Author Topic: Can Old PC games work on newer systems (Read 15320 times)

Negative_Zero · « **on:** July 15, 2008, 09:53:50 AM »

Let's say that I have The Sims: Deluxe Edition, and it says in the MR that it works with 95/98/ME/XP and I want to install it on my new computer, but my new computer is a Vista
I have tryed this with Age of Empires II with XP, it seemed fine I think

Eclipsed Moon · « **Reply #1 on:** July 15, 2008, 12:09:20 PM »

It will probably work.

penguinwizard · « **Reply #2 on:** August 09, 2008, 02:29:03 AM »

Probably, yes. If it doesn't, try running Compatibility Mode (right-click the .exe file, Properties > Compatibility > Run this program in compatibility mode for (just choose some option there)). Maybe see if any patches exist for the game.

Oh, with you on Vista, you should install the game as an Administrator. I've heard that a lot, that you need administrator rights to install programs. Of course, if I had Vista, I'd be able to verify this, but I don't so I can't.

95% chance it's going to work anyway.

ShadowBrain · « **Reply #3 on:** August 09, 2008, 06:58:57 AM »

Anything working on Vista? That's news to me.

Eclipsed Moon · « **Reply #4 on:** August 09, 2008, 09:04:02 AM »

omglol

To my recollection Vista plays a lot of pre-XP games better than XP does.

Glorb · « **Reply #5 on:** August 09, 2008, 11:59:34 AM »

Yes, but it's in to dislike Vista.

CrossEyed7 · « **Reply #6 on:** August 09, 2008, 02:02:45 PM »

Vista is kind of like Brawl. It's not bad, it's just that we expected more after seven years.

Eclipsed Moon · « **Reply #7 on:** August 09, 2008, 02:09:37 PM »

Only two and a half months left!

Glitchy · « **Reply #8 on:** August 16, 2008, 11:02:23 AM »

Quote from: CrossEyed7 on August 09, 2008, 02:02:45 PM

Vista is kind of like Brawl. It's not bad, it's just that we expected more after seven years.

QFT. *puts in sig*

Yeah, it will work though. Its on my computer right now. (Though I haven't played it since I updated to vista)

MaxVance · « **Reply #9 on:** August 17, 2008, 03:41:34 PM »

Angle bracket quotes do not work that way. I take it you've never been to our IRC channel?

BP · « **Reply #10 on:** August 17, 2008, 03:52:36 PM »

Quote from: CrossEyed7 on August 09, 2008, 02:02:45 PM

Vista is kind of like Brawl. It's not bad, it's just that we expected more after seven years.

Seriously, my only complaint about Brawl is how overrated the Subspace Emissary is (it's like every kid's video game mashup fantasy without any imagination required, but such would be any attempt to cross Kirby and Metal Gear). And that's not even the game's fault.

nensondubois · « **Reply #11 on:** August 17, 2008, 07:07:09 PM »

I have vista and can verify that a lot of games do not run properly like Command and Conquer: First Decade, Doom, Quake, Blue Shift and some programs like Wingroove, various NES tools, and some stand alone video game music player applications are just plain garbage on vista.

Negative_Zero · « **Reply #12 on:** August 17, 2008, 07:58:36 PM »

Why the hell does it work better on my vista, then the past two pc's its been on,

Wait kinda like VC

Eclipsed Moon · « **Reply #13 on:** August 17, 2008, 10:56:57 PM »

Quote from: nensondubois on August 17, 2008, 07:07:09 PM

I have vista and can verify that a lot of games do not run properly like Command Doom, Conquer, Quake, Blue Shift and some programs like Wingroove, various NES tools, and some stand alone video game music player applications are just plain garbage on vista.

I never said that everything works better, nor am I even saying that Vista is better, but it does have a better track record for some really old games and I can't tell what you were saying there, because I'm guessing "Command Doom, Conquer" is actually some broken up Command & Conquer and Doom? If so, Doom and Quake I can verify are DOS games and they shouldn't be expected to run properly and there are source ports to help with that.

MEGAß¥TE · « **Reply #14 on:** August 17, 2008, 11:14:59 PM »

Or DOSBox.

Fifth · « **Reply #15 on:** August 17, 2008, 11:21:36 PM »

I've recently discovered DOSBox, myself. It's brought my childhood back to life.

So take THAT, Windows!

MushroomJunkie · « **Reply #16 on:** August 18, 2008, 04:33:21 PM »

I would say no. I tried to install Flash MX 2004 on my Vista and it didn't work. I tried Torque Game Engine and it didn't work. I tried other various applications and games and most all of them won't install and the ones that did just run slow and choppy. Vista's are a HUGE waste of money unless your not going to install any of your applications or games and plan on buying newer versions of everything you have.

Glitchy · « **Reply #17 on:** August 18, 2008, 06:59:35 PM »

Quote from: MaxVance on August 17, 2008, 03:41:34 PM

Angle bracket quotes do not work that way. I take it you've never been to our IRC channel?

I have before. I don't really care how it looks, as long as it gets the point cross.

And you know what's funny? How 98.9% things are indeed compatible with Vista, it's just that no one ever heard of "Properties" and "Run in Compatibilty for: (insert each and every Windows version here, besides Me)

.1% remainder is for things such as the Nintendo Wi-fi USB connector

Eclipsed Moon · « **Reply #18 on:** August 18, 2008, 07:06:22 PM »

Quote from: Glitchy on August 18, 2008, 06:59:35 PM

.1% remainder is for things such as the Nintendo Wi-fi USB connector

I don't understand. What makes that 0.1% so special? Also, Nintendo Wi-Fi USB Connector has been working for Vista since October.

