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David

  • Trusts the fungus
« on: May 13, 2008, 12:59:09 PM »
Rare and Microsoft have released a trailer for their upcoming game Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts for the Xbox 360.  Near the end of the trailer, the bear and bird fly past a giant 8-bit Mario, and a few seconds later they blow the head off of it.  Whether that's self-referential humor regarding the departure from Nintendo or a brazen bit of bravado, it is amusing.

Go take a look for yourself...

Source: Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts Trailer, at GameVideos.com

Update: The original video was edited to remove the portion where Mario is destroyed.  Luckily, the guys over at The Rare Witch Project archived the original.
« Last Edit: May 13, 2008, 09:33:21 PM by MEGAߥTE »
Let's do the Mario, all together now!

missingno

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« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2008, 01:07:32 PM »
That game looks awful.
Ditto used Machop!

Turtlekid1

  • Tortuga
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2008, 02:26:31 PM »
Heresy!  Blasphemy!...  *watches trailer*

Oooh, explosions!
"It'll say life is sacred and so is death
but death is life and so we move on"

Kuromatsu

  • 黒松
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2008, 02:27:15 PM »
From the looks of the video, it sure looks like the old Banjo and Kazooie I knew has been lost forever.

But the game itself doesn't look all bad, in fact it kind of looks cool! ...But I'm at a loss of what this game's genre is. It actually reminded me of GTA for a couple of seconds.

Turtlekid1

  • Tortuga
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2008, 02:29:39 PM »
What?  Banjo is now a carjacking perv?  I don't believe it.
"It'll say life is sacred and so is death
but death is life and so we move on"

Wiiario

  • Has seen Kirby naked
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2008, 03:06:46 PM »
Wow... Microsoft... what did you do to Rare?! Those evil, heartless, son of a... Well. I died a little inside when 8-bit Mario's head exploded.

One thing though... Did Nintendo give them rights to use Mario's image in such a manner?! I mean, if not properly done, couldn't Nintendo sue Rare?

That aside, I think they're going overboard with Banjo Kazooie.... Just look what happened to Sonic.
I really don't care much for logic.

The Chef

  • Super
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2008, 03:27:05 PM »
Because every game that involve driving vehicles and blowing stuff up is exactly the same as GTA, right? Lord, that's what I hate about those kinds of games becoming the rule rather than the exception.

Me, I think this game looks phenominal. It may not be a straight-up Banjo game, persay, but the presence of the characters is what has the game double sold on me.

David

  • Trusts the fungus
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2008, 06:00:29 PM »
I saw a second trailer elsewhere, featuring more "traditional' BK stuff.

The first trailer just smacks of "we're trying to appeal to the stereotypical 360 crowd", though.

In five or six years, when I get a used 360, I'll make sure to try the game out.
Let's do the Mario, all together now!

Suffix

  • Steamed
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2008, 06:02:48 PM »
I didn't see anything related to Mario's head exploding. They started flying upward, there was a big Mario-built-of-blocks on a bridge... And then the next scene came.

And there was nothing related to carjacking, either! They were building stuff.

Chupperson Weird

  • Not interested.
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2008, 06:27:22 PM »
Did you watch the end of the trailer or what?
That was a joke.

« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2008, 08:06:07 PM »
Wow... Microsoft... what did you do to Rare?!

NO ONE DID ANYTHING TO RARE.

You guys don't seem to recall that tons of key staff members (Ken Lobb, etc.) LEFT Rareware before the purchase by Microsoft. Rareware was declining in quality in the late N64 era.

(I've not seen the trailer, but I do plan on getting the next game in the Banjo-Kazooie series, even if it might not be as good as the other two were.)
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"Be yourself. Everyone else is taken."

Luigison

  • Old Person™
« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2008, 08:32:05 PM »
Like Suffix I did not see Mario's head explode.  Is there a part two of this that I missed or was it edit?  Can someone who saw Mario's head explode rewatch it and/or tell me where what I'm missing is?
“Evolution has shaped us with perceptions that allow us to survive. But part of that involves hiding from us the stuff we don’t need to know."

