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Video Games => Mario Chat => Topic started by: volbound1700 on April 26, 2007, 10:14:24 PM
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Here is my idea everyone tell me what you think...
4-player adventure game that is semi 3d (you can move a little bit around like Double Dragon or TMNT 2 and the characters are in 3d but still mostly 2d) To make it totally 3d would be too advance and take up too much.
4 starting characters: Mario, Luigi, Yoshi, Toad.
1st World: Grassland
Several levels... similar to opening world in SMB3 and SMW
Assortment of baddies: Piranha, Koopa Troopers, Gombas, etc.
Bosses: Boom Boom (mini), Wario and Waluigi (final)
2nd World: Dk Jungle
Baddies: Kremlings and DK enemies
Bosses: Donkey Kong (mini), Bird from DKC, King K Rool (final)
Unlockable heroes: DK after beating him, Diddy Kong (DK joins your side after thinking you are enemy at first like Knuckles in Sonic3). Diddy Kong after rescue... can now trade out and be the Kongs
3rd World: Desert World
Baddies: Koopa Trooper, Gombas, Shy Guys, Cactus, Buzzy Beatles, Snakes, Chain Chops
Bosses: Boo House (mini), Sun stage (mini), 3 headed snake from SMB2 (final)
4th World: Water World
Baddies: Cheep Cheep, Blooper, other sea animals plus Koopa Troopers and Gombas on land.
Bosses: Big Bertha (mini), Giant Blooper (mini), First Three Koopa Kids from SMB3 as bosses
5th World: Sky World
Baddies: Enemies from sky in SMB3, flyguy and the guy on black cap from SMB2, Birdos
Bosses: Mouser (mini), Crab (mini), Wart (final)
Rescue: You rescue Daisy from Wart
6th World: Kirby's Dreamland
Baddies: Assortment of enemies from Kirby
Bosses: Wippy Willow (mini), Metaknight (mini), King DeeDee (mini), Nightmare (final)
Unlockable: Kirby (upon entering world scene where Kirby comes to join you if you rescue world... can swap out from Kirby then if you want or reject him)
7th World: Ice World
Baddies: Classic Mario Bros enemies
Bosses: Crab from SMB2 (mini), King Boo (mini), remaining 4 Koopa Kids (final)
8th World: Pipe World
Baddies: a large assortment of Piranhas from all the mario games, Wigglers
Bosses: Giant Piranha (mini), Wario and Waluigi returned (mini), first run in with Bowser
9th World: Bowser Land
Baddies: Creative, large army of Koopas with Hammer bros, tanks, ships, etc.
Bosses: Wario and Waluigi in a car (mini), Bowser Jr (mini), 7 Bowser Kids Combined (mini), Final Battle with Bowser with Bowser Jr. as ally (final)
Rescue: Peach and win game
This is my idea of the awesome Mario Brothers game encompassing a lot of games. I put Kirby in because I feel like he could fit in with the Mario Universe. I also want to see a game with all the enemies. Make maps like on SMB3 that you navigate and put cities with Toad race and Kings in all lands but DK Jungle, Dreamland, Pipe World and Bowser land. Any comments or advice?
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You should've just put this in the New Mario VIdeo Game Ideas thread.
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This sounds like a remix of every other Mario game ever.
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This sounds like a remix of every other Mario game ever.
Seconded.
I don't mean to be rude, but it doesn't really sound too "advanced" that it can't be put into 3D.
Perhaps you should focus more on improving the Mario formula to make a truely innovative Mario experience, rather than just focus on level themes, bosses and enemies. Right now, it sounds like a generic Mario platformer.
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Honestly, I do not like these ideas at all, for pretty much the same reason Glorb stated. They're not fresh ideas. For the longest time, Nintendo has been trying (note: TRYING) to innovate, not releasing the same thing over and over again with one or two new things here and there.
Also, Kirby is NOT a part of the Mario universe. And he never will be.
