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Miscellaneous => General Chat => Topic started by: The Chef on August 02, 2006, 08:38:08 AM
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I made this thread for discussion about cartoons, seeing is how Nintendo Bros.' polls sparked a lot of toon discussion. So the last thing we left off at was about the Simpsons. Hopefully the mods will merge those posts with this topic.
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Um, what was wrong with the last topic?
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Nothing, he just wanted to create a topic where we could all come and talk about cartoons instead of getting off topic in the other one.
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We are getting off topic right now, if you haven't noticed.
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The other one wasn't off topic; it was a natural progression of the discussion.
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Well, this thread certainly got off on the wrong foot.
To clear things up, I don't hate The Simpsons. I hate what it has become. I also hate the cheap shots the crew takes at Family Guy since they claim FG is a rip-off of the Simpsons. Wow, both of the dads are complete idiots? Both are about a family? What else can we find good sirs?
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I don't really understand the popularity of Family Guy. The jokes on it can be found on any other show.
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No way, Chef. Out of any show I've ever seen in my life, Family Guy tops them all in terms of comedy.
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No.You can find that king of humor anywhere.(South Park.Only it is 100x funnier than Family Guy)
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No, SP has that stupid kind of humor, The Simpsons RULES all.
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Family Guy is still my favorite.
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FG is okay, but Simpsons is my favorite, SP is stupid.
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South Park is more intelligent than both combined. If you fail to see that it's a personal problem.
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I'm not a fan of either "Simpsons" or "Family Guy". I don't find either very funny and because of that have hardly watched them. "South Park" would be good if they cut out all the sexual content--get rid of those bad jokes/words and you have a clever show. I've seen more of "South Park" than the other two combined, but have never watched it on a regular basis--usually just when someone has the DVDs and pops one in. I'm one of these people who would much rather watch sports on TV (unless it's poker, which I just find to be really boring on TV).
I guess I'm just not that into cartoons. I never saw many at all when I was little and I didn't even know what Nickelodeon was until I was in kindergarten and other people talked about it! In fact, I didn't even see a "Bat Man" cartoon on TV until I was nine. Some of the animated/computer movies they make (such as "Finding Nemo") are quite good though.
But yes, "Simpsons" and "Family Guy" do nothing for me. I'd rather watch sports or "American Idol".
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Tell me, why do you post in a cartoon discussion thread for the sole purpose of stating how you aren't into cartoons?
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I don't know!
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Well, if we are to each give our opinions of cartoons, I might as well give mine.
This is like when you go to an open discussion about, say, tax inceases. The topic is about the possible increase coming soon, but you are the one against the tax increase and you go to state your position and make your voice heard. Even if you're not exactly what the moderator/leader wants, you are presenting an alternate point of opinion for people to think about, agree with, or argue with. As long as you're not talking about, say, the gas mileage of 2006 Volvo S40 sedans (which would be off topic) and are staying focused on something (i.e. the counterpoint) it should be acceptable.
This example above can be translated to this section of the forum as to why I wrote what I did. In a way, this is a problem of democracy, but in another sense, it is a free-speech environment working at its finest.
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You didn't counterpoint anything. If this were your "tax increase" scenario, it would be like someone coming in and saying, "In my country, we don't even have taxes :D".
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Back on topic...
South Park is my favorite cartoon. Often South Park is just stupid, but when it's good, it's great. My second favorite cartoon is Futurama. Futurama is far superior to The Simpsons IMHO. I think many will agree that some of the best episodes of The Simpsons are the Treehouse of Horror Halloween specials, because in those episodes the writers can just do any crazy thing they think of without worrying about the constraints of reality. Every single episode of Futurama is like that.
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I don't really understand the popularity of Family Guy. The jokes on it can be found on any other show.
It's not the jokes, it's the way the jokes are presented that make Family Guy different. They're quick cut-aways that have little to do with the show but still produce a laugh. Not many cartoons can do or even try doing that.
"Bat Man"
*Takes a deep breath*
It's Batman! No space in the middle, no need to capitolise the M!
Sorry about that. Let the Batfan out of me there for a moment.
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Come to think of it, Superman doean't have a space either. Nor does Spider-man or Gamecube. But this is off-topic.
Anyone heard of Felix the Cat? I love him. I also got a crappy DVD of his movie, which had horrible animation quality and stuff, but I still love the movie.
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Felix is cool too, TC.
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Futurama is one of my favorite cartoons, because the jokes on it can be a little sick and stupid (like in Family Guy and South Park), but they mix in some really quiet jokes that you have to think about before you understand it. Some people miss Futurama's jokes totally, and I have to explain it to them.
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South Park is more intelligent than both combined. If you fail to see that it's a personal problem.
I don't see how it's a "personal problem." It's my opinion. I have no problem with anyone liking South Park, it's just that I enjoy Family Guy more than SP.
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The "you" was the Universal You, not you you.
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I like Family Guy a lot, just because I find myself laughing really hard every single time I watch it.
Stewie: "I say, look, Brian! Brian, look at me! I'm writing profanity on the wall!"
*Brian looks up from newspaper to see Stewie holding a crayon with the word 'Poppycock' written behind him*
Futurama is okay, it's just that I hate the main characters. Fry is extremely annoying, and he's always being portrayed as the good guy. He's not, really. Bender runs on alcohol. Enough said.
Though, I do like Dr. Zoidberg. He sounds weird whenever he screams.
As far as South Park goes, I do find it funny in some cases. The animation is a little cheap, but that's okay. I like when Cartman says 'kitty' or 'mom'. He just has this whiney little way of talking.
Cartman: "Nooo, Kitty, they're my cheesey poofs!"
Kitty: *meow*
Cartman: "Nooooo, Kitty!"
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Anyone around here ever see 'Who Framed Roger Rabbit'? I think it's kick-arse.
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Rodger Rabbit is freakin' awesome! It's a little older than some animated/live action movies, but it still tops them all.
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Indeed. I also liked Space Jam and Looney Toons: Back in Action.
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space Jam is the best.
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Zim is the empire of cartoons!
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I've seen better cartoons than Zim. :P
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Animaniacs is the empire of cartoons.
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Seen better, but I do admit, those are good.
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I also forgot to mention Tiny Toon Adventures, Freakazoid, and Hysteria.
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I thought the King of Cartoons was the king of cartoons.
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Walt Disney?
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The King of Cartoons from Pee-Wee's Playhouse. I'm sure someone can give you a link. I would, but....................I don't know how.
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Nah. That's about as dumb as Nicktoons Networks' claim to being "The Animation Capital of the World".
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Hey! I like that channel! They still show Ren and Stimpy, the old rugrats, and Rocko's Modern Life which is the best cartoon ever IMO.EVER! Still, all of the aformentioned cartoons were really good and remind me of my younger days. Nicktoon's Network isn't the cartoon capital of the world, but I like it nonetheless.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azoysfFKrcc will make you change your minds!
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Hey! I like that channel! They still show Ren and Stimpy, the old rugrats, and Rocko's Modern Life which is the best cartoon ever IMO.EVER! Still, all of the aformentioned cartoons were really good and remind me of my younger days. Nicktoon's Network isn't the cartoon capital of the world, but I like it nonetheless.
I like the channel myself. I just thought that was a dumb tagline.
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Animaniacs is the empire of cartoons. It's like a cartoony version of Saturday Night Live. Good Idea Bad idea was the best. So was "Who's on Stage?"
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The Goodfeathers and Slappy Squirrel are kick-awesome.
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What about Pinky and brain? (forgive me if I get the names wrong)
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That was so awesome, it spun off into it's own kick-awsome show.
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Mabye you can assume that Animaniacs is the empire of cartoons.
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What in the hex does "the empire of cartoons" mean anyway? ?? ??? ???? ?????
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Hmmmm....
*And so starts another episode of Vidgmchtr's Opinions Which Someone'll Definitely Argue Because They're Extremely Opinionated Themselves and Will Not Back Them Up with Anything Except "HEY I CAN HAVE MY OPINIONS TOO SHUT UP".*
The Simpsons:
It's funny, and I'll watch it if it's on and there's nothing else to do. Though, I agree with a lot of people, it's getting old, and 22 minutes of nothing but funny jokes turned into 10 minutes of funny jokes and 12 minutes of.....meh.
Family Guy:
This cartoon is awesome. I'm quite glad it was put back in production. Though, the 4th season hasn't been as funny as the previous ones (a lot of the jokes run long, to the point where it's not as funny as it is annoying). A favorite episode of mine in that season would be Jungle Love, in which Chris goes to South America as part of the Peace Corps to escape being a freshman at high school.
South Park:
I also like this cartoon quite a bit. Though it can get very vulgar at times, it does have the ability to make me laugh hysterically (just like The Simpsons and Family Guy). My all-time favorite episode of South Park is "Good Times with Weapons".
ZIM:
A great cartoon with an unfortunate premature death. If only Nickelodeon allowed Mr. Vasquez more freedom with it, it probably wouldn't be off the air. The dark, crazy humor is what makes me like this cartoon so much (I have the whole series on DVD). Probably my most favorite episode would be "The Frycook What Came From All That Space", or "Backseat Drivers from Beyond the Stars".
Rocko's Modern Life:
Another great cartoon that ended too early in its life. Nick seems to keep the crap, and cancel the good stuff (or annoy the creators into cancelling it themselves). A lot of the humor in it WAS very "mature", but so subtle that children would not be able to catch themselves.
Spongebob:
NO. NO NO NO. I'll say nothing more.
Ren & Stimpy:
Though in my opinion, not as great as ZIM or Rocko, but still very funny. I'm sure it'd be even funnier with the assistance of drugs. :D
The End.
ON THE NEXT EPISODE OF Vidgmchtr's Opinions Which Someone'll Definitely Argue Because They're Extremely Opinionated Themselves and Will Not Back Them Up with Anything Except "HEY I CAN HAVE MY OPINIONS TOO SHUT UP":
"No! He's NOT A KAPPA, NOR WAS HE BASED ON ONE!"
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Your cartoon habits are identical to mine. I shall not argue, and anyone that disagrees with you disagrees with me as well.
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Hahah, Vid's lame attempt to start an arguement failed!!! I kinda with you two anyway, but you left out DB!
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What in the hex does "the empire of cartoons" mean anyway? ?? ??? ???? ?????
Exactly what I'm trying to figure out.
"No! He's NOT A KAPPA, NOR WAS HE BASED ON ONE!"
