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« on: September 11, 2001, 05:02:02 PM »
I come to this board to this?  No posts on the tragic event of Tuesday for me to reply too?  Man, it's pathetic!

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« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2001, 10:48:56 AM »
It makes sense to a Mid-East perspective:

Oilman gets elected president.
A close "friend" of large, unscrupulous oil companies, he decides to open up drilling in Alaska.
Middle East oil nations see that their own oil will lose value.
Middle East takes initiative.

Is it any wonder?  Last time a Bush was in the white house there was war with the Mid East.  George W. Bush is simply following in his father's footsteps..

Desert Storm 2:  Desert "Dubbya" Storm.

(Oh, and try not to take my comments the wrong way.  I've got a rather cynical view of politics and humanity.)

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Go Moon!

« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2001, 11:33:36 AM »
I tried to post something, but it didn't get posted. Could someone please fix this stupid posting system so I could post stuff?!
Anyway, nothing like this has ever happened in my lifetime, so this is horrendous. But we still don't know who did it, so I'm not going to point fingers (index or middle) at the Middle East.

Exit, stage right! ;)
Exit, stage right! ;)

« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2001, 01:14:10 PM »
So your saying that The "Dubya" as you call him planned this whole thing? Im surprised at you Fifth making fun at this solumn hour

It''s a me Marionut#1
It's-a me, Marionut#1!

« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2001, 01:58:57 PM »
Here, in Argentina, the first thing that pops out in your mind is: 'U.S., uh? Who cares. They deserve it. They fuc.ked up almost every country on the world and they are still doing it. They dropped bombs on Bagdad and no one said nothing. Come on!, they sure deserve it. They dropped H-bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Their C.I.A. helped the Army of many many Latin-American countries to reach the 'Presidence', and then started talkin' about how idiots and mean Latinamericans were for having an Army on the Presidence. So, fuc.k the U.S. They are a bad country'.
Then you remember that your ex-president is currently in jail, waiting to go to the Court under the charges of selling weapons to Croatia and other countries in war. And you start to get a little perspective.
More than 10.000 persons died for sure. Some numbers talk about more than 5 thousand people. And they were innocent.
None of them dropped bombs on Japan, none of them dropped bombs on Bagdad, none of them helped Armies to rule several countries. Probably, a lot even weren't Americans.
I myself didn't sell any weapon to Croatia. Who did? GOVERNMENT. People we choose for ruling on us. People we choose for protect us.
The flag doesn't matter. A mother****er of the government here is as mother****er as a mother****er from the U.S. That's here and in Mars. (The same thing may apply to most rich people)
That people don't care how many people die, but how much money they have in their wallet. That people will make you believe anything they want you to believe if that makes you give them money or power.
For using an American example, everyone (they) always hated black people. Racism. You get the idea. But then, whoa, Viet-nam War: Go die in the war, black dude! You are as American as I am! Go there and prove it! Die in a war that doesn't belong to our country so I get more money! Go on!
-insert diabolic laugh here-
Get it?
The point is: blame Bush, or whoever who did bad things to others. He may not be responsable of the death of many people in the U.S. ... But what about the mid-East?
And now he wants to send you to war. Haha. Good President you have. Nice guy. What is next? World War III? Nuclear attacks? How many people is going to die on the next months/years? None of the guilty people, for sure. No matter how many soldiers die at war, none of them dropped bombs on New York, nor Bagdad.
Try to get things right. It's hard, I know. It's even harder when you feel punched and anger. But is something one has to do. Who nows where the next bomb is gonna be dropped, or who's gonna die first.
There's no such thing as 'country'. Please don't start with your well-known American patriotism. If there is one thing the Argentina Republic has in common with the United States of North America, it's
the patriotism. But i'm starting to think that patriotism is something made-up by the same people who want us to give them our votes and money and want us to die in war for them.(the War have been used as a distraction for the People so many times that is almost a cliché now. For one example, you have the Malvinas-Falklands war -Argentinians stopped complaining about the Dictature and Englishs stopped complaining about low payments, just to kill each other-).
I mean, patriotism is O.K. if it makes all us UNITE, not (god), not KILL EACH OTHER!!
Do you know why the Socialism (yeah, I know: socialism, bad, red, not red, blue and white, bla, bla, bla: stop with that please, comunism may be wrong or evil but socialism is as bad as any other government policy), I repeat, (my '()'s are too long, I know) do you know why the Socialism was such a hit on the world? The shout 'WORKERS OF THE WORLD, UNITE!!' had a point. An Asian opressed worker had much more in common with an African oppressed worker than with an Asian rich-oppressor guy.
Things like Goodness, Evil, Money, Power, Emotions, are stronger than countries, patriotism and flags. Oh, they so are...
So, where am I going? Be very carefull with what you hear and say and with the people you support. keep in mind who's fuc.king who.
Now, you Bush said 'coward attack', he said 'we're gonna punnish them'. Wasn't it coward to drop A.I. bombs and rockets on the mid-east? Isn't himself guilty of the death of many citizens? Coward attack? A guy killing himself on a plane, crashing against the Pentagon, considered an unreachable place, of the most powerful country on the planet? More coward than a guy pressing a button? Wake up, Bush is lying and knows it.

Now, that was just a 'war tactics insight', if you wanna call it that way. Please, get what I say. I'm not saying that terrorism is good or anything.
At the end, I just feel sorry for all the people that have died. Seriously. After all, I liked New York, through the movies and such, and technicly I'm closer to N.Y. than Bagdad (yeah, right. Like if americans cared so much when WE die). Back to the subject, lots of innocent persons have died. :-(.
I kinda hate this world sometimes...
The good thing (I hope) is that, here we are: young people of the world, chatting, wishing a better place for anyone. Let's try to have that in mind in the future, when we grow up and become 'real' Americans and Argentinians, and that way, maybe a bit more far away from each other.
Let us remember: getting farer to people like us and closer to people who wants to cheat us to give them power, using arguments as patriotism, race differencies, etcetera: BAD MOVE.

Hope you get this straight and hope this serves you for something. If you have reached this point, thank you; I know it was long, but so I hope it was worth it.
Thanks.
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(yeah, I know I've posted the same thing on the other topic but... oh well)

Edited by - Sanctus Yago on 9/12/2001 1:09:13 PM
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« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2001, 02:13:14 PM »
your full of it yago. WW3? whos going to side with terrorist? How is fighting back cowardly as compared to what they did? We bomb a few countrys but we never did anything that wasn't nessicary ( excludeing veitnam ). I don't want war cause I don't want to worry about my dad going in to fight since he's a major in our army, but war may, MAY be our only choice. If we don't bomb the country that did this then alls were doing is takeing this lieing down, and I sure as hell know that thats not the way we Americans handle things, I don't know about your country. We have to bomb the source to show terriorest we are not afriad and we will fight back and we will win!!!

"I'll never look back, I''ve got no regrets. 'Cause time doesn''t wait for me...I choose to go my own way." - Sonic the Hedgehog

Edited by - Sonic on 9/12/2001 4:04:44 PM
"I''ll never look back, I''''ve got no regrets. ''Cause time doesn''''t wait for me...I choose to go my own way." - Sonic the Hedgehog

« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2001, 05:33:02 PM »
and as for you fifth thats pretty low. I don't care if you like busch or not but nows not the time to b*tch about him like all the other democrates do.

"I'll never look back, I''ve got no regrets. 'Cause time doesn''t wait for me...I choose to go my own way." - Sonic the Hedgehog
"I''ll never look back, I''''ve got no regrets. ''Cause time doesn''''t wait for me...I choose to go my own way." - Sonic the Hedgehog

« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2001, 05:45:20 PM »
I think this is very important as well its from a CANADIAN, even I couldn' of said it better myself, I got this in an email from my friend.

> America: The Good Neighbor
>
> Widespread but only partial news coverage was given recently
> to A remarkable editorial broadcast from Toronto by Gordon
> Sinclair, a Canadian television commentator. What follows is the full text

> of his trenchant remarks as printed in the Congressional Record:
>
> "This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans
> as the most generous and possibly the least appreciated people on all
> the earth.
>
> Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy were
> lifted out of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in
> billions of dollars and forgave other billions in debts. None of these
> countries is today paying even the interest on its remaining debts to the
> United States.
>
> When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans who
> propped it up, and their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the
> streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it.
>
> When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the United States that hurries
> in to help. This spring, 59 American communities were flattened by
> tornadoes. Nobody helped.
>
> The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped billions of dollars into
> discouraged countries. Now newspapers in those countries are writing about

> the decadent, warmongering Americans. I'd like to see just one of those
> countries that is gloating over the erosion of the United States dollar
> build its own airplane.Does any other country in the world have a plane to

> equal the Boeing
> Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10? If so, why don't
> they fly them? Why do all the International lines except Russia fly
> American Planes?
>
> Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or woman on
> the moon? You talk about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios. You
> talk about German technocracy, and you get automobiles. You talk about
> American technocracy, and you find men on the moon - not once, but several

> times - and safely home again. You talk about scandals, and the Americans
> put theirs right in the store window for everybody to look at. Even their
> draft-dodgers are not pursued and hounded. They are here on our streets,
> and most of them, unless they are breaking Canadian laws, are getting
> American dollars from ma and pa at home to spend here.
>
> When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking Down through
> age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad

> and the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an old caboose.
> Both are still broke. I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced
> to the help of other people in trouble. Can you name me even one time when

> someone else raced to the Americans in trouble? I don't think there was
> outside help even during the San Francisco earthquake.
>
> Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one Canadian who is ****ed
> tired of hearing them get kicked around. They will come out of this thing
> with their flag high. And when they do, they are entitled to thumb their
> nose at the lands that are gloating over their present troubles. I hope
> Canada is not one of those."

"I'll never look back, I''ve got no regrets. 'Cause time doesn''t wait for me...I choose to go my own way." - Sonic the Hedgehog
"I''ll never look back, I''''ve got no regrets. ''Cause time doesn''''t wait for me...I choose to go my own way." - Sonic the Hedgehog

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« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2001, 11:01:31 PM »
Gaah!  You've both taken it the wrong way!

Marionut#1:  I didn't mean to insinuate that Bush had planned on any sort of terrorist retaliation; I was simply saying that Bush's tactics have similarities to his father's (no surprise there,) and other countries will naturally take a similar sort of mentality towards it.

Sonic:  I like to try and keep an impartial (though generally withdrawn) view when it comes to politicks.  My statement was meant only as a logical possibility of what might have been the situation.  I'm sure I could've gone without calling bush "oilman," but that's just the cynic in me.
Still, I concede how easily my remarks could have been viewed in ill light and seen as what they weren't (hence my disclaimer.)  So, in the interests of peacekeeping, I'll happily rescind anything that anyone might deem unjust and try to bite my toungue in the future..

Go Moon!
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« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2001, 09:34:34 AM »
I think Bush isn't to blame because of all of this. If this was so perfectly planned out like people say it was, then it would have taken an incredibly long time to train and find out stuff, maybe even before Bush was thinking about the Presidency.
Exit, stage right! ;)

« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2001, 09:50:53 AM »
its ok fifth, we were just all mad right now so were automaticly jumping to conclusions and stuff, no harm done, I hope the smae goes with you.

"I'll never look back, I''ve got no regrets. 'Cause time doesn''t wait for me...I choose to go my own way." - Sonic the Hedgehog
"I''ll never look back, I''''ve got no regrets. ''Cause time doesn''''t wait for me...I choose to go my own way." - Sonic the Hedgehog

« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2001, 08:22:17 PM »
My thoughts. Im just extreamely glad Gore isnt the pres at this time. Hey sanctos you can thank clinton for all that crap that you said.

I hate librals and uh.. abortions!

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« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2001, 01:46:59 AM »
The thing I hate most about Yanks is their over the top patriotism. Yes, this is a very bad thing that has happened, but dont crack the ****s over it.



 

« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2001, 01:40:45 PM »
I dont Blame Bush For this at all. I Blame the worst president in US history: WILLIAM JEFFERSON CLINTON!!!! Say, this is looking like the "Day of terror letterby Mario Maniac. Same posts. And I agree 1000% with you Mallow

It''s a me Marionut#1

Edited by - marionut#1 on 10/4/2001 12:43:48 PM
It's-a me, Marionut#1!

« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2001, 08:29:16 PM »
what was that coment suppose to mean yoshi? I think you can ask yago what happens when you insult america. It may not be what your doing but it sounds like it. I'm sorry if I'm wrogfully accuseing you.

"I''ll never look back, I''''ve got no regrets. ''Cause time doesn''''t wait for me...I choose to go my own way." - Sonic the Hedgehog
"I''ll never look back, I''''ve got no regrets. ''Cause time doesn''''t wait for me...I choose to go my own way." - Sonic the Hedgehog

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