about it, but it's not bad. The songlist is meh (there's definitely some winners, but it seems like they went a little overboard on "diversifying" the varieties of rock. On a somewhat related note, this (http://themushroomkingdom.net/board/index.php?topic=6575.msg531853#msg531853) and this (http://themushroomkingdom.net/board/index.php?topic=12089.msg532320#msg532320).), the graphics are crude (not that it matters that much, but still), the product placement was... a bit much (though I should've expected that, considering those KFC ads and that it's the fourth game in an uber-popular series in a genre that's selling like golden hotcakes), and... well, maybe it's just me, but those drums are a pain in the rear and my first guitar was on the fritz and I had to get it replaced--which I will hold against them because a massive amount of people were having problems and RedOctane/the bazillion other people who worked on the game didn't seem to be the most forward in helping. In the end though, character customization is cool, the song creator (though it's apparently limited and complicated) and Freestyle Mode (take that, Wii Music!) are good additions for the young and old, respectively, and downloadable tracks (though they should've been in the last game) are a fine addition for the DLC-starved Wii gamer. After all, it's all about miming rockin' tunes, buying cool stuff with the dough, playing with friends (so much better in this game, though I've yet to assemble anything beyond a guitar/bass duo), and star power... but I refuse to use the button.

The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
If we were all in a parallel universe where games were still made on individual devices like the old Game & Watches, it would be worth the $250 alone (and would probably have a really sweet gold paint job with a Triforce on the side). I sometimes wish I hadn't played it because it makes almost every other game before and after it look like a weekend rental (keep in mind that this kind of accounts for my animosity towards most other current-gen Nintendo games. That, and it's poignant/indescribably frustrating how they made this game, and then... yeah). Yeah, it's technically a GCN port, but that actually helped it.

Okami
WTDx3 at the IGN watermark on the cover (and the fact that the replacements still haven't arrived), but oh well, but the replacement(s) were very nice. Yeah, another port... but a well-done one of an underappreciated game--I always figured (hey, who didn't?) it would work great on the "Revolution" when it first came out. Very Zelda-esque, indeed--almost unnervingly so (which idea came first: TP or Okami? The world may never know), but with a wonderful art style. Drawing was sometimes a tad irksome, though.

Mario Kart Wii
Oh boy, here we go... Okay, loved the tracks, tricks, graphics, Wii Wheel (doesn't make much sense with the bikes and it's a technically superfluous hunk of plastic, but...) and first console appearance of the Retro Cup. Despised (to the point that I don't play it anymore) the astronomically unbalanced races, which get worse the higher the cc (which is a shame, because I really like going faster than the pokey 50cc speed). Less is more, Nintendo: Adding four more racing slots made this more inviting to "casuals" (and "core gamers", for that matter)... how? Powering up the Blue Shell and adding more luck-based items didn't help either; when people used to say the Mario Kart games relied on luck too much, I scoffed--until this came along. Oh, and stick those lame new characters, the unimaginative name, and the awful cover (only good if you imagine that Miyamoto is a YTMND fan) where the Shine Sprite don't shine.

Mario Party 8
...Well, it's Mario Party, for better or for worse. I actually enjoy this series, but in the same way I enjoy vanilla ice cream and plain bubblegum--it's not bad, it just doesn't stand out at all. I just pretend the lame extra minigames (apparently, even in a game that's all minigames, they had to add a few more--Wii Sports/Play rip-offs, no less) don't exist and it's fine... with family or friends (this is pretty much the only game series I want to play--and feel comfortable doing so--with my parents). Oh, but nice one with lame bars on the side of the screen. 16:9 too much for you?

Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
Great graphics/art design, for starters. Though it possess most of the stellar qualities of the last two Primes (I can't define them. It's just a... feeling), and with nice new stuff like voice acting, the credits system (but WTD at needing a friend with a Wii/online to get half the stuff) and the use of the ship, it's the weakest of the trilogy. The ending was anticlimatic and it had a far too strong "shooting gallery" feel (though I wasn't too surprised). Also, I know the hint button and downloadable "here's where every hidden thing is" maps are optional, but it still just added to the feeling that my hand was being held all the way. Not bad, no, not at all. Just... well, what, in retrospect, I'd figure a Wii MP would be like. Oh, and the whole Phazon Samus thing just reminded me too much of the Dark Prince in PoP:WW.

Rayman: Raving Rabbids
My brother got this for his birthday, so I can't take the blame for mixed feelings about this one. The fact that it apparently went mid-dev from being another "real" Rayman to one of the first in a long, long, line of Wii minigame-a-thons (by all kinds of companies, not just Ubicrap Ubisoft) is somewhat telling in a depressing way, but so it goes. Obviously, you can beat it in a day or two and the graphics are nothing to stand up and cheer about, but I liked the style--among minigame collections, I can't deny it stands out, especially in the bizzare humor and "Bunny Facts" as the name of every game. Weekend fun, and that's pretty much it.

Rayman: Raving Rabbids 2
One step forward, two steps back with this one. Customizing Rabbids is a fun diversion; the poorly organized selection of four-player-centric (even alone, there's always three empty chairs or stalls or something) minigames are fun-ish, but only a few times around. The mini-Rock Band rip-off minigames are... interesting, I guess. Honestly, the best thing about this game is the FPS stages where you shoot plungers at Rabbids against real backgrounds--cooler still, considering I walked all over the French level in real life a year or two back.

Super Mario Galaxy
Ah, now the real controversy starts! Awesome music, mindblowing gravity physics/level design, and stellar (pun somewhat intended) graphics. The new (old?) linearity took me a while to appreciate (read: I just now sort of appreciate it). The only thing was... that "casualization" just couldn't be ignored. Omnipresent Star Bits, copious 1-Ups, and overly large racing timeframes guarantee that, if you ever see the "Game Over" screen, you probably have a mental condition (25 from Peach when you're Luigi? I know you can refuse, but... man! And where is she getting those, anyway, in Bowser's clutches? That last part's tounge-in-cheek, mind you) The patronizing, WiiCondom-ensheathed remote that pops up in the corner on occasions--the first level, for one--did nothing to help that notion. The ending (which you have to watch four times to completely beat the game--so, yeah, I got tired of it) is confusing, but no big deal. Finally, just stick up for it a bit, I think people complain about Rosalina's storybook too much. It's totally a side-thing and adds some nice, touching depth to the story(?) Not, I repeat, not bad--just something of a letdown.

Super Paper Mario
Great, great, great. Classic Paper Mario humor, cleverness, and substance plus platforming fun. Like TP, half the reason it's good is because it's a GCN holdover. Maybe a tad derivative at times, but definitely in my top Wii games.

Super Smash Bros. Brawl
Ah, the game that's almost as much fun to debate about as it is to play. First off, this thing's deeper than the Marianas Trench--stickers, the SSE (typical HAL-frustrating, but still fun), CDs, "Masterpieces", E3 videos... God, I won't even list it all, but if it weren't for all that nostalgia, I'd probably be playing a PS3 right now. Roster's fine, as far as I'm concerned (but no Geno? That's not an incredibly big deal, mind you... again), but a few stages are somewhat... lacking, though I guess that places more emphasis on fighting. My only beef: Quite a few lame trophies, with the half the gallery amounting to little more than a shill for the crapfest that is/was DK: Barrel Blast and some other games. Also, Pity Smashes.

WarioWare: Smooth Moves
Pretty fun, actually. Granted, there's none of those... well, whatever you want to call the thing where you had to do all the microgames so-and-so many times to get stuff--but who wants to do that on a console at home, anyway? Plenty of great microgames, though anything requiring moving forward/backwards is always a disaster (or is it just me? I normally sit, which makes squats interesting). I wish there were more minigames (hey, in a game full of microgames, those are substantial), though, and the multiplayer modes can't hold a candle to those in Mega Party Games (but that game was designed to be 99% multiplayer, so it's not a gigantic deal). I still pull it out every now and then and play a few rounds.

Wii Play
If real videogames are dress pants, this is a diaper. Tanks and Air Hockey are the best (probably because they're rip-offs of other games), and a couple other ones aren't too awful either, but it's like eating a thickburger or watching Family Guy: Sure, you'll enjoy it on some level, but you'll just feel cheap and hollow inside. The only reason it sold a gazillion copies is because it came with a Wiimote--and Nintendo knows that (but like they'll up and admit it). My brother got it for his birthday, FYI (he kind of regrets asking for it. I tried to warn him...)

Wii Sports
This came with the Wii, so I think it's really hard to talk about this in the same terms as the above. ...Well, what can I say--like everyone else, I got caught up in Wii-mania when I first bought it and... God help me, I was having a heck of a time. Then, like 98% of everyone else who bought a Wii, I put it away after a week or two and haven't touched it since. The sad thing about that game is that, since it's obviously physically impossible to stop people from making a billion baseball/tennis games on the Wii, all of said games seem irrelevant in the face of Wii Sports--which came with the Wii. Seriously, if Wii Baseball is the most complex thing some people's parents can wrap their heads around, why would they be interested in Super Mario Sluggers?

Link's Crossbow Training
Ignoring the fact that this is the first time Link's name has been in the title of a game since Zelda II (or since LttP, if you count the double-entendre. Not that it matters, of course), and that Link has never had a crossbow (though there's now a 100% chance he will in the next game--and, hey, they could work it into the plot! I mean, it's Link's Crossbow Training, right? So he just got a crossbow after the events of TP and he's trying it out. No, I'm serious!), this game is cool. With 27 levels, conjoined in groups of three, it's obviously a pack-in to sell the semi-crappy Zapper (way to encourage more lame lightgun ports/spin-offs, Nintendo. I know some people like House of the Dead, but not I. Especially odd, since I doubt Nintendo will make another game any time soon to support it... actually, you know what, that's not odd. But now I want Yoshi's Safari 2!), but for $20, it's a surprisingly good deal. Granted, I get a light "cheap" feeling like I discussed earlier (did there really need to be target-shooting in Wii Play and this? And Smooth Moves, and...), but I've played worse.

Any questions?
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Chupperson Weird on August 25, 2008, 12:45:24 AM
Not literally. Thing is, most modern RPGs (particularly of Japanese variety) are gut-wrenchingly linear, feature interchangeable plots, and have insanely long cutscenes, with poor storytelling put first and gameplay second.
Well the problem there is that playing any old generic game of any genre is going to be lame and bland. You can't say this is a problem exclusive to RPGs. If you know what are good games, I don't see the problem here. And don't act like they all have "poor storytelling".
Second, if the game itself is fun, the story can be less than stellar. I will play Final Fantasy games because the games (battle systems in particular) are fun, and that's that. Baten Kaitos battles are also immensely fun.
Also, I really disagree that the player should come before the writer, especially when you're talking about games where Masato Kato is involved. If the guy who wrote the story has a vision, then the game should play out according to that. There are some games I will play for the story regardless whether it's the most fun battle system of the decade or not.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: BP on August 25, 2008, 01:02:26 AM
Assessing all of that and not counting the possibility that I might enjoy Brawl more than you enjoy all video games altogether, I'd say you logically like the Wii more than I do! I mean, it even sounds like you like Link's Crossbow Training for the game--I bought it in case a good Zapper game came out.

As for Mario Kart, I agree, it's only really fun with around five players over Wi-Fi. More, it's a mess of frustration. Fewer, it's time trials many people play at the same time.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: The Chef on August 25, 2008, 08:14:55 AM
Also, I really disagree that the player should come before the writer, especially when you're talking about games where Masato Kato is involved. If the guy who wrote the story has a vision, then the game should play out according to that. There are some games I will play for the story regardless whether it's the most fun battle system of the decade or not.

You forgot the part where they're supposed to be games, not books or movies.

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Quite a few lame trophies, with the half the gallery amounting to little more than a shill for the crapfest that is/was DK: Barrel Blast and some other games.

I noticed that it isn't on your list. Have you played it? If not, how do you know it's such a crapfest?

Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Glorb on August 25, 2008, 09:39:25 AM
DK:BB was pure hatred and despair under the guise of electronic entertaiment.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Chupperson Weird on August 25, 2008, 11:12:16 AM
Well Chef, you obviously play games for a different reason than I do. And good job disregarding the rest of my post where I already addressed the one thing you used as a rebuttal.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Zarkanthesmasher on August 25, 2008, 05:28:06 PM
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Ah, now the real controversy starts! Awesome music, mindblowing gravity physics/level design, and stellar (pun somewhat intended) graphics. The new (old?) linearity took me a while to appreciate (read: I just now sort of appreciate it). The only thing was... that "casualization" just couldn't be ignored. Omnipresent Star Bits, copious 1-Ups, and overly large racing timeframes guarantee that, if you ever see the "Game Over" screen, you probably have a mental condition (25 from Peach when you're Luigi? I know you can refuse, but... man! And where is she getting those, anyway, in Bowser's clutches? That last part's tounge-in-cheek, mind you) The patronizing, WiiCondom-ensheathed remote that pops up in the corner on occasions--the first level, for one--did nothing to help that notion. The ending (which you have to watch four times to completely beat the game--so, yeah, I got tired of it) is confusing, but no big deal. Finally, just stick up for it a bit, I think people complain about Rosalina's storybook too much. It's totally a side-thing and adds some nice, touching depth to the story(?) Not, I repeat, not bad--just something of a letdown.

Except, that seeing the Game Over screen in the modern Mario Mario games isn't really penalizing at all, so it isn't as much a sign of difficulty as it was in the early mario games. In Super Mario 64, you saved after beating each star, so getting a Game Over only meant you'd have to start the level over - which isn't a big deal usually. Yes, you don't see that screen really at all in Galaxy, but since the levels aren't exceedingly long in either game, it doesn't really make much of a difference.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: MaxVance on August 25, 2008, 05:57:20 PM
The quote button exists for a reason. Please use it.

Anyway, what you mentioned would be another example of "casualization," as ShadowBrain mentioned. Or it may just be a reflection of how most games these days are easier than games from the 1980s.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: The Chef on August 25, 2008, 07:01:30 PM
I'd say they're easier because of casualization.

DK:BB was pure hatred and despair under the guise of electronic entertaiment.

Your face is pure hatred and despair under the guise of electronic entertainment.

Well Chef, you obviously play games for a different reason than I do. And good job disregarding the rest of my post where I already addressed the one thing you used as a rebuttal.

Alright, alright. I apologize for that. Even I get lost in a game's atmosphere. After all, I'm the only one here who still cares about the characterization of certain obscure Mario characters.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Chupperson Weird on August 25, 2008, 07:14:04 PM
Games aren't just easier because of casualization. We're better at them than we used to be.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: The Chef on August 25, 2008, 07:17:51 PM
Then how come every new game I play takes me a few hours to beat without dying, yet the older games still kick my behind to Alaska and back again?
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: ShadowBrain on August 25, 2008, 07:18:43 PM
Because it's a combination of the two (however, if it makes CW feel better to believe otherwise, then who am I to stop him?).

Assessing all of that and not counting the possibility that I might enjoy Brawl more than you enjoy all video games altogether, I'd say you logically like the Wii more than I do!
Whoa, wait... What? What?
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Chupperson Weird on August 25, 2008, 07:24:09 PM
I meant to imply that it was, as you say, a combination of the two.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: ShadowBrain on August 25, 2008, 07:29:24 PM
Oh. Sorry about that.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: BP on August 25, 2008, 07:39:11 PM
Maybe you're bad at classic sidescrollers. Super Paper Mario's system makes it easier to not die than other games, but the 3-D games make me watch Mario die way more than Super Mario Bros. or World. They. are. very. easy.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Glorb on August 25, 2008, 09:30:23 PM
It's true, games in general have gotten easier, which either good or bad, depending on the game.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: MushroomJunkie on August 25, 2008, 10:28:10 PM
It's definitely bad that games are getting easier.  The only game that I think should get easier is pikmin and pikmin 2. Those are the hardest games I've ever played, esspecially pikimin 2.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Lizard Dude on August 26, 2008, 02:16:30 AM
If the Pikmins are the hardest games you've played, don't complain about games getting easier. Just play the thousands of games already out there that are harder than Pikmin 2.

Plenty of brutal games are constantly coming out. Constantly. And if that's not enough for you, go online in just about anything for further brutalization.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Lizard Dude on August 26, 2008, 02:18:30 AM
Then how come every new game I play takes me a few hours to beat without dying, yet the older games still kick my behind to Alaska and back again?
What new games are these? Be specific.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Zarkanthesmasher on August 26, 2008, 06:41:26 AM
The quote button exists for a reason. Please use it.

Anyway, what you mentioned would be another example of "casualization," as ShadowBrain mentioned. Or it may just be a reflection of how most games these days are easier than games from the 1980s.

Okay, I used it. Happy now? :P

The only real reason I made that comment was because ShadowBrain seemed to be saying that the "causalization" was only a very recent thing (correct me if I'm wrong though). That seems to be the biggest complaint about Nintendo today - but the reality is that you could apply it to any era of Nintendo after the SNES age. After all, the N64 often is considered to be when Nintendo first started losing traction in the video game industry. Yeah, Nintendo is doing a lot better now, but that's what makes people say that Nintendo is to casual. Without all the non-gamer support, theoretically Nintendo wouldn't be doing nearly as well now, and so people complain that Nintendo is not focusing on games enough.

I realize that there's other things that factor into the equation as well - the main point I was trying to make is that the term "casualization" can't just be applied to the Wii. People have been complaining for ages now that Nintendo is a kiddy system, so this is nothing new.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: The Chef on August 26, 2008, 08:56:32 AM
What new games are these? Be specific.

Pretty much anything on Nintendo's systems, which is why after this post:

If the Pikmins are the hardest games you've played, don't complain about games getting easier. Just play the thousands of games already out there that are harder than Pikmin 2.

Plenty of brutal games are constantly coming out. Constantly. And if that's not enough for you, go online in just about anything for further brutalization.

...I realized that video games in general aren't getting easier. Just the ones Nintendo makes.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Trainman on August 26, 2008, 10:32:37 AM
Why aren't RPGs games? You play, your decisions and actions determine whether you win or lose, and if you like that, you have fun. All I have to do in, say, Super Mario Bros. 3, is hold the B button and right, press A every so often, and I see some credits at the end. Same basic concept.

I just got done telling MJ about how lame games sound when you break them down, and.... you just did it.

It's not their fault I'm good enough at Mario to beat Galaxy in three days. I can beat almost any other Mario game just as fast or faster. What's the idea behind there ever being more than one 3-D Mario adventure on one console, though? That has never happened unless you count Luigi's Mansion.

They should crank out maybe two per console.... but Heaven forbid Nintendo does that because if they fired off Galaxy 2 on the Wii.... itd be "Super Mario Galaxy" with a "2" kinda stapled somewhere on the screen. I'd imagine it'd be a clone or the quality would kinda go down because "OMG WE'RE MAKING MORE THAN 1 MARIO ADVENTURE GAME FOR THE WII WHAT??? THIS IS STRANGE!!!!" I imagine they'd be like "WHINE WHINE WHINE We just DID Mario Galaxy... I don't wanna!!!!!!!!!!!" and then make it a Sunshine type deal.


You know, with Nintendo not trying to bring in the core at all and making stupid games toward the casual folks, I feel like my gaming has just come to an end... just like wow, NES, etc., now here comes the Wii, the end of the line. My Wii collects dust and if I ever play it... I'm only playing Wii Sports. Galaxy I'm saving until someone wants to watch it that hasn't ever played it... Smash Bros.... and 1 player doesn't mix after Subspace, Super Paper Mario, done with everything, and Wii Sports is truly the only game I've been playing since I played Smash with an idiot about 2 1/2 months ago. Wii Play = blegh. I like Cow Racing, and the music to that.

Sure you'll say "OH JUST PLAY DE BLOB OR SOME LITTLE RPG OR SOMETHING." Well, about half of what Nintendo is/will be churning out I'm not into it. Rayman, Mushroom Men, etc. looks stupid. I even was wondering about Boom Blox and now it just seems like... yeah let's go blam some blocks, okay, cool. I'm into racing games and whatnot. Forza 2 (better than Gran Turismo, don't argue with me), Call of Duty 4, Burnout Paradise, Skate, Grand Theft Auto 4, etc. All amazing games! The thing is, Nintendo has a lack of good games like that. Skate It will be stupid but "WHOA SPIN THE WIIMOTE TO DO A SHUVIT WOW SO MUCH BETTER THAN THE ORIGINAL,"  Burnout was dropped a long time ago, Grand Theft Auto will never be ported to the Wii in any extremely dumbed down form. You might now say "WII HAS RACING GAMES." Okay, Excite Truck isn't... what I'm after, for example. I read about "Jeep Thrills" and "Ferrari Challenge" or something like that coming out next year and I'm REALLY, REALLY scared they will be low quality, crappy games equivalent to that of the early GT Pro Series for Wii, one of the worst racing game I've laid eyes on. Just another crappy, Auto Modellista looking rip off (I like Auto Modellista, mind you.) with the worst control for driving. I HATE the remote used for steering. If Mario Kart didn't have the GCN controller option, I would still not know what the game was about. Never woulda played it.

But anyway, another long post. Nintendo must be playing the mario party (or 2?) mini-game where you must cast your line out with the glove on the end and reel in coins.... The casual gamers represent the treasure chest with many coins while people like us, actual gamers, represent the lame, insignificant single coins in the very front.... and we only get reeled in when they accidentally miss the casual crowd and randomly latch onto us.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Reading on August 26, 2008, 11:41:27 AM
Galaxy I'm saving until someone wants to watch it that hasn't ever played it... Smash Bros.... and 1 player doesn't mix after Subspace, Super Paper Mario, done with everything ...
You can still get enjoyment out of a game after you've completed it, you know. I've beaten SPM 3 times (and probably about to do my 4th in the near future) and I continue to play Galaxy even though I've completed it 100%. Just because you finish the game, it can't be fun anymore? Who said that?

I apologize if this isn't what you meant.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Chupperson Weird on August 26, 2008, 11:54:38 AM
Galaxy I'm saving until someone wants to watch it that hasn't ever played it...
May I say... you're a fool?

Well, about half of what Nintendo is/will be churning out I'm not into it. Rayman, Mushroom Men, etc. looks stupid. I even was wondering about Boom Blox and now it just seems like... yeah let's go blam some blocks, okay, cool.
Nintendo didn't make any of those games. May I say again... you're a fool?
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Turtlekid1 on August 26, 2008, 03:36:19 PM
You'll call them a fool whether they give permission or not, so why not save yourself the trouble of asking?

Kingdom Hearts is barely an RPG.

Based on past posts on both sides, I'm going to go out on a limb and say we have different tastes in games.

It's true, games in general have gotten easier, which either good or bad, depending on the game.

Jak2--80's difficulty, 2000's graphics, storyline, and game mechanics.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: ShadowBrain on August 26, 2008, 06:41:47 PM
After all, the N64 often is considered to be when Nintendo first started losing traction in the video game industry.
They lost traction because they insisted on using crappy technology (and yet they still managed to make some of the best games ever on that thing).

Yeah, Nintendo is doing a lot better now, but that's what makes people say that Nintendo is to casual.
Nintendo is to casual as peanut butter is to jelly.

But seriously, are you sure you don't mean that the other way around?

the main point I was trying to make is that the term "casualization" can't just be applied to the Wii. People have been complaining for ages now that Nintendo is a kiddy system, so this is nothing new.
"Casual" and "kiddy" are way different. Ironically, part of the reason I've been something of a Nintendo fanboy for most of my life is because their games were always really simple. I picked up Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour because I knew I'd probably never be able to wrap my head around, say, Tiger Woods PGA whatever. I got the ever-elusive DDR:Mario Mix because I'd tried DDR in the arcades and sucked hard. I think it's even more ironic that some people went off on LoZ:WW for being too easy. After all, even Miyamoto himself said he wanted to make it more for "everyone", and yet it was still an awesome game.

