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Title: Bowser-"I'm too old for this."
Post by: The Blue Toad on April 23, 2005, 10:37:59 PM
No offense to the Mario games, but they're getting a little predictable.  Peach-kidnapped by Bowser, and Mario saves her.  How about a new bad guy.  (I give much credit to Paper Mario 2)
Title: Re: Bowser-"I'm too old for this."
Post by: Luigison on April 23, 2005, 10:45:17 PM
I very much like the SMB style Bowser levels in Paper Mario 2.  What if Bowser was the main character/hero or anti-hero in a game.

The enemies in Mario & Luigi are cool.  I liked Fawful the most.

Since Square is publishing games for Nintendo systems again, what if they brought back Smithy?
Title: Re: Bowser-"I'm too old for this."
Post by: The Blue Toad on April 23, 2005, 10:46:20 PM
C'mon Bowser, when are you gonna face the facts?  He's always gonna beat you, and Peach is never gonna fall for you.

What are the toads in SMS REALLY doing when Mario isn't looking?
Title: Re: Bowser-"I'm too old for this."
Post by: The Blue Toad on April 23, 2005, 10:47:47 PM
I have been thinking of that 4ever.  Bowser should switch to complete hero in 1 game or so.  That would be great to control him throughout the game.

What are the toads in SMS REALLY doing when Mario isn't looking?
Title: Re: Bowser-"I'm too old for this."
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on April 23, 2005, 11:04:20 PM
The Blue Toad, don't double-post. Be grateful I'm not in my "n00b Smashing" mood.

And most of the Mario RPG's usually have a new enemy. There's no need to get rid of Bowser.

 
Title: Re: Bowser-"I'm too old for this."
Post by: The Blue Toad on April 23, 2005, 11:11:39 PM
sorry, computer's slow...and weird.  Then again, could u imagine a mario game with no bowser?

What are the toads in SMS REALLY doing when Mario isn't looking?
Title: Re: Bowser-"I'm too old for this."
Post by: Nameneko on April 23, 2005, 11:29:05 PM
Yeah, it's called "Donkey Kong."
Title: Re: Bowser-"I'm too old for this."
Post by: Ultima Shadow on April 23, 2005, 11:55:58 PM
DK Jr
Super Mario Bros 2

And that's just off the top of my head. I'm feeling tired, and I can't think straight, and there are probably heaps more.

And, to anyone that asks- DK3 is NOT a Mario game.

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Title: Re: Bowser-"I'm too old for this."
Post by: The Blue Toad on April 24, 2005, 12:00:30 AM
right, sorry...I'm reeeally out of it right now.
Title: Re: Bowser-"I'm too old for this."
Post by: Ultima Shadow on April 24, 2005, 12:11:20 AM
Don't apologise. Everybody makes mistakes. I won't hound you for it- somebody else will do that. :]

That smiley was meant to be a vampire, by the way.

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Title: Re: Bowser-"I'm too old for this."
Post by: The Blue Toad on April 24, 2005, 12:14:38 AM
Oh...great...

What are the toads in SMS REALLY doing when Mario isn't looking?
Title: Re: Bowser-"I'm too old for this."
Post by: Ultima Shadow on April 24, 2005, 12:20:11 AM
Me: Just kidding. Get it?
*Frogs croak*
Me: Ha ha?
*Crickets*
Me: Darn.

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Title: Re: Bowser-"I'm too old for this."
Post by: The Blue Toad on April 24, 2005, 12:22:33 AM
lol.  Ok, what was this forum thingy supposed to be about??  Oh right, a new bad dude...quite frankly I like Bowser as the bad dude, and wouldn't really like it if some other guy took his place so, yeah...

What are the toads in SMS REALLY doing when Mario isn't looking?
Title: Re: Bowser-"I'm too old for this."
Post by: The Blue Toad on April 24, 2005, 12:46:40 AM
Sorry that I'm double-posting (I dont want Mr.Wiggles to n00b smash me) but let me just change the subject.  Does anyone else think that Kammy Koopa deserves to be in a good
3-D, non-paper mario game?

What are the toads in SMS REALLY doing when Mario isn't looking?
Title: Re: Bowser-"I'm too old for this."
Post by: Ultima Shadow on April 24, 2005, 12:55:39 AM
Try editing your posts instead of double-posting. Just a bit of advice.

Kammy is just a replacement for Kamek. Or, you can check out my theory in Mariology, which is further down the list in General Mario Chat. I wrote that Kammy was actually Kamek's daughter!

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Title: Re: Bowser-"I'm too old for this."
Post by: The Blue Toad on April 24, 2005, 01:23:36 AM
Oh, cool!  I didn't know that you could write your own theories!  Thanx for the editting advice too.
Title: Re: Bowser-"I'm too old for this."
Post by: Toddathon on April 24, 2005, 08:23:00 AM
I disagree...I think DK3 is a Mario game, why?  cuz Donkey Kong is in it!  To this day, I have no idea why TMK doesn't consider Donkey Kong a Mario character.  When Yoshi goes on his own game, that's  Mario game, as is Wario, Toad, etc.  But Donkey Kong's been around longer than any other, and yet he's bashed and not called a character.  Those DKC games are great!

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Title: Re: Bowser-"I'm too old for this."
Post by: Markio on April 24, 2005, 08:35:28 AM
I just don't like how people say he's cool because "he's the biggest and strongest Mario character".  DOINK!  What about Bowser??  Liking him for other reasons is tolerable, otherwise I hate you. (just kidding ).



I like Bowser as a playable character, or would like him as one.  What was his power up in PM2 that made him bigger in those SMB-style levels?  Did he have any other powerups?

Edited by - Markio on 4/24/2005 7:36:12 AM

Title: Re: Bowser-"I'm too old for this."
Post by: Latias Dita on April 24, 2005, 10:14:30 AM
His power up was pieces of meat (I guess he wouldn't be the type to like mushrooms).

Personally, I wouldn't like to see Bowser get replaced. Sure he doesn't seem to get it, but his persistacne is *almost* admirable. However, I do like it when someone other than Bowser causes trouble for Mario like in M&L:SS and PM:TTYD, espcially since he shows up complaining that he was't the one to do it.

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Title: Re: Bowser-"I'm too old for this."
Post by: Luigison on April 24, 2005, 11:14:34 AM
Markio, you've never played a game with Bowser as a playable character.  You should try Mario RPG and Paper Mario 2.

(Somethings wrong with my brain this morning.  When I went to type "play", I typed "okay".  Strange.  I just noticed that my right hand must have been off the home row.  I use a natural keyboard.)

Edited by - Luigison on 4/24/2005 10:17:42 AM
Title: Re: Bowser-"I'm too old for this."
Post by: The Blue Toad on April 24, 2005, 11:41:50 AM
Yeah, i loved being Bowser in Paper MArio 2.  His fire breath was great :D I agree, Donkey Kong showed up right away with Mario (as Jumpman).  He should be in more Mario games, but where would he fit in?

What are the toads in SMS REALLY doing when Mario isn't looking?
Title: Re: Bowser-"I'm too old for this."
Post by: Screech on April 24, 2005, 04:17:43 PM
I like Bowser as an OCCASIONAL hero.
As for predictability, he's getting a little bit more creative about kidnapping her.
I've always thought that a game with Bowser as the main character should be about him rescuing his kids. Like, from Tatanga or something.

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Title: Re: Bowser-"I'm too old for this."
Post by: SuperSonic_Yoshi on April 24, 2005, 05:09:41 PM
No Bowser in a Mario Game is like Eggman getting replaced in a Sonic Game (exclude Heroes).  Without them, the Series loses a lot.  Even though Bowser wasn't the main villain in PM:TTYD, We still saw him alot.
Title: Re: Bowser-"I'm too old for this."
Post by: The Blue Toad on April 24, 2005, 05:29:06 PM
Good idea Screech.  Bowser had quite a lot of kids, and I can see that being a fun game.  And yes, his tactics are getting more mysterious and fun.  I didn't even think Bowser would appear in Super Mario Sunshine.
Yeah, Eggman will always and 4ever be in Sonic Games, And hopefully the same will be for Bowser in Mario games.

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Title: Re: Bowser-"I'm too old for this."
Post by: Markio on April 24, 2005, 05:32:03 PM
Bowser was in SMS?  I never got to see it myself!  *cries and runs away, but comes back laughing because he's a lying fool!*

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Title: Re: Bowser-"I'm too old for this."
Post by: The Blue Toad on April 24, 2005, 06:06:57 PM
lol.  Yeah he was behind it the whole time and just had his son do the dirty work.  The evil genius.  This made much more of a variety to the MArio games instead of the usual Bowser kidnaps her and thats that.  It makes you guess who that weird blue mario is.