I'm gonna take a wild guess and say Kappa Mikey?
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Nope, some people had an arguement on the General Mario Chat about if bowser is based on a Kappa, when he isn't.
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Sometimes it makes me wonder if the people behind certain cartoons were on drugs when they came up with the idea for that show.
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Please post an example.
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Bobobo, for one. That show is obscenely stupid, and I hardly understand what's going on half the time. I guess the Japan version is better, but I've never seen it, so I'm making a raw guess.
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I seem to recall a cartoon that I don't really like, but it was actually kind of a hit show for 4kids. It's called "The Cramp Twins." I hated it because it knocked one of my favorite shows off of the air. Which is the same reason why I personally dislike the Power Rangers.
Call me erratic call me what you will. Say I'm old fashioned, say I'm over the hill. Today's music ain't got the same soul, I like that old time rock and roll.
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I seem to recall a cartoon that I don't really like, but it was actually kind of a hit show for 4kids. It's called "The Cramp Twins." I hated it because it knocked one of my favorite shows off of the air. Which is the same reason why I personally dislike the Power Rangers.
Call me erratic call me what you will. Say I'm old fashioned, say I'm over the hill. Today's music ain't got the same soul, I like that old time rock and roll.
You're just like me Jman.
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Bobobo, for one. That show is obscenely stupid, and I hardly understand what's going on half the time. I guess the Japan version is better, but I've never seen it, so I'm making a raw guess.
lol, I know. That show is hilarious just because it makes no sense whatsoever. The characters stray away from the plotline so much in that show, and simply bend all the rules of sense, that you feel as though you're watching a show made by a four-year-old! When I first saw it, I was expecting it to be a serious anime show. I ended up laughing until I had a side ache.
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One of my favorite cartoon was Captain Planet, man I loved to watch that show every morning before going to pre-k or kindergarten, whichever. I always loved to say "The power is yours!" almost everywhere I went. Goodtimes, I have a bunch more I used to watch, I'll post every other day.
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Why doesn't anyone like Invader ZIM? It was awesome!
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Have you not been listening? At least three people have said that Invader Zim is or has been their favorite cartoon! Me being one of them.
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Ummm, you can't actually listen to this, you read it. But anyone makes this mistake.
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Hahah, Vid's lame attempt to start an arguement failed!!! I kinda with you two anyway, but you left out DB!
If you think I was trying to start an argument, you're crazy. Seriously, no one can detect sarcasm anymore...
Anyway, more of my favorite stuff, this time, anime:
InuYasha: The first anime I watched that got me back into anime after Pokémon turned me off from it. Very nice animation style, and can be very funny at times.
Trigun: Another great series. Vash the Stampede is a light-hearted, comical pacifist who has a bounty on his head for something he didn't do himself.
Cowboy Bebop: Classic stuff. Very good music, very entertaining.
Detective Conan: 17 year old high school student/detective gets shrunken down to a pint-sized 6 year old and solves mysteries. Strange yet entertaining combo.
Lupin the 3rd: Even more classic than Bebop. Hayao Miyazaki even directed a few episodes. Awesome series.
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What about DB????
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Seriously, don't abbreviate stuff people might not be familiar with.
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Dragon Ball is not the end-all and be-all of anime.
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But it's as cool/cooler than some of the stuff Vid mentioned.
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Hey, I can abbreviate Dragon Ball now, just because everyone else knows about it...
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Ummm, you can't actually listen to this, you read it. But anyone makes this mistake.
WTD? What mistake?
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You can't hear someone's post on a forum, you can only read it. And you said "Have you not been listenting ?".
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Listening, in a figurative sense, means paying attention.
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But, really, don't we all just like to be literal?
Anyone here know why Cartoon Network's slogan is "Yes."? :p
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They have a slogan?
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Literality is overused these days.
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I never understod that. I miss their old slogans. :(
Pokemon has also been moved to Boomerang. :(
That means that Boomerang will go the route of Toon Disney. :(
Meaning that I'll never be able to see any more good cartoons on TV again. :(
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"Yes" comes from that elephant demon named Fred Fredburger from the Billy & Mandy special Keeper of the Reaper. It also comes from the imaginary friend Cheese from Foster's Home. Both also seem to be mentally retarded.
As for The Chef's little dilemma, that's what DVD sets were created for. Most of the good toons are already on DVD or making their way to it. The only thing you need to do now is find a job that pays well, since most of the sets seem to be in the range of 25 to 50 dollars.
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I highly suggest you all read John K's explanation (http://johnkstuff.blogspot.com/2006/08/what-is-cartoon.html)of what cartoons really are. Note that there are barely any today. Bimbo's Initiation in particular makes me want to weep when looking at the current stock of "cartoons".
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That explanation was kick-awesome. It happens to be a topic that I was thinking of for quite a while.
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It's too bad it comes from the guy who hasn't worked on anything in a long time and sounds so full of himself. Last I heard he's making money off selling cels of Ren & Stimpy on eBay.
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Either way, those are good standards for cartoons.
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It's too bad it comes from the guy who hasn't worked on anything in a long time and sounds so full of himself. Last I heard he's making money off selling cels of Ren & Stimpy on eBay.
What are you talking about? He's working on stuff constantly. The Ren & Stimpy Lost Episodes (which just came out) are mostly new, he's pitching a brand new show (which you would know if you actually had read more of the blog, or anything about him), he's doing music videos for Weird Al and Tenacious D, he's setting up shows like the one in the post I linked, etc., etc.
And full of himself or not, he's right.
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He is most certainly right. Too bad I don't really enjoy a ton of "cartoons," apparently.
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I just bought Volume 1 of the Animaniacs. Ah, precious memories! And it's so much funnier now that I can understand the cultural references.
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I finally got the SMB:SS DVDs, but my computer DVD player stopped working, so I havent watched it yet.
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I have those DVD's too. I got them cause I'm a Nintendo junkie who was only 1 year old when the SMBSS and LoZ originally aired.
I love cartoons even to this day. I love them so much that I can't list all of my personal favorites, but I can say that I grew up with "The Simpsons" and "Rocky and Bullwinkle." Remember with some TV stations would air cartoons on weekday afternoons? I sure remember sitting down to watch Digimon or Gargoyles, etc. after a long day of School.
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I used to watch the original pokemon alot, I remember having a small book thing, you would buy pictures of pokemons, and pastes them in thier correct spots. I also remeber inside bags of chips, they used to be some sort of disk thing with pokemon on them, I had a HUGE collection of those, I still own some, you would play games with them and win others chips. I would explain the game if I remembered, that had a huge populariy everywhere.
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I have a collection of the older Pokemon eps on VHS. We don't get the WB where I live. :( Not that it matters now. The newer seasons of the Pokemon anime really suck. But I still love the seasons of the first few regions: Kanto, Orange Islands (despite Tracey's habbit of stating the obvious) and Johto (to a certain extent). Oh, and I loved the first three movies. I used to collect the trading cards too.
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Who could forget Digimon? I loved that show as a kid. The ever changing, always interesting story was great. The digimon, themselves, were cool. The digi-world was so mysterious, wacky and awesome. That show was pure ownage!
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I loved the first two seasons, but the newer ones got confusing. It felt like if you missed just one episode, you got completely lost.
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Pokemon: 2000 was awesome! That one was the best of the movies by far.
I have to say, even though the new shows are dumb, I still seem to enjoy the pokemon movies.
However I haven't seen all of them.
If they've made one that doesn't star Misty as one of the major characters, I doubt I'd like it.
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Then stay away from Jirachi: Wish Maker. That was made after they made their biggest mistake; replacing Misty with May. I haven't seen Destiny Deoxys, yet, but I'll bet it has May in it. Ash/Misty forever!
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That's a new character? I thought Misty just changed her style, or something.
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Yes, it's a new character, and I don't like her.
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One of my favorite "classic" episodes is the two-parter where the original group (Ash, Misty and Brock) and Team Rocket are trapped on the St. Anne. Although I think it branches out into a three-parter because it ends on a cliffhanger.
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If there is a third part, and that third part happens to be the episode I think it is, then it was left out of our shores because of James' artificial boobs.
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No, that's not the third part. The third is when the trainers and their pokemon are separated on an island full of huge pokemon.
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Then they see a pikachu in the horizon, only to not be Ash's, then they go on the roller coaster thing. That is one of my favorites! I forgot they landed there, another of my favorites is where Ash and Pikachu have to fight the leader of a thunder gym and his RAICHU.
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...I like May. Her contests are the only thing that keep me watching now and she isn't as annoying as Misty was.
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Oh yeah I loved the St. Anne ones! Those were my favorite along with that Giant Pokemon Island episode. Misty was too awesome to just throw away like that. I'd much rather have her pulling Brock's ear than Max.
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I stopped watching Pokemon years ago. Can someone tell me why they canned Misty?
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I'm not shure, mabye they had to make room for new characters. I liked it when there was only 150 diffrent Pokemon, now It's to confusing and there are to much of them, like who many? One thousand??
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Yeah, give or take a few.
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I stopped watching Pokemon years ago. Can someone tell me why they canned Misty?
I think they replaced Misty because they wanted to make things interesting. They thought Misty was getting boring, so they replaced her with May. Stupid, I know. I've seen a few episodes and they still feature her from time to time.
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They replaced Misty with May to keep up with the times, duh. May is one of the characters from Ruby/Sapphire, which happens to be the very game that the season without Misty is based on, duh.
PS: I still haven't found that dang Animaniacs DVD.
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Try looking at your local Wal-mart. I found them there after I had no success finding them at Best Buy.
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Borders.
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Back on topic. Weeklings is the 2nd best cartoon ever!
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Never heard of it.
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Go to http://weeklings.rtoons.net
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You don't tell me what to do.
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Samurai Jack, now there is a great show.
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Thanks for reminding me. I nearly forgot about it.
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Samurai Jack! Who could forget that show? It was a true triumph for cartoon network IMO. I liked the serious tone and a continuous story line. I wonder why CN cancelled the show?
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Read post #107.
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Well, this thread certainly got off on the wrong foot.
To clear things up, I don't hate The Simpsons. I hate what it has become. I also hate the cheap shots the crew takes at Family Guy since they claim FG is a rip-off of the Simpsons. Wow, both of the dads are complete idiots? Both are about a family? What else can we find good sirs?
