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Title: The Toad Game
Post by: Toad on September 19, 2006, 07:03:16 PM: What if Toad had his own game? What would it be like? Would he stomp on things (like the Bros)? Would he have wild mood swings (like Peach)? or would it be something completely different (like.. something completely different)?

Thoughts?? (if this should be in another part of the FF, please tell me)
Title: Re: The Toad Game
Post by: Robert on September 19, 2006, 07:23:26 PM: Technically, Toad already has his own game. It's called Wario's woods. It's a puzzle game, where toad has to beat Wario. I believe there is some info on the site...

Do you mean if toad had his own Platform game? It would be something completely different. Perhaps maybe a puzzle platformer, with little tasks or puzzle along the way. The plot would be something like, "When Mario and Luigi are out fighting some new evil in some far of land, Bowser Kidnapps Peach! Now only Toad can save the princess!"
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Post by: DeadAwake on September 19, 2006, 10:28:13 PM: I wonder what the mushroom cap part of his head feels like... Is it a vital point?
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Post by: Ultima Shadow on September 19, 2006, 10:48:14 PM: I actually had this weird dream involving a game about Toad. It was just like SM64, but, instead of stomping on enemies, you couldn't harm them directly... you had to use shells, crates and even other enemies to harm them. It was much like a 3D version of SMB2. imo, it would make an interesting and unique game.
Title: Re: The Toad Game
Post by: AbercrombieBaseball on September 19, 2006, 11:30:41 PM: It would be Super Mario 64 but the plumber never came. So the Toad who you see at the start of the castle had to do it himself.

I don't know how he would be able to lift the heavier bad guys (like bowser and the huge bomb) but it would be interesting.
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Post by: Screech on September 20, 2006, 01:00:37 AM: A Toad game could revolve around Toad having to rescue a female toad(Toadette, I guess) from an evil, rival toad. Like, maybe a poisonous toad. It would kind of make sense to have him throw stuff at bad guys.
Although, If Nintendo really were to give Toad his own game, it'd probably be a minigame collection or something.
Title: Re: The Toad Game
Post by: DeadAwake on September 20, 2006, 01:33:56 AM: I don't like the idea of making the cast all toads. It's good to make new connections like that, but it's even more important to harbor and develop the ones that already exist. Mario, Luigi, Princess, et al should be in the game--it just happens that Toad is the character you control.

It would be a great opportunity to show the inside of the castle... I've always wanted to explore the castle. Other games have always used it as a sort of backdrop for the real action--like Mario 64 with the plain, generic rooms--but Toad's life practically is the castle. You could have a whole game taking place in that huge castle... with maybe the courtyard and a little greenery out front.

As for the premise, that's never been the focus of Mario games, so that shouldn't get in our way. I'll go with this: Mario & Friends leave the castle--say, on a picnic. While gone, Toad must look after everything. He's also sort of the "in charge" guy, who all the other castle guards look to for guidance.

Even without Peach and the Bros., the castle should be full of life. So, I'll put a dungeon on the bottom floor--full of all the bad guys you wouldn't expect to be hanging around otherwise. Meanwhile, there are some lurkers--say, shy guys or boos--and there are pet chain chomps or wigglers scattered here and there. Plus, you've got the legions of castle guards and maybe a few travellers or guests.

Anyway, at some point, a conflict arises... I'm gonna go with castle siege. But it's not an ordinary Bowser-in-the-copter siege: No, this one's different. I don't know who should be in charge--maybe an uprising from the dungeon, perhaps--but the goal of the siege is simply to make a mess of things. It'll be like when you were a kid, home alone with your brother or a friend: Someone made a big mess, and you need it clean before Mom & Dad come back. You need to erase everything back to the way it was--and catch the bad guys. That's the premise of this game.
Title: Re: The Toad Game
Post by: Ultima Shadow on September 20, 2006, 02:40:35 AM: Quote from: AbercrombieBaseball on September 19, 2006, 11:30:41 PM
It would be Super Mario 64 but the plumber never came. So the Toad who you see at the start of the castle had to do it himself.

I don't know how he would be able to lift the heavier bad guys (like bowser and the huge bomb) but it would be interesting.