Please don't tell us this was the only reason you decided to join, to tell us your idea of a game. Even if they were good ideas, neither Deezer nor any of the other TMK staff works for Nintendo, they cannot make your ideas a reality.
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I dunno, didn't that type of game die with the 16-bit era. Rehashing isn't always a good thing either.
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Dang, didn't expect this kind of negativity. I just believe that the SMB for NES and SMW were better then Sunshine or Luigi's Mansion or that stuff and everyone I know agrees. Sunshine was way to childish and the creatures in it look dumb.
My game is new in tought because you know have 4-player (never done before in any of SMB adventure games)
You have semi 3-d (It would take forever to make it full 3d)
You have characters never before in Mario Adventure games (Wario, King K Rool, Waluigi, DK, Kirby, etc.)
Old Characters brought back with new technology. Imagine Wart or Mouser battle in 3-D. Koopa Kids in 3-d.
There is so much you can do now with the classics with new technology and Nintendo doesn't do it. That is the fresh idea making a mario game at the level that it has never been made before.
The original idea actually game to me when I was playing Super Smash Bros and I thought why not just make an adventure game where you pick heroes and you go and beat all the Villians from past nintendo games.
Plus Super Mario Galaxy is the new revolutionary idea you wanted (although I think it is SMB64 all over again)... some people want to just see a SMB or SMB3 in 3d.
Plus new Super Mario Bros is just a rehash of those old ideas (too bad I never could play it because I don't have DS).
Sorry If you don't agree with my ideas.
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"The original idea actually game to me when I was playing Super Smash Bros and I thought why not just make an adventure game where you pick heroes and you go and beat all the Villians from past nintendo games."
I think you already got your wish.
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Dang, didn't expect this kind of negativity. I just believe that the SMB for NES and SMW were better then Sunshine or Luigi's Mansion or that stuff and everyone I know agrees. Sunshine was way to childish and the creatures in it look dumb.
Mario Sunshine was the first Mario Platform game I ever played, so it holds a special place in my heart.
Plus, you didn't really mention that anywhere in your first post.
My game is new in tought because you know have 4-player (never done before in any of SMB adventure games)
But does that actually add to the experience? Does it change maps to encourage teamwork? Or is it just a gimmick to attract people into buying the game?
You have semi 3-d (It would take forever to make it full 3d)
Ok, sure, that's new, but why step back when Nintendo's newest console is capable of so much more? I don't really like the thoguht of downgrading. Also, good things take time to complete. The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess took two years to finish, and the end result was magnificent. Plus, how do you know it could take forever? The game sounds very simplistic, it probably wouldn't take up too much space. 8.5 gigabytes on a disc is a lot more storage than you may think it is.
You have characters never before in Mario Adventure games (Wario, King K Rool, Waluigi, DK, Kirby, etc.)
I don't think non-Mario characters belong in the Mario universe
Old Characters brought back with new technology. Imagine Wart or Mouser battle in 3-D. Koopa Kids in 3-d.
To your credit, I would like to see Nintendo bring back the Koopalings in 3-D. I don't know why Nintendo hasn't done so yet.
There is so much you can do now with the classics with new technology and Nintendo doesn't do it. That is the fresh idea making a mario game at the level that it has never been made before.
So, you're saying the "fresh" idea is to take old Mario ideas and bring them into the new age? That's not exactly "fresh". Nintendo already tried that in NSMB (which I thought was pretty good). A fresh idea would be to make a Zelda-esqe Mario platormer with puzzle elements requiring use of devices and items. Now, Nintendo would probably never do that (and I don't want them to), but it brings a lot more to the Mario franchise than just "oh, let's just re-hash the level themes and bring back a lot of old characters"
Plus new Super Mario Bros is just a rehash of those old ideas (too bad I never could play it because I don't have DS).
