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Is his health care reform or deform?

Reform
7 (43.8%)
Deform
9 (56.3%)

Total Members Voted: 16

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Suffix

  • Steamed
« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2009, 05:34:28 PM »
Good points by CrossEyed and good satire by Black Mage. My personal belief is that universal health care would be very beneficial, but we need to clearly define how we will implement it before people start crying about death and socialism and the sky falling.

« Reply #16 on: August 08, 2009, 08:51:53 AM »
No, nenson's just an imbecile. He always has been, he always will be.

I may not be all that great at discussions and whatnot but I'm [darn] good at hacking.

Obama also stated that he wants the wealthy to pickup the tab.
« Last Edit: August 08, 2009, 10:35:46 AM by nensondubois »
ROM hacking with a slice of life.

Glorb

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« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2009, 10:28:07 AM »
Post of the year candidate (assuming we even have the awards this year).
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Forest Guy

  • Anything else?
« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2009, 01:57:49 AM »
What bothers me is how people who voted for Obama are complaining about it themselves. What the hell did they expect?

Personally though, I don't think nationalizing healthcare is the way to go. I just find it comical that congress keeps okaying things like it, after vowing to be a change from Bush's rapid expansion of the federal government and enormous expenditures. Way to become everything you hate, the Democratic Party.
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« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2009, 02:11:54 AM »
I think you're confused. Democrats are supposed to spend money helping the public. That's what liberal means. Republicans are the ones who were forced to become what they hate.

Turtlekid1

  • Tortuga
« Reply #20 on: August 09, 2009, 10:58:55 AM »
They're all going to spend us into oblivion, and with the Republican party's leaning more to the left recently, there seems to be less and less difference between the two.
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but death is life and so we move on"

Forest Guy

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« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2009, 11:08:41 PM »
I think you're confused. Democrats are supposed to spend money helping the public. That's what liberal means. Republicans are the ones who were forced to become what they hate.

No, I wasn't implying that democrats don't spend money. I was implying that they were behaving just the same as Bush did in terms of federal expansion, making them the same as him in that department essentially.
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« Reply #22 on: August 14, 2009, 11:18:28 PM »
Are you talking about the bailout?

Forest Guy

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« Reply #23 on: August 15, 2009, 12:32:12 AM »
Not just the bailout, just the fact he spent money carelessly himself. Military, undercover programs too. Many people who criticized him for it also likely voted for Obama, who is now spending even more money and further extending the federal government's power.
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CrossEyed7

  • i can make this whatever i want; you're not my dad
« Reply #24 on: August 15, 2009, 01:09:31 AM »
He's also planning on staying in Iraq longer than Bush was going to, iirc.
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« Reply #25 on: August 15, 2009, 02:32:55 AM »
Bailout was pretty bipartisan man, and started in the previous administration.

"Obama, who is now spending even more money and further extending the federal government's power." -- Again, American liberalism is about strong government.

And yes, CE7, we might as well blame Iraq on Obama while we're at it. *rollseyes*

CrossEyed7

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« Reply #26 on: August 15, 2009, 02:49:37 AM »
I'm not blaming the whole thing on him, I'm saying that toward the end of his administration Bush said he was planning on leaving Iraq in early 2011, and now Obama's planning on leaving in late 2011 and still leaving 50,000 troops there after we're "gone." Or maybe it was 2010. I just remember that they were both the same year, but Bush's date was earlier.
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Forest Guy

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« Reply #27 on: August 18, 2009, 06:40:59 PM »
I know the bailout was started last administration, I'm not stupid. I said that Bush was criticized for accepting the bailout and being fine with it, but meanwhile its sister, the stimulus package, is being readily accepted by a lot of people who complained about Bush signing off on TARP.

In that same line, I never said liberalism isn't about big government. I'm stating that many democrats criticized Bush for many of his liberal-esque actions, but when Obama does the same, he's President Rico Suave.
« Last Edit: August 18, 2009, 06:43:17 PM by Forest Guy »
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Turtlekid1

  • Tortuga
« Reply #28 on: August 26, 2009, 07:59:21 PM »
"It'll say life is sacred and so is death
but death is life and so we move on"

« Reply #29 on: August 26, 2009, 08:06:47 PM »
A) What is up with that guy's dancing?

B) The slo-mo piggy bank smash was cool.

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