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Title: Gods... (SPM Spoilers)
Post by: Nintendoobsessed on April 26, 2007, 02:54:03 PM
In Super Paper Mario, two GODS are shown. This is almost on the verge of Marios religon. This is the sort of thing I wouldn't expect the creators to reveal...
Title: Re: Gods... (Spoilers)
Post by: Chris on April 26, 2007, 03:34:57 PM
Well, keep in mind, these are the god figures of the Flipside dimension, not the Mushroom Kingdom. They could be entirely different there.
Title: Re: Gods... (Spoilers)
Post by: MaxVance on April 26, 2007, 03:40:42 PM
Gods? Could you be more specific?
Title: Re: Gods... (Spoilers)
Post by: BP on April 26, 2007, 04:46:37 PM
1. No, Chris, each of the worlds in SPM seems to be its own dimension, and as a matter of fact Flipside and Flopside are BETWEEN dimensions. It would appear every dead dude from any dimension goes to The Underwhere when dead as a Shayde but can request permission to go to The Overthere from Queen Jaydes to become a Nimbi. This is just my inference though, since it IS said that you can go to The Overthere when your game is over, but only Nimbis are shown to exist there.
2. No they are not Gods. They are as close to Gods as King Sammer or Mayor Watchitt--they only oversee their realms as rulers.
3. Nobody knows about The Underwhere or The Overthere until their games end. Therefore they cannot worship Grambi or Jaydes.
4. Don't whine at me for spoiling. "(Spoilers)" is written in the topic's title.
Title: Re: Gods... (Spoilers)
Post by: The Chef on April 26, 2007, 05:10:48 PM
I've always assumed that Mario's religion centers around the Stars, since that's what the Mushroom Kingdom seems to hold in high regard.
Title: Re: Gods... (Spoilers)
Post by: PaperLuigi on April 26, 2007, 05:22:03 PM
Mario............has a religion? *shrudders at the thought*
Title: Re: Gods... (Spoilers)
Post by: The Chef on April 26, 2007, 06:09:09 PM
Does this have anything to do with your Christian beliefs?
Title: Re: Gods... (SPM Spoilers)
Post by: PaperLuigi on April 26, 2007, 06:12:47 PM
Umm.........no. I just thought it was weird the Mario games have a religion.
Title: Re: Gods... (SPM Spoilers)
Post by: Metric on April 26, 2007, 08:10:19 PM

Mario is Pastafarian. Think people.

Also, what two god are you talking about? I did not see any gods.
Title: Re: Gods... (SPM Spoilers)
Post by: Glorb on April 27, 2007, 02:10:11 PM
Heh, Pastafarian. But I've always assumed Mario was a new-age hippie. And if you're expecting a "mushroom/drugs" joke, then you're sadly mistaken. Resident Evil's green herbs/marijuana is way funnier.
Title: Re: Gods... (SPM Spoilers)
Post by: Nintendoobsessed on April 27, 2007, 02:21:27 PM
Also, what two gods are you talking about?






                         Queen Jaydes and Grambi
Title: Re: Gods... (SPM Spoilers)
Post by: The Blue Toad on April 27, 2007, 08:13:11 PM
I found the "Overthere" and the "Underwhere" to be very humorous allusions, actaully.  Though being a strong Christian, I, in no way, found them insulting.  The moment I read "The Underwhere" I instantly thought that it was simply a clever innuendo poking fun at ancient Greek beliefs. 
"Jaydes" is obviously a parody to "Hades", and "Grambi" was clearly a clever portrayal of.... Bam..bi...?     
Title: Re: Gods... (SPM Spoilers)
Post by: BP on April 27, 2007, 08:35:46 PM
I felt the same. I was constantly laughing at the references to Greek Mythology (The River Twygz = clever play on The River Styx) and consistent use of "my game ended" to mean "I died." Jaydes is nothing like Satan, either... notice how she helps you in your quest, and believes honesty is the best policy (a D-Man complained about that). Grambi is nothing like God. He is not all-powerful, for example. It's conceivable that angels speak in olde English though... especially the ones who died when olde English was not yet olde.
Title: Re: Gods... (SPM Spoilers)
Post by: Boo Dudley on April 27, 2007, 09:31:16 PM
Jayde is supposed to be Hades (Yes, its the name of the place and s its god), Gram-bi is supposed to be Zeus. I'm personally surprised that no mentioned bonechill. his description states that he may have been related to gram-bi and whatsherface (I can't remember when all the names sound too alike.) escapes from underwhere to take on the throne. I'm not even religious, but even I figured that one out
Title: Re: Gods... (SPM Spoilers)
Post by: ShadowBrain on April 29, 2007, 11:33:43 AM
Yeah, that whole seventh chapter was... oddly awesome, in a Greek mythology sense (whatever everyone above me said). Gods? Maybe, but nobody ever uses the word "god" or "pray". Hey, cheer up, they've got a dang church in part of Pokemon Diamond and Pearl.

Mario has no religion, unless you think stars falls under scientology.
Title: Re: Gods... (SPM Spoilers)
Post by: Kojinka on May 20, 2007, 01:47:45 AM
I don't think the Mushroom World has a "religion" per say, but noticing their occasional mention of star spirits, it's safe to assume that the people of the Mushroom World worship the stars as spiritual guardians.  And it should come as little to no surprise, considering starmen grant temporary invincibility to those that touch them.
I close this by saying that most of the inhabitants of the Mushroom Kingdom are probably spiritual, but not religious.
Title: Re: Gods... (SPM Spoilers)
Post by: Glorb on May 21, 2007, 07:59:45 AM
Well, how do you explain mushrooms causing sudden growth, or green ones giving someone an "extra life"? I mean, eating mushrooms to gain an extra shot at reincarnation seems rather religious to me, in a "cult" kind of way.
Title: Re: Gods... (SPM Spoilers)
Post by: Kojinka on May 21, 2007, 08:53:46 AM
But it's the MUSHROOM Kingdom.  The land is bound to be native to many different mushroom species with different special properties; healing (super mushrooms in the RPGs), growth (super mushrooms in the classic 2D platformer), revival (green mushrooms, better known as 1-ups, in the platformers and some RPGs, and health shrooms[?] in the Paper Mario games), etc.  Revival is not necessarily the same as reincarnation.  In SPM dieing is referred to as Game Over.
Title: Re: Gods... (SPM Spoilers)
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on May 21, 2007, 06:39:35 PM
Funny how throughout the whole game, denizens of the many worlds say "game end" or something like that yet when you face Dimentio in the final battle, he actually says Count Bleck is "dying", not "his game is ending".

I do so love the music in The Overthere. it's very calming for some reason.
Title: Re: Gods... (SPM Spoilers)
Post by: PaperMario on May 22, 2007, 06:54:20 PM
Oh please, it's not like there's a part in the game where Mario prays or anything.
Title: Re: Gods... (SPM Spoilers)
Post by: ShadowBrain on May 22, 2007, 10:26:29 PM
^ But when he invokes the power of the Star Spirits in Paper Mario, he does a praying pose.