"Mario!  How dare you interupt my family vacation!"

Edited by - The Blue Toad  on 4/24/2005 6:08:29 PM
Title: Re: Bowser-"I'm too old for this."
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on April 24, 2005, 11:20:23 PM
"I disagree...I think DK3 is a Mario game, why? cuz Donkey Kong is in it! To this day, I have no idea why TMK doesn't consider Donkey Kong a Mario character. When Yoshi goes on his own game, that's Mario game, as is Wario, Toad, etc. But Donkey Kong's been around longer than any other, and yet he's bashed and not called a character. Those DKC games are great!"

TMK does consider DK a Mario character. They just haven't updated thier game list in ages.

 
Title: Re: Bowser-"I'm too old for this."
Post by: Hope(N Forever) on April 25, 2005, 08:56:35 AM
You know? I think Nintendo should consider recycling the character slightly...



I mean, if the games with an antagonist called "Bowser" are getting a bit to predictable, then why not twist the plot a bit?



What if Bowser, rather than kidnapping the princess, would instead threaten to destroy her kingdom what some weapon of horror if Peach does not marry him. Kinda like the land is the hostage and the ransom is marriage.

The princess does not get kidnapped, yet Mario goes on adventure all the same, and he goes defeating Bowser, and tries to stop the monstrosity of a threat later --- somehow...



That would be cool. Maybe, something wierd might happen, and the threat gets a mind of its own!



How about on this adventure, Mario goes through several outposts which try to stop him, or at least slow him down, in which those outposts contains some bosses - say the Koopalings - where we could play a Super Mario game like we did way back during the days of either Super Mario Bros. 3 or Super Mario World!



Think about it...



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Title: Re: Bowser-"I'm too old for this."
Post by: The Blue Toad on April 25, 2005, 12:10:36 PM
That's a great idea!  It really would give the game a cool twist.  I would most definantly play it.

I like the idea of Bowser being in love with Peach.  It gives him more of a personality rather then just having him be this mindless reptile trying to destroy everything.

If Toad is a mushroom and a mushroom is a fungus, can we say that Toad is a fungus?
Title: Re: Bowser-"I'm too old for this."
Post by: Latias Dita on April 25, 2005, 02:14:35 PM
Yeah, he could stil be the main enemy, but have him do something other than kidnap Peach. Or at least have one game where she doesn't get kndnapped.

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Title: Re: Bowser-"I'm too old for this."
Post by: The Blue Toad on April 25, 2005, 06:59:38 PM
I think it would be cool to have a new game where you could be everyone in the Mushroom Kingdom (but mainly Mario) fighting off a new force.  It would be like, Bowser is forced to join forces with Mario just this once so that this new force doesn't take over.
It would be cool if they brought over the X-Nauts from Paper Mario, and have THEM be the threatening force (with a new leader obviously since Sir Grodus was killed in PM2).  But I doubt they'll do anything like that.  I have a feeling the things in the Paper Mario world won't cross over into the 3-D Mario world.

If Toad is a mushroom and a mushroom is a fungus, can we say that Toad is a fungus?
Title: Re: Bowser-"I'm too old for this."
Post by: Latias Dita on April 25, 2005, 08:28:56 PM
Why not? The Star Spirits in the first PM showed up in Mario Party 5.

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Title: Re: Bowser-"I'm too old for this."
Post by: The Blue Toad on April 25, 2005, 08:35:43 PM
True, but I can't really see Goombella appearing in the next Super Mario for Nintendo Gamecube.  The Mario Parties just seem to almost be an acception.

If Toad is a mushroom and a mushroom is a fungus, can we say that Toad is a fungus?
Title: Re: Bowser-"I'm too old for this."
Post by: Latias Dita on April 25, 2005, 08:42:37 PM
Yeah, we never got to see Mario's partners form the first one again.

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Title: Re: Bowser-"I'm too old for this."
Post by: Hope(N Forever) on April 26, 2005, 09:08:58 AM
I wonder what's Nintendo cooking with the Next Super Mario? I can't wait for E3!!

With all this secrecy on dat game - it ought'a be something awesome!!

I am a pure Super Mario lover!!
...and in no point in the future will he ever be abandonded by me!
I will even drawn the best Super Mario comics ever to exist!!