Not just simple, but the kiddy thing was actually always fine for me. Not only would I probably never be allowed, at least now, to play GTA4 (or what-have-you that's all over the PS3/360 these days) in my house, but I don't even really like those kind of games. I'm not "hardcore" like that, in case that's what anyone thinks. What do I want? I want what Nintendo used to be all about. What they still kind of do, but seem to be slowly moving away from: Easy-to-get, (reasonably) inoffensive games that can give me a challenge.

...I realized that video games in general aren't getting easier. Just the ones Nintendo makes.
Now here's a guy who "gets it".

Nintendo must be playing the mario party (or 2?) mini-game where you must cast your line out with the glove on the end and reel in coins.... The casual gamers represent the treasure chest with many coins while people like us, actual gamers, represent the lame, insignificant single coins in the very front.... and we only get reeled in when they accidentally miss the casual crowd and randomly latch onto us.
Obscure, yet fairly accurate analogy (but even their "core" games always have some little things "casualized" here and there. Even Brawl, in all its gaming glory, had Pity Smashes).
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: BriGuy92 on August 26, 2008, 08:01:44 PM
The funny thing about pity smashes is that I've only seen one used once.

And as for the topic, the worst game I've ever played has to be  Anticipation for the NES.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: ShadowBrain on August 26, 2008, 08:14:52 PM
The funny thing about pity smashes is that I've only seen one used once.
Play a fifty stock match against a CPU. They'll show up, like, six times (which doesn't really make much sense, considering it's literally the game's fault if the CPU sucks).
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Eclipsed Moon on August 26, 2008, 08:15:17 PM
Anticipation is kind of funny and the music is constantly stuck in my head.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: ShadowBrain on August 26, 2008, 08:42:31 PM
Just to pretty much wrap up the earlier back-and-forth, anyone who doesn't think this (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/36819.html?r=1&type=wmv) and this (http://kotaku.com/5026431/miyamoto-wii-music-is-better-than-a-video-game) is a sign we're all screwed shouldn't be allowed to vote.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: missingno on August 27, 2008, 08:57:26 PM
Anticipation is just a poor Pictionary knockoff, I won't say it's the worst, but it is pretty bad.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: BP on August 27, 2008, 09:11:51 PM
Play a fifty stock match against a CPU.
Aaaaand why would you do that? Why would you want to do that?
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Eclipsed Moon on August 27, 2008, 10:08:02 PM
At least Anticipation's drawings are better than Win, Lose or Draw's.

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fnoom.kontek.net%2Fimages%2Ffungi%2Fanticipation1.png&hash=ed6b651be9838423a977201a1280894c) (https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fnoom.kontek.net%2Fimages%2Ffungi%2Fanticipation2.png&hash=666ddc85a0a2128bdc2510dc28586ac7) (https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fnoom.kontek.net%2Fimages%2Ffungi%2Fanticipation3.png&hash=23110149623c40ecd64d788087c96946) (https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fnoom.kontek.net%2Fimages%2Ffungi%2Fanticipation4.png&hash=4fa29dd8e29acdb6352bf07b9d6efa6e) (https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fnoom.kontek.net%2Fimages%2Ffungi%2Fanticipation5.png&hash=16a275b5ccb53469f51c12ba59f51368) (https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fnoom.kontek.net%2Fimages%2Ffungi%2Fanticipation6.png&hash=b63daf1e88876adbfcc532ef0f5cf7e6) (https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fnoom.kontek.net%2Fimages%2Ffungi%2Fanticipation7.png&hash=c98c3e0ee5e479d6035b2b5335b3ef29)
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Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: ShadowBrain on August 27, 2008, 10:13:34 PM
Aaaaand why would you do that? Why would you want to do that?
I was trying to get in those KO/so-and-so many hours of Brawling requirements.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: BP on August 27, 2008, 10:19:51 PM
But you spoke as if you do that regularly...

I do regularly have computers use pity final smashes though, in three-minute matches. Not that it helps them at all.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: ShadowBrain on August 27, 2008, 10:22:30 PM
But you spoke as if you do that regularly...
Play a fifty stock match against a CPU. They'll show up, like, six times (which doesn't really make much sense, considering it's literally the game's fault if the CPU sucks).
Well... no, not really (but, hey, it's your opinion).
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: BP on August 27, 2008, 10:45:09 PM
No, before that. Complaining about pity final smashes that only show up six times in a fifty-stock match makes it sound like it bothers you because you play fifty-stock matches all the time.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: ShadowBrain on August 27, 2008, 10:48:14 PM
Ah, okay.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Mega 2 on August 28, 2008, 12:57:30 AM
I don't quite remember Oddjob being that short...

I think Lizard Dude meant Nick Nack.

And I'm guessing few if any recent games can compare to the awfulness of some of the games of the '80s (don't read that as meaning all '80s games were bad, because I'd be the last person to make that statement).  I'm talking broken Atari ports, senselessly difficult N.E.S. games with no save or continue features, and edutainment games that could make kids hate learning.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: ShadowBrain on August 28, 2008, 08:02:19 AM
Well, videogames were pretty new back then, so everybody was making games whether they knew how to or not. That's why the DS and Wii have so many bad games--every revolution starts off rough.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Insane Steve on August 28, 2008, 08:06:15 AM
Erm, the actual NES Pictionary game is much, MUCH worse than Anticipation.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Eclipsed Moon on August 28, 2008, 08:16:21 AM
Pictionary is somewhat interesting for gameplay, and musically/unimportantly can come down to a fierce music battle between David Wise and Tim Follin.

Also forgot that I wanted to include the boxart just because it scores Anticipation bonus points with me:
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fnoom.kontek.net%2Fimages%2Ffungi%2Fanticipation.jpg&hash=1de609ab0e2db21acefb55c3fc68fcdd)
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: CrossEyed7 on August 28, 2008, 09:28:29 AM
the boxart
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mobygames.com%2Fimages%2Fcovers%2Flarge%2F1048299455-00.jpg&hash=e6030f93c9a3a10b213b6835090a6ead)

And I thought Okami got it bad...
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: missingno on August 28, 2008, 10:46:32 AM
Erm, the actual NES Pictionary game is much, MUCH worse than Anticipation.

Never actually played it.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: ShadowBrain on August 28, 2008, 05:05:14 PM
A Moby Games plug on a white background... wow, that is a bad boxart.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Lizard Dude on August 29, 2008, 09:55:08 PM
I love how the entire alphabet is the subtitle.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: penguinwizard on August 29, 2008, 10:55:39 PM
Am I the only one to think the Anticipation boxart looks like a parody boxart that someone would Photoshop together? It looks that bad.

I'm too lazy to look through the thread; has anyone mentioned one of the Where's Waldo games? Once you know where Waldo is, you can blow through the game in five minutes since he's in the same place every time.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Eclipsed Moon on August 30, 2008, 12:11:57 AM
I've played Where's Waldo? on NES and The Great Waldo Search for SNES and I'm pretty sure his place moves, at least in TGWS.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: missingno on September 01, 2008, 09:14:12 PM
I'm too lazy to look through the thread; has anyone mentioned one of the Where's Waldo games? Once you know where Waldo is, you can blow through the game in five minutes since he's in the same place every time.

The Irate Gamer pretty much turned me off that, even though I think he sucks. I wanna play it though to torture myself.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Zarkanthesmasher on September 02, 2008, 01:29:37 PM
"Casual" and "kiddy" are way different. Ironically, part of the reason I've been something of a Nintendo fanboy for most of my life is because their games were always really simple. I picked up Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour because I knew I'd probably never be able to wrap my head around, say, Tiger Woods PGA whatever. I got the ever-elusive DDR:Mario Mix because I'd tried DDR in the arcades and sucked hard. I think it's even more ironic that some people went off on LoZ:WW for being too easy. After all, even Miyamoto himself said he wanted to make it more for "everyone", and yet it was still an awesome game.

Not just simple, but the kiddy thing was actually always fine for me. Not only would I probably never be allowed, at least now, to play GTA4 (or what-have-you that's all over the PS3/360 these days) in my house, but I don't even really like those kind of games. I'm not "hardcore" like that, in case that's what anyone thinks. What do I want? I want what Nintendo used to be all about. What they still kind of do, but seem to be slowly moving away from: Easy-to-get, (reasonably) inoffensive games that can give me a challenge.
Now here's a guy who "gets it".
Obscure, yet fairly accurate analogy (but even their "core" games always have some little things "casualized" here and there. Even Brawl, in all its gaming glory, had Pity Smashes).

True - but therein lies the problem. A lot of the current video game players believe "casual" and "kiddy" to be the same thing. If a game doesn't have realistic graphics, complex gameplay, and a general gritty and real-life feel, then its kiddy to them. Smash Brothers is kiddy because you can't do 20 button long combos that all look different. Zelda is kiddy because there's no spoken dialogue and the characters look cartoony. And mario is kiddy because he doesn't talk like the cussing, trash talking heroes of Gears of War.

Okay, not exactly, but you get my picture. The big problem today is that the current definition of "hardcore gamer" has only recently changed from the traditional meaning. 10 years ago, if you just played tons of games and got really good at them, then you were a hardcore gamer. Today, being hardcore means only playing games that look and sound like movies, and are violent and gritty. Today, not even Megabyte, Deezer, David Dayton, or any of the other guys here would be considered hardcore by a lot of the current market. And that's just not right.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Uvaz on September 02, 2008, 05:49:34 PM
Sorry for not having much to add, but I agree.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Shyguy92 on September 03, 2008, 07:53:29 PM
Pictionary is somewhat interesting for gameplay, and musically/unimportantly can come down to a fierce music battle between David Wise and Tim Follin.

Also forgot that I wanted to include the boxart just because it scores Anticipation bonus points with me:
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fnoom.kontek.net%2Fimages%2Ffungi%2Fanticipation.jpg&hash=1de609ab0e2db21acefb55c3fc68fcdd)
What are you talking about? That is the best boxart ever! Better then TP's anyway.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: BP on September 03, 2008, 08:50:39 PM
I think I'll take this time to set you all straight while it's still kind of on-topic. Note that any use of "you" is not directed to anyone in particular.

Casual gaming: When you play newer games designed by Nintendo to be easy to play, even when you have no prior gaming experience
You play Super smash Bros. with your friends because it's fun? You play through Ocarina of Time again with no intention of getting a record time for a speedrun, and just to enjoy it again? Guess what? You're a casual gamer.

Hardcore gaming: When you play a NES.
I wouldn't say "hardcore" is appropriate for a gaming class. There are things you can do and be hardcore, like beating Classic on Intense without dying or translating MOTHER 3. Me, I guess I play Super Mario World in a hardcore manner... but you should see me play a standard first-person shooter. You are not hardcore, but some things you may do are. And I apologize for repeating myself, but you are definitely not in any position to call yourself hardcore if you think Super Mario Bros. is hard.

Pro: No items. Fox only. Final Destination.
Pro gamers play video games for money, most usually in tournaments. A game tester who gets paid for it--that's a profession, so a tester is a professional gamer.

So what do you call people who only play Nintendo's new, easy-to-understand games? I think they're called non-gamers, but considering that these games have only begun production as a sort of experiment by Nintendo, you could call them lab rats...
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Lizard Dude on September 03, 2008, 10:34:53 PM
You thought the casual influence was bad: now Nintendo isn't even going for humans anymore (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXNTw5Qnxd8&fmt=18).
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Uvaz on September 03, 2008, 11:08:24 PM
I think casual and hardcore-ness are (or should be) measured in the amount of time you play and amount of games you buy.
Say a casual buys one or two games each year, and plays about two hours a week, while a hardcore buys say like 1 or 2 games per month and plays them 2 or more hours a day.