Toad's actually one of the strongest Mario characters. In SMB2, he lifted up vegetables almost as tall as him, not to mention many a gigantic Shy Guy.

Anyway, a game like I mentioned would go well on the DS. I could imagine Toad waddling along, picking up an enemy, twirling him in circles with the stylus and throwing him.

But, yeah, the castle is too plain. We want to see the actual rooms, not just the paintings! x_X
Title: Re: The Toad Game
Post by: The Chef on September 20, 2006, 01:06:45 PM: I like DeadAwake's idea. It's like a Mario-fied Home Alone. But I once had this idea many years ago where Toad can only beat enemies using a fishing pole. Must've been some sort of Sonic Adventure sydrome. Another idea I had was a Zelda-ripoff, where Toad used a sword and shield and everything.

As of recently, I pondered up an idea where the cast is made up of all the boss characters from Wario's Woods, some of which are good guys now, and the bad ones have a new leader, an evil Toad. Yes I know it sounds lame, and I even considered naming him Watoad after our own Fungi Forum mod(where ever the heck he may be now), but he'd be sorta unique for a mushroom person, considering that he's very large and has the poison symbol on his cap. I also considered having a group of evil Toads, each a different color, like the anthisis of the Toads from SMS. Their leader would be this very old Toad sorcerer who wants to rule the entire Mushroom World or something and get rid of all humans and any other species that isn't mushroom-related and stuff. Something unexpected, eh?

The gameplay was to be in the style of Bubble Bobble, with each stage being one screen. The goal would be to destroy all the enemies in the stage (which would be the ones from Wario's Woods, along with a few new ones) and to do so you'd have to use objects scattered about, like US's idea.

I also had an idea for 2-player co-op mode, with second player controlling a palette swap of Toad like in Wario's Woods (probably with a different name, though I couldn't think of a good one. Anyone care to help me out on this?) or Toadette, or maybe have the option to choose from a bunch of sifferent Toads, each with their own abilities (this could be something introduced in a sequel).

Speaking of sequels, I figured there's be a few, maybe even a spinoff puzzle game wich serves as a successor to Wario's Woods, though with a new title and premise due to Wario not being a majoe character anymore.
Title: Re: The Toad Game
Post by: Toad on September 20, 2006, 01:54:52 PM: I had an idea pretty recently, where a sequel to Wario's Woods was made, but it was more of a WW remake, with Wario Ware characters.

I don't know, but I really don't care for the idea of an evil Toad, since Nintendo aleady has a backlog of Mario characters they haven't used in several years (Tatanga, Wart, bosses from SMB2).

Someone from the Wario Ware cast could be Toad's rival, since Nintendo thinks everybody needs an evil twin in the Mario-verse.. or actually, the evil Toad idea could work. They could call him the Nema-Toad, and he would have the look of a poison musrhoom gone bad (or actually, gone worse, since Posion Mushroom are already bad..)
Title: Re: The Toad Game
Post by: Bigluigifan1.0 on September 20, 2006, 02:41:12 PM: http://mfgg.net/index.php?act=resdb&param=02&c=2&id=501
Wanted to bring that up. Anyhow, an official game by Nintendo might happen when you look at things like SPP, emaning it'll probably end up on the DS as well, but I think a Toad game would be a good idea to take a shot at because a lot of people do want to see the little guy do somthing besides be a weapon ect.
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Post by: The Chef on September 20, 2006, 07:25:07 PM: After much pondering and searching, I finally have a list of characters from Wario's Woods for reference. There's also a brief description next to each.

Enemies
Fuzz-Most common enemy. Resembles a Shy Guy.
Spud-Picture a sentient version of the vegetables from SMB2.
Squeak-Little furry guy. Probably my favorite.
Beaker-Looks sorta like a buff Fuzz. My least favorite.
Scram-It's Pikachu wearing a tutu. Could be female.
Spook-Odd mushroom-shaped thingie. Is this Toad's ancestor?
Dovo-A cross between a lobster and a ghost. Wierd.