It's just jokes. In real life, however, the creators of both shows are really friendly to each other. Groening even said MacFarlane is a great guy that does great work.
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Samurai Jack, now there is a great show.
Oh, my god! How could I have nearly forgotten that? That show was really awesome!
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Spongebob:
NO. NO NO NO. I'll say nothing more.
You're a good person. :')
ANyways, now for my cartoon opinions. One of my favorite cartoon series of all time has to be "The New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh". It's kid friendly and funny. Two things I like in a cartoon. Plus, the running gag of people falling down Gopher's holes just cracks me up. XD Another cartoon I liked when I was a kid was Muppet Babies, but I think I only saw like one episode of it(Baby Gonzo and Baby Piggy get sent to the future via a BLUE HOLE that Baby Gonzo created, not to be confused with a black hole.) I wanna find a DVD of Muppet Babies sooo bad. T_T
New cartoons I like include Winx Club(a cartoon about girls who go to a fairy school and learn magic), Viva Pinata(a new cartoon about talking pinatas[dur]) and Magical DoReMi(a cartoon about three 8-year-old witches-in-training). I absolutely CANNOT stand SpongeBob SquarePants or Bratz(A cartoon based off of a line of dolls?!! That's a worse idea then YuGiOh!)
And, of course, everyone knows that I like Homest*curtains close* Hey, I wasn't finished!
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You just brought out my fond memories of watching Pooh and Muppet Babies as a youngun. I love those shows. It stinks that girls can get away with watching that stuff without ruining their reputation. If I were caught watching shows like that nowadays, I'd be laughed out of the room
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I wouldn't laugh you out of the room. :)
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Spongebob is awesome. Don't diss the sponge.
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I'm not dissing SpongeBob, I'm saying I don't like him. There's a difference.
Dissing ~ "SpongeBob is stupid." or "LOLZ SPUNGBOB IS STOOPID LOLZ"
Stating dislike ~ "I absolutely CANNOT stand SpongeBob SquarePants..."
See? Difference.
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Hey, it was just a joke! I wasn't actually getting angry at you for "dissing" him.
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You just brought out my fond memories of watching Pooh and Muppet Babies as a youngun. I love those shows. It stinks that girls can get away with watching that stuff without ruining their reputation. If I were caught watching shows like that nowadays, I'd be laughed out of the room
And why would that matter to you? As long as you enjoy what you're watching you shouldn't be ashamed of it. Honestly, I have watched kiddie shows like Hamtaro and Arthur right in front of my friends and I have watched Sailor Moon, Cardcaptor Sakura and W.I.T.C.H. right in front of my parents. No one ever questions my masculinity either, which is all good with me.
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Ah well, I guess you're right Mr. Wiggles. I'd like to point out how much Bobby's World pwns.
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The New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh was a good show.
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Tigger is the best. He PWNS Rabbit.
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One thing I loved about The New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh was the awesome characterization.
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You know, I could never figure out the sex of Rabbit. -_-'
But, he's a guy, apparently.
Anyways, Winnie the Pooh was the one show that I watched as a kid, so, naturally, that cotton-brained bear is my favorite child icon. I liked the episode where a huge rain storm came in and flooded the Hundred Acre Woods... and the one where Pooh got stuck in Rabbit's hole was pretty great too.
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I have many fond memories of that show. I both of the episodes you mentioned on video.
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You know, I could never figure out the sex of Rabbit. -_-'.
Neither could my cousin. You can easily tell he's a guy because of his personality. He seems to be older than the other characters and is kind of a grouch. Yet at the same time he guides the other characters whenever they're stuck. Somewhat of a father figure.
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GIJoe all the way, I love watching that on Action Blast! every morning, I think it is cobra, I'd rather be Cobra than GIJoe.
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Meh. The original GI Joe was the best.
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Tom & Jerry, a true classic that is still airing on Cartoon Network. I loved that show since I was around 5. I still like it now because I don't remember any episode I watched.
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But Tom & Jerry isn't a show, it's a series of theatrical cartoons. Unless you were referring to Tom & Jerry Kids, which isn't as good as the classics.
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Meh, Tom & Jerry Kids doesn't hold a candle to A Pup Named Scooby Doo, one of the few good Scooby Doo spin-offs. Then again, anything is better than Shaggy & Scooby Doo, Get a Clue.
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Neither could my cousin. You can easily tell he's a guy because of his personality. He seems to be older than the other characters and is kind of a grouch. Yet at the same time he guides the other characters whenever they're stuck. Somewhat of a father figure.
There's that, and there's also how they always refer to him with the pronoun "him".
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Oops. Completely forgot that. >.>
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You know, I could never figure out the sex of Rabbit. -_-'
Thank God I wasn't the only one. It was a time when I was afraid of being laughed at for not knowing something. Anyways, the dub of Magical DoReMi was worse than I thought, but thats just my opinion.
And Aarom, you do know there's gonna be a new Tom and Jerry cartoon ( Tom and Jerry Tales ) airing this Fall, right? You should probably check it out if you really like the show.
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Meh, Tom & Jerry Kids doesn't hold a candle to A Pup Named Scooby Doo, one of the few good Scooby Doo spin-offs. Then again, anything is better than Shaggy & Scooby Doo, Get a Clue.
Sorry about the double post...
So true. I loved that show. The creators did a great job with the personalities of the characters, especially Fred.
But yeah, I gotta agree with you. It's confirmed the rest of the gang will make "guest appearances"....Whats with this? I really don't see them ( Shaggy and Scooby ) actually trying to solve mysteries without being forced to do it. And the plot is pretty awful. Last I checked, Shaggy never had a rich uncle. The plot just feels cliche. The animation is also very unimpressive, it looks like it's animated by Flash, and I don't like the dot eyes on Scooby.
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What is this Scooby show you are speaking of? I've never heard of it.
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It's on kids WB. The show is basically another Scooby Doo spinoff, except this time the creators tried to have more "action". In the one, Shaggy has a rich uncle who I think has a labratory. The scooby snacks have nano-bots in them, which gave Scooby super powers. He must use his powers to protect the scooby snacks from the forces of evil. I've never seen it before, but it sounds pretty stupid.
And that brings me top another subject; People trying to revive the old cartoons into anime ripoffs that miss the entire show's original premise entirely. First it was the looney tunes, now Scooby Doo. What next? Micky Mouse & co.: Primed and ready?
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I can see it now:
Mickey: We've gotta do something before the evil robots destroy the world! By the power of Walt Disney's magic pen, let's power up!
*shudder* I could do without something like that. Making an anime about Mickey Mouse, regardless of how much I like him, would be crossing the line.
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I can see it now:
Mickey: We've gotta do something before the evil robots destroy the world! By the power of Walt Disney's magic pen, let's power up!
Lol. How about this:
Mickey: Why did you join the dark side, Donald? Come forward to the side of good!
But what about kingdom hearts 1 & 2? I beleive mickey pulled a Yoda in KH2.
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GI Joe v.s the nazis?
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Only if they're communist nazi ninjas.
Speaking of classic cartoons getting anime makeovers....
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Make what you will of it, just be glad it's only fanart.
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Ew... what the crap did they do to Charlie Brown?
But, anyways, whatever happened to Alvin and the Chipmunks? I used to watch that show every morning. :-(
Alvin, Simon... Theodore!
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Oh dear gosh, I will send the mother of all angry letters to any anime studio that touches "Peanuts."
If you want some Alvin and the chipmunks videos, go to youtube. I have one up called "Sonic and the chipmunks." It's (obviously) the Sonic X opening video with the Chipmunks theme song.
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yeah, the peanuts anime is good, but just tacky.....
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Only if they're communist nazi ninjas.
Speaking of classic cartoons getting anime makeovers....
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Make what you will of it, just be glad it's only fanart.
That had better be fanart. I shall smite whoso ever dare lay a hand upon the greatness that is the work of Charles M. Shultz. (He's my idol ya know.)
But all this talk of anime-syled revivals of old toons has reminded me of Bleedman's Powerpuff Girls comics.
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He went to a good art school, I attended it for some years, then I went off on my own.
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I wouldn't mind an anime Muppets. Really, I wouldn't. *gets beaten by other Muppet fans*
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Heh? That is impossible, utterly impossible...
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That had better be fanart. I shall smite whoso ever dare lay a hand upon the greatness that is the work of Charles M. Shultz. (He's my idol ya know.)
But all this talk of anime-syled revivals of old toons has reminded me of Bleedman's Powerpuff Girls comics.
There are some things you just don't lay a hand on for anime. Charles Schulz's greatest comic strip is one of them. I am a huge fan of his work.
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Wurd
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Garfield is another great cartoon that should never be made into anime. As much as I love anime, it needs to stay far away from the classic cartoons we know and love.
I loved Hamtaro! I don't care if it was kiddy. It was a great anime.
When I was around 8 years old, I'd watch Arthur every day.
And I used to watch Digimon every weekday after I got home from school and every Saturday morning.
Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog (NOT Sonic X). This was back when VG cartoons were all humor, and no anime rip-off. Good times.
Remember Cartoon Cartoon Fridays back when Cartoon Network was the king of cartoon line-ups? I miss those times.
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Yeah, don't none of you anime studios get any ideas to rip off our most beloved toons with crappy versions of your own.
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I doubt any anime studio execs are actually viewing this thread, and I doubt they're even trying to get the license to reimagine any classic american cartoons. Those images mostly come from untalented hacks at deviantArt who can't draw in any other style so they take an easy way out: Anime-ize an old cartoon to cover up for their lack of talent. Of course there are exceptions, like Bleedman.
If there is one cartoon I never want to see revived in a different style it's Beavis and Butt Head. Mike Judge got it right the first time and no one else should touch it.
Besides that, Powerpuff Girls Z isn't that bad. Sure they changed many elements around but anyone who wanted to see an exact replicant of the original PPG is blinded by bias.
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I've never seen that PPGZ before. What's it like?
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I've never seen PPGZ either, but I really hope Cartoon Network will dub it someday using some of the original voices.
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Basically, it a self parody magical girl show with the PPG, though they are very different from their original selves. Blossom, Bubbles, and Buttercup are now their super hero codenames. Their real names are Momoko, Miyako, and Kaoru. They're now 13 years old instead of kindergartners and they're not sisters. Blossom's still the leader but she isn't as bossy and smart as the old Blossom. She's more boy crazy and has an addiction to candy. Bubbles is now the rational thinker, while Buttercup is mostly the same. Most of the villains also have different backgrounds and looks except for Fuzzy Lumpkins who's mostly the same. Professor Utonium, the Mayor, Ms. Bellum and Ms. Keane are also there.