Ambulance Y

  • raewrednu
« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2008, 08:40:13 PM »
It looks like some new territory is being explored, which is exciting but scary at the same time. But it's probably the right thing to do, since Banjo-Kazooie is a zany series to begin with and Rare's only option is zany it further. I also liked that I saw a Mumbo Jumbo house; I like him. And robot Grunty looks pretty promising too. I heard that she still rhymes everything. The new look of Banjo and Kazooie is good move too, but for some reason it doesn't really work with the old sound (Banjo's signature "duh-huh").

Hm.
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Edward has always dreamed of becoming a female monkey.

Suffix

  • Steamed
« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2008, 09:09:51 PM »
Ah, I'm glad I'm not the only one, Luigison.

MEGAߥTE

  • In flames
« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2008, 09:11:59 PM »
Looks like they removed that portion!  The filenames at the link now include the phrase WITHOUTMARIO.

Ambulance Y

  • raewrednu
« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2008, 09:14:53 PM »
In this article, it says you can drive the giant Mario.
Edward has always dreamed of becoming a female monkey.

MEGAߥTE

  • In flames
« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2008, 09:21:10 PM »
Actually, it sounds like you can build vehicles in various shapes, meaning that Mario isn't necessarily a main inclusion, just user-created content much like the recent mushroom in Boom Blox video.

Ambulance Y

  • raewrednu
« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2008, 09:22:20 PM »
Looks like Rare has some promising new characters, "Pimp Frog" and "35-Year-Old Unemployed Rhino Who Still Visits High School Girl's Basketball Games".

« Last Edit: May 13, 2008, 09:27:00 PM by Ambulance Y »
Edward has always dreamed of becoming a female monkey.

Kuromatsu

  • 黒松
« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2008, 09:29:50 PM »
New Title:

"Banjo Kazooie: Pimp my Ride"

ShadowBrain

  • Ridiculously relevant
« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2008, 09:51:16 PM »
I guess making Conker's Bad Fur Day wasn't a big enough middle finger towards Nintendo...

I was really shocked when I figured out this is some sort of weird vehicle-obsessed game. Granted, I'm sure there'll be traditional platforming, but I knew they'd screw with the formula somehow.
"Mario is your oyster." ~The Chef

« Reply #20 on: May 14, 2008, 01:24:55 AM »
Can I change my name to Pimp Frog?

The Chef

  • Super
« Reply #21 on: May 14, 2008, 12:47:15 PM »
Looks like Rare has some promising new characters, "Pimp Frog" and "35-Year-Old Unemployed Rhino Who Still Visits High School Girl's Basketball Games".

Uh, those guys are Jolly Roger and Big Al from Banjo-Tooie. Do your homework next time. All you get is a 65% average for this term.

I guess making Conker's Bad Fur Day wasn't a big enough middle finger towards Nintendo...

Where the hell did it say they deliberately made the game the way they did just to **** off Nintendo!? God almighty...

Quote
I was really shocked when I figured out this is some sort of weird vehicle-obsessed game. Granted, I'm sure there'll be traditional platforming, but I knew they'd screw with the formula somehow.

They did not "screw with the formula". They never promised us Banjo 3 in the first place. They only said they were making a new Banjo game.
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Ambulance Y

  • raewrednu
« Reply #22 on: May 14, 2008, 03:59:03 PM »
Uh, those guys are Jolly Roger and Big Al from Banjo-Tooie. Do your homework next time. All you get is a 65% average for this term.

Ah muffins, I even had that game. Nonetheless, I think they'd be cooler with my names.

I'm really glad they aren't calling this game Banjo-Threeie as Grunty implied at the end of Banjo-Tooie.
Edward has always dreamed of becoming a female monkey.

« Reply #23 on: May 14, 2008, 08:35:12 PM »
Because every game that involve driving vehicles and blowing stuff up is exactly the same as GTA, right?
Twisted Metal?
CURSE YOU... SOMEBODY!

« Reply #24 on: May 15, 2008, 12:18:00 AM »
I wanna know why Jolly Roger turned from a mayor/bartender to a pimp. XD

And on Youtube, the Mario part is still intact.
"Be yourself. Everyone else is taken."

Turtlekid1

  • Tortuga
« Reply #25 on: May 15, 2008, 12:34:01 PM »
Twisted Metal?

^ Fun game.  I keep hoping they'll come out with a good sequel for one of the next-gen consoles.

I wanna know why Jolly Roger turned from a mayor/bartender to a pimp. XD

And on Youtube, the Mario part is still intact.

Really?  Interesting.
"It'll say life is sacred and so is death
but death is life and so we move on"

MEGAߥTE

  • In flames
« Reply #26 on: May 15, 2008, 01:44:14 PM »
Not that interesting.  The video was uploaded by the people I linked in the first post before the edited version went up.

Turtlekid1

  • Tortuga
« Reply #27 on: May 15, 2008, 01:52:57 PM »
Oh.  Okay then.  I just took peoples' word for it when it was edited.
"It'll say life is sacred and so is death
but death is life and so we move on"

« Reply #28 on: May 18, 2008, 04:25:02 PM »
I never played the Banjo series due to lack of motivation and interest. How can blowing up Mario be respectful in any shape or form?
ROM hacking with a slice of life.

BP

  • Beside Pacific
« Reply #29 on: May 18, 2008, 04:56:01 PM »
Banjo-Kazooie and Banjo-Tooie are awesome games. As for respectable things blowing up Mario...


Why no, I should not have bombs or the boomerang by this point in the game. Hm.
All your dreeeeeeams begiiin to shatterrrrrr~
It's YOUR problem!

Luigison

  • Old Person™
« Reply #30 on: May 18, 2008, 05:05:30 PM »
My daughter's reaction to seeing that image was to point and say, Mario, Mario, Mario".
“Evolution has shaped us with perceptions that allow us to survive. But part of that involves hiding from us the stuff we don’t need to know."

Captain Jim

  • TwinklyMuffin
« Reply #31 on: May 18, 2008, 11:36:21 PM »
...that car building system screams "Oh God, It's Gummi Ships all over again!" to me.
No! I don't want that!

Turtlekid1

  • Tortuga
« Reply #32 on: May 19, 2008, 03:42:55 PM »
Gummi Ship building is probably the only replay value left in either KH game for me now.  I wish 358/2 days would hurry up and get released.
"It'll say life is sacred and so is death
but death is life and so we move on"

Ambulance Y

  • raewrednu
« Reply #33 on: May 19, 2008, 03:47:21 PM »
Gummi Ship building is probably the only replay value left in either KH game for me now.  I wish 358/2 days would hurry up and get released.

I just watched the trailer. Those graphics are ridiculously rich.
Edward has always dreamed of becoming a female monkey.

Turtlekid1

  • Tortuga
« Reply #34 on: May 19, 2008, 03:53:02 PM »
Is that a good thing or a bad thing?  I think it looks good.
"It'll say life is sacred and so is death
but death is life and so we move on"

Ambulance Y

  • raewrednu
« Reply #35 on: May 19, 2008, 04:05:52 PM »
It's a good thing. I thought I was watching live action.
Edward has always dreamed of becoming a female monkey.

MushroomJunkie

  • He's serious
« Reply #36 on: June 30, 2008, 08:18:52 AM »
I agree with Metal_Slug_Mario.  They did completely mess up the game.  I have been a huge fan of the banjo games since they came out so I can say that this new one coming out is not following the patterns of the originals and looks stupid.  And what do you know, it's coming out for the xbox 360.  The microsoft consoles are so stupid that they can take a good game and completely ruin it.  Goes to show that the only good games made anymore are by nintendo.  Everything else is crap.  (Except the PSP I will admit there are alot of good games for that and I like it!) :)
Probably likes Sonic games better than anyone else on the fungi forums.