That's just what I think. I have nothing to say against Bird Person's post, so I guess I somewhat agree with it. Except the lab rat part, easy to understand games are games, so they would be casual in the way I see it...

Wait, so if some middle aged nub gets brain age and tries and succeeds in getting an age of 20... is he hardcore?

Can a gamer be so hardcore that he could make a game that not even him would beat?
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Chupperson Weird on September 04, 2008, 11:29:57 AM
I think "hardcore gaming" is signified by playing really good games that may be somewhat obscure or that not everyone has played.
Playing Guitar Hero, therefore, makes you the exact opposite of hardcore.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Zarkanthesmasher on September 04, 2008, 02:10:41 PM
Exactly. I would add though that you also can determine how hardcore a game is by seeing how easy it is to pick up and play. The boggest franchises like Mario and Pokemon are generally casual, because they're easy to get into and appeal to a wide variety of people. More obscure franchises like Earthbound and Fire Emblem - while popular among a lot of Nintendo fans - are far more challenging and time consuming, which is why they're hardcore. There's probably not that many 10 year olds today that would find Ness and his quirky friends as appealing as a game of Mario Baseball or Mario Kart - and most probably haven't even heard of him apart from Smash Brothers.

Ironically, this would make the Metroid Prime series far more hardcore than Halo, despite a lot of fans seeing it the other way around. Despite the wonderful reviews Samus's 3D games have gotten, they still haven't sold nearly as many units as Halo. Halo is actually pretty casual compared to a lot of other series as well - online play is quick and easy to get into, and the story mode isn't the main focus. The reason why people call it hardcore stems from this silly misconception that "hardcore" means "dark, gritty, and realistic." Gamers 15 years ago would probably be laughing their controlers out of their hands if they saw the current state of the market. :P

Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Uvaz on September 04, 2008, 03:49:31 PM
I want to say that Earthbound is really simple, from what I played. And Pokemon has alot of hardcore potential. You think any noob can complete the pokedex, have a win streak of 100 in the battle tower, have 5 stars in his trainer card, train a party of EV trained pokemons with good IVs? Even then you can play against real opponents to further challenge your skills.
(If you dont know what IV or EV are, then I know why you think pokemon is simple.)

Now anyone and his dog and the fleas of the dog know about Earthbound, it has lost its cult and hardcore status.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Chupperson Weird on September 04, 2008, 04:22:40 PM
Yeah, I really wouldn't consider EB to be too hardcore, aside from that you're pretty hardcore if you actually own a copy.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: MushroomJunkie on September 04, 2008, 04:43:15 PM
I think "hardcore gaming" is signified by playing really good games that may be somewhat obscure or that not everyone has played.
Playing Guitar Hero, therefore, makes you the exact opposite of hardcore.

I agree with you part way because think about Mario?  Many people play Mario (probably not as much as guitar hero sadly).  We all play Mario games and we're all hardcore gamers.  Many people play WoW and thats a hardcore game.  You kinda have to look at each games 'core percentage individually.  Mario and Zelda is played alot but I look at those as some hardcore games just because of the way they play and stuff like that.  But I look at Guitar Hero and I see it as a softcore game because it just doesn't play like a hardcore game would.  You see my meaning?
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Uvaz on September 04, 2008, 05:00:16 PM
If you are saying that hardcoreness depends in gameplay and not in popularity (or lack of it), I agree.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Glorb on September 04, 2008, 05:13:31 PM
You're only hardcore to me if you can beat the game of life.

Or are good at Monopoly.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Lizard Dude on September 04, 2008, 05:33:04 PM
Playing Guitar Hero, therefore, makes you the exact opposite of hardcore.
I'm a n00b!!!
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: The Chef on September 04, 2008, 06:25:01 PM
You're only hardcore to me if you can beat the game of life.

Or are good at Monopoly.

>:D
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Chupperson Weird on September 04, 2008, 06:45:18 PM
WoW is not a hardcore game, and I don't really think most Mario games are either. Yes, they have good gameplay, but are also easily beaten and played by all (and so become less hardcore with each reissue). SMB2J, though, is getting into hardcore territory.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Glitchy on September 04, 2008, 07:29:45 PM
WoW is not a hardcore game, and I don't really think most Mario games are either. Yes, they have good gameplay, but are also easily beaten and played by all (and so become less hardcore with each reissue). SMB2J, though, is getting into hardcore territory.

Are you kidding me? SMB2J is one of the examples of "hardcore of its best". That game is flippin' hard.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Uvaz on September 04, 2008, 07:32:34 PM
Its good that the SNES version has unlimited continues from the beginning of the level, not the world.
A dont know about the original, though...
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Glitchy on September 04, 2008, 07:49:10 PM
Its good that the SNES version has unlimited continues from the beginning of the level, not the world.
A dont know about the original, though...

Good point. I don't know if it supports the world skip trick like SMB1 though.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Chupperson Weird on September 04, 2008, 07:50:19 PM
The SNES version fails miserably because of broken jump physics. It would be good otherwise.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: BP on September 04, 2008, 08:03:39 PM
We all play Mario games and we're all hardcore gamers.

I thought the same thing, then I started to play more games, and now I know that I was wrong. The truth isn't obvious when you're young and your peers are saying Mario is kiddy. But playing just Mario and X and Y Nintendo franchise is not hardcore. Don't play games more--play more games.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: MushroomJunkie on September 04, 2008, 08:53:39 PM
If you are saying that hardcoreness depends in gameplay and not in popularity (or lack of it), I agree.

Yes that is exactly what I am saying.

Quote
and I don't really think most Mario games are hardcore either

If you weren't a admin, I'd, I'd..........become very soar with you mister!

Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: SolidShroom on September 04, 2008, 09:12:48 PM
     After reading much of the drooly stuff on this topic about "harcores" and "casuals," my only proper response is to tell you guys to shut up. I mean really why does being someone who plays games have to be such a huge ordeal? It's all anybody hears anymore and honestly I'm sick of it. Why is there a pretty much undecided set of criteria that determines what kind of gamer someone is? Can't people just play games and have fun and maybe play them a little bit more than other people? Why is it condescending to refer to someone who, as the dictionary would explain, a person who casually plays games? I remember when I was a really little kid I would talk to my friends in school who played video games about the games I played, and they would tell me about the games they played. If I happened to play a certain game more than them, or if I was much more interested, I didn't refer to them as "casuals" or "n00bs." Is it wrong to not have a passionate love for every game ever? Is it wrong to have not played over 50 video games in the past year? Is it wrong to play video games for less than 5 hours a day?
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: MushroomJunkie on September 04, 2008, 09:25:53 PM
Casual gamers are bad because they make it worse for the more important, hardcore gamers to get the kind of games that they want.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Sunbun on September 04, 2008, 09:34:58 PM
Casual gamers are bad because they make it worse for the more important, hardcore gamers to get the kind of games that they want.

Because me walking into a GameStop to buy Peggle Deluxe will hinder your effort to buy, let's say, Halo 3 or Metal Gear Solid. Right, right.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Eclipsed Moon on September 04, 2008, 09:37:08 PM
Drat, he took my parking space.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: MushroomJunkie on September 04, 2008, 09:47:05 PM
The more casual gamers, the more casual games, the less hardcore gamers, less hardcore games.  Theres a pattern you see?
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Rao on September 04, 2008, 09:47:18 PM
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg387.imageshack.us%2Fimg387%2F2912%2Fmonoclesuz2.gif&hash=1f133c33807b72f231304ff9c25e2dbb)
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Chupperson Weird on September 04, 2008, 09:48:23 PM
Except there isn't, because there are actually just more games being made.
Also, how much you play games really doesn't have much to do with anything.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Glorb on September 04, 2008, 09:57:27 PM
The more casual gamers, the more casual games, the less hardcore gamers, less hardcore games.  Theres a pattern you see?

lol wut
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Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: SolidShroom on September 04, 2008, 09:58:45 PM
The more casual gamers, the more casual games, the less hardcore gamers, less hardcore games.  Theres a pattern you see?
So somebody "hardcore" can only enjoy "hardcore games," and only "casuals" can enjoy "casual games?" Why can't there just be gamers and games?
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: MushroomJunkie on September 04, 2008, 10:14:09 PM
I dunno.  I guess their can be.  I don't care, just as long as the games that I like to play keep coming out and don't decrease, it's fine with me.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Glorb on September 04, 2008, 10:18:10 PM
But you just said...
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Eclipsed Moon on September 04, 2008, 10:20:19 PM
Well, Super Mario Galaxy completely failed Nintendo's expectations so they are probably going to lower the budget for the next game, if they even bother to produce it.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Uvaz on September 04, 2008, 10:53:09 PM
I don't think that being casual, or the presence/existence/smell of casuals is bad. I just want to hear people opinion about what is hardcore and what is casual, not to bash anyone. I also became tired of all this "cazualsz soc" thing, and that was mainly why I started discussing about the topic here.
(You can check some of my posts where I made fun of this, by saying that f zero is for casuals and that animal crossing will ruin nintendo for being a casual game, which it isnt.)
I, for one, love videogames, and I don't care of being casual or hardcore like if it mattered.
Maybe what separates hardcore from casual is the "love" for gaming?
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Captain Jim on September 05, 2008, 12:02:20 AM
I'm gonna settle this once and for all.

Casual is when you play video games without a tie. And hardcore is when you play while eating the remains of an apple that's been left out for a few days, making it brown and crunchy.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Eclipsed Moon on September 05, 2008, 07:52:18 AM
I thought it became soft and mushy.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Turtlekid1 on September 05, 2008, 08:34:31 AM
I have no beef with casuals.  They're just in it to have fun.  I do have something of a bone to pick with Nintendo, who is just in it to make money, and decided to make games for the easier-to-please casuals than the hardcores who want their games challenging, deep, and/or competitive.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Rao on September 05, 2008, 12:29:23 PM
I guess their can be.
No offense, but that should be "there" and not "their."
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: MushroomJunkie on September 05, 2008, 12:52:13 PM
None taken.  I'm suprised Reading didn't correct me for that though....
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Kimimaru on September 05, 2008, 04:26:45 PM
I do have something of a bone to pick with Nintendo, who is just in it to make money...

I HIGHLY disagree with that. Nintendo continues to provide us with entertaining, fun, addictive, and memorable games. If anything, they are the least interested in making money. They put time and effort to make their games, and don't release 3-5 types of the same series on their console within a year, unlike some other companies.

About the casual and hardcore thing: I don't take any of those words into consideration when playing a game. If you want unnecessary, long and pointless cutscenes just so the creators can show off how good they are at making the graphics, then that's what I would call hardcore. People just want to play a game. This means that not long after they press Start, they will expect to be playing the game. In "casual" games, you don't need a tutorial to play, and you must figure out how to do things on your own. Examples of "casual" games are basically all of Nintendo's games: Mario, Zelda, Metroid, etc. Examples of "hardcore" games are Final Fantasy, Suikoden, etc.

Compare the cutscene times in "casual" games to "hardcore" games. It seems like the creators in some "hardcore" games didn't know how to make the game longer, so they put in a lot of cutscenes. It is true that Nintendo games also have cutscenes. The differences are that there aren't extremely long and boring ones at the beginning of the game, most cutscenes are shorter, and the cutscenes don't include unnecessary information.

Well, that's my wrap-up of the words "casual" and "hardcore." Note that this is all my opinion, and any agreements and disagreements are very welcome.     

 
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: PaperLuigi on September 05, 2008, 04:40:07 PM
Kimimaru, we really need more members like you around here.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: ShadowBrain on September 05, 2008, 04:43:55 PM
I've decided that, divisive labels be [darn]ed, I'm just going to do what I've always done: Buy a game if I think it looks good. The fact that most of the games I think look sucky are widely denoted as "casual" can therefore be interpreted however you please.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Glorb on September 05, 2008, 05:31:34 PM
I am of the opinion that "hardcore" does not describe the games, but how you play them. If you spend hours perfecting your score in Peggle, you're hardcore, at least regarding Peggle. If you play Resident Evil but don't try and replay it over and over in under three hours to unlock the infinite rocket launcher, and simply play it for the game itself when you have spare time, you're casual, or at least a normal person.

