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Title: Does it matter the order to play Paper Mario games?
Post by: Superluigui on November 28, 2009, 01:21:30 PM
Hi everybody I'm new here and I have a question.
OK I just bought Paper Mario and the Tousand-Year Door and I have Paper Mario 64 for Wii's Virtual Console already. I don't beat Paper Mario 64 yet (I'm stuck with Toy Box's Boss) and does it matter if I play Paper Mario 2 already? Or should I beat Paper Mario 64 first?

PD: I live in Mexico, so excuse my bad english
PDD: You may think that my username is "Superluigui" because of Mario's brother, Luigui is actually my real name!
Title: Re: Does it matter the order to play Paper Mario games?
Post by: Toad on November 28, 2009, 01:43:03 PM
It doesn't really matter what order you play the games in, but there are some injokes from the first game that appear in the next games. But no, no previous experience is required, though I would do it anyway. The Paper Mario series is a great series. :)
Title: Re: Does it matter the order to play Paper Mario games?
Post by: PaperLuigi on November 28, 2009, 03:01:16 PM
The two games have no connection apart from the title and gameplay. A few characters from the first game make cameo appearances in the second one, however.
Title: Re: Does it matter the order to play Paper Mario games?
Post by: ShadowBrain on November 28, 2009, 07:23:40 PM
I personally wouldn't play a game and its sequel simultaneously, but... no, I did that when I got stuck on Viewtiful Joe. Anyway, well, these guys are right, the two games aren't really connected, but if you want to see the, uh, evolution of the series from PM to TTYD, I'd wait it out.
Title: Re: Does it matter the order to play Paper Mario games?
Post by: Superluigui on November 29, 2009, 11:49:14 AM
Thank you for your answers, i will beat Paper Mario 64 first then, I love references and injokes
Title: Re: Does it matter the order to play Paper Mario games?
Post by: jdaster64 on November 29, 2009, 03:04:37 PM
Play the first, then the second to catch some of the nods the second one has to the first.  Don't play the third.
Title: Re: Does it matter the order to play Paper Mario games?
Post by: Weegee on November 29, 2009, 03:28:11 PM
Play the first, then the second to catch some of the nods the second one has to the first.  Don't play the third.

That's sage wisdom, folks. Take it to heart.

Toad: Name your next kid Luigui, regardless of its gender.
Title: Re: Does it matter the order to play Paper Mario games?
Post by: Toad on November 29, 2009, 03:47:57 PM
Thanks for the name suggestion. It's going into the hat suggestion box. Our next kid will have his/her name randomly drawn from the hat box.

Don't play the third.

What's wrong with SPM (Super Paper Mario, for the un-informed)? I thought it was great..
Title: Re: Does it matter the order to play Paper Mario games?
Post by: Reading on November 29, 2009, 04:11:26 PM
There's even more references and in-jokes in Super Paper Mario, so you'd probably want to play it.
Title: Re: Does it matter the order to play Paper Mario games?
Post by: ShadowBrain on November 29, 2009, 06:06:17 PM
It's not all that original, and technically not an RPG, but SPM is still a great game.
Title: Re: Does it matter the order to play Paper Mario games?
Post by: jdaster64 on November 29, 2009, 06:37:42 PM
I guess it's not really that bad, but I never finished it, due to it being way too easy, and probably never will.  It has nothing on the gameplay of the first two, either.
Title: Re: Does it matter the order to play Paper Mario games?
Post by: Reading on November 29, 2009, 07:01:14 PM
I think you'll probably like Super Paper Mario if you liked the first two, since a lot of the non-gameplay aspects are similar (and quite a few details of the gameplay are similar, too). It isn't a true RPG like the first two, but that doesn't stop it from being a great game; personally, I think it's the second greatest Mario game ever created (my first is Galaxy). I would highly recommend it if you're playing the whole Paper Mario series.
Title: Re: Does it matter the order to play Paper Mario games?
Post by: waddle_doo on November 29, 2009, 08:35:49 PM
Hi everybody I'm new here and I have a question.
OK I just bought Paper Mario and the Tousand-Year Door and I have Paper Mario 64 for Wii's Virtual Console already. I don't beat Paper Mario 64 yet (I'm stuck with Toy Box's Boss) and does it matter if I play Paper Mario 2 already? Or should I beat Paper Mario 64 first?

PD: I live in Mexico, so excuse my bad english
PDD: You may think that my username is "Superluigui" because of Mario's brother, Luigui is actually my real name!

to beat general guy, go get some recovery AND attack items. and you need spark or whatever his/her name is
Title: Re: Does it matter the order to play Paper Mario games?
Post by: jdaster64 on November 29, 2009, 09:15:30 PM
I think you'll probably like Super Paper Mario if you liked the first two, since a lot of the non-gameplay aspects are similar (and quite a few details of the gameplay are similar, too)

Loved PM to death, liked TTYD a lot as well, SPM seemed all quite meh to me.  Just sayin'.

And what is similar in the gameplay?  I fail to see any notable similarity.
Title: Re: Does it matter the order to play Paper Mario games?
Post by: ShadowBrain on November 29, 2009, 10:55:14 PM
I never finished it, due to it being way too easy
Someone get me that Mark Wahlberg .gif.
Title: Re: Does it matter the order to play Paper Mario games?
Post by: PaperLuigi on November 30, 2009, 02:56:25 AM
Super Paper Mario is an awesome game. There is absolutely no reason not to play it.
Title: Re: Does it matter the order to play Paper Mario games?
Post by: Turtlekid1 on November 30, 2009, 07:36:58 AM
Despite the combat in SPM paling in comparison to TTYD's unique, simplistic RPG-style battles, SPM is worth playing, but I'd recommend that if you do play it, do it before you play the first two, so the shock won't hit you as hard.

Title: Re: Does it matter the order to play Paper Mario games?
Post by: Chupperson Weird on November 30, 2009, 11:26:11 AM
"Combat", by which you mean pretty much normal Mario platforming...
Title: Re: Does it matter the order to play Paper Mario games?
Post by: PaperLuigi on November 30, 2009, 11:39:22 AM
Despite the combat in SPM paling in comparison to TTYD's unique, simplistic RPG-style battles

"Paling" in comparison? How so?
Title: Re: Does it matter the order to play Paper Mario games?
Post by: Weegee on November 30, 2009, 02:58:32 PM
Damage-based platforming with wonky hit detection just isn't a recipe for success.
Title: Re: Does it matter the order to play Paper Mario games?
Post by: Turtlekid1 on November 30, 2009, 03:20:37 PM
"Paling" in comparison? How so?
All you have to do to beat most enemies and bosses is move slightly to either side to compensate for the recoil of your last jump.  To cite a rather extreme instance, it's possible to reach level 99 in about half an hour with this method (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TenhG5tHoKU) (that's not to say that TTYD door doesn't have its game-breakers, but they're a tad bit harder to set up and still require you to go through most, if not all, of the story to use them). 

RPG and platformer battle mechanics can be mixed, and mixed well, I just didn't care for how SPM's battles were done.  Also, Weegee has a point about the collision detection.
Title: Re: Does it matter the order to play Paper Mario games?
Post by: jdaster64 on November 30, 2009, 03:31:56 PM
this method

Exactly.
Title: Re: Does it matter the order to play Paper Mario games?
Post by: Reading on November 30, 2009, 06:06:57 PM
...what is similar in the gameplay?  I fail to see any notable similarity.
The way the game is set up is similar; the game is divided into chapters where Mario collects a certain item and then returns to a hub area, and the HP/Attack/Defense system is similar (although not in RPG), with items, coins to spend, and all of that. It's essentially a platforming game in an RPG format.
Title: Re: Does it matter the order to play Paper Mario games?
Post by: Turtlekid1 on November 30, 2009, 06:52:05 PM
Actually, everything but the actual gameplay is virtually a carbon copy, what with all the similar elements and the re-used models/sprites and sound effects.
Title: Re: Does it matter the order to play Paper Mario games?
Post by: Chupperson Weird on November 30, 2009, 07:16:16 PM
I hope you realize how little sense you're making.
Title: Re: Does it matter the order to play Paper Mario games?
Post by: Weegee on November 30, 2009, 07:44:41 PM
Why? He has a point, although recycling good graphics and FX isn't necessarily a negative tactic.
Title: Re: Does it matter the order to play Paper Mario games?
Post by: Toad on November 30, 2009, 09:19:30 PM
Look how well it has worked for the Pokemon series too.
Title: Re: Does it matter the order to play Paper Mario games?
Post by: ShadowBrain on November 30, 2009, 10:02:10 PM
And Mario Galaxy, and NSMB, and Phantom Hourglass... Well, maybe not "good" for that last one.
Title: Re: Does it matter the order to play Paper Mario games?
Post by: Trainman on December 01, 2009, 10:29:11 PM
but I never finished it, due to it being way too easy

Haven't heard that one before...