Bosses
1.Katsini-Purple guy wearing a top hat and tailcoat. Might be a magician.
2.Galrog-Big grey horned cyclops. Kind of a softie.
3.Harley Q-Supposedly female jester-like thing.
4.Sam Spook-Scarcrow with a green pumpkin for a head.
5.Sven-Hairy dwarf guy. Complete with a viking helmet and boxing gloves.
6.Parrotor-Looks like a bird with crossed eyes and a lizard's tail.
7.Monsuier Boo-A genering sheet ghost with a beret on his head.
8.Aqualea-Pink-tailed, blue-haired mermaid. Kind of fiesty.
9.Razor-He looks just like the Zoras from the old Zelda games. His name is an anagram of 'Zora'.
10.Tad Rock-A frog dressing 80's punk attire. I like him.
11.Lizardon-A purple, horned dinosaur. I think he's lame.
12.Thak-A big, blue caveman-type guy. Not too bright.
13.Sarissa-A sickeningly cute little girl dressed like a witch. Kind of a femenist.
14.Mangylox-Not sure what the heck he's supposed to be, but he's got orange hair all over him.
15.Dedar-Little green elf man in a red suit.
16.Carlton-Black knight. Pretty cool-looking to me.
17.Harry H-Rabbit in a tuxedo. Resemble the rabbit from 'Alice in Wonderland'.
Title: Re: The Toad Game
Post by: DeadAwake on September 21, 2006, 08:39:05 AM: If there's going to be an evil Toad, I gotta admit I like the idea of having a poison symbol on his cap. Maybe even the polka dots could be rounded skulls instead.
Title: Re: The Toad Game
Post by: The Chef on September 21, 2006, 04:08:49 PM: After posting that list of bad guys from Wario's Woods, does anyone have any ideas as to what roles they'd play in this new game? Should any of them be good guys? If they're enemies, how would they fight? Please share.
Title: Re: The Toad Game
Post by: CrossEyed7 on September 21, 2006, 04:28:58 PM: While I doubt Nintendo would release a $35-$50 Toad game, I think there's definitely potential for "Toad's Adventure" as a new game on the Virtual Console.
Title: Re: The Toad Game
Post by: jairoeye on September 22, 2006, 02:24:03 PM: it be pretty cheap Luigi is better
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Title: Re: The Toad Game
Post by: The Chef on September 22, 2006, 03:19:29 PM: WTD!?

Anyway, the Toad game I envisioned was an arcade-style puzzler, because we don't have enough of those(Mvs.DK wasn't enough), I initially thought it should be made for the GBA. But since the idea of the Virtual Console was brought up, maybe that's a good place for it.

PS: I'm still open for suggestions on the characters from before.
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Post by: GammaGal on September 24, 2006, 11:19:15 AM: Huh ... interesting concept. When I first saw the board, I was sorta like, 'Aw, naw ... as if ...' But as I thought about it, a Toad game could kick arse-a-roony. Besides, who knows? It could pave the way for platformer-esc games centered around other mario-side-characters.

Like, say ... a Waluigi game? *evil cackle* Mwahaha, oh ... one day, one day ...

Eh-uhm ... anywho! ^.^; I acctually don't have too many ideas for it, but I gotta say, the ideas you guys have thrown out there are pretty darned good! Keep it up!
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Post by: NES641-up on October 23, 2006, 04:33:21 PM: I think the evil toad sould be all black, with skulls on his head, and a evil magic wand to cast spells
Title: Re: The Toad Game
Post by: Toad on October 23, 2006, 05:23:44 PM: Quote from: NES641-up on October 23, 2006, 04:33:21 PM
I think the evil toad sould be all black, with skulls on his head, and a evil magic wand to cast spells

There we go. Toad's game should be a magic/puzzle game. I love the thought of Toad becoming a mage, then having to help defend the Mushroom Kingdom with his newfound magical abilities.