BP

  • Beside Pacific
« Reply #37 on: June 30, 2008, 03:40:53 PM »
Nintendo didn't make Banjo-Kazooie or Banjo-Tooie. Microsoft isn't making Nuts and Bolts. It's Rare. And people working at Rare in the late '90s aren't working at Rare anymore. It kind of happens, you know?
All your dreeeeeeams begiiin to shatterrrrrr~
It's YOUR problem!

MushroomJunkie

  • He's serious
« Reply #38 on: June 30, 2008, 04:04:44 PM »
Dude I know that.  But they came out for the n64.  And this new one is coming out for the 360.  So can you kinda see a pattern?  nintendo good, microsoft bad?  And who knows, maybe the publishers (mircosoft) told rare how they wanted alot of the game elements done to best "fit" xbox users.  If you know what I mean.
Probably likes Sonic games better than anyone else on the fungi forums.

BP

  • Beside Pacific
« Reply #39 on: June 30, 2008, 04:17:00 PM »
No. The 360 didn't kick people out of Rare. And just as all Nintendo gamers are not ten-minus-year-olds who only play Mario games, all Xbox gamers are not twenty-year-olds obsessed with graphics and guns who only play Halo.

Besides, Banjo-Kazooie: Grunty's Revenge was pretty bad, and that was on the Nintendo Game Boy Advance.
All your dreeeeeeams begiiin to shatterrrrrr~
It's YOUR problem!

« Reply #40 on: June 30, 2008, 05:38:36 PM »
Goes to show that the only good games made anymore are by nintendo.  Everything else is crap.

Metal Gear Solid 4.
Luigison: Question everything!
Me: Why?

Chupperson Weird

  • Not interested.
« Reply #41 on: June 30, 2008, 08:40:04 PM »
Shadow of the Colossus?
Okami?
Beyond Good and Evil?

........????
That was a joke.

Luigison

  • Old Person™
« Reply #42 on: June 30, 2008, 09:07:42 PM »
Spyro the Dragon?
Resident Evil 4?
Katamari Damacy?

........????
“Evolution has shaped us with perceptions that allow us to survive. But part of that involves hiding from us the stuff we don’t need to know."

CrossEyed7

  • i can make this whatever i want; you're not my dad
« Reply #43 on: June 30, 2008, 11:17:54 PM »
Ape Escape?
Ape Escape 2?
Ape Escape 3?

........????
"Oh man, I wish being a part of a Mario fan community was the most embarrassing thing about my life." - Super-Jesse

ShadowBrain

  • Ridiculously relevant
« Reply #44 on: June 30, 2008, 11:34:57 PM »
I think I just found someone who is the polar opposite of myself...

Besides, Banjo-Kazooie: Grunty's Revenge was pretty bad, and that was on the Nintendo Game Boy Advance.
THQ was involved.
"Mario is your oyster." ~The Chef

MEGAߥTE

  • In flames
« Reply #45 on: July 01, 2008, 12:20:03 AM »
THQ was just the publisher of Rare games on GBA after Microsoft bought them.

MushroomJunkie

  • He's serious
« Reply #46 on: July 01, 2008, 08:18:06 AM »
The ape escape games are really fun.  I like playstation consoles, cause they have cool games like Jak & Daxter, ape escapes, Ratchet and clank and stuff like that.  But Nintendos stuff (I think) out does all those games by a long shot.  But seriously, I thought this was a nintendo fan site!
Probably likes Sonic games better than anyone else on the fungi forums.

ShadowBrain

  • Ridiculously relevant
« Reply #47 on: July 01, 2008, 08:19:03 AM »
Nintendo fan, not Nintendo fanboy.
"Mario is your oyster." ~The Chef

MushroomJunkie

  • He's serious
« Reply #48 on: July 01, 2008, 10:47:09 AM »
I'm not a nintendo fanboy.  I just don't like anything made for the xbox.  Actually I hate everything made for the xbox except rares stuff.  I said I like playstation stuff but I just don't think its as good as nintendos stuff.
Probably likes Sonic games better than anyone else on the fungi forums.