But it features everything you want your Dream Mario game to be; in fact, it has nearly all the level themes you described, large maps that connect the levels, and old characters brought back (spiny, anyone? Buzzy Beetle? Monty Mole?)
Sorry If you don't agree with my ideas.
You don't have to be sorry; people have different opinions. That's the whole point of forums: the free and friendly exchange of opinions and arguements. Perhaps you should take people's critism to heart and think up of new ideas for actual gameplay, and not just characters you could possibly bring back. To your credit, Nintendo should bring back some of the older characters like Wart and the Koopalings. However, your game just sounds like a generic Mario game. Don't give up, though: like I said, take constructive critism to heart. For example, you could write about a Mario real-time stratedgy game, where you command the forces of either the Mushroom or the Koopa kingdom in an epic war, with many stats to customize and many battles to be fought. Or perhaps a Mario platform game where the object is to beat a Mario character in a race to the finish line, as long as you just supply more details than just "here's the bosses fight, enemies to battle and places to go. Oh, and there's a 4-player mode, too".
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I want it to be like SMB 3 or SMW in a way as well... if they had the technology then it could be fully 3d like SMB64 but I did not like 64 as well as the old SMBs. I grew up playing SMB1, 2, 3...
Also as for Mouser and most the old guys they were in the Super Mario Bros Supershow as allies of Bowser (I recently discovered the series on U Tube they are pretty entertaining.)
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I not saying SMB64 was a bad game... I just thought SMB3 was better. I never understood why they dumbed a lot of characters like the 7 koopa kids from the earlier series.
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a mario 64 for wii
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You can buy it for the Virtual Console.
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Or, you know, you could play Super Mario Galaxy (what's the deal with this guy?).
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a mario 64 for wii
You mean, Mario Galaxy?
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I know what you mean but I actually mean The 64 plot on wii.
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Nobody needs that, because the N64 game has the same plot as all the old Mario games. Peach gets captured by Bowser, blah blah blah, and you have to save her, blah blah blah.
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I know what you mean but I actually mean The 64 plot on wii.
Yes. You can get that by buying SM64 on the VC.
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As I stated earlier, this game would be unique. When have you had such a long list of characters and since when has any Mario Adventure game allowed a 4 player coop?
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Since when has any one needed it?
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Fact is everyone I know though Sunshine was terrible and that Mario games had become babyish. A lot of people consider the original NES ones to be the best. Why? Because they took you to many different worlds and had many creative ideas. Galaxy has brought some of that back but people still criticize the storyline as childish at times. A lot of people also liked playing the 2 player modes on SMB 3, especially that POW stage.
With todays technology and the camera angles, you could make a game fit multiple players. You could created a 3D game but have it where the players do not have to wander off and force the camera to move. (Maybe make it one stage/area at a time).
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So, did they even play the game?
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Why is what non-Mario fans think important?
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Why is what non-Mario fans think important?
They are Mario fans. In case you haven't noticed about 60-70% of Mario fans jumped ship about the time of Gamecube. Look at the sells to prove it
SMB 3 sold about 30 million copies
Sunshine had about 1-2 million copies
That is a large jump off of the fanbase. Clearly the older games had something that the newer games haven't had. (I noticed Galaxy is addressing many of these problems. Galaxy at times reminds me of the old Mario Brothers. It is the best 3D Mario game so far... I really didn't think 64 was bad at all either but a large group jumped ship at that time as well).
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When I have people come over now, a lot of times they would rather play the old NES originals or Super Mario World rather then the new Mario games. Although, I have gotten some people interested in Galaxy and they said it kind of reminded them of the old games. (I had to beg them to get through the start though with the bunny chasing scene, etc. It is baby stuff like that that turns people off to the newer Mario Games).
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And so, you're going to make a good game that reminds people of the old ones by making it "entirely different" from all of them?
Witness! Your testimony is riddled with holes!
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They just need to bring back Mario's SMB3 look. I'd also like to see so,e vegetables. I just don't want them to make a whole game about it.
