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Title: can it be fixed
Post by: queeny on March 16, 2008, 02:20:58 PM
my mac note book fell on the floor the other day and now it will not boot up it just shows the loading disk when i turn it on.
its not even a year old but mac say it is not covered because it fell on the floor.
i called a laptop repair shop but they said it will cost £40 just to take a look at it and the bloke said they are very costly and hard to fix.

is this true would it be cheaper to buy a new mac than to get it repaired. queeny 
Title: Re: can it be fixed
Post by: MaxVance on March 16, 2008, 02:25:37 PM
Are you sure it's a hardware problem, anyway? Sounds to me like something happened with the hard drive and the OS got deleted or corrupted.

Run the Apple Hardware Test (it's on one of the CDs that came with your Mac when you bought it) and tell us the results.
Title: Re: can it be fixed
Post by: queeny on March 16, 2008, 02:30:53 PM
i got two disks with it. mac os install disc 1 / 2. i will try them and see what happens. it can not do no harm. thanks   
Title: Re: can it be fixed
Post by: queeny on March 16, 2008, 02:35:50 PM
no luck. i could hear the disk being read but the screen just stayed the same it was worth ago.
its a bit funny the fact i can put in disks and eject them. 
Title: Re: can it be fixed
Post by: MaxVance on March 16, 2008, 02:52:07 PM
Try it again with the first install disk. Put in the disk, restart, and hold down D as it starts.  (Or whatever else the disk says on it to run AHT--if it doesn't say anything, it's most likely D.)
Title: Re: can it be fixed
Post by: Koopaslaya on March 16, 2008, 03:20:43 PM
The computer may be able to be fixed, but I'm not so sure that your grammar can...
Title: Re: can it be fixed
Post by: Chupperson Weird on March 16, 2008, 03:29:56 PM
What you need is a non-Apple piece of hardware.
Title: Re: can it be fixed
Post by: Vidgmchtr on March 16, 2008, 04:19:50 PM
Chup really needs to shut up right now.

Max: I recall the command for forcing a mac to read a disc during startup was the C key.
Title: Re: can it be fixed
Post by: Kuromatsu on March 16, 2008, 07:16:52 PM
my mac note book fell on the floor the other day
Computers/Notebooks/etc. falling on the floor at altitudes more than 5 feet are more than likely death to the system.
Title: Re: can it be fixed
Post by: MaxVance on March 16, 2008, 09:18:14 PM
Max: I recall the command for forcing a mac to read a disc during startup was the C key.
Normally yes, but running the Apple Hardware Test is different.

What you need is a non-Apple piece of hardware.
And how would this help protect from falls? Unless queeny were to buy one of those armored laptops (for use in factories, construction sites, etc.), a good impact could break any brand.
Title: Re: can it be fixed
Post by: MEGAߥTE on March 16, 2008, 10:07:32 PM
I dunno, my IBM (now lenovo) laptop is made of titanium and has a has a shock sensor to protect the hard drive.  And that's standard.
Title: Re: can it be fixed
Post by: Chupperson Weird on March 16, 2008, 11:23:22 PM
Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but pretty much any other computer is going to be cheaper and easier to fix than an Apple laptop. Maybe not in the hard drive department though.
Title: Re: can it be fixed
Post by: queeny on March 17, 2008, 03:32:13 AM
well thanks for your help anyway.
I called the insurance and they said it is covered under accidental damages which is cool.
i do not have to even give them the broken mac, they are just giving me the money for a new one.
i think i will try and get the other one fixed and sell it or just see what i can get for it broken. 

does anyone have any idea how much you would get for a mac 8 months old broken or working?
its a white notbook os and its got a camera built in to it cost 1200 new.

thanks queeny 
 
Title: Re: can it be fixed
Post by: Vidgmchtr on March 17, 2008, 02:28:34 PM
You're welcome, Vidgmchtr.

We're glad to help.
Title: Re: can it be fixed
Post by: AbercrombieBaseball on March 17, 2008, 10:29:22 PM
If it were one of those old orange iBooks I could see durability being higher...those things are TOUGH. My new MacBook feels well built but not as heavy duty as the old orange one.

Computers in general seem sort of weak today. I have a couple of desktop computers as well--an old Windows 95 IBM, a Mac LC (in its box, this one's from when I was little), this old-school Mac SE that my dad had and gave to me (it's the kind with the black and white monitor and the little disk drive--I actually used it to keep track of baseball stats for a while), and this really old Toshiba computer from my grandpa that runs DOS. All of those look pretty well built, especially that IBM. (I still use the IBM sometimes since I have Excel on it).

At work we have these H.P. computers. They don't seem as bad as the Dells I see at the library though. Those Dell computers always seem to have plastic parts missing from them. The H.P. keyboard feels pretty flimsy though. My grandpa has a pretty recent IBM computer but I think I read in the paper that IBM isn't making computers anymore?

I have always used a laptop case with my computers. They've rolled all over my car and everything and nothing's ever been hurt.
Title: Re: can it be fixed
Post by: queeny on March 18, 2008, 03:06:14 PM
i think IBM changed into Lenove thinkpads, they are meant to be good and they are cheap as well.
i was looking at that new thin mac book but thinking it looks like it would be more prone to break.
i use my laptop for work as well. i am use n some old dell now and it is so heavy to take on the tube so i need to get it sorted soon.
i no the old ones are much more solid than these new ones i wish they made them like that now.   
Title: Re: can it be fixed
Post by: AbercrombieBaseball on March 18, 2008, 04:27:58 PM
Yeah, I remember seeing Lenovo ads during NFL games in the fall. I thought IBM still made the business performance models but I could be wrong.

Hopefully they are as good as IBMs...my IBM is 15 years old and still runs like it's new. As I said before I still use it sometimes since I have Excel 97 on there (which I don't have on either of my Apple laptops) and I need Excel for some of my analysis work in school. (The spreadsheet on the new Mac, Numbers, is pretty good but it seems a bit more basic--I use it for personal finance and stuff like that, plus everyone else has Excel so I just use the IBM for that). Oh, and I have a good football game on my IBM called Unnecessary Roughness. Great way to waste time while trying to get coursework done...

I wouldn't mind getting another Windows desktop sometime but I guess I'd have to try one of these Lenovos. Toshiba still doesn't make desktops, right? (The one I have is actually an old portable, way too heavy for the average lap though).

I don't get why some people are so adamant about using one (Windows or Mac) over another. It's nice to be "bi-platform" and have both around, even if my IBM is ancient (but Office 97 is still OK, right?)

As far as that new skinny Mac laptop--I don't know if I'd want one that thin. I heard somewhere that a guy got his accidentally thrown out in the trash with the mail. Plus it does seem pretty prone to breaking because of its size. No way I'd want a statistician to use one at the ballyard or on the basketball court. I'm thinking about getting a really old laptop to use as a coach so I can keep records on it and not worry if a foul ball gets it or something--I'll be coaching little league this spring in all likelihood.
Title: Re: can it be fixed
Post by: MEGAߥTE on March 18, 2008, 04:48:27 PM
The other nice thing about IBM/lenovo is that they have good support if something does go wrong.  You can actually get somebody on the phone with little, if any hold time, and they're actually American, seem pretty competent, and are quick with repairs.
Title: Re: can it be fixed
Post by: MaxVance on March 19, 2008, 12:55:49 AM
As far as that new skinny Mac laptop--I don't know if I'd want one that thin. I heard somewhere that a guy got his accidentally thrown out in the trash with the mail.
Wow. If that isn't a testament to human stupidity/Apple engineering then I don't know what is. Yes, I know there are most likely thinner/smaller notebooks than the MacBook Air. I'm just using this particular example.
Title: Re: can it be fixed
Post by: queeny on March 28, 2008, 07:18:13 PM
well i went out today and go the mac book air. i know its going to break at some point but its very sexy looking i am a sucker for sexy things.
Title: Re: can it be fixed
Post by: Chupperson Weird on March 28, 2008, 10:05:46 PM
The only reason anyone buys Apple products. They are shiny plastic.
Title: Re: can it be fixed
Post by: Vidgmchtr on March 28, 2008, 10:23:17 PM
Or the fact that they're actually good computers despite the fact that other PCs are more popular.
Title: Re: can it be fixed
Post by: Chupperson Weird on March 29, 2008, 10:47:21 AM
And despite the fact that they won't run any software?
Title: Re: can it be fixed
Post by: Vidgmchtr on March 29, 2008, 02:13:44 PM
Explain the fact that I'm running software right now.
Title: Re: can it be fixed
Post by: missingno on March 29, 2008, 06:13:55 PM
Apple products are horrible. I have an iPod and it stopped working because I got caught in some rain and it got slightly damp.
Title: Re: can it be fixed
Post by: Vidgmchtr on March 30, 2008, 01:11:21 AM
Lots of portable ELECTRONIC products can do that in the rain. The fact that Apple stands out with the iPod is because, like, 95% of people in this world have one.
Title: Re: can it be fixed
Post by: Chupperson Weird on March 30, 2008, 02:25:22 AM
/me looks around

Well that is definitely the ignorant overstatement of the day.
Title: Re: can it be fixed
Post by: Kuromatsu on March 30, 2008, 10:05:56 AM
Reminded me of this. (http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=186)

(oh by the way it contains a few swear words to those who care.)
Title: Re: can it be fixed
Post by: Vidgmchtr on March 30, 2008, 04:48:03 PM
And
The only reason anyone buys Apple products. They are shiny plastic.

isn't completely ignorant and devoid of all fact except in the world that is your mind of Macintosh inferiority?
Title: Re: can it be fixed
Post by: Shyguy92 on March 30, 2008, 06:11:42 PM
I think at least one of the reasons people (Windows users) don't like Macs is that most Mac users tend to get all emotional in arguments like these. I'm not implying anything* of course, but it's true.


*****about anyone here*****
Title: Re: can it be fixed
Post by: Chupperson Weird on March 30, 2008, 09:01:26 PM
I'm still waiting for someone to pull up an advantage of using a computer that isn't compatible with the vast majority of software written for computers. I would cite design shortcomings too, but since they're basically using the same hardware now it isn't as bad. Still, when I remarked recently about the lack of right mouse buttons, some guy was like "That isn't true! We've had mice with two buttons for almost 3 years now!"

Yeah. That really makes up for 20 years of not having one and makes it so much more desirable. To finally arrive at the standard that other computers have had forever.