"I am Toad, magic retainer of the Mushroom Kingdom!"
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Post by: Sqrt2 on October 24, 2006, 02:40:04 AM: Sounds suspiciously like Final Fantasy only with toad. Then again, maybe that's not such a bad idea...
Title: Re: The Toad Game
Post by: The Chef on October 24, 2006, 02:15:30 PM: Well, I once had this idea for a Zelda rip-off starring Toad.
Title: Re: The Toad Game
Post by: NintendoExpert89 on October 24, 2006, 09:51:40 PM: A game I'm making for SMBHQ will be called "Toad's Forest". It's basically a platformer starring Toad, and with a universal time limit. The story revolves around Toad overhearing Bowser's plans to do a surprise attack on the Mushroom Kingdom, and decides to go and alert the Mario brothers. He finds out Bowser's army has already started to the kingdom, and realizes in order to get there in time he must take a short-cut through Fungus Forest.

For now I'm still planning out the general gameplay and controls.
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Post by: Red Paratroopa on October 27, 2006, 06:16:59 PM: Watoad would be the final boss.
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Post by: Toad on October 29, 2006, 08:01:44 PM: Cool! Nice job!

AS for story, I've been thinking alot about how neat it would be for Toad to star in a puzzle heavy RPG. It could go something like this..

Each of the colored generic Retainers (Red, blue, green, yellow, purple) and the three main Toads (that is, Toadette, Toad, and Toadsworth) could each be a retainer over a certain area of the Mushroom World (very much like SMB3). The Retainers know magic that can protect the King of each World, and in turn, the King's use the Wands to protect the people of the Worlds that they rule over.

My thinking is that each Retainer would fit best in the World that matched their color the most..

Grass Land- Green Retainer (Green knows Earth Spells)
Desert Hills- Red Retainer (Red knows Fire)
Water World- Blue Retainer (Blue knows Water)
Giant Land- Mario (Mario doesn't help rule over this area, he has been captured and is being held hostage. Mario would be the equivilant to the Red Mage of Final Fantasy games)
Sky Land- Yellow (Yellow knows Wind)
Ice Land- Purple (Purple knows Ice, which has a slightly different effect from water)
Pipe Maze- Luigi (see Mario's description, and Luigi would be less of a fighter and more of a healing/support character)
Dark Land- (the Princess would be here..)

Now, when you start the game, you only have Toad and Toadette playable. Toad is a very quick little guy that can do a few basic spells to start with, and Toadette is learning how to become a Combiner (a person that can combine spells to make different effects.)

As you play the game and rescue the Retainers, the join the party and teach Toad and Toadette how to use their spells.

When you reach the final World, and you get into the Castle, a very exciting scene occurs in which Bowser is in a wizard's duel with.. *pause for dramatic effect* ..Wart! Yes, Wart, the boss from SMB2. Turns out in my game, Bowser was framed, and so you have to deal with Wart before the game ends.

*looks back over paragraphs*

Wow, I didn't mean to type that much. I guess I got carried away a little bit, huh? :)

Anyway, any thoughts?
Title: Re: The Toad Game
Post by: zeldario on December 21, 2006, 07:35:59 AM: it should be a game that parodys all nintendo games during different levels
Title: Re: The Toad Game
Post by: The Chef on December 21, 2006, 06:43:15 PM: Wai Wai World: The Nintendo Edition? Nah.
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Post by: Toad on December 22, 2006, 10:02:44 PM: Here's a neat idea: putting Mario characters into other games..

Secret of Mana, for example, becomes Secret of Mario (Mario replaces the Boy, Peach the Girl, Toad the Sprite child).

The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time becomes Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Toad (Luigi replaces Link, Daizy[the Z is not a typo] replaces Zelda.. er.. maybe this one isn't such a hot idea)

Tetris becomes Toadtris. The blocks all retain their basic shapes, the parts of the blocks are mushrooms of a similar color (all red for the Z shaped block, all blue for the long block, etc..)

Weird.. I did have more ideas, but alas cannot think of any more right now. :/
Title: Re: The Toad Game
Post by: The Chef on December 23, 2006, 03:40:02 PM: I'm not sure if this is the topic for ideas like that, but I think that Toad could easily star in a Zelda-type game (which I think I already posted here) which would probably bear more similarities to Adventures of LoLo.
Title: Re: The Toad Game
Post by: Harpie on December 23, 2006, 05:38:34 PM: NO!