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And so, you're going to make a good game that reminds people of the old ones by making it "entirely different" from all of them?
Witness! Your testimony is riddled with holes!
How would my idea be totally different? It brings back a lot of the old school characters and brings back the old go from Grass World to Desert World to Giant World to Ice World etc.
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Did you ever play Super Mario Galaxy, by any chance?
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yes I own it and have gotton far
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He wasn't talking to you.
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How would my idea be totally different? It brings back a lot of the old school characters and brings back the old go from Grass World to Desert World to Giant World to Ice World etc.
So that means it is a 3D version of SMB3.
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SM64 had those levels too.
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Not Ice World, though. I made a SMB3 "hack" of SM64.
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Cool, Cool Mountain wasn't an Ice level?
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Right, but it was more snowy. I do recall the one place in the mirror room (I forget the name).
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Right, but it was more snowy. I do recall the one place in the mirror room (I forget the name).
Snowman's Land :)
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Did you ever play Super Mario Galaxy, by any chance?
Yes, I got 30 something stars so far and beaten Bowser 2x and Bowser Jr.
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Apparently what I said is over all of your heads. In Mario 64 you did not travel to worlds you had paintings or whatever and you didn't have a world with 8-13 levels of Ice or desert, etc. Each one bringing in new techniques like one with slick ice, one with ice that melt and plants came after you, etc.
None of you were old enough to remember the old school games... whatever. I am done arguing with you morons. People like you are why Playstation 2 kicked Nintendo's butt the last 5 years. Like I said, the old Mario games had something the new ones up until Galaxy haven't had. The numbers of sales back up what I said.
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Or, you know, you could play Super Mario Galaxy (what's the deal with this guy?).
Chupperson Weird flamed me far before I said anything about me. I should just be an ahole like him and follow him around challenging all his posts.
BTW to all the critics I don't understand their logic about not being Original because Galaxy, 64, etc. use all the same ideas as Mario games before them. Same enemies, same jumping to avoid pits, using blocks to access items - paths, etc., battling in multitude of environments, save Princess from Bowser.
To be honest, nothing is original today.
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You assume too much.
At any rate, since SM64 was the first 3D platformer, I think it did alright for itself. Back when they didn't store games on DVDs, it wasn't feasible to program 50+ individual levels in 3D where you have, you know, that whole extra dimension of depth.
What's the deal? You already have SMB3, so having SMB3 exactly translated into 3D is pretty pointless. Why would you be so small-minded as to want a game that exactly mimics ones that are made in a completely different manner?
P.S. Triple post?
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You assume too much.
At any rate, since SM64 was the first 3D platformer, I think it did alright for itself. Back when they didn't store games on DVDs, it wasn't feasible to program 50+ individual levels in 3D where you have, you know, that whole extra dimension of depth.
What's the deal? You already have SMB3, so having SMB3 exactly translated into 3D is pretty pointless. Why would you be so small-minded as to want a game that exactly mimics ones that are made in a completely different manner?
P.S. Triple post?
I am not being small-minded... you are by attacking all my threads. What is so wrong with a coop Mario game idea? I brought this up everywhere else and people loved the idea. In fact this is only place I have heard it flamed so much, maybe that is while I am a little hostile toward everyone and I am sorry.
Sorry about triple post, I don't get on here much so want to get as much in as possible.
Instead of flaming it, how about you point out some good points and then make your own idea out of mine. IMO Mario games should always be Mario games. Galaxy lives up to this, classic go save princess. Only problem I have with Galaxy is that I cannot have a second person tag along as Luigi like the old days. Also where is Yoshi? In a battle so big, it would seem that most the Mario characters would be caught up in it.
Also I have people over to play the sports and party games and would love to see characters like Wario, DK, Waluigi, etc. make appearances in single player adventure games. I use to love the Mario Cartoons and would love to see the Koopