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Title: Lost Levels
Post by: BP on May 09, 2013, 02:52:24 AM
Has anyone else actually beaten it?

Yes, anyone else: I beat 8-4 earlier and am adamantly declaring worlds 9 and A-D as post-game (although world 9 turned out to be a joke and I'm up to C-3 or C-4). No warps, alternated between Mario and Luigi as I felt would be effective, played the SNES version, hacked to fix the brick physics to work as they did in the NES version, emulated on the Wii and played with a Classic Controller.

I finally got to mark Super Mario All-Stars and Deluxe as Beaten on my Backloggery. All-Stars, the first game I ever owned. And after 16 years, I've finally beaten it.
Title: Re: Lost Levels
Post by: Lizard Dude on May 09, 2013, 11:02:03 AM
I'm fairly sure I beat the Lost Levels in SMB All-Stars and SMB Deluxe as Luigi but not Mario. But I could be wrong and I'm not going to setup the systems and dig out the cartridges just to check.
Title: Re: Lost Levels
Post by: Toad on May 09, 2013, 11:31:04 AM
I'm fairly sure that I beat All*Stars on the Snes with Mario. It's been several years since I've done it, and I haven't felt compelled to do it again..

SMBDX I know I have, but isn't it missing World A-D?
Title: Re: Lost Levels
Post by: The Chef on May 09, 2013, 07:24:56 PM
Yes it is. It's also missing the other features unique to Lost Levels such as wind, red piranha plants and poison mushrooms.
Title: Re: Lost Levels
Post by: jdaster64 on May 10, 2013, 05:26:29 AM
I got to D-4 in the SMAS version in one playthrough (sadly, didn't beat it), without using the unlimited 1-ups trick with Mario.  Of course, that's with 5 starting lives.  I haven't played it in a while, so I don't know if I could do the same with Luigi.  I should try it on the Wii VC version for authenticity, I suppose.  Or the GBA Famicom Mini version, that cart's collecting dust someplace.  I've played through the whole game a couple of times with both Bros. on the SNES and GBC versions, at any rate, but not without continuing.
Title: Re: Lost Levels
Post by: CapnCrunch53 on May 28, 2013, 02:31:14 PM
Somebody over on Digitpress was working on perfecting the game for around 2 years, trying to beat it (just the first 8 worlds) without getting hit and without using a mushroom. He finally succeeded this past Christmas. Here's a link to his post; I can't imagine doing something that intense! http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?165508-My-xmas-miracle-came-early-SMB2-mastery
Title: Re: Lost Levels
Post by: jdaster64 on May 28, 2013, 03:34:24 PM
Wow; I can't imagine ever being able to do that.  The castles from 4-4 on are all so difficult; I can't imagine passing them all without a powerup or death.
Title: Re: Lost Levels
Post by: BP on May 28, 2013, 03:44:58 PM
I had unlimited continues and I needed all of them.
Title: Re: Lost Levels
Post by: bobbysq1337 on May 29, 2013, 06:37:52 AM
I had unlimited continues and I needed all of them.
Did your A button fall off when you were done playing?
Title: Re: Lost Levels
Post by: BP on May 29, 2013, 01:33:37 PM
Y= run, B=jump.
Title: Re: Lost Levels
Post by: bobbysq1337 on May 29, 2013, 10:16:19 PM
Continue
When your game is over, hold A and press Start on the title screen. This lets you continue from the beginning of the world that you were defeated in. For example, if you died in World 3-3, you'll continue from 3-1.

Although, that only applies to SMB1 so my joke is still weak.
Title: Re: Lost Levels
Post by: BP on May 29, 2013, 10:31:26 PM
SMAS, you just continue off of the level you got the game over on, not the start of the world. Lost Levels only, though; other games will send you back to the world's beginning.
Title: Re: Lost Levels
Post by: tristianc24 on June 01, 2013, 03:37:21 AM
I've beaten it., unlocked World 9 as well
Title: Re: Lost Levels
Post by: Kimimaru on June 04, 2013, 11:42:26 PM
I've beaten it a few times several years ago, also unlocking World 9. It's definitely one of the harder Mario games, but I remember another Mario game being harder. I can't remember it right now, though.
Title: Re: Lost Levels
Post by: CrossEyed7 on June 07, 2013, 07:57:44 PM
I still haven't beaten the original SMB. I'm on 8-3 right now on my 3DS. I'm using savestates, but only at the beginning of levels (except for one time right before the flagpole on 8-2 (http://themushroomkingdom.net/maps/smb/8-2), because I knew I was going to miss that jump on the staircase, and I did, and then I loaded state and got it on the second try).
Title: Re: Lost Levels
Post by: Lizard Dude on June 07, 2013, 09:29:45 PM
savestates

(https://themushroomkingdom.net/board/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FbBQ90.gif&hash=7c762534a9aef6a94d1d0ad0e0a14959)
Title: Re: Lost Levels
Post by: Jman on June 08, 2013, 07:01:45 AM
I still haven't beaten the original SMB. I'm on 8-3 right now on my 3DS. I'm using savestates, but only at the beginning of levels (except for one time right before the flagpole on 8-2 (http://themushroomkingdom.net/maps/smb/8-2), because I knew I was going to miss that jump on the staircase, and I did, and then I loaded state and got it on the second try).

Same boat.  I have never once beaten the original SMB.  I've beaten 2 and 3, but never the original.
Title: Re: Lost Levels
Post by: bobbysq1337 on June 08, 2013, 11:31:22 AM
I'm so glad I'm not alone.
Title: Re: Lost Levels
Post by: BP on June 08, 2013, 12:08:27 PM
I don't think most new Mario games are actually easier than most old ones (LL is downright sadistic though and will have you relying on level memorization akin to Ghosts 'n Goblins sometimes). They just have a stronger grasp on players' attention. You want to see if you unlock anything, you want to keep each level's little gimmicks coming, you want to know what the final boss fight is like. I don't think it's worse this way. There are just more reasons to keep playing than the determination to finish now.

So I am saying that SMB1 is a piece of cake, but a comparatively boring one.
Title: Re: Lost Levels
Post by: The Chef on June 08, 2013, 12:34:13 PM
NSMBWii and NSMB2's extra levels are roughly on the same level of difficulty as Lost Levels, though for different reasons.
Title: Re: Lost Levels
Post by: jdaster64 on June 10, 2013, 09:51:52 AM
I played the Wii VC version again about a week ago for the heck of it.  Surprisingly, it wasn't as difficult as I thought I remembered it being; 4-4, 5-4, 8-1 and 8-4 were the only levels that cost me more than three lives (though I got incredibly lucky on 7-4).  Then I played it again as Luigi.  I can't believe I ever thought his superior jumping was worth the loss in acceleration and traction; I lost twenty-plus lives on 8-4 alone due to his inability to do those backwards cliff-jumps properly.

But yeah, memorization is pretty much required to get decent at the game.  Even still, I find the original version somewhat reliant on luck; due to sprite limits, there's several places where you have to be wary of the potential of missing/reappearing enemies.