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I'm glad I haven't seen Bellum's face in any of the PPGZ screenshots. They should NEVER shou Bellum's face cause that was a running gag from the original.
If you think about it, the original PPG kind of parodied the anime style.
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Ah ys, the old "never seen his face" gag from Home Improvement, where they only showed parts of Wilson's face, or they'd show him from the back.
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So did Dexter. That was McCracken and Tartakovsky's thing. There's also tons of references to all sorts of anime, action cartoons, sci-fi films and other such things.
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Rocko's Modern Life and Angry Beavers PWNs.I love these 2 cartoons.
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So did Dexter. That was McCracken and Tartakovsky's thing. There's also tons of references to all sorts of anime, action cartoons, sci-fi films and other such things.
Ah, yes. Dexter's Laboratory was awesome.
As for PPG, I loved how they'd put some sort of Nintendo reference in. (The Mayor playing a game that STRONGLY resembled The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, in which he kept killing the 'Navi'. O' great Mayor of Townsville, please give us your secret to killing Navi. XP)
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I figured I'd up the ante a bit and put out a topic for us to post about: Underrated Cartoons.
Post which cartoons you think are underrated. The ones that are actually good but don't get the attention they deserve. It can be from the present day, or it can a cartoon that existed way back when but isn't remembered much anymore. Just be sure to state which of these it is.
For me:
My Life as a Teenage Robot (This is a show that was on nick a couple years back. It currently reruns on the Nicktoons Network. Obviously it wasn't popular enough because it didn't last as long as the other Nicktoons.)
I admit it. I like this one. Especially the art style. It's like half anime and half classic. Heck, there are even references to 30's cartoons sprinkled about. There was even a huge Mario reference in one particular episode. I also like the premise, which is about a world-saving robot that has the physical age of a high school student. Not bad, if I do say so myself.
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I figured I'd up the ante a bit and put out a topic for us to post about: Underrated Cartoons.
Post which cartoons you think are underrated. The ones that are actually good but don't get the attention they deserve. It can be from the present day, or it can a cartoon that existed way back when but isn't remembered much anymore. Just be sure to state which of these it is.
For me:
My Life as a Teenage Robot (This is a show that was on nick a couple years back. It currently reruns on the Nicktoons Network. Obviously it wasn't popular enough because it didn't last as long as the other Nicktoons.)
I admit it. I like this one. Especially the art style. It's like half anime and half classic. Heck, there are even references to 30's cartoons sprinkled about. There was even a huge Mario reference in one particular episode. I also like the premise, which is about a world-saving robot that has the physical age of a high school student. Not bad, if I do say so myself.
You know a new season of that is coming, right? Just saying, in case you thought it was cancelled like I did.
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A new season!? Kewl!
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A new season!? Kewl!
Yup. Late 2006, 13 episodes. But unfortunetly, due to low ratings, there will be no fourth season. I'm sick of animated shows getting cancelled after only three seasons...
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At least they don't get cancelled after only two, like the Saturday morning Sonic cartoon. But what other cartoons do you think are underrated?
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Well, it's not like Zim was underrated, but it isn't on anymore.
I think the Fairly Odd Parents is seriously overrated. I hate that show with a fiery passion.
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I dunno, I kinda liked FOP. But not as much as Jimmy Neutron, which was probably underrated.
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I belive Invader ZIM was a very under-rated show. I actually enjoyed that hsow's humor, art style, and the theme: an alien trying to take over a world he doesn't understand and has no chance of doing so. It's very humorous, even the first episode. Most cartoons have a horrible first episode, mainly because it's the Pilot and meant to be experimental. The only other cartoon I can think of that had a rather good Pilot is Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends.
Jimmy Neutron is very creative, and not over-rated. However, as most cartoons, the newer episodes suck. And that really sucks.
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Camp Lazlo had a terrible pilot, so much, in fact that I thought of never seeing it again. But as time went on, it just got funnier, so I'm still tunning in every time there's a new episode.
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You want an underrated cartoon? Time Squad was one of the greatest. I actually had fun learning History. It was also fun how they made fun of History. Yeah, this show was bound to be underrated.
Also, Avatar: The Last Airbender. This is a well-made attempt at Anime. It has everything a good anime needs. Yet, most of the Otaku I see on the Internet don't give it the recognition it deserves.
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Holy Crap!! You just reminded me of how kick-awesome Time Squad was!! How could I forget it!?
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Time Squad was great. It brings back memories of a kid, robot and cowboy traveling through time and kicking arse.
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And we'd gradually learn more about those three characters. Heh, I even made my own Time Squad character. Can't remember her name, but she was a teen that grew up in Otto's era, and was sent to the Time Squad era to become a time spy for the force. She would travel through time to spy on some evil genius, who was the cause of the history instability. It was the duty of the time cops and their robot partners to correct the instability. My character didn't have a robot partner. She had a time traveling device on her wrist, which was similar to the watches on the Family Guy special where Stewie met his older self. (I think that's the Stewie Griffin Story)
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I've remembered perhaps one of the oddest and weirdest cartoons ever: Whatever Happened to Robot Jones? If most of you are like me (I doubt it), then you've probably forgot about this awkward cartoon. For a link, click here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whatever_Happened_to_Robot_Jones%3F). This show was very odd and different, and was never a success. Hmm, it's amazing how I still remembered it, almost as amazing as how it was on again not too long ago.
I don't really think Avatar is underrated. If people don't really like it, I don't know why. The humor's humorous, even in the newer episodes (thank goodness, a new cartoon with a humor), the writers are excellent, and the drawing style is fantastic. It is one of my favorites. I hope this cartoon stays on the air for a long time, hopefully longer that Spongebob.
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OMG!! Robot Jones!! I friggin love that show!! If only because of the countless 80's references!!
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Just incase you don't know it was canceled do to lack of support in the Season 2 eps.
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What was cancelled?
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Robot Jones
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I know it was cancelled. I was just saying how much I loved it. IT seems like all the underrated shows got cancelled because they were underrated.
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Ah yes, it was a very neat show. Unfortunately the demand for cartoons that were "in the box" and normal like all of the other cartoons was really high, so awesome cartoons like Whatever happened to Robot Jones? that were out-of-the-box were totally skipped over. Sad isn't it?
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*sobs*
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I just hope I can find those "out of the box" cartoons on DVD before the DVD format becomes obsolete.
Someday I hope to create my own "out of the box" cartoon. I constantly think up ideas for it every day and I really need to post the ones I drew.
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Billy and Mandy is the Goriest yet second funniest cartoon ever!
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Second?
Lemme guess. Invader Zim?
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Yeppers! They both have kid humour.
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Grim Adventures was funnier when the world was going through that "Harry Potter" phase. I think we had three *very* funny episodes with Harry Potter themes.
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You mean "Grim and Evil"? Bah! Or maybe Nigel Planter? *Muffles I don't know.*
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I loved that cartoon back when it was "Grim and Evil." Anyone remember how it was implied that Hector and Dr. Gastly had feelings for each other? Hey, we even got to meet the son they'd have together. Uuuuuuhhhhhh????!!!!! A human and a disembodied brain having a child together?! Now THAT was messed up. The kid MUST have been created in a test tube. But in cartoons like that, you're laughing too much to ask questions.
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Uhh, Kojinka, he used to be a full bodied human, until something tragic happened...
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I knew that! But the feelings between them weren't implied till AFTER his body exploded.
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Maybe she had feelings for him because he needed sympothy? Oh,and Evil had it's own show called Evil Con Carne that aired from 2003 to 2005.
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The show ended in an episode of GAoB&M where Skarr moves in next door to Billy.
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I think the reason for her feelings for Hector may have been something more.
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Jimmy Neutron is very creative, and not over-rated. However, as most cartoons, the newer episodes suck. And that really sucks.
I beg to differ. The earlier episodes of Jimmy Neutron made me REALLY bored, but it improved by Season 3. The Season 3 episodes were better in the sense that they focused more on Jimmy and his friends' adventures, but they made it even better by adding Cindy and Libby to the mix, which also helped to make it funnier, IMO. I was always kind of bored with the whole Jimmy, Carl, Sheen group. Also, the newer episodes gave us some great Jimmy/Cindy hints, especially in the unaired Lady Sings The News ep.
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Why was it unaired?
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It might be adult content except they forgot it was a kid show so they must have acsidently put adult content.
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How the heck could you "accidently" put adult content in a kid's show? They do that all the time and it's usually able to get by (but in the case of Nick, the show gets cancelled after 1-2 seasons).
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No adult content in this. It's a friggin' kids show...
But, this was just Nick being stupid. It aired in the UK, just that Nick just wanted both Jimmy Neutron and Fairly Odd Parents to end on the same day, even those both have at least one unaired episodes that aired in the UK. Why did'nt Nick promote the series finale of both shows even more by showing the unaired eps? Nick seriously treats some of their best shows like crap, except for Spongbob of cource. :\
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The problem with Spongebob is the fact that they had an ass-load of episodes already made but they saved them for after the movie came out.
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It's possible it just took Stephen a long time to get back on the show after basically concluding the series. He has chosen to make new eps set before the movie, because that's Spongbob. I can't imagine how boring it would be to see him running a restaurant. The movie ended the series basically, but the episodes of the TV show should stay the same.
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How'd it end the series? (I didn't see it. Shame on me.)
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By showing Plankton putting his final plan into play, and the introduction of the Krusty Krab 2, which Spongebob ends up being a manager of at the end of the movie. It's even been confirmed by Stephen.
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Well, Avatar: Secret of the Fire Nation just aired over here (actually it's been like 5 hours already) and I felt like giving my thoughts on it here.
Let me start by saying the title is really misleading. All they had was a gigantic drill to penetrate the walls of Ba Sing Se. Not much of a secret there. I was expecting more of Iroh's past or something related to the attack from the past.
The Serpeants Pass
+ Suki and Jet returned, even if for a short while.
+ Toph had her moments, especially a kiss she accidently gave to Suki after she rescued her.
+ I REALLY wasn't expecting a birth scene near the end of the episode. They didn't show anything explicit but still...
+ Aang unable to convince the passport lady to get on the ferry + the fake avatars + Toph basically given the tickets = Best scene ever.
+ Aang's Gang attacked by... Rayquaza!
- Emo Aang. It only lasted for this episode but still, he was really annoying.
- Toph/Sokka hints. I don't dig this shipping, and I doubt I ever will. Toph is too cool of a character to just suddenly start falling in love.
- Not enough Zuko.
- No appearance by Ozai's Angels, but they make up for it in the second part.
The Drill
+ Ozai's angels, but most importantly...
+ Ty Lee!!!
+ The fight scenes were really well done in this episode, especially Aang and Azula.
+ Aang giving homage to Fantastic Four by turning his hand into rock, resembling the fist of Ben Grimm.
+ Sokka is a huge pimp apparantly. Suki, Princess Sue, Toph and Ty Lee. What a terrible choice this guy will ultimatly have to make in the end.
+ Jet finds out Zuko and Iroh are Firebenders. Oooh, friction...
+ Surprisingly, the cliche/ignorant dumb general was highly amusing in this episode, despite being annoying on all other episodes. Maybe it's just because this episode was made of ten kinds of awesomeness.
+ Toph proved her valuableness again by sneaking them into the drill, while the L33T Earthbenders got pwned by a dancing circus girl (;D) and a bored man-chick (:-\).
- Mai did absolutely nothing in the episode besides beat up a few soldiers.
- Again, the drill was not much of a secret and thus, a letdown.
- Not enough Ty Lee
Overall, it was great with only a few flaws. Also, I'm glad to hear it'll start airing weekdays starting Monday though it won't really matter to me since I'll be getting the Book 1 set by then.
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Avatar is so lame, in fact, I'm glad they tore down the Nicleodeon Studios, so now Nick will maybe go out of buisness! HA HA HA!
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Oh boy, here we go again.
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My Father always told me to speak out everything that comes to mind. And there you have it.
MUST...KILL...BUTCH HARTMAN!
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That isn't very good advice.
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My Father always told me to speak out everything that comes to mind. And there you have it.
MUST...KILL...BUTCH HARTMAN!
Butch Hartman also created Jhonny Bravo, which was pretty good. You don't know jack squat about what makes an animated feature good.
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Who is that?
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Butch Hartman, creator of The Fairly OddParents and Danny Phantom.
" Butch Hartman also created Jhonny Bravo, which was pretty good. You don't know jack squat about what makes an animated feature good. "
Uh, no he did'nt....
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... I thought that guy looked familiar.
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If Avatar:Secret Of The Fire Nation has lots of romance then action cartoons are falling apart because Teen Titans:Trouble In Tokyo has lots of romance.
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Butch Hartman, creator of The Fairly OddParents and Danny Phantom.
" Butch Hartman also created Jhonny Bravo, which was pretty good. You don't know jack squat about what makes an animated feature good. "
Uh, no he did'nt....
I meant to say he wrote and directed, not create. Seth MacFarlane wrote and directed some of it too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Bravo
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If Avatar:Secret Of The Fire Nation has lots of romance then action cartoons are falling apart because Teen Titans:Trouble In Tokyo has lots of romance.
...Did you even watch either of them? Avatar had like, a few intimate moments between Sokka and Suki, but the rest were just little hints (Toph kissing Suki by accident thinking it was Sokka) or little flirts (Ty Lee acknowledging Sokka and Sokka waving back).
Trouble in Tokyo only had the Starfire/Robin subplot, but it didn't get in the way of the plot, nor did it make the action scenes less awesome.
Besides, I don't think there's any rule that prevents a little romance from action shows. In a way, it makes them more interesting.
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*sigh* Hoh boy. Consider yourself lucky that I can keep my rabid side in check, NB. If my cousin read that, you'd be dead right on the spot.
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Anime Lover! It's an ACTION CARTOON!
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Anime Lover! It's an ACTION CARTOON!
Actually it's an "Amerime". ;)
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Ha ha, very funny!
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I wasn't trying to be funny. That really is the type of show it's called.
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Who actually calls it that? Everywhere I go, the preferred term is "Americanime".
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My apinions:
Spongebob:None of the jokes are funny but I can't take my eyes of the screen
Fairly Odd Parents:Same as Spongebob except SOME of the jokes are actually funny
Invader ZIM:Nowadays, it is my SECOND favorite cartoon, however, I still love the cartoon(espeually the episode Misterious Misteries)
Billy and Mandy:Best. Cartoon. Ever.
Fosters:Same as Spongebob
Squirl Boy:It's mildly entertaining but thier are barly and good jokes although the episode Out Of Sight is hillarious
Ed Edd 'n' Eddy:It used to be really funny but it's going down the pooper FAST
and thats all so far.
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Who actually calls it that? Everywhere I go, the preferred term is "Americanime".
Really? I've never heard that before.
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Either way, it follows the guidelines that anime needs in order to be great.
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Lol, Anime. Lol, dumb.
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Lol, Nintendo Bros.
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Lol, I'm glad someone sees it my way. Lol, Thanx.
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YES!!! On Wiki, I've read that Futurama is coming back on the air! Only it will be on Comedy Central now. But unfortunetly, you have to wait until 2008.
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Lol, Anime. Lol, dumb.
It's hard to take you seriously when your post looks like that. If you're gonna call anime dumb, at least TRY and not make yourself look stupid.
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Lol, I believe Vid was laughing at you, not with you, my double posting friend. :P
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I have to say with complete honesty and no bias that the Super Mario Bros. Super Show really is my favorite cartoon of all time. I watched it as often as I could as a kid, and could never get enough. The other two Mario toons were nice, but they lacked that special something the SMBSS had.
I've also spent many a weekday afternoon watching Inspector Gadget.
As anime goes, I find myself a fan of Lupin III and Case Closed in particular.
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Yeah, but you gotta love the Koopalings.
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YES!!! On Wiki, I've read that Futurama is coming back on the air! Only it will be on Comedy Central now. But unfortunetly, you have to wait until 2008.
Dude, you're months late. When Futurama comes, Adult Swim's contract on the show will be expired, and they can't even air the old eps anymore, which is really sad, given that Futurama has found a home in [as].
I also wish you would'nt trash anime fans while making yourself look like a complete retard at the same time.
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Yeah, but you gotta love the Koopalings.
True. But the overall feel of SMBSS felt more... "Mario."
TAOSMB3 domesticated Bowser a little too much. I like the Koopa Kids, but it felt like they really took a lot of King Koopa's spotlight. The SMW cartoon had cave people, and this makes me very sad.
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Is there anyone besides me who firggin' loved the Donkey Kong Country TV Show? I know the characters looked kind off-model and the songs (yes it had Disney-style singing in it) were bothersome, but some of the character's personalities were spot-on (especially King K.Rool and his cronies) and it actually added a half-way decent plot to a game that had next to nothing for a plot. Heck, it may done horribly here in America, but in Japan and Europe, it went pretty well-recieved. Have a look:
Japanese merchandise:
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/nom/0002/03/page1.html#010203
Japanese Trading Card Game:
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n09/don_card/card/standard/chara/index.html
I wish they put out some of this stuff in America, but sadly, the show's existance was eclipsed by the then-super-popular Pokemon. Funny how one video game TV show was more popular than another, even though both of them were from the same company. In fact, the show's popularity overseas caused Rare to use a few concepts from the show in their next game, DK64 (such as Cranky making potons, Crystal Cocouts, K.Rool's minions being idiots), sorta like what was done with Pokemon Yellow.
Now if only they'd release the show on DVD......
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Totally forgot that.
Yes, I miss the DKC series terribly, and I wish I could find episodes.
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Oh yeah. I remember watching DKC when I was younger. It was a neat little show. I liked it. I don't remember much of it, though. The most I can remember was the episode where the Kongs found a treasure map that said there was treasure in the mines, so the Kongs went to look for it. I remember when DK admited that he drew the map with his friends when he was younger.
Another episode I remembered was when DK entered a bizzare alternite uiniverse where the Kongs (lead by Diddy) were evil amd the kremlings were good. Instead of the crystal coconut, the two partys were fighting for the "paper-mache leaf" if I remember correctly. I think DK solved the problem by showing them the Cyrstal Coconut.
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The DKC cartoons may be the only VG cartoon other than the Supercade and Captain N that I have never seen. I've seen episodes of all three Mario cartoons, The Legend of Zelda, Pokemon, both Sonic cartoons, Pac Man, and Kirby. There may be a few that I may have overlooked or have never heard of.
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Both Sonic cartoons? There were actually five total.
Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog (Zany slapstick, had the robots Scratch and Grounder)
Sonic the Hedgehog (Serious weird plot about Robotnik roboticizing people)
Sonic Underground (Same as above, but Robotnik was more laid back, and Sonic fought him with music. Weird show.)
Sonic the Hedgehog: The Movie(2-episode OVA in Japan, was released on VHS/DVD here)
And then there was that Sonic X. Plagued by kiddy sidekick syndrome to the max. At least Dr. Eggman was awesome.
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We're talking about Lord Harry now? Well, I hated the character designs, the lack of Kiddy Kong and the lack of Pirate/Sci-Fi themes like in DKC2 and 3 but it was entertaining.
Lol, Anime. Lol, dumb.
Please, if you're going to keep bashing anime, at least give reasons why you dislike it so much.
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DKC didn't lack pirates actually- They just weren't K. Rool's. Kaptain Skurvy played the part of a minor recurring villain, and was piratey as they come.
As for anime, I don't think it can be called good or bad. That's like saying "cartoons" are dumb. Some are good, some aren't. It's better to judge on an individual basis than to slam an entire country's selection of cartoons.
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That was a good show. I remember watching some episodes of it.
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Lol, I believe Vid was laughing at you, not with you, my double posting friend. :P
Correct, sir.
Really, Nintendo Bros., if you want to bash something which is looked upon as really cool by a lot of the respected members here, at least do it without looking like a buffoon (though, you've proven to me a handful of times that that is impossible for you).
So, if you can't say anything nice about anime (or back up any of your opinions about it), shaddup. :D
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As for anime, I don't think it can be called good or bad. That's like saying "cartoons" are dumb. Some are good, some aren't. It's better to judge on an individual basis than to slam an entire country's selection of cartoons.
Unfortunatly, not everyone thinks like this. There are groups of people who judge an entire genre rather than individual series. Nintendo Bros happens to be in that group.
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You can't even call anime a single genre. There are many different types. You have to consider the fact that there are really good anime series, pretty good series, okay ones, not too great ones, and pretty bad ones. Just like anything else.