Toad · « **Reply #19 on:** August 18, 2008, 07:21:03 PM »

There's this game called Dungeon Keeper, and it runs fine on my computer, except for the sound. The sound will glitch, and when the voice talks to you, it sounds like he's slow and underwater (no offense to anybody who may be slow or underwater who will read this post).

It does run great on my wife's computer, though, which is weird because both computers are from around the same time period, give or take a year..

MushroomJunkie · « **Reply #20 on:** August 18, 2008, 08:15:22 PM »

Quote

How 98.9% things are indeed compatible with Vista, it's just that no one ever heard of "Properties" and "Run in Compatibilty for:

The run compatibility for feature might let you use your program on the Vista but like I said, it's slow, and choppy.

Luigalaxy · « **Reply #21 on:** August 19, 2008, 06:26:38 AM »

The reason why the people who said they don't have Vista and said that was because you can activate it on XP that way. I've heard it automatically activates Compatability Mode if you set something, but I can't verify that because I'm running XP right now.

MushroomJunkie · « **Reply #22 on:** August 19, 2008, 07:22:47 AM »

There is something that you can download free off of I believe Microsoft's website called virtual box. Virtual Box allows you to have Any type of operating system (except mactintosh) on your Vista. So if you want your old XP on the vista you could get virtual box and get a copy of the Windows XP at pretty much any computer store (although if you bought the XP you own not used from a electronics store you should have some backup disks of your OS. Anyways you can set aside a certain amount of storage from your vista for your XP and the copy the XP on it and there. You have a Vista and a xp on one cpu.

DeadAwake · « **Reply #23 on:** August 19, 2008, 08:34:26 AM »

Actually, the name is Microsoft Virtual PC (if I'm thinking of what you're thinking). It's an emulator... and suddenly I'm wondering how many emulators you could stack on one another... Windows Vista emulating Win98 running ZSNES playing the Gradius minigame in Mystical Ninja.

I'm sure somebody else could do better.

CrossEyed7 · « **Reply #24 on:** August 19, 2008, 08:59:15 AM »

Linux on the GameCube running Windows 7-type WINE running Vista in a virtual machine emulating XP running DOSBox in Windows 2000 compatibility mode to run the DOS version of ZSNES... playing Mario All-Stars. With that MadCatz PS2 controller made to look like an NES controller.

Eclipsed Moon · « **Reply #25 on:** August 19, 2008, 02:15:35 PM »

It is indeed called Virtual PC (Sun's open source competitor is called VirtualBox, though). And I have fooled around with running emulators in it, although not doing the Gradius minigame. Also, it's not really much of an emulator, as its code is native to the processor. And that's any type of x86 operating system it can run, so OS X yes (must be hacked, though), AmigaOS no (but then you pretty much have that covered with either UAE or MorphOS).

nensondubois · « **Reply #26 on:** August 19, 2008, 05:52:38 PM »

Quote from: Eclipsed Moon on August 17, 2008, 10:56:57 PM

I never said that everything works better, nor am I even saying that Vista is better, but it does have a better track record for some really old games and I can't tell what you were saying there, because I'm guessing "Command Doom, Conquer" is actually some broken up Command & Conquer and Doom? If so, Doom and Quake I can verify are DOS games and they shouldn't be expected to run properly and there are source ports to help with that.

My mistake. I did mean Command and Conquer: First Decade and Doom as two separate games. Source ports are hard to find and not easy to setup.

Eclipsed Moon · « **Reply #27 on:** August 19, 2008, 06:33:49 PM »

My experience with source ports is the exact opposite.

Luigalaxy · « **Reply #28 on:** August 20, 2008, 06:38:23 AM »

I probably can't use Virtual Box because XP was installed straight onto the computer in The Great Crash of 2006 (The licence for my computer is actually someone else.)

MEGAß¥TE · « **Reply #29 on:** August 22, 2008, 01:23:45 AM »

That is irrelevant. VirtualBox is free software.

Toad · « **Reply #30 on:** August 25, 2008, 04:52:34 PM »

An N64 game on a Gamecube disk running on the Wii.

ShadowBrain · « **Reply #31 on:** August 25, 2008, 07:12:39 PM »

Ocarina of Time: Collector's Edition?

Toad · « **Reply #32 on:** August 25, 2008, 07:14:34 PM »

Yes. Also Animal Crossing.

Chupperson Weird · « **Reply #33 on:** August 25, 2008, 07:15:59 PM »

Animal Crossing can even be an N64 game on a GameCube disc emulating an NES game running on the Wii.
I think AC GCN is a port rather than an emulation though, whereas the Zelda Collector's Edition is an emulation.

Toad · « **Reply #34 on:** August 25, 2008, 07:25:44 PM »

Oh is it? I was under the impression that it was an N64 game that Nintendo was going to release only in Japan, but people found out about it and wanted it released elsewhere, and so they put it on a GC disk and released it that way.

Similar to how the original SSB was going to be a Japanese only release..

Boo Dudley · « **Reply #35 on:** August 26, 2008, 08:42:02 AM »

Oh boy, I can't wait to play 3-D Dinosaur Adventure again!