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Video Games => Mario Chat => Topic started by: BooDestroyer on May 08, 2007, 12:34:03 PM
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Aside from Wario starting off as a Mario character, he gets his own company in Diamond City. Would Diamond City be a part of the Mushroom Kingdom or something? Just hidden well?
Now how do you think it would be if the Wario Ware characters met the Mario crew?
Mona: Would probably try to best Peach and Daisy at everything
9-Volt & 18-Volt: Get all crazy for Mario and everything else around the place
Not sure about the others. You can fill in on them.
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I've often thought about any possible relation between Diamond City and the Mushroom Kingdom. However, I haven't been able to find any relations.
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If anything, I doubt the Wario Ware World will ever tie in with the Mushroom Kingdom outside of a spin-off.
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Well, I suppose it's obvious there's a connection (Meaning way to get two either of them by travelling a distance.) between the two, but I highly doubt it's in the Mushroom Kingdom, in fact, I'm about as sure it gets. I'm pretty sure the whole thing on "Mario vs. Wario" ended, meaning there is no real reason for anyone to travel between the two unless that little spark was wanted to be raised again.
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It does.
Diamond City was a racetrack in Mario Kart Arcade GP, proving that it exists in Mario's world
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I wouldn't consider Mario Kart Arcade GP to be canon. Though none of the Mario Kart games are necessarily canonical...
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The Mario Kart games usually take place after the last canon Mario game..
Super Mario Kart had locations and characters based off of everything up to Super Mario World.
Mario Kart 64 had everything up to Super Mario 64 (I think that was the last one released before MK64..)
Mario Kart Super Circuit had.. well, it was a revisitation to what made SMK great, while throwing in ideas that were in the second game (and a few ideas of its own).
Mario Kart Double Dash had everything up to Super Mario Sunshine (and two riders per kart. Whee!)
Mario Kart DS had everything up to.. it, too was a remix of all things Kart, while introducing new ideas.
I haven't played Mario Kart Arcade, but I usually consider the MK games to be somewhat canon, since they show locations of things (ie: in MK64, Mushroom Castle proximity to the Royal Raceway..)
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In general., the Mario spinoffs are like huge crossovers of everything in the main Mario games that came before them. I can't tell you how much the stuff that was referenced in Mario Party 1 made me want another Super Mario 64.
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I don't see why Diamond City wouldn't be part of the Mushroom Kingdom... can someone explain to me why it's so obvious that it's not part of it?
And even if it were in a different land, it could still be on the same planet, y'know?
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I believe they are all on the same planet, but in different areas. Megabyte had this cool Mario universe picture he put together from a uk mario site, but I believe that was before Diamond City was invented. Why couldn't Mario travel to Diamond City via warp pipes? It's possible.
This raises another question: With all these landforms, what's the name of the planet Mario and friends live on?
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In the more n00bier fan communities, such as Lemmy's Land, they call it "Plit". Personally I think that's a dumb name. I usually just refer to it as "Mushroom Earth". Maybe "Marioworld" would be a good name.
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Mario's planet may or may not be, but looks very much like, Earth. In Super Paper Mario, when Mario bounces high off the cloud, you can see an Earth-esque planet. The Mario characters also share the same planet as the Pikmin characters, whose planet also looks a lot like Earth.
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The Mario characters also share the same planet as the Pikmin characters, whose planet also looks a lot like Earth.
is that assumed or known fact?
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In Mario Golf; Toadstool Tour, if you hit the ball into a flower patch on a coarse (I forget which one), Pikmin will come flying out.
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I'm not sure if a simple cameo is to be counted as an actual tie to Pikmin. We don't even know how those Pikmin got there.
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is that assumed or known fact?
I think it should be fact because of the Pikmin cameo in MGTT (yea, I'm a little behind, but there's no other way to explain the fact that Pikmin even exist in the Mario world).
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I think it should be fact because of the Pikmin cameo in MGTT (yea, I'm a little behind, but there's no other way to explain the fact that Pikmin even exist in the Mario world).
Hrm, good point. Sorry, I didn't mean to come off as a jerk. Anyway, if anyone can find a name for the planet in a game (maybe a npc said something like "this is the end of X World!" or something), it'd be helpful. Though, I'm sure even if the name is said, it would be negated by something else :P
Back to the original topic, I'd say Wario Ware is on the same planet as Mario's series, just different place.
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I think they've only referred to it as "the world", but I remember "Earth" popping up at least once.
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Mario's planet may or may not be, but looks very much like, Earth. In Super Paper Mario, when Mario bounces high off the cloud, you can see an Earth-esque planet. The Mario characters also share the same planet as the Pikmin characters, whose planet also looks a lot like Earth.
In Super Paper Mario, they were in another dimension, so I don't think that counts as Mario's planet.
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Maybe it does count. What if those dimensions are different faces of the same planet?
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If you guys ever saw the TV show, Mario and Luigi once lived in "the real world" with humans and they were on Earth. They got sucked into a pipe and got sent to The Mushroom Kingdom. So, The Mushroom Kingdom is still on Earth. For the subject, Wario Ware can possibly be tied to The Mushroom Kingdom, except that it's probably a large distance away; an example is Isle Delfino (Dolphic Island in Japan).
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I see where you're going with this, but the TV show, and the movie for that matter, are not the best places to get your evidence from, since they're not considered canon.
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I really think Diamond City (wario ware) is an alternate human reality. Because while Mario has almost no humans, but tons of creatures, Wario is the opposite.
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Maybe that's just where the majority of humans hang out, as opposed to the Mushroom Kingdom and its surrounding lands.
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I think that Diamond City is located on Earth while Mario's adventures take place on another planet with no official name. In WarioWare, the Earth is mentioned sometimes (e.g. by Orbulon) and Wario's house contains even a map of Earth in WarioWare: Touched!.
Wario did already find a warp to Bomberman's world (Wario Blast), so why shouldn't he find a warp to Earth, too? In the city Wario got a secondary residence, maybe it was sometimes boring in his castle because his only real friend at the castle seems to be (beneath himself) a hen (Wario Land II).
Also, Wario uses his purple car in Wario Land 4, and it is revealed that Dr. Crygor built it. That means that Wario already reached Diamond City some time before the events of WarioWare. Jimmy T. tells in the manual of the first WarioWare "...he (Wario) and I go way back", too.
I think that Wario changes between the worlds, especially to ensure that no one has stolen his treasures in his castle and to amuse with Mario and his friends. So far, that's my theory. And because of my bad English, German is my native language.
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Your English is fine.
You can see the Earth in Super Paper Mario for a moment in 7-3 (which makes absolutely no sense, as you've experienced inter-dimensional travel).
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Well maybe World 7 is our dimension: RL.
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Mmmm... I hope not. It's dangerous.
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Mabey they can see our earth from their World 7-3. World 7-3 is Heaven, afterall (according to SPM).
EDIT: Whoops! Spoilers are now marked, and typos fixed..
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Spoilarz. And no, it isn't.
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Marios planet is almost the same as earth, remember mario is missing?
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Remember AoSMB3? There were warp pipes leading to our world. My point, AoSMB3 isn't considered canon (if there is one), and neither should MiM.
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Eventally, The Wario world will fuse into the Marioverse or whatever...
This is sort of funny actally, to think he started off as a clone in the Gameboy series, who'd have thought then what Wario's empire was going to become?