Nintendo Bros. fails to consider this and instead judges the whole of anime based on certain visual similarities that most, and not even all, series share.
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Correct, sir.
Ma'am to be more precise, since I'm a female. :)
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Anime stinks.
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Anime stinks.
And to quote myself because I'm both egotistical and wise:
Please, if you're going to keep bashing anime, at least give reasons why you dislike it so much.
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Too over-dramatic.
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Too over-dramatic.
Chup just went over the fact that not all anime are of the same "genre" and that there are many different ones. A lot of anime shows (and I seriously mean A LOT, I'd think only about 20-30% of the anime created in Japan actually gets licensed in the U.S. to be dubbed) that don't get dubbed here don't have that "over-dramatic"ness that you seem to think they have. Some (lots, actually) aren't dramatic. Many genres of anime exist, it is a very vast genre (which I hesitate to call anime) with many sub-genres.
Ma'am to be more precise, since I'm a female. :)
My apologies. :P
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Too over-dramatic.
You, my friend, have not seen Bo-BoBo Bo-BoBoBo. ;)
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I.E. Poket Monsters, Dragon Ball Z> Naruto.
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I.E. the cream of the mutilated, butchered shows. Seriously, people (even a lot of "anime fans") don't understand that the term "anime" is incredibly broad. Think of it like we use the term "cartoons". In essence, it's like saying all cartoon shows are the same thing. Of course, everyone knows that isn't true. So why would it be true for another country's output of animation?
Also, there's nothing wrong with a show being "dramatic" (in some cases, I'd say there's nothing wrong with being overdramatic either). It's just usually the result of bad directing or bad voice acting on the part of the English dub team. There are some shows with beautiful English dubs.
Regarding Vid's comment, I'd say 20% is a high estimate. There's tons of anime that never makes it to America.
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You, my friend, have not seen Bo-BoBo Bo-BoBoBo. ;)
What did you mean?
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You havn't heard of Bo-BoBo Bo-BoBoBo? It's the most random/funny thing ever.
I remember seeing an episode where the main character (Bo-BoBo Bo-BoBoBo) walks into a evil castle and there's a beach party inside.
LOL
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Ha, that sounds like a novelty song.
Bo Bo Bo, b-b-b-b-b-b bo bo bo, bobobo, b-b-b-b-b-bobobo...
Yeah I know, my song is a terrible, uninspired piece of crap.
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What I like a bout the US dub of Bo-BoBo is that sometimes it makes fun of the fact that it's a translation of a Japanese show. But Lizard Dude said that the Japan one was better.
I.E. the cream of the mutilated, butchered shows. Seriously, people (even a lot of "anime fans") don't understand that the term "anime" is incredibly broad. Think of it like we use the term "cartoons".
It is because of that that I am starting to decline from using the term "anime" to refer to Japanese cartoons, seeing is how it's basically a slang term. In fact, "anime" is really the word that the Japanese use to refer to anything animated. Same thing goes for "manga" (which is for comics) and "mecha" (which is for anything mechanical).
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I.E. Poket Monsters, Dragon Ball Z> Naruto.
Uhhhhhh..........
Mabey if you watched the Japan version, you'd understand. Naruto and dubbed Naruto are so different it's not even funny.
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Okay, I hate anime beacuse it's my OPINION and it's gay to me.
And Vid, why don't you shut up beacuse its my OPINION. Keyword there, fella.
:P
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The way you state your opinion makes you look foolish
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Why not just say Japanamation?
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Okay, I hate anime beacuse it's my OPINION and it's gay to me.
And Vid, why don't you shut up beacuse its my OPINION. Keyword there, fella.
:P
Why is it your opinion? That's the worst way to back up what you say.
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Okay, I hate anime beacuse it's my OPINION and it's gay to me.
And Vid, why don't you shut up beacuse its my OPINION. Keyword there, fella.
:P
No, I think there are plenty of anime characters that are heterosexual. Using "gay" to explain something really makes you look stupid.
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I like certain anime shows such as Dragonball Z,Kirby Right Back at ya and a few others that I can't remeber right now.
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I never mentioned my favorite shows. I like watching anime most of the time. Especially Naruto and Bleach.
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I like certain anime shows such as Dragonball Z,Kirby Right Back at ya and a few others that I can't remeber right now.
Hey, I like the Kirby anime, too! :D
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I like certain anime shows such as Dragonball Z,Kirby Right Back at ya and a few others that I can't remeber right now.
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Hey, I like the Kirby anime, too! :D
As do I. Back when it was first annouced, I was very excited about it because I was a huge Kirby fan (and I still am, too). When I finally saw it sometime during the September of '02, I was all, "WTD is this!? This isn't Kirby!" I still watched it though, and as I matured, I grew a liking to the series' different style and departure from the game's story.
Recently, 4K!ds dubbed some of the never-before seen episodes. I saw one. It was the episode where Dedede and Bun (Tuff) get cavaties. I liked it.
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I dunno, the lack of music from the games (which was present in the Japan version), Kirby no longer having the ability to speak english (also in the Japan version), King DeDeDe being more of a bad guy than he was in the games, and Metaknight's Spanish accent kinda killed it for me.
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I don't like the Kirby anime SO much.I've actually started like these shows less.
I don't watch Kirby RBAY that much.Same thing with Dragonball Z.
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Kirby speaks English in the Japanese version? I would have expected Japanese, if anything. (Apparently, he only speaks very rudimentary Japanese in the anime.)
I feel that Nintendo Bros.' opinion is the first one which I can without any bad feelings say is very stupid. Especially since he gives no reason for it and acts stupid.
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it's gay to me.
Okay, now you're doing that just to spite me, aren't you? I told you to stop using that word in that way once upon a time, yet you CONTINUE to use it that way. Stop it! There are plenty of better words you can use to express disgust for something.
And Vid, why don't you shut up beacuse its my OPINION. Keyword there, fella. :P
Nah. This is a forum, opinions are going to be argued. If you don't want your opinion to be argued, DON'T COME HERE. :)
I find the way you express your "opinions" to be idiotic, and I argue them because I cannot respect yours, because you cannot respect mine. :D
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Okay, I hate anime beacuse it's my OPINION and it's gay to me.
I don't see how all of that specific subject appears to you as homosexual because that's such a broad subject, and I really disagree because it's completly untrue and you only use "gay" as an a way to make it sound bad though it would e easier to simply say you don't like it because you dislike something, so just say what you don't like about it and find a better word to describe why you hate it.
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Okay, I hate anime beacuse it's my OPINION and it's gay to me.
If we're using sexual orientation to represent our feelings for things, my opinion is that anime is totally straight.
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It's not that I hate Nintendo Bros. or anything, it's just his opinions and comments really do sound stupid. I think if he gave a valid reason, I'd agree with him, but so far, all he has been able to do is explain how "gay" it is.
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It's funny, he attacks our opinions, but when we attack his, he goes all "HEY IT'S MY OPINION SHUT UP".
Quite a baby, if I ever saw one.
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it's gay to me.
I fail to see how Japenese animation is homosexual.
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Okay, I hate anime beacuse it's my OPINION and it's gay to me.
Could you explain how you think anime is gay? I, personally, wouldn't ever call something "gay" (I'd call it "stupid"), but I'll make an exception for you if you elaborate on how you think anime is "gay". Here's an example:
I dislike anime because *reason for disliking anime goes here*
In the modern world, you're not going to get very far in life if all you say to back up your opinion is, "Hey, it's my opinion. Don't argue with it!"
I'm just saying whenever you state an opinion, to explain your reasoning for it right afterward.
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There's this new cartoon on, Viva Pinata, it's probably one of the greatest cartoons since the Pokemon anime. :D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viva_Pi%C3%B1ata_%28TV_series%29
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And GiftedGirl manages to bring all of what we were saying to a screeching halt.
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Meh, I've grown to respect GiftedGirl a bit more than some of the newer people I've encountered here.
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Well, it's better than to argue with Nintendo Bros. who'll probably never give us a real answer and is getting more attention than he deserves.
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I wonder if SNL ever spoofed any popular cartoon or videogame?
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If they haven't, they should. I'd love to see SNL spoof something like Mario.
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Well, it's better than to argue with Nintendo Bros. who'll probably never give us a real answer and is getting more attention than he deserves.
I'll never tell you...MWA HA HA...Fine, I will. This is my OPINION about anime. I don't like beacuse it's so annoying. They never make any good animes. The only good animes I like is maybe Shin-Chan and Bleach but that's it. The problem is...maybe 90% of anime isn't funny or cool enough. Now if a anime was like Family Guy or Robot Chicken, then I would like it.
Now I apolgize to Vid and any anime lovers.
Does that clear things up :/?
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I think the problem is that they don't release enough animes in the US. Just imagine if ever Japanese cartoon ever concieved was sent here....
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Have you noticed that most anime that gets brought here practically get spit on by the dubbers? There are some good dubs out there, but crappy outnumber the good, sadly. I'm glaring at companies, like 4Kids, for trashing good anime to make them more 'kid friendly'! I understand their intentions for protecting the younger audience, but that's the problem right there. The dubs wouldn't be trashed as badly if they aren't dubbed by studios that focus on the younger viewers and the younger viewers alone. There should be more than one version of dubs: one version would be the cencored, sometimes trashed stuff you see on Saturday mornings, and the other version would be an untainted version for older fans that would air on stuff like Adult Swim
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I'll never tell you...MWA HA HA...Fine, I will. This is my OPINION about anime. I don't like beacuse it's so annoying. They never make any good animes. The only good animes I like is maybe Shin-Chan and Bleach but that's it. The problem is...maybe 90% of anime isn't funny or cool enough. Now if a anime was like Family Guy or Robot Chicken, then I would like it.
Now I apolgize to Vid and any anime lovers.
Does that clear things up :/?
Oh, I get it. You're only interested in comedy...and Bleach.
Well then, mystery solved.
