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Title: BEST AND WORST IN SERIES? Week 33: Returns
Post by: Nintendoobsessed on February 14, 2009, 10:41:00 PM
Yippie! Best And Worst is back! Week 33's theme is Returns. What are we voting on? Well, in the Mario series, there are many things that happen in every Mario game, such as jumping and Saving Peach. But other things only appear once or twice...like Captain Sugar and Birdo. So, you get to vote on the Mario game that had the best return of something-or the Worst! Let's Vote! (BTW, Beginning times are now Saturdays)

BEST: Wario Land: Shake It! (For Captain Sugar)

WORST: Mario Party 7 (For Birdo; Did she, he, IT have to appear in a Mario Party?)


NOMINATIONS:

Mario Sports game (8)
3D Game (1)
Nintendo System {Which system had the best/worst games?} (2)
Mario Spin-Off (1)


BEST Winners:
WEEK 1(Attacks): Mario and Luigi: Superstar Saga
WEEK 2(Final Boss Battle): Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door
WEEK 3(Music): Super Mario Galaxy
WEEK 4(Underwater Levels): Super Mario World
WEEK 5(Powerups): Super Mario Bros 3
WEEK 6(Bowser Level):Paper Mario
WEEK 7(First Boss): Super Mario 64
WEEK 8(Yoshi's Role): Yoshi's Island
WEEK 9(Intro): Super Mario Galaxy
WEEK 10(Ending): Paper Mario
WEEK 11(Races): Super Mario 64
WEEK 12(Non-Bowser bosses): Yoshi's Island
WEEK 13(Hub):Super Mario Sunshine
WEEK 14(Hub Dwellers): Super Mario Galaxy
WEEK 15(Title Screen): Super Mario 64
WEEK 16(Box Art): Mario and Luigi: Partners in Time
WEEK 17(Level Success Animation): Super Mario 64
WEEK 18(Ghost Levels): Super Mario World
WEEK 19(Castle/Fortress Music): Super Mario World
WEEK 20(Super Mario Bros. Remixes): Super Mario 64
WEEK 21(First Level): Super Mario 64
WEEK 22(Coins): Super Mario World
WEEK 23(Storyline): Mario and Luigi: Superstar Saga
WEEK 24(Hub Music): Super Mario Galaxy
WEEK 25(Original Super Mario Bros Level): 1-1
WEEK 26(Characters): Mario and Luigi: Superstar Saga
WEEK 27(Bowser): Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door
WEEK 28(Lava/Fire Levels): Super Mario 64
WEEK 29(Sidequests): Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door
WEEK 30(Non-Mario Playable Character): Yoshi
WEEK 31(Villian{s}): Bowser
WEEK 32(2D Game): Super Mario World

WORST Winners:
WEEK 13(Hub): Super Mario Galaxy/Super Paper Mario
WEEK 14(Hub Dwellers): Super Mario Sunshine
WEEK 15(Title Screen): Mario Kart Wii
WEEK 16(Box Art): Mario Kart Wii
WEEK 17(Level Success Animation): Super Mario Bros. 2(American)
WEEK 18(Ghost Levels): Super Mario Sunshine
WEEK 19(Castle/Fortress Music): Super Mario Bros. 3
WEEK 20(Super Mario Bros. Remixes): Super Mario All-Stars
WEEK 21(First Level): Super Mario Sunshine   
WEEK 22(Coins): Super Mario Galaxy
WEEK 23(Storyline): Super Mario Sunshine
WEEK 24(Hub Music): Mario and Luigi: Partners in Time
WEEK 25(Original Super Mario Bros Level): 8-3
WEEK 26(Characters): Super Mario RPG
WEEK 27(Bowser): Super Mario Sunshine
WEEK 28(Lava/Fire Levels): Super Mario Sunshine
WEEK 29(Sidequests): Mario and Luigi: Partners in Time
WEEK 30(Non-Mario Playable Character): Baby Daisy
WEEK 31(Villian{s}): Petey Pirahna
WEEK 32(2D Game): Super Mario Bros 2 (Japan)


*Super Mario Bros 2 (Japan)'s first appearance on the Master List!
Title: Re: BEST AND WORST IN SERIES? Week 33: Returns
Post by: Kojinka on February 15, 2009, 12:05:12 AM
BEST Wario Land: Shake It  (Captain Syrup)
Title: Re: BEST AND WORST IN SERIES? Week 33: Returns
Post by: BP on February 15, 2009, 03:42:07 AM
Best: Partners in Time. Kamek. In an apron. I'd vote Paper Mario 2 for Kammy, but looking at just the Paper Mario games, she never left (until Super Paper Mario).