That doesn't change my stance on the fact that easier, simpler, smaller games are slowly replacing larger, bigger-budget games.
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Post by: Chupperson Weird on September 05, 2008, 06:27:08 PM
You're still wrong! Even if that is happening, pretty much only Nintendo is doing it.
Also, Kimimaru, I think you just made me your enemy.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: ShadowBrain on September 05, 2008, 06:27:41 PM
I am of the opinion that "hardcore" does not describe the games, but how you play them. If you spend hours perfecting your score in Peggle, you're hardcore, at least regarding Peggle. If you play Resident Evil but don't try and replay it over and over in under three hours to unlock the infinite rocket launcher, and simply play it for the game itself when you have spare time, you're casual, or at least a normal person.

That doesn't change my stance on the fact that easier, simpler, smaller games are slowly replacing larger, bigger-budget games.
True, very true... of course, there are certain games that it's, shall we say, "easier" to be "hardcore" at, either because of the game's tone/theme, longevity, and/or variety of options.
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Post by: BP on September 05, 2008, 06:31:51 PM
Well, certainly. Games like Super Mario Bros. just have less steep learning curves than games like F-ZERO.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Kimimaru on September 05, 2008, 09:17:42 PM
Also, Kimimaru, I think you just made me your enemy.

Really? I don't want to be your enemy :(.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: MushroomJunkie on September 05, 2008, 09:41:15 PM
Kimimaru, we really need more members like you around here.

I think we need more members like Luigison.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: PaperLuigi on September 05, 2008, 11:46:23 PM
Really? I don't want to be your enemy :(.

It's too late now. You guys will be forced to battle until the trumpets sound on Judgement Day.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: hydrakiller4000 on September 06, 2008, 07:50:06 AM
The worst videogame I ever played would probably have to be Ecco The Dolphin for Sega Genesis. Good thing I tried it out on the Xbox Live Arcade first.

It's such a bad game, in my opinion. You start out the game with no background or anything, and I couldn't get past the first screen. The other dolphins that you talk to don't help you at all. If you talk to one of them, the dolphin says something like, "Your eyes are like stars in the sky." That's so pointless!

Another dolphin tells you how to dash. Okay, that might be helpful, but dashing is pointless, since if you try it out on a rock blocking your path, it doesn't do anything! I doubt the demo version would give you such a small amount of space to enjoy the game. Plus, you're not usually blocked from anything in a demo version on the Xbox Live Arcade; it just usually stops you at a certain point and offers the full game.

All there is to do in the game is move around through swimming and dashing. Talking to other dolphins doesn't help, and when you talk to them, it has to make a whole new screen with their pointless text.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Eclipsed Moon on September 06, 2008, 08:16:30 AM
I got around to playing Ecco the Dolphin for the first time just last night.  It seemed pretty cool although I didn't figure out a lot.  For the first screen, though, one dolphin told me to see how high I could jump, and then I did, and then it emptied the water and got rid of the rocks in the way and I could proceed.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: penguinwizard on September 06, 2008, 11:22:33 AM
If you can't get past the first level of Ecco, then I don't think you can really say it's a bad game. The first stage is a tutorial of sorts (granted, a very short one). Just jump high enough into the air (I know it took me a few tries before I finally understood how to get the height necessary) like Eclipsed did and then you can progress. The second and third levels are when you start to get into the swing of things.

Personally, I love Ecco the Dolphin for the unique concept, the music (Megadrive and PC versions), and the puzzles along the way. But I will say this: it's a very difficult game. I've only been able to complete it on Easy. Normal is too hard for me. Also, what ruined the Dreamcast/PS2 "Ecco the Dolphin: Defender of the Future" was a notorious lack of helpful hints. The PS2 version made some hints less vague, but it still wasn't enough. Plus, for some reason it was very easy to get lost in that game. So maybe you're experiencing some of that not-helpful stuff in this game. I know there's a part later in the game where you have to "sing" to progress, but it isn't immediately obvious what that means. If you're playing the Megadrive/PC version, you'll see a cutscene that demonstrates it.

IGN's opinion of Ecco was that it was a game thrown out there to bide the time until the next Sonic game, but that now it doesn't have much purpose (maybe IGN thinks other games have done what it does better. Well, I don't see any other dolphin games).

I know that Ecco is very frustrating at times, but give it a chance, that first level is really short. Also, have you heard of trivial dialogue? Doesn't progress the story but is supposed to give more life to the characters? I don't think the trivial dialogue helps much here since none of the dolphins are worth remembering (certain other sea creatures are an exception because there's only one of them), but it's there nonetheless.

I wonder how many people called Myst the worst game they ever played because they didn't know what to do or how to play it. I heard the developers placed the note on the ground just to provide clueless gamers a hint on what to do, but I guess even that wasn't enough.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Nintendoobsessed on September 06, 2008, 11:51:22 AM
I've never played Mist, and I heard it's a good game, but it sounds SO BORING. And in the DS version, it's apparantly hard to find switches.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: missingno on September 06, 2008, 11:55:58 AM
I got around to playing Ecco the Dolphin for the first time just last night.  It seemed pretty cool although I didn't figure out a lot.  For the first screen, though, one dolphin told me to see how high I could jump, and then I did, and then it emptied the water and got rid of the rocks in the way and I could proceed.

I love Ecco the Dolphin




And for another bad game, Where In The World Is Carmen Sandiego? on Genesis. Worst Genesis title I've played to date.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Glorb on September 06, 2008, 12:27:06 PM
I've never played Mist, and I heard it's a good game, but it sounds SO BORING. And in the DS version, it's apparantly hard to find switches.

go play mario kart you NOOB
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: MushroomJunkie on September 06, 2008, 12:34:29 PM
NOOB

Discrimination!
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Glorb on September 06, 2008, 01:34:55 PM
Well, more acurately, prejudice.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: MushroomJunkie on September 06, 2008, 02:04:57 PM
True. Very true.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Glitchy on September 06, 2008, 02:39:59 PM
I just remembered how horrifyingly bad Catz for DS is. Basically, its a retarded, isometric, and bad 3-D game where you buy your cat junk that he doesn't like just so he can make annoying non-cat like sounds. Basically, the whole point of the game is to take pictures of your neighbors cats doing random junk so you can get payed. Seriously, this makes it sound like I hate cats despite they're my favorite animal. I kind of feel bad telling my sister to buy this rather than that Disney Princess game. (Which is better despite the lack of a save system ON THE FREAKIN GBA!!!)
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: MaxVance on September 06, 2008, 04:24:32 PM
There are games released these days that don't have save systems? More importantly, the GBA is still getting games?
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Chupperson Weird on September 06, 2008, 05:14:52 PM
Max needs to know about more games.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Glitchy on September 06, 2008, 06:05:03 PM
There are games released these days that don't have save systems? More importantly, the GBA is still getting games?

Yes and no. Yes, that game doesn't have a save system even though it was invented freakin' 23 years ago, but no the game is (I'm pretty sure) in the pre-DS era.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Chupperson Weird on September 06, 2008, 07:53:57 PM
Like that matters.
Anyway, cartridge games are still sometimes made without saves in order to save a tiny bit of money on batteries, RAM, or flash memory.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Glitchy on September 06, 2008, 08:13:30 PM
Like that matters.
Anyway, cartridge games are still sometimes made without saves in order to save a tiny bit of money on batteries, RAM, or flash memory.

Wow, Disney must be cheap.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: ShadowBrain on September 06, 2008, 09:44:59 PM
*Slaps cuffs on Glitchy*         

You're under arrest for extreme obviousness.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Glorb on September 06, 2008, 10:50:03 PM
Post of...er, never mind. Disregard that.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Zarkanthesmasher on September 07, 2008, 01:39:08 PM
I just thought of one horrible game that I DID own. It was back when I actually had a Playstation 1 (yes, I owned a 10 dollar used one for about half a year - that was back before I knew much about video games). I got a game at a yardsale called Grudge Warriors. It was, to quote David Dayton, horribly horrible. Extremely repetitive and boring multiplayer, terrible graphics, an AWFUL single player "mode," etc. I'd say it would be worth about two cents - and only because you could get a decent minute's worth of fun by smashing it into pieces with a sledgehammer or pointy rock.

Oh, and I don't have that much of a beef with Nintendo - it's the third party hack "companies" that I despise so much. Especially the one that is infamous for the Mythmakers series and actually sold three "games" that were exactly the same except for graphics. :X
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Chupperson Weird on September 07, 2008, 06:44:12 PM
Did you just apologize for owning a PlayStation?
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Turtlekid1 on September 08, 2008, 09:25:12 AM
On the topic of PS1 games, I seem to recall Buzz Lightyear of Star Command being pretty badly done in regards to graphics, story, gameplay, animation, and sounds.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Eclipsed Moon on September 08, 2008, 09:29:25 AM
But the controls were solid.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Zarkanthesmasher on September 08, 2008, 03:29:40 PM
Quote
Did you just apologize for owning a PlayStation?

Not really - but since the Playstation (mostly) stinks, I though I'd give an explanation why I actually had one. :P
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Post by: Turtlekid1 on September 08, 2008, 05:43:19 PM
The Playstation mostly stinks!?

If I weren't as tired, I would take offense at that...
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Chupperson Weird on September 08, 2008, 06:18:48 PM
Well you might as well give an explanation for owning any other console you might have, because most games on any console are terrible. However, the RPG selection on PSX is top notch.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Glorb on September 08, 2008, 06:54:17 PM
Not really - but since the Playstation (mostly) stinks, I though I'd give an explanation why I actually had one. :P

You fail at life.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: SolidShroom on September 08, 2008, 06:56:34 PM
No, he's right. The SNES is a total piece of crap too.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: PaperLuigi on September 09, 2008, 09:31:46 AM
Let's not forget how horrible the Sega Genesis was...
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: CrossEyed7 on September 09, 2008, 09:42:18 AM
Everything except the Magnavox Odyssey sucks.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Turtlekid1 on September 09, 2008, 09:57:28 AM
Well you might as well give an explanation for owning any other console you might have, because most games on any console are terrible. However, the RPG selection on PSX is top notch.

I still have never played FFVII...
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Zarkanthesmasher on September 09, 2008, 12:54:36 PM
Okay, where did this come from? I had no idea that so many people on a Nintendo forum liked the PSX so much - especially considering that the SNES and Sega Genesis are way better, IMO. :P

And on another note, why are all of you getting so defensive about a SONY console? I fail at life because I don't like the PSX? That's almost like an X-box megafan saying that someone fails at life because they don't like a nintendo console. :P

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Well you might as well give an explanation for owning any other console you might have, because most games on any console are terrible. However, the RPG selection on PSX is top notch

Most is an exaggeration.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: SolidShroom on September 09, 2008, 12:57:47 PM
SNES and Genesis may be certainly better, but PS1 is at least somewhat close to their number of excellent games.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Chupperson Weird on September 09, 2008, 01:05:35 PM
No, most is definitely not an exaggeration. Take a look at the number of games on any system in the past 20 years and think about how much junk is in there.

People on the Internet use the word "defensive" in a really strange way. Like, when someone is putting forth any kind of statement against someone else's opinion, they're apparently "defensive", even if they're the ones attacking.

FFVII isn't really the highest on my list of RPGs, either. I mean, it's good, but you have Xenogears, Valkyrie Profile, Suikoden II, Star Ocean: The Second Story...
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Post by: SolidShroom on September 09, 2008, 01:14:49 PM
I need to play some of the games Chup listed. I did really enjoy FFVII, although I think part of its status as one of the best games ever is partly because of the story. It is a little annoying to only have 3 party members, especially since the standard for the series is usually 4.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: MushroomJunkie on September 09, 2008, 01:39:50 PM
No, he's right. The SNES is a total piece of crap too.

Let's not forget how horrible the Sega Genesis was...

Why?

Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: The Chef on September 09, 2008, 01:50:43 PM
Grow a friggin' brain/buy a sarcasm detector already.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: CrossEyed7 on September 09, 2008, 01:54:44 PM
Sturgeon's Law (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SturgeonsLaw).
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Turtlekid1 on September 09, 2008, 04:49:38 PM
I think I just found a new signature...
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Post by: PaperLuigi on September 09, 2008, 05:54:17 PM
Grow a friggin' brain/buy a sarcasm detector already.

Whoa, easy there bud. He may not have gotten the joke/sarcasm, but that's no reason to tell him to "get a brain."
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: The Chef on September 09, 2008, 06:34:23 PM
Hence the slash.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: MushroomJunkie on September 09, 2008, 07:01:44 PM
Grow a friggin' brain/buy a sarcasm detector already.

:(
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Turtlekid1 on September 10, 2008, 10:58:53 AM
Posting a smiley-only message=Even more dislike from people on this forum.
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Post by: MushroomJunkie on September 10, 2008, 11:21:38 AM
It was more like a frowny with a quote.
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Post by: Zarkanthesmasher on September 10, 2008, 03:42:02 PM
No, most is definitely not an exaggeration. Take a look at the number of games on any system in the past 20 years and think about how much junk is in there.

People on the Internet use the word "defensive" in a really strange way. Like, when someone is putting forth any kind of statement against someone else's opinion, they're apparently "defensive", even if they're the ones attacking.

FFVII isn't really the highest on my list of RPGs, either. I mean, it's good, but you have Xenogears, Valkyrie Profile, Suikoden II, Star Ocean: The Second Story...

I would say it is to some extent, because while the MAJORITY of games on basically any console are crud, it's never been as bad as "most of the games" until the Wii. Consoles like the SNES and Gamecube had plenty of crap like cheap liscensed titles, but they also had a ton of good games. The Wii has had some great games, but they've been drowned out not just by that, but by the biggest flood of shovelware we've ever had on one console (and note, I'm considering shovelware to be different from bad liscensed games).

Also, I only used the word defensive because I thought it was a bit ironic that nintendo fans were making posts praising the Playstation - which is made by Sony. Not saying that it's wrong, but it just is kind of funny to me. :P
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: SolidShroom on September 10, 2008, 04:08:43 PM
I'm a fan of good video games myself, that's why I like the Playstation.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: ShadowBrain on September 10, 2008, 04:32:59 PM
I've never extensively played a PS, so I can't say this with too much confidence, but I think the N64 had better games--if only because of Nintendo.
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Post by: Chupperson Weird on September 10, 2008, 08:43:28 PM
It didn't.

Well, okay, for its era, SM64 is pretty near the top.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: missingno on September 10, 2008, 09:57:01 PM
I've never extensively played a PS, so I can't say this with too much confidence, but I think the N64 had better games--if only because of Nintendo.

It's generally quantity vs quality.


The Playstation had more good games, whereas the N64 had better games when it came to the good games.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Chupperson Weird on September 10, 2008, 10:44:23 PM
I'll agree with this, with the exception being RPGs.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: ShadowBrain on September 11, 2008, 07:11:19 AM
Well, you're definitely right there. Man, I wish there were more of those on the Gamecube/Wii... (though I suppose, with all the GBA/DS RPGs, it doesn't matter too much)
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: hydrakiller4000 on September 14, 2008, 07:53:20 AM
Well, I'm just going to say that I found the SNES to be a very enjoyable system. I found a lot of games on it very amusing for long periods of time. Yes, some of the games were made by third-party developers. I own a lot of SNES games. I really don't know how I got them, but I played most of them, and they turned out to be great.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: nensondubois on September 14, 2008, 09:57:31 AM
Indeed there are a lot of good SNES games.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: missingno on September 14, 2008, 04:56:46 PM
Well, I'm just going to say that I found the SNES to be a very enjoyable system. I found a lot of games on it very amusing for long periods of time. Yes, some of the games were made by third-party developers. I own a lot of SNES games. I really don't know how I got them, but I played most of them, and they turned out to be great.

Who says third party games are bad?
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Koopaslaya on September 14, 2008, 09:36:13 PM
I'll agree with this, with the exception being RPGs.

Are you kidding me?! Quest 64 was the best RPG to ever grace my Nintendo 64. </sarcasm>
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Post by: The Chef on September 20, 2008, 04:11:07 PM
The funny thing is, Quest 64 had a pretty funky battle system. They could've gone places with that.
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Post by: ShadowBrain on September 20, 2008, 06:09:55 PM
Wasn't that the one where you could just kind of wander away whenever you felt like it?
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Post by: Toad on September 23, 2008, 04:30:07 PM
Mabey they'll put it on the VC..
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: jdaster64 on September 29, 2008, 03:01:02 PM
I haven't played all that many, but Donkey Kong Land for the GBC was pretty lame.

I may often say I hate SMB2 (japanese) while playing it, due to its insane difficulty in some later levels, but I don't ever mean it.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: chucknorris on October 03, 2008, 06:52:09 PM
Dora the Explorer saves the Mermaids. My friends little sister has it.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: penguinwizard on October 04, 2008, 02:40:30 AM
I haven't played all that many, but Donkey Kong Land for the GBC was pretty lame.
Yeah... Generally felt very foreign, control was spotty (what!? Come on Donkey, your toes touched the platform, that should be enough to make you land on it!), needing to find K-O-N-G in a level before being allowed to save was one of the stupidest things I've ever seen in a game, the game was short, and the graphics were so detailed that you could barely make out what you were looking at. Wonder if it's any coincedence that now my DKL cartridge is messed up, where the graphics for Donkey are just a black square with noise on it.

There were only two things I liked about DKL: That flying pig Hogwash, and the awesome boss music. I'm more familiar with that music being the exact same music as the "Skerries" level in Blast Corps for N64. Which was also my favorite music track from that game.
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Post by: The Chef on October 04, 2008, 08:57:30 AM
I like DKL for it's new level archetypes. I still insist that the GBA remake of DKC should've added Gangplank Galleon, Kremlantis, Monkey Mountain and Big Ape City as extra worlds.
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Post by: Sqrt2 on October 06, 2008, 05:08:59 AM
DK Jungle Beat/ Konga

Why? Let's see shall we:

1) My arms...why are they hurting? Maybe because I've been hitting some crappy bongo peripheral constantly for the past 10 minutes or so!

2) Where the Hell is Rambi, Enguade and co..? Who the f*** is Hoofer for goodness sake?

3) Evil DK's? Looks like they were really burning the midnight oil on that game weren't they? [/sarcasm] And what's wrong with the Kremling Krew?

4) Hardly any of these tracks actually fit with the whole 'bongo-ing rhythm game idea' = EPIC FAIL.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: ShadowBrain on October 06, 2008, 07:21:27 AM
Everyone complains about a lack of Kremlings and Rambi and whatnot, but DK:JB was/is the first DK game made by Nintendo since... the original? I guess they wanted to move away from the Rare stuff (and I can't say I've really liked Kremlings, anyway).
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: The Chef on October 06, 2008, 12:53:04 PM
The Rare stuff was all they had. Before Rare, there was no DK "franchise". It was more or less lumped in with Mario. Hell, Miyamoto deliberately let Rare use DK because the character had no backstory. Therefore, all the things me and Sqrt are complaining about = the DK franchise itself.

Try to imagine a Mario game in the same vein as JB, just try it. (SML1 and 2 at least had Goombas, Koopa Troopas, Pipes and other variants thereof).
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Chupperson Weird on October 06, 2008, 01:13:59 PM
Super Mario Bros. 2?
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: The Chef on October 06, 2008, 04:12:01 PM
SMB2 doesn't count either because it wasn't intended to be a Mario game from the beginning, unlike JB (unless I'm wrong).
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Post by: ShadowBrain on October 06, 2008, 04:44:52 PM
I think SMS is somewhat closer.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: jmdblazer on October 06, 2008, 07:57:36 PM
Hey! Super Mario Sunshine is one of the best Mario platformers.
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Post by: BP on October 06, 2008, 08:03:22 PM
HAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Boo Dudley on October 06, 2008, 08:11:00 PM
If Jungle Beat made your arms hurt, you need to seriously consider doing push-ups once in a while. Besides, the game was designed for short bursts of play anyhow. I think of it as more of an arcade fare--Loose story, and point-based achievements. And I like the JB Kongs. Don't tell me you wouldn't like to see Karate Kong and Cranky go toe-to-toe.

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Worst game I played.... I think my all-time "favorite" must be Evergrace for the PS2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOwOWWXokkw

That or Sonic and the Secret Rings.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Captain Jim on October 06, 2008, 08:15:32 PM
Worst game I've ever played? Well, the other day, my brother picked up the GBA "game" Yu-Gi-Oh Double Pack 2, with "Destiny Board Traveler" and "Dungeon Dice Monsters"...

...it's bad. You'd have to play it yourself, but I don't recommend it.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: CrossEyed7 on October 06, 2008, 09:14:07 PM
Mario Sunshine is definitely one of the top ten 3D Mario platformers of this decade.

Also: Screw the rules, I have green hair!
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Uvaz on October 06, 2008, 11:19:32 PM
dungeon dice monsters was cool. At least it entertained me. I mean, I beat all the enemies with the same tactic (Blocking the enemy's monsters' access to me, and using a flying or underground monster to move unto my opponent without caring about his monsters. After three turns it was game.) Actually I didn't completely beat it. I traded it for chuchu rocket, and I still have like 2000 puzzles to solve so...
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: ShadowBrain on October 07, 2008, 06:57:01 AM
Hey! Super Mario Sunshine is one of the best Mario platformers.
I didn't say it was bad, I was implying that it had a ton of "non-Mario" enemies.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: missingno on October 07, 2008, 07:20:33 AM
Worst game I've ever played? Well, the other day, my brother picked up the GBA "game" Yu-Gi-Oh Double Pack 2, with "Destiny Board Traveler" and "Dungeon Dice Monsters"...

...it's bad. You'd have to play it yourself, but I don't recommend it.

I hate Yu-Gi-Oh! too, it's definitely on my list, I have a PS1 and GBA Yu-Gi-Oh! game, and I played the PS1 game, and I took my opponent to 0 life, and I somehow lost.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: The Chef on October 07, 2008, 01:44:13 PM
Mario Sunshine is definitely one of the top ten 3D Mario platformers of this decade.

...but there's only three 3D Mario platformers in existence.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: jmdblazer on October 07, 2008, 04:25:34 PM
New Super Mario Bros. was a 3d platformer.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: BriGuy92 on October 07, 2008, 04:51:51 PM
Incorrect. NSMB is a 2D platformer with 3D graphics. You can only move in two dimensions, though, which makes it 2D.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Kuromatsu on October 07, 2008, 09:51:29 PM
What about Super Paper Mario?
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: missingno on October 08, 2008, 11:03:55 AM
RPG.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: ShadowBrain on October 08, 2008, 04:15:39 PM
I think when everybody here says "3-D platformer", it's assumed they're referring to the full-roaming SM64, SMS, or SMG (though, to be honest, I think SPM was more full-roaming than SMG in some cases).
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Chupperson Weird on October 08, 2008, 05:25:28 PM
Well that was the idea, and why SMG is a more well-designed game than its predecessors.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Boo Dudley on October 08, 2008, 05:32:45 PM
This is why the terms 'Side-Scroller' and 'Full-Roaming' exist. But what do I know.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: BP on October 08, 2008, 06:37:46 PM
I think SPM was more full-roaming than SMG in some cases.

Oh yeah, and it was great! Like that super corridor in Castle Bleck where you really had no idea where you were going! Every game should have ten of those.

Mmmm... is backtracking really that fun to you?
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: BriGuy92 on October 08, 2008, 08:42:17 PM
I played the first few worlds of SPM and then decided I didn't like it. It was too gimmicky and un-Paper Mario.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: ShadowBrain on October 08, 2008, 09:47:39 PM
Mmmm... is backtracking really that fun to you?
No, but going in more directions than forward is. And I never said SPM have more full-roamingness than SMG was a good or bad thing.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: jmdblazer on October 08, 2008, 10:10:36 PM
Well that was the idea, and why SMG is a more well-designed game than its predecessors.
I do not like games that are "get from point A to point B" most of the time. This is why PiT is disliked, yet liked in SMG? I'd much rather have a free roaming game like SMS or SM64.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: The Chef on October 09, 2008, 07:36:59 AM
PiT is an RPG, SMG is a platformer. End of discussion.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Uvaz on October 09, 2008, 05:01:45 PM
All platformers are about getting from point A to point B. Even in Mario 64 where there is more freedom (More ways to get to B), you still have to get to B.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: BP on October 09, 2008, 05:15:42 PM
Yeah you can always do things wrong. There was at least one star I always got the wrong way: I always tried to land on the caged island in Whomp's Fortress using the cannon and wondered why a star on the second level was so hard to get. Never knew about the owl. I think there were some in Tiny-Huge Island I didn't do right, also.

Ultimately I think if it's like Super Mario 64 where you are given one objective at a time, it should be a little more linear like Galaxy (with some galaxies being less, like the Honeyhive and Beach Bowl Galaxies). In Zelda, there are many goals you can accomplish in no particular order and can roam around, something Twilight Princess lacked and Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask were packed with. The midpoint is like Banjo-Kazooie, where the objectives are kind of unique and kind of intertwined, but you can really go at it any way you want.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Glorb on October 09, 2008, 06:24:00 PM
I still think there needs to be a free-roaming game with full time-travel capabilities, like MM on steroids. I'm talking a full week-long timeline full of scripted events that implements the butterfly effect and the BTTF model of time travel (where you can go back and see/mess with your past self).
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Chocobo on October 12, 2008, 01:05:43 PM
The last two pages seem to be a debate about something or another, but I'll comment on the original topic:

Two games: Attack of the Killer Tomatoes and Sonic 2006.

Attack of the Killer Tomatoes was a sidescroller for the NES that was actually based on the Saturday morning cartoon and less so than on the movie. The collision detection is the worst I've seen in a 2D game. Most of the enemies are round and tomatoes shaped but half of the time you try to jump on them the game decides that the Tomatoe hurt you, as opposed to you hurting the tomato. Which means that trying to attack your enemies is often a fast ticket to death and it makes it seem like it's better to just run...But they hop around, and turn direction, and some of them chase you. Urgh. I'm always amazed that this doesn't get brought up more often in 'terrible game' polls...I guess that most people are fortunate enough not to have experienced it.

As a kid I was very easy to please. I still am; really. It's hard to make me hate something. But I hated that game as a kid. I ended up selling it at a garage sale my family and my babysitter's was involved in. I had put $5.00 as the price tag on it but the only kid who was interested said he only had $3.00 on him, so I let him have it for that. That's also the only game I've ever sold so far.

Sonic 2006...Is probably worse than Attack of the Killer Tomatoes. AotKT, though, is only like five levels long, or so I got the impression. I only got to level three once or twice. But Sonic 2006 is a long game made even longer by horrendous load times. The depth to which things are faulty or glitchy is just amazing...I honestly think that Sonic2k6 should be studied by serious game developers so that they can avoid the pitfalls in their own projects. Some people just give up on the game a level or two in but if you keep going you find out that it just keeps getting worse and worse. *jibblie jibblie*
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Glorb on October 12, 2008, 01:39:26 PM
I couldn't agree more with either choice, although my main issue with Sonic '06 was the beastiality factor.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Lizard Dude on October 12, 2008, 02:20:24 PM
It's not beastiality if everyone's sentient.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Boo Dudley on October 12, 2008, 02:26:04 PM
Cognizant on the other hand...
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Glorb on October 12, 2008, 02:47:49 PM
It's not beastiality if everyone's sentient.

Sonic's not sentient. His action are controlled by some creepy dude holding a controller that exists outside of his plane of reality.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: ShadowBrain on October 12, 2008, 06:21:18 PM
So now you're forcing a hedgehog to get turned on by a human instead.

Tomatoe
Dan Qualye? Is that you?
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Lizard Dude on October 13, 2008, 07:06:01 PM
Sonic's not controlled by a dude during the cutscenes, where most of said beastiality happens.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Glorb on October 13, 2008, 07:14:01 PM
That's not the way I played it.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: CrossEyed7 on October 13, 2008, 07:45:40 PM
Sonic's not controlled by a dude during the cutscenes, where most of said beastiality happens.
Necrophilia?
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: ShadowBrain on October 13, 2008, 09:40:29 PM
Well, there's a lot of cheap deaths in those games, but I don't think they happen during the cutscenes... much less in conjection with "foolin' around".
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Glorb on October 13, 2008, 10:33:10 PM
Not the way I play it.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: ShadowBrain on November 18, 2008, 05:35:15 PM
http://www.cubed3.com/news/11116

Well, I don't know about the worst videogame ever, but... wow.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: WarpRattler on November 18, 2008, 05:49:42 PM
I tried the DS version a while back. It's worse than Eternity's Child by a long shot. I don't imagine the Wii version being much better.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Luigalaxy on November 18, 2008, 07:43:05 PM
Sonic 2k6, never played. I hated Sonic around that time. So, no comment. Sonic Heroes, TONS of cheap deaths. It took me months to get all the Chaos Emeralds and hurt my thumbs. As for horrible quality-wise, 007 Nightfire's Multiplayer. I'm shooting a guy in the chest with a sniper rifle, nothing. CHEAP.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: penguinwizard on November 19, 2008, 03:05:40 AM
http://www.cubed3.com/news/11116

Well, I don't know about the worst videogame ever, but... wow.
Even though that's highly likely to be a joke, it's still very funny. It'd be interesting to see the worst-selling games sometime because quality doesn't tell anything about sales anymore, but chances are all the contenders would be games from no-name companies I didn't even know existed.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Silver Metaknight on December 24, 2008, 12:06:46 PM
I have the say the worst Sonic game I've played is definetly Sonic Riders.  The controls where horrid, so was the camera.  And beating the tasks and unlocking everything becomes a huge choir thanks to the cheap A.I.  It's difficult for all the wrong reasons.  Sonic Heroes is good, but not great,  getting the chaos emeralds isn't so bad if you have a turbo.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: ShadowBrain on December 24, 2008, 04:10:26 PM
Sonic Riders... yeah, it looked kind of neat, but the only time I played it was real quick on a demo at Game Crazy--more like fiddling around, really. Granted, I didn't have much time to get used to the controls, but what I played was... okay (how it got a sequel with the reviews--and no doubt sales--it garnered, I'll never know). As for Sonic Heroes, that was the first Sonic game on the GCN that I full-out balked at getting, perhaps ironic because, as a young, impressionable gamer, I bought Sonic Adventure DX and Sonic Adventure 2: Battle, games which, although not outright bad, I would probably not seriously consider were they not re-released until today.

(I also bought Sonic Mega Collection and Sonic Gems. Though the latter is somewhat mistitled, it's not that terrible, if only because of Sonic R's so-bad-it's-good vibe that has lent my friends and I many a mirthful get-together)
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Captain Jim on December 24, 2008, 07:22:30 PM
And beating the tasks and unlocking everything becomes a huge choir thanks to the cheap A.I. 

Mormon Tabernacle? Or some other huge choir?
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: FlamingBlueMario on December 28, 2008, 04:41:03 AM
The worst video game I've ever played was Pokemon Dash.
Man, I traded that thing in so fast...*sigh* anyway, it was a really, really bad game.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: nensondubois on December 28, 2008, 10:53:39 AM
There's a new bad Pokemon game coming out for DS but I'm not sure what it is called. If you think all those games you have all played are bad then you will probably never want to play any game after playing the ultimately flawed game of Action 52 for the NES. I couldn't even beat one game without dying for no apparent reason or the game freezing on me and sometimes resetting. And no, that happens on real hardware. The music is even plagiarized from some old mod tracking program. This is one game not worth a dime or time.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: ShadowBrain on December 28, 2008, 01:06:05 PM
There's a new bad Pokemon game coming out for DS
Pokemon Ranger: Shadows of Almia (and yes, it probably will suck, but it's no fair to pass judgement before it comes out).
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Wii-Player on December 29, 2008, 10:59:03 PM
Hmm, Sonic Advance 2. The game was too easy, and too boring
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: ShadowBrain on December 30, 2008, 07:59:51 AM
Those were some extraordinarily generic games, but I bought and enjoyed all three.

On that note, I've heard the StH remake on the GBA was pretty bad.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: WarpRattler on December 30, 2008, 10:39:33 AM
Sonic the Hedgehog Genesis wasn't a remake, it was a port of a version of the game that didn't originally go to retail.

It still sucked, though.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: ShadowBrain on December 30, 2008, 11:54:22 AM
What exactly does "version" imply?
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: FlamingBlueMario on December 30, 2008, 07:37:19 PM
Another terrible game (and I think this one takes the cake) is Mario's Time Machine. Good god, that game was so boring!
I was only 6 or 7 when I rented that game and didn't know that it was educational!! I thought it was a sequel to Super Mario World...man, was I wrong. -_-"
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Insane Steve on December 31, 2008, 02:11:19 AM
I have a winner, after researching the list I mentioned earlier... Pachi Com for the NES.

You hold a button and balls fall into a virtual Pachinko machine. THAT IS THE WHOLE GAME
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Glorb on December 31, 2008, 10:53:41 AM
I think Steve posted in the wrong thread by mistake. This isn't the Best Games Ever Thread.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: ShadowBrain on January 03, 2009, 09:00:07 AM
http://themushroomkingdom.net/board/index.php?topic=11991.msg521270#msg521270

Updated, for those interested.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: The Chef on January 03, 2009, 11:56:00 AM
What exactly does "version" imply?

They lost the source code for the final release of the game, so they instead released an unfinished beta version.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: CrossEyed7 on January 03, 2009, 12:50:33 PM
They must have left it next to the Wavebird mold.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: LuigiBros on February 15, 2009, 08:30:45 PM
I don't care how famous the Zelda games are, I just can't enjoy them, I've only played two but the first one was unenjoyable.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: BriGuy92 on February 15, 2009, 08:42:50 PM
Well maybe if you'd expand your experience a bit, you'd come to realize that the series as a whole is better than you think. The first two Zelda games are definitely not as fun as the rest.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: LuigiBros on February 15, 2009, 08:43:33 PM
Well maybe if you'd expand your experience a bit, you'd come to realize that the series as a whole is better than you think. The first two Zelda games are definitely not as fun as the rest.

I hated Ocarina of Time.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Boo Dudley on February 15, 2009, 08:46:43 PM
Well, you're just not human.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Boo Dudley on February 15, 2009, 08:49:13 PM
I was only 6 or 7 when I rented that game and didn't know that it was educational!!

I KNOW, RIGHT? WHAT HAS EDUCATION DONE FOR THE WORLD?
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: LuigiBros on February 15, 2009, 08:51:15 PM
Well, you're just not human.

I disliked a game what's wrong with that?
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: BriGuy92 on February 15, 2009, 08:53:44 PM
It was a joke, man. No big deal. So you didn't like Ocarina of Time. I can live with that. I'd be careful about saying I don't like what is just about the most popular game in the history of Nintendo though.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: LuigiBros on February 15, 2009, 09:24:45 PM
It was a joke, man. No big deal. So you didn't like Ocarina of Time. I can live with that. I'd be careful about saying I don't like what is just about the most popular game in the history of Nintendo though.

I don't hate Super Mario Bros. at all, but if someone did that's their opinion and it's perfectly fine.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: jmdblazer on February 15, 2009, 09:46:53 PM
He's trying to tell you that Ocarina of time is the most popular game. You'd have some pretty upset fanboys if you said that on another forum.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Chupperson Weird on February 15, 2009, 11:22:31 PM
I enjoyed LoZ. And OoT.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: ShadowBrain on February 16, 2009, 07:12:23 AM
Maybe you should try Phantom Hourglass, Luig bro.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Morton-Koopa-Jr on February 17, 2009, 10:11:15 AM
XMen 3 on the DS is a truly awful game and I haven't disliked a game as much in a long, long time.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Weegee on February 17, 2009, 08:45:56 PM
Movie-licenced games sucking? What?! Unheard of!

Anyways, I'd say that Ocarina of Time is a pretty good game, but grossly overrated nonetheless. Comparing it to Twilight Princess is inevitable, and I find OoT to pale in comparison on almost every count -- chunkier-feeling controls, chore-like Ocarina warping... yeah. Perhaps I had just been expecting perfection from a game considered the greatest ever in the all-knowing eyes of Nintendo Power's editors.

I expect a horde of enraged Zelda fanboys to emerge from this forum and claw my eyes out within the next minute for the above statement.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: CrossEyed7 on February 17, 2009, 08:50:13 PM
When I first played OoT, I loved it more than any other game I had ever played. Then I played WW. Then I tried to go back to OoT, and I couldn't. There's a great game in there, but it's bogged down by choppy framerates, poor sound quality, technically outdated graphics, and simply by having been around for eleven years (the Seinfeld Is Unfunny (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SeinfeldIsUnfunny) effect), and without nostalgia goggles, it can be hard to enjoy today.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Weegee on February 17, 2009, 09:08:52 PM
Exactly. Also, putting games on a pedestal as such really leave it open for criticism from later gaming generations. Take Super Mario Bros., for instance: "Why doesn't Fire Mario revert to Super Mario like he does in NSMB?"

Of course, this could lead to a tangent on the antiestablishment zeitgeist and how automatic disagreement with what "the Man" considers "good" could be regarded as a statement of belonging with fellow blatant critics of orthodox society more than as a voice of one's actual opinion, so let's get back to the discussion at hand.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: BP on February 18, 2009, 01:28:28 AM
without nostalgia goggles, it can be hard to enjoy today.
I challenge that. OoT has some of the best dungeons (Well of Three Features! Spirit Temple!), the storyline that essentially creates two versions of Hyrule to explore, and the N64's controller is perfect for Zelda (I did like WW's camera control, but hate using Z. I did like Wii TP's point-and-shoot control, but hate swinging the remote).

I agree that compared to today's games, OoT is oooooold. It needs an enhanced remake, dangit.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Chupperson Weird on February 18, 2009, 01:52:58 AM
OoT totally wins in the music department. I can actually remember most of the music to it, compared to the few tunes in WW that were written by Kondo and the better-than-WW TP soundtrack. It does have good dungeons as well. I think I like TP slightly more, but that's just due to control and comprehensibility.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Boo Dudley on February 18, 2009, 10:22:25 AM
[...]the storyline that essentially creates two versions of Hyrule to explore,[...]

I agree that compared to today's games, OoT is oooooold. It needs an enhanced remake, dangit.

A Link to Past beat that to the punch... Like most of the game.

And no, no more remakes, especially for games that are still available to the general public. Maybe Metroid II but that's it.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: nensondubois on February 18, 2009, 02:15:12 PM
What about Super Metroid? Does that not deserve a good remake?
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: The Chef on February 18, 2009, 02:15:33 PM
I must be one of those lucky ones that gets a kick out of outdated graphics and sound. I find something inherently charming about it.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: nensondubois on February 18, 2009, 02:18:07 PM
You must love the Wii. Really bad graphics Wii joke
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: The Chef on February 18, 2009, 02:19:02 PM
You're not clever.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: nensondubois on February 18, 2009, 02:22:27 PM
The Wii graphics are like modern day Game & Watch's! I hate the Wii graphics soo much, what a disappointment. The Gamecube wins in that department oh no wait,The Wii is a  Gamecube with double the memory.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Chupperson Weird on February 18, 2009, 03:13:20 PM
A Link to the Past is not nearly as fun as Ocarina of Time.
Enhanced remakes are totally cool as long as they're done well.
I don't see why Super Metroid would really need one though, because it's still pretty good-looking. The music is good too. Too bad the game is boring as heck.
I like old games and stuff too.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Weegee on February 18, 2009, 03:32:56 PM
I don't really see a need for enhanced versions of post-NES games. Graphics of the Super Nintendo era and beyond are still considered appreciable in most gaming circles, am I right? If anyone disagrees that Super Mario World still has a timeless, whimsical charm due, in part, to its unique graphics, I'll claw their eyes out.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: The Chef on February 18, 2009, 04:50:53 PM
The Wii graphics are like modern day Game & Watch's! I hate the Wii graphics soo much, what a disappointment. The Gamecube wins in that department oh no wait,The Wii is a  Gamecube with double the memory.

*rolls eyes*
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Boo Dudley on February 18, 2009, 04:51:17 PM
If you didn't play Metroid II when it was first released, it's very hard to pick it up now. Not that it's a bad game, just the graphics and sound have aged really badly. The same can't be said for Super, which is fine as-is.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: BriGuy92 on February 18, 2009, 08:37:41 PM
Ugh, the sound in Metroid 2 makes me RAGE. Which is a shame, because the music (whenever there is any) is genius.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Toad on February 18, 2009, 08:52:07 PM
At the risk of being ridiculed, I want to say that the Metroid series seriously freaked me out when I was younger. It got to the point that I had to sell Metroid 2 and Super Metroid because I kept having nightmares about playing both of those games.

That must be part of the reason I've taken so long to finish Metroid Prime: just recently did I get to the final boss after letting my save just sit there for almost 8 months. The Space Pirates in the Mines really freaked me out.

I wonder if/when Nintendo will make another side-scrolling Metroid. On the VC, maybe (Super Metroid 2?)
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Weegee on February 18, 2009, 09:16:30 PM
Nothing in the world of Metroid freaked me out quite as much as discovering that Samus (or "Metroid" as we knew her back in 2001) was a woman. Who'd have thunk it?

Has the original Metroid even arrived on the Virtual Console yet? My apologies for being so tragically out of the loop.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: BriGuy92 on February 18, 2009, 09:23:11 PM
Yeah, it's been there since August of 2007.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Weegee on February 18, 2009, 09:34:17 PM
Of course it was. That was... err, a test for you all. Oh yes indeedy. (https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhuzzlesnap.freeforums.org%2Ffiles%2Fhuzzlesnap%2Fsmilies%2FMSN_Shifty_eyes_by_death_au.gif&hash=f7d7d11945ea84cab1bf3194bae0da47)
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Chupperson Weird on February 18, 2009, 10:39:55 PM
Who the heck is "we"? You find out that Samus is a girl in the original Metroid in 1986.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Weegee on February 19, 2009, 03:40:44 PM
Who the heck is "we"? You find out that Samus is a girl in the original Metroid in 1986.

I meant most people who were halfway through elementary school in 2001.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Glorb on February 19, 2009, 04:33:48 PM
SAMUS IS A GIRL?

lol, but srsly, Nintendo needs to make a totally horror-themed 2D side-scrolling Metroid for DS.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: bullykoopa96 on April 05, 2009, 01:46:08 PM
Dragon's Lair for NES was the cream of the crap for me...like wow

Astronomically bad!  Unless you have a thing for piles of bones
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Glorb on April 06, 2009, 03:16:47 PM
Just throwing this out there:

Samus (or "Metroid" as we knew her back in 2001)
(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ficanhazbailout.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2008%2F04%2Flolwut_greenspan.jpg&hash=18f4e876f7998119be44b252ccb057c8)
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: World 6 Retainer on April 06, 2009, 04:52:27 PM
   To find the worst games out there, you need to shove your hands deep into the corporate sleaze.  *does so, and pulls out a grimy looking cart for game boy color that says "SHREK: fairytale freakdown"

Oh, Barbie pet rescue is in here too

...and an episode of Kids Next Door!? They made a game out o-oh, wait, no it's just an episode of it in a GBA cart. I'm finding these [darn] things all over EB games.

  THE ADVENTUWES OF BAYOU BIWWY: The little NES game that tried and tried, but tried too hard. If it wasn't for the fact that you are "Guar un' teed!" to get your ass kicked by up to maybe five guys at once that all take eleven hits to kill, this wouldn't have been such a bad game. In fact, I'd recommend you look in to the Japanese version, "Mad City".    Ironically, this bad game was a Konami Title.

  TOP*GUN: whoa hold on there tex! This one wasn't in the manure pile! AVGN had his time screaming at it, for sure, but the game really isn't that bad if you're patient enough. The reason AVGN failed to land in his video was because he "Look at all this crap on the screen! Altitude? Speed!? What do I need this crap for!?". Trust me, you need to be watching that stuff when you land. Try to match up with what's on the main display.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Glorb on April 06, 2009, 05:02:13 PM
Bayou Billy is the biggest badass ever. And while funny, nothing the AVGN says is ever true.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: World 6 Retainer on April 06, 2009, 06:40:47 PM
 Yeah, Bayou Billy kicks alligators in the face and throws grenades at airplanes. Still, problem is he's more badass than the gamer.

Also, I put up Top Gun to compare to Bayou Billy, since they're both Konami games and Konami USUALLY makes really awesome titles. And, these two are interesting cases.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: wheelman543 on April 11, 2009, 09:19:15 PM
redacted
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: Glorb on April 12, 2009, 01:37:13 AM
Astro Empires. No matter what new systems are in place, you will never have any actual fun unless you've been playing since the creation of whatever server you're on, are in a massive guild, have an upgraded account, and farm every other player you come across.

Still playing it, though.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: WarpRattler on April 12, 2009, 01:51:39 AM
You know, Glorb, I was actually expecting you to be saying that when I clicked on this thread, and I agree on pretty much all counts.

I tried to play Eternity's Child earlier to see if it really is as bad as my first time playing it led me to believe, but Steam kept giving me a "this game is currently unavailable" error. A quick check reveals...yep, still giving me the same error.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: World 6 Retainer on April 12, 2009, 10:24:53 AM
Quote
Super Noah's ark 3D for the SNES. It was a terrible Doom clone. The graphics were lame, the stages were lame, and you have to feed/kill animals with a slingshot. Awful


NOAH KILLS ANIMALS

  Also, Ikari Warriors II: Victory Road.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: WarpRattler on September 05, 2011, 09:35:50 AM
Wow, why did this thread die? Aside from Glorb being banned, I mean.

Tsugunai: Atonement is a pretty terrible PS2 RPG. Horrible loading times, and the combat is excruciatingly slow. With either of those issues taken care of, I'd probably enjoy it quite a bit, but...

Also, I finally was able to play Eternity's Child at one point, and it actually wasn't that bad. The collision detection was a bit off (leading to a lot of botched jumps that shouldn't have been that way), and I seem to recall enemies taking far too long to kill, but it wasn't anything close to "worst game ever" material, and it does look really nice.

Also, Technicbeat is probably the worst rhythm game I've ever played.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: TEM on September 06, 2011, 04:12:16 PM
Superman 64.

Cliché, but man, that was the most awful video game that I have ever personally played.
Title: Re: What's the worst videogame you've ever played?
Post by: WarpRattler on September 14, 2011, 02:03:38 PM
I played the Beat'n Groovy trial this morning.

It's rare that a game makes me feel insulted, but Beat'n Groovy did just that.

It's not fundamentally bad - it's pop'n music minus the nine-button option, leaving five-button and a three-button mode for beginners - but the fact that Konami doesn't think westerners can handle the real deal (as proven not just by Beat'n Groovy, but also by pop'n music on the Wii and the four-button pop'n music game made for the US) is saddening, to say the least.