Have you noticed that most anime that gets brought here practically get spit on by the dubbers? There are some good dubs out there, but crappy outnumber the good, sadly. I'm glaring at companies, like 4Kids, for trashing good anime to make them more 'kid friendly'! I understand their intentions for protecting the younger audience, but that's the problem right there. The dubs wouldn't be trashed as badly if they aren't dubbed by studios that focus on the younger viewers and the younger viewers alone. There should be more than one version of dubs: one version would be the cencored, sometimes trashed stuff you see on Saturday mornings, and the other version would be an untainted version for older fans that would air on stuff like Adult Swim
...You do realize anime is getting less censored nowadays then they were a decade ago? 4Kids is really the only company today that refuses to release uncut shows and americanize stuff. I mean look at Viz and Funi. Before Viz got the license to Naruto and Funi got the rights to FullMetal Alchemist they had terrible reputations for the editing of their shows. Along they came with nearly uncut shows and bam, suddenly they're not the bad guys anymore.
And that last comment reminds me of this report from Toon Zone's Chad Lee who commented on how he attended a Toonami panel at a convention a few weeks ago and most of the questions asked were "When will Gundam air on Adult Swim again?"
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Well the statement "They never make any good animes" is false. I would say there is probably more that isn't worth watching than what is worth watching, but that stil doesn't mean there aren't good ones.
Why would you want an anime like Family Guy and Robot Chicken, when you already have those two shows? Not to say there aren't a few out there.
Also, according to some guy I know, the more violent episodes of Naruto haven't made it over to America yet, and also I hear the Viz dub of that show is not very good. I guess I'll reserve my judgment on things like Naruto until I see them, though, if that ever happens.
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"I'll never tell you...MWA HA HA...Fine, I will. This is my OPINION about anime. I don't like beacuse it's so annoying. They never make any good animes. The only good animes I like is maybe Shin-Chan and Bleach but that's it. The problem is...maybe 90% of anime isn't funny or cool enough. Now if a anime was like Family Guy or Robot Chicken, then I would like it."
Uhhh, there is actually very good anime. You can't just watch the every anime show on American broadcast and say anime is "gay". To get some good anime action, you either have to buy it, or, uhh, you could rent it. I have rented some good ones, the only thing about renting is that the VideoKing usually dosn't have all the episodes to a series. So your basically left hanging on the edge of your seat.
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No, there are a couple very good series on Cartoon Network and stuff.
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Kirby no longer having the ability to speak english (also in the Japan version)
Actually, Kirby's Japanese voice was left completely intact for the 4Kids dub. 4Kids is completely innocent when it comes to that. Not that I don't hate them with every fiber of my being, but still.
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Actually, Kirby's Japanese voice was left completely intact for the 4Kids dub. 4Kids is completely innocent when it comes to that.
Actually, I believe Kirby used to say small things such as, "Watermelon"(in japanese, of course) or the names of his attacks in the original. So 4K!ds isn't entirely innocent on that.
Altought I could be wrong.
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...You do realize anime is getting less censored nowadays then they were a decade ago? 4Kids is really the only company today that refuses to release uncut shows and americanize stuff.
Yes, I have noticed that. I was just pointing out, with a drawn-out rant, my disgust with 4Kids for continuing the trend of trashing good anime to make it more appropriate for the younger, American audience. The Pokemon anime was great back in the day, (with the exception of the fact that 4Kids left out two important episodes) but by the time of the Johto seasons, it got too repetative. I guess the reason I like the old episodes of the Pokemon anime is because at least one ep would show Jessie, James, or Meowth's life before Team Rocket. Those episodes made me deeply pity these three thieves and grow to love them. Jessie and James are really two lost children who had no real family till they found each other.
4Kids didn't dub these anime, but these dubs were actually really great and were two of my favorites back in the day: Digimon (1st season) and Dragonball (not Dragonball Z) I'm pretty sure the original Japanese Dragonball had more to it, but I was pretty satisfied with what the dub kept. Same thing with Digimon. Then again, most studios didn't worry about the physical viloence in cartoons till the complaints of parents about young kids accidentally injuring a friend using a move they learned from stuff like DBZ, while playing.
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Actually, I believe Kirby used to say small things such as, "Watermelon"(in japanese, of course) or the names of his attacks in the original. So 4K!ds isn't entirely innocent on that.
Altought I could be wrong.
Even if that is the case, it's only small things anyway. I'm glad they did this instead of just giving Kirby some bad VA, when it's totally unnessecary.
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You know, I really wish Kirby could talk. I used to envision him having a voice similar to the Toaster from The Brave Little Toaster.
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Meh, I've grown to respect GiftedGirl a bit more than some of the newer people I've encountered here.
... *blushes*
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It is true, I actually find you less annoying than people such as fuzzy, or Yoshi55. :P
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Well, it's kinda hard to find someone more annoying than them.
But to get back on topic, I thought Kirby would have a voice like that due to the voice of the announcer in Kirby's Avalanche.
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Yes, I have noticed that. I was just pointing out, with a drawn-out rant, my disgust with 4Kids for continuing the trend of trashing good anime to make it more appropriate for the younger, American audience. The Pokemon anime was great back in the day, (with the exception of the fact that 4Kids left out two important episodes) but by the time of the Johto seasons, it got too repetative. I guess the reason I like the old episodes of the Pokemon anime is because at least one ep would show Jessie, James, or Meowth's life before Team Rocket. Those episodes made me deeply pity these three thieves and grow to love them. Jessie and James are really two lost children who had no real family till they found each other.
Johto is not 4kids fault. Johto sucked to begin with. Blame the writers for running out of ideas and making all filler (which was about 60% of that season) so formulaic.
I would've now said the Advanced seasons are infinite times better, but your opinion on May makes me think you probably don't like them at all.
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You know, I really wish Kirby could talk. I used to envision him having a voice similar to the Toaster from The Brave Little Toaster.
Yeah, I agree. It would've been so cool if Kirby could talk. As for his voice, I never really thought of that, but I think it would sound soft, calm snd happy. Not overly squeaky, though. Just calm. But he'd raise his voice from time to time, like if he got into a fight.
I wonder if Kirby will have a new voice actor for SSBB?
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Ugh........I hate the Pokemon anime to begin with. It was fun when I was little, but every episode is doomed to follow the same storyline as the former.
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Ya' know something bad? All good cartoons that started off well are now going down the pooper, Examples:
Pokemon: Down the pooper, and fast.
The Simpsons: Not as fast
Ed, Edd, and Eddy: Same as pokemon!
Anymore?
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Ed, Edd and Eddy, Spongebob, Billy and Mandy, and others were all very good cartoons, but have lost their touch and the fans know it. The only two good cartoons on Cartoon Network right now are Foster's and Camp Lazlo. Everything thing else is complete and utter crap that deserves to be shoved down the pooper until the toilet itself clogs and floods the whole Earth (although I'm beginning to understand and like Kids Next Door after watching some VERY good episodes).
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There are a lot of cartoons that have the sense to end while they're still good. Not as much anymore, I guess...
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I'm happy with cartoons that end as long as there is closure to the series.
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Sonic X did not end well. Season 3 was one of the more innovative Sonic seasons ever, but it was overshadowed by complaints about horrific dubbing and terrible rewrites from people who saw the originals in Japanese. Plus, 4kids created a plothole with the Cosmo situation. In the original script, she was slated to die. But because "everything is sunshine and roses and nothing bad ever happens," according to them, they rewrote the dialog and cut out important scenes, thus removing the drama. They then did even more of a hack job on the final episode, ending it with Chris going home, but we never find out if he gets there. You'd think those were intended to indicate another season, but for now they're just plotholes.
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Ed, Edd and Eddy, Spongebob, Billy and Mandy, and others were all very good cartoons, but have lost their touch and the fans know it.
I can understand where you're coming from with Spongebob, but Edd, Ed and Eddy seems to be a lot different in the recent seasons, with it being set in autumn. I think it opened up a crapload of possibilities for the show.
(although I'm beginning to understand and like Kids Next Door after watching some VERY good episodes).
Ha! I new you'd understand at some point! Seen the KND tele-movie yet? It's awesome.
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Yes, it's what won me over. The part where Grandfather was "crushed" by the moon-base was spectacular.
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You really need to watch the episodes in order. There'a actually.... stpry arcs!
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Wait, someone actually likes the new seasons of Ed, Edd n' Eddy?
I wish CN just let it end after season 4. When I heard there was 2 more seasons coming, I was initially excited. Then I caught the new episodes one day and thought, "Oh dear, what did they do?". First off, one of EEnE's charms was that it was endless summer. Going back to school would've definitely ruined the feel of the show. And it did. Then, Eddy was changed from being a greedy, swindling loser to a mean spirited loser and the punching bag of everyone. Sure, the Eds never won in their attempts to scam the kids and more than once were beaten to bloody pulps but it never got to the point where Eddy was constantly beaten and humiliated in every single episode. Lastly, Jimmy's voice. It makes my ears bleed. Oh yeah, and Kevin and Double D now appear to be Mary-Sues. All they're missing now is an anthromorphic talking animal buddy that appeals to drooling preschoolers.
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Well, I do recall one of the key people who helped make the cartoon died shortly before season 4 ended, maybe that's one of the reasons it has lost its "charm".
I haven't watched the show in quite a long time, and caught an episode a few weeks ago. It was fine, but a little different from what the cartoon's usual formula is.
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I stopped watching Ed, Edd, n' Eddy about a year ago, but before I stopped watched, I loved it. Why did I stop watching it? The only episodes I was able to catch around that time were reruns. ......or perhaps I have a sixth sense that caught wind of its trip 'down the pooper'? O.O *Twilight Zone music plays*
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Ed, Edd and Eddy, Spongebob, Billy and Mandy, and others were all very good cartoons, but have lost their touch and the fans know it. The only two good cartoons on Cartoon Network right now are Foster's and Camp Lazlo. Everything thing else is complete and utter crap that deserves to be shoved down the pooper until the toilet itself clogs and floods the whole Earth (although I'm beginning to understand and like Kids Next Door after watching some VERY good episodes).
You could tell writers are trying with KND. Seen Operation ZERO? I never would have thought that was who Numbuh Zero was, but it makes sense now. I also loved Operation WHITEHOUSE, and to see Numbuh One grown up ( it was really cool to see Numbuhs 2 & 3 grow up, too. )
I can't agree with the Billy and Mandy thing. It's the first show on CN to make it to 7 Seasons, and I still love to see the eps. Before you decide to tune out whenever it's on, please at least be sure to watch the new Billy and Mandy TV movie coming out early 2007. Give it one more chance.
I used to hate Gym Partner, but I'm one of the few that love the character designs. The voices in Gym Partner are very good, too.
I really hate to admit it, and I mean I REALLY hate to say it, but you're probably right about Ed, Edd, N' Eddy. I loved that show but the new eps are hard to watch.
Speaking of shows getting new episodes that no one likes anymore, did anyone catch last weeks Spongebob? It was an awesome episode and reminded me of why I started to watch SpongeBob to begin with.
Random thing to say: I'm really happy CN is airing Courage all month. I loved that show.
Another random thing: My friend, Hayley, is devastated. She loved watching Danny Phantom, and when I told her it is getting cancelled, she was so sad. Speaking of which, who else hates the fact that Nick airs the DP eps out of order? The newest ep aired, Urban Jungle, was actually the 6th ep of the new season. Danny meets a friend in the ep that he met before the original date the ep was supposed to air. Why can't Nick treat DP with respect and air it in order? :\
Sonic X did not end well. Season 3 was one of the more innovative Sonic seasons ever, but it was overshadowed by complaints about horrific dubbing and terrible rewrites from people who saw the originals in Japanese. Plus, 4kids created a plothole with the Cosmo situation. In the original script, she was slated to die. But because "everything is sunshine and roses and nothing bad ever happens," according to them, they rewrote the dialog and cut out important scenes, thus removing the drama. They then did even more of a hack job on the final episode, ending it with Chris going home, but we never find out if he gets there. You'd think those were intended to indicate another season, but for now they're just plotholes.
Uh, that isn't the dubs fault. It was supposed to leave you wondering whether or not Chris got home. Though I hate the English dub of Sonic X with a burning fiery passion ( which is why I own the uncut subs )that is still not the dub's fault, though I agree with everything else you have said about your hate for the dub.
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I know, the old ED episodes were great, now, they aren't bad, but they have lost their touch.
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PaperMario: I don't hate the dub, I was just explaining why everybody else does.
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Danny Phantom was gonna get cancelled from the start, I knew it. I used to watch Nickelodeon when I was little. Ren and Stimpy is the best cartoon ever and stupid Nick had to cancel it. Invader Zim...OMG! That was even better then Ren and Stimpy. Nick used to be good from 1978-1998, then Spongebob and Fairly OddParents came and it BLOWN Nick. They make these worthless and pathetic shows now. (Mr.Meaty = Desperate) And then the real blow, they actually tore down the Nickelodeon Studios and (Gasps) THE FOUNTAIN OF SLIME!!
Here's other reasons why Nick is almost DONE:
Zoey 101: Wow, Jamie Lynn is just as bad as Brittany.
Drake And Josh: Can you say, stupid?
Avatar: Worst american based anime ever.
Danny Phantom: All my friends hate it and it doesn't have any good plots. I'm goin ghost ain't a good catchphrase either.
They cancelled good shows like: SPLAT!, Nick Guts!, AAH! Real Monsters.
What is this world coming to here?
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If it's American-based, is it an anime?
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Nintendo Bros, shut up. I've had it with you bashing anime, cartoons and everything.
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Avatar: Worst american based anime ever.
No.
Not until we see signs of JTS.
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I've gotten back into Homestar Runner again. Been watching the latest Sbemails. What do you guys think of 'em, if any of you are H*R fans?
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I actually agree with some of the stuff Nintendo Bros. said in his last post. Aaaaaaggghhh!!!! Drake and Josh and Zoey 101 are pure crap IMO. Of course, there are some things in that post that I disagree with. Once again, he's making his biased comment about hating Avatar, when he could just say he doesn't have any interest in it and avoid hard feelings. As for Spongebob. That is an awesome show, and I don't think it hurt Nick very much, if at all. But, even though I like the show, it's gradually going downhill, and it needs to end before it reaches the uncleanable muck in the drain.
Danny Phantom: It was a great show to start with, but after a while, it went down fast. Well, the TV movies were awesome. I especially loved Reignstorm and The Ultimate Enemy.
Catscratch: It had potential, but turned out to be really repetative.
Avatar should NOT end till Aang defeats the Fire Lord (I think Zuko should be the one to destroy Azula) and brings peace and prosperity back to the world.
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Sorry for the Double post, but right now, I'm mad at CN and my sattelite provider more than ever! The guide said "Princess Mononoke", a movie that I really want to see, and when I pressed select, what did I get? the Fantastic 4 cartoon! >_< To an anime fan artist, you can't get any lower than that.
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Sunbun and I were pretty annoyed about that as well. Then I checked Cartoon Network's site, and it said Pokémon Chronicles was supposed to be on at that time (and that's exactly what I saw on my TV).
So, I guess the site of the actual network is better to check than TV Guide's.
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Too bad about Princess Mononoke. It's my second favorite Miyazaki film next to Spirited Away. But Fantastic Four + Ultimate Avengers is a good enough replacement for me. I just wish UA was a series and not DTV's.
Holy crap, JLU's season finale is airing! This night is made of pure win!
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I don't really get why Spirited Away is so popular. The art is nice, but the story is utterly shallow compared to pretty much all of Miyazaki's other movies.
My favorite Miyazaki film is Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind, with Princess Mononoke very close behind.
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PaperMario: I don't hate the dub, I was just explaining why everybody else does.
Sorry. I did'nt mean to make it sound like you hated the dub because I could see you did'nt, but I guess that's just how it turned out anyway. :P
Nintendo Bros.: Is our undivided attention so important to you that you feel the only way to be accepted as a respected member is to bash something we like and expect people to reply to your posts and notice you more?
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If that's his game, I will fall for it no more!
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I don't really get why Spirited Away is so popular. The art is nice, but the story is utterly shallow compared to pretty much all of Miyazaki's other movies.
My favorite Miyazaki film is Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind, with Princess Mononoke very close behind.
Howl's Moving Castle is my favorite, mabey because I read the book.
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Howl is probably my third favorite... possibly tied with Mononoke. However, as I understand it, it's not very close to the book. Which is not a bad thing.
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Eh, some parts are tied close, while others, not so much. But I kinda got a basic feel for it, which is why I like it over the others.
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Just to remind Spongebob fans that Nick is doing a 24-hour block full of spongebob of 100 total episodes including a new one.
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But I thought you hated Spongebob.
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I would love to know why Nick thinks kids are going to watch Spongebob through late night hours on a Thursday night. I mean, a Friday premiere is understandable but really Thursday is a strange day to start a marathon.
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That is beacuse Friday is Veterans Day which means no school.
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But I thought you hated Spongebob.
I do. I was bored and I just posted it for fans of that gay Sponge.
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that gay Sponge.
*irritated sigh*
So, how many times will I have to tell you to stop using "gay" to express distaste here before you actually DO stop?
I don't care if you hate him, that's fine. I hate the cartoon as well. But I could use much better words to show that I don't like the show.
For example:
"Spongebob Squarepants is one of the most terrible cartoons ever made in the history of animation."
OR
"Spongebob's horrendous characters, music, AND humor make for an unpleasant half an hour."
You can see, my opinions look and sound much smarter than how you put it. "Gay." My sister uses "gay". She uses it on average, about 40 times a day, when referring to people, places, and things she does not like.
My sister is also in danger of failing a few of her classes.
You're a big boy. Use a vocabulary that better suits your age.
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that gay Sponge.
You know, NB is correct when he says this. Spongebob seems to be happy 99% of the time.
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Not in this context.
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I'll bet that guy would think Bert and Ernie were gay if he knew about that rumor.
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He thinks everything is gay. That's just how he is. There's no changing what he says, so might as well put up with it.
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He thinks everything is gay. That's just how he is. There's no changing what he says, so might as well put up with it.
True. It's obvious that if we have to tell NB not to use the word "gay" in the way he uses it for the ninth time, he just won't get and we should stop wasting our time on him. Why should we waste time fixing something that simply cannot be fixed? Besides, this is the toon disscusion thread, so we've got cartoons to debate about. Like Zatch Bell.
I watched this anime last night out of sheer boredom. Lemme tell ya, I'm not one to laugh at cartoons, but I couldn't help but to have a big smile on my face as I watched this 'toon. This episode wasn't focussed on Zatch and his/her owner. This episode focused on some kid with a duck beak and his owner, who was apparently a movie star with a thick itailian accent. They were trying to save a little girl's sheep from some guy and his dragon. The humor is constant, quirky and random. For example, at one part of the show, that movie star guy was walking through an inferno generated by the dragon. As he was making an awe-inspiring speech, the show switches to a shot behind the guy, showing the fire had burnt through the back of his pants, revealing his underwear.
I look forward to the next epiosode of Zatch Bell.
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In my opinion kids' anime shows have become too annoying and formulaic to tolerate. Especially Naruto - its only redeeming quality is its hard-rawking theme song, which I can practice my rad air guitar skillz on. Other than that, totally overrated.
However, I do have a soft spot in my heart for Bobo bo-bo-whatever the crap it's called. It makes about as much sense as The Evil Bread. And that much weirdness takes serious effort.
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I saw Kiki's Delivery Service today (on a local channel, which I find a bit odd), and enjoyed it quite a bit.
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I wish some of the more specific-genre animes would get sent here. I want an anime that I can relate to!
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I can relate to Kinnikuman because of Wrestling. Although it's not the kind of wrestling I do, it's just a little something, you know?
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In my opinion kids' anime shows have become too annoying and formulaic to tolerate. Especially Naruto - its only redeeming quality is its hard-rawking theme song, which I can practice my rad air guitar skillz on. Other than that, totally overrated.
First of all, if it was a kids show, it would be dubbed into Y7. It got a rating of PG. If you think the show is bad, you should watch the earlier episodes such as the ones in the Wave Country arc, then you'll understand. The show also exploits many feelings suck as betrayal, loneliness, and anger. Unless you're talking about the later episodes where they are mostly filler, then I can understand why you think it's crap. But, I'm assuming that you're watching the one on CN.
I can understand if you think it's stupid and I respect that, but it's not overrated.
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"Overrated" is overrated.
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I'm still trying to get my movie preoject off of the ground. I am currently planning that and a subsequent cartoon series based on it. You all should remember my movie from a character I have alluded to about 100 times.
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I don't remember what the heck you're talking about.
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I second Chup.
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Never mind. It's in the old Movie Ideas topic.
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Hey, that reminds me! Cyber-LepreClaw, Ninjas vs. Pirates and Citizen Pain, all coming to a theater near you!
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I have hundreds of ideas for a webcomic/animated series I hope to make someday. 'Fraid I can't tell you them at the moment. Maybe some other time when I have time to spare.