Worst: I guess Mario Party 3 is where the Daisy nightmare began. But exactly when did Birdo rise from the grave? I hate it more than any other Mario character.
/me prepares a sizable dam for the flood of "SUPASTAH SAGA HAD TEH KOOPLIN'S!!!"
Title: Re: BEST AND WORST IN SERIES? Week 33: Returns
Post by: PaperLuigi on February 15, 2009, 03:45:18 AM
Best: Captain Syrup. I'm related to Captain Morgan (I kid you not) and she's a pirate. I gotta side with my sister in arms, you know?

Worst: King Boo Super Mario Sunshine. He looked nothing like Mansion's King Boo and wasn't nearly as malevolent or interesting.

Title: Re: BEST AND WORST IN SERIES? Week 33: Returns
Post by: ShadowBrain on February 15, 2009, 08:39:58 AM
Best: The Koopa Kids in M&L.
Worst: Whatever game Daisy came back in.
Title: Re: BEST AND WORST IN SERIES? Week 33: Returns
Post by: The Chef on February 15, 2009, 03:51:45 PM
^Mario Tennis 64 or NES Open Tournament Golf?
Title: Re: BEST AND WORST IN SERIES? Week 33: Returns
Post by: Kojinka on February 15, 2009, 04:46:21 PM
I can't believe people hate Daisy more than Birdo.
Title: Re: BEST AND WORST IN SERIES? Week 33: Returns
Post by: PaperLuigi on February 15, 2009, 05:35:25 PM
Daisy is fine (her signature catchphrase gets annoying from time to time, though). However, I dislike Birdo with great intensity. Tranny pink dinosaur who shoots eggs and has the hots for Yoshi? DO NOT WANT.


Title: Re: BEST AND WORST IN SERIES? Week 33: Returns
Post by: BP on February 15, 2009, 06:15:36 PM
I could not agree more with you, PaperLuigi. Mario spin-offs were much better before the partner formula had to exist. Technically it has since the first Mario Kart, but only as far as the manual an the game's mechanics say. Mario and Luigi, "The Brothers," had the same kart stats. Toadstool and Yoshi, "The Dragon and the Lady" shared kart stats. Toad and Koopa Troopa were "The Small Guys" and Bowser and Donkey Kong, Jr. were "The Showdown." I don't know why I remember all this stuff.
Title: Re: BEST AND WORST IN SERIES? Week 33: Returns
Post by: The Chef on February 15, 2009, 09:51:28 PM
It's OK. I remember it too. And I don't hate Daisy or Birdo. I actually rather like them. Sue me.
Title: Re: BEST AND WORST IN SERIES? Week 33: Returns
Post by: jdaster64 on February 16, 2009, 04:37:14 PM
BEST: Fawful's return in PiT, as it was unclear if he'd ever appear again until then.
WORST: Daisy in MP4.
Title: Re: BEST AND WORST IN SERIES? Week 33: Returns
Post by: The Chef on February 16, 2009, 08:01:43 PM
BEST: Foreman Spike in Mobile Golf +

WORST: Pauline in Mario vs. DK 2
Title: Re: BEST AND WORST IN SERIES? Week 33: Returns
Post by: Toad on February 16, 2009, 08:24:51 PM
Fawful's return in PiT, as it was unclear if he'd ever appear again until then.

That should actually technically count for any character in any game: you never know if they are going to scrap a character and do something completely different or what.


BEST: Toad in Mario Tennis 64. He was in Mario Tennis on the Virtual Boy (which only had 7 players, if I recall) and then didn't come back in the GC game. WHY?!

WORST: Petey or Birdo.. I can't decide! I hate them both with the fire of a thousand suns! .. if I have to pick one, Birdo. At least Petey isn't a cross-dresser or sounds like he has a trumpet stuck to his face..

Nominee: Sports game (side note: didn't we already vote on a 3D game? Why is it the nominee list?)
Title: Re: BEST AND WORST IN SERIES? Week 33: Returns
Post by: Sqrt2 on February 17, 2009, 06:38:00 AM
Best: Donkey Kong Jr. in Mario Tennis 64

Worst: Petey Pirahna (why Nintendo didn't drop him after SMS, I'll never know...)

Nominate: Best 3D game
Title: Re: BEST AND WORST IN SERIES? Week 33: Returns
Post by: Morton-Koopa-Jr on February 17, 2009, 09:42:23 AM
Best - The Koopa kids

Worst - Anything with Diddy or Donkey Kong in it.

Title: Re: BEST AND WORST IN SERIES? Week 33: Returns
Post by: PaperLuigi on February 17, 2009, 10:02:06 AM
What the heck do you have against Donkey and Diddy Kong?
Title: Re: BEST AND WORST IN SERIES? Week 33: Returns
Post by: Morton-Koopa-Jr on February 17, 2009, 10:20:36 AM
Nothing until they put them in Mario Karts then aaaaaaarrrrrrggggggghhhhhhh!!!!
Title: Re: BEST AND WORST IN SERIES? Week 33: Returns
Post by: PaperLuigi on February 17, 2009, 10:25:24 AM
So...you don't like Donkey Kong and Diddy Kong because they decided to race the other Mario characters?

(Okay, so technically Diddy Kong isn't a Mario character, but whatever).
Title: Re: BEST AND WORST IN SERIES? Week 33: Returns
Post by: Morton-Koopa-Jr on February 17, 2009, 10:33:34 AM
Yeah it was the Diddy thing mainly (plus old DK really even to this day has it in for me on MK games)  if they really needed a second monkey Cranky Kong was much funnier than that horrible one in the cap. lol
Title: Re: BEST AND WORST IN SERIES? Week 33: Returns
Post by: PaperLuigi on February 17, 2009, 10:44:32 AM
You're gonna have to at least give a reason as to why you think Diddy Kong sucks, because he's the exact opposite of horrible. Try completely awesome.
Title: Re: BEST AND WORST IN SERIES? Week 33: Returns
Post by: Morton-Koopa-Jr on February 17, 2009, 10:47:10 AM
Well I didn't say you had to agree with me on it I was merely replying to the thread and if you love him good for you, I personally just find him irritating END OF
Title: Re: BEST AND WORST IN SERIES? Week 33: Returns
Post by: El Gato on February 17, 2009, 11:47:52 AM
Best: I'd have to say SMG for bringing back Rocky Wrench. The poor guy hasn't had an appearance since SMB3.

Worst: Baby Mario & Luigi for MK:Wii. Even a generic enemy character (such as a Goomba) would have been a far better choice.
Title: Re: BEST AND WORST IN SERIES? Week 33: Returns
Post by: NintendoExpert89 on February 17, 2009, 12:16:37 PM
Best: Wiggler in Mario Power Tennis

Worst: Funky Kong in Mario Kart Wii (felt a bit too random a selection)
Title: Week 33 Results
Post by: Nintendoobsessed on February 20, 2009, 08:59:03 PM
Week 33: Returns

BEST:

Wario Land: Shake It! (3) - (Captain Syrup)
Mario and Luigi: Partners in Time (2) - (Kamek, Fawful)
Mario and Luigi: Superstar Saga (2) - (Koopalings)
Mario Tennis 64 (2) - (Toad, Donkey Kong Jr.)
Mobile Golf + (1) - (Foreman Spike)
Super Mario Galaxy (1) - (Rocky Wrench)
Mario Power Tennis (1) - (Wiggler)


WORST:

Mario Kart Wii (2.16) - (Donkey Kong, Diddy Kong, Baby Mario, Baby Luigi, Funky Kong)
Mario Party 3 (2) - (Daisy)
Mario Party 7 (1.5) - (Birdo)
Mario Kart: Double Dash (1.5) - (Petey Pirahna)
Super Mario Sunshine (1) - (King Boo)
Mario Party 4 (1) - (Daisy)
Mario VS. Donkey Kong 2: March of the Minis (1) - (Pauline)
Super Mario Kart (0.16) - (Donkey Kong)
Mario Kart 64 (0.16) - (Donkey Kong)
Mario Kart: Super Circuit (0.16) - (Donkey Kong)
Mario Kart: Double Dash (0.16) - (Donkey Kong, Diddy Kong)
Mario Kart DS (0.16) - (Donkey Kong)

An insane, and amazing ending.



NOMINATIONS:

Mario Sports game (9)
3D Game (2)
Nintendo System {Which system had the best/worst games?} (2)
Mario Spin-Off (1)

( didn't we already vote on a 3D game? Why is it the nominee list?)

We voted on 2D Game.
Title: Re: BEST AND WORST IN SERIES? Week 33: Returns
Post by: Kojinka on February 24, 2009, 08:42:58 PM
Nominate Mario Sports Games


U NO WUT WERE VOTING 4 NEXT
Title: Re: BEST AND WORST IN SERIES? Week 33: Returns
Post by: Silver Metaknight on February 24, 2009, 10:27:23 PM
Best:  Dry Bones in Mario Party 7, I like his new design alot.

Worst:  Daisy in Mario Party 4, she looked like a freak compared to her Mario Party 3 model.
Title: Re: BEST AND WORST IN SERIES? Week 33: Returns
Post by: Toad on February 25, 2009, 04:26:47 PM
That's funny, because I kind of thought Wario in Mario Party 4 looked like he was wearing make-up..