Chupperson Weird

  • Not interested.
« Reply #49 on: July 01, 2008, 10:49:51 AM »
I think you'd be right about Nintendo outdoing Jak and Ratchet games. That's why I didn't list them.
That was a joke.

MushroomJunkie

  • He's serious
« Reply #50 on: July 01, 2008, 12:39:18 PM »
Ape escape is my favorite playstation games :)
Probably likes Sonic games better than anyone else on the fungi forums.

ShadowBrain

  • Ridiculously relevant
« Reply #51 on: July 01, 2008, 01:07:22 PM »
I'm not a nintendo fanboy.  I just don't like anything made for the xbox.  Actually I hate everything made for the xbox except rares stuff.  I said I like playstation stuff but I just don't think its as good as nintendos stuff.
Well, alright then, but you said "I thought this was a Nintendo fan site" like three people enjoying PS2 games transforms it into the Sony forums.
"Mario is your oyster." ~The Chef

MushroomJunkie

  • He's serious
« Reply #52 on: July 01, 2008, 01:13:44 PM »
No I didn't intend for it to look like that.
Probably likes Sonic games better than anyone else on the fungi forums.

Turtlekid1

  • Tortuga
« Reply #53 on: July 02, 2008, 06:34:44 PM »
Goes to show that the only good games made anymore are by nintendo.  Everything else is crap.

Crash Bandicoot?
Kingdom Hearts?
Spyro (already mentioned, but worth mentioning again)?
Twisted Metal?
"It'll say life is sacred and so is death
but death is life and so we move on"

« Reply #54 on: July 02, 2008, 07:52:19 PM »
That's the scariest list of good games not made by Nintendo I've ever seen.

Ambulance Y

  • raewrednu
« Reply #55 on: July 02, 2008, 10:35:42 PM »
What about Awesome Possum Kicks Dr. Machino's Butt?
Edward has always dreamed of becoming a female monkey.

Turtlekid1

  • Tortuga
« Reply #56 on: July 03, 2008, 08:01:48 AM »
What about it?  I've never heard of it, so it must not be worth playing.
"It'll say life is sacred and so is death
but death is life and so we move on"

MushroomJunkie

  • He's serious
« Reply #57 on: July 03, 2008, 08:50:42 AM »
Crash Bandicoot is AWSOME!  I tried twisted metal but I don't think that it's that good.
Probably likes Sonic games better than anyone else on the fungi forums.

ShadowBrain

  • Ridiculously relevant
« Reply #58 on: July 03, 2008, 09:21:35 AM »
What about it?  I've never heard of it, so it must not be worth playing.
I'm pretty sure he's joking (well, the only time I heard about that game was in an article making fun of a print ad for it, so maybe it was a sleeper hit).
"Mario is your oyster." ~The Chef

Ambulance Y

  • raewrednu
« Reply #59 on: July 03, 2008, 09:44:07 AM »
It exists.
Edward has always dreamed of becoming a female monkey.

ShadowBrain

  • Ridiculously relevant
« Reply #60 on: July 03, 2008, 09:45:30 AM »
No, I know it's real. Why else would I have put in that last sentence?
"Mario is your oyster." ~The Chef

« Reply #61 on: November 21, 2008, 03:20:24 PM »
I played the demo of this game. Nothing relating to Mario, there's a portion of this song which I'm like, 99.8% sure was in DK 64. Also, I saw a random Xbox game in the water. It's odd...

« Reply #62 on: November 21, 2008, 09:08:03 PM »
Oh it wasn't random. :)

Deezer

  • Invincible
« Reply #63 on: November 21, 2008, 09:25:27 PM »
So Nuts & Bolts does have a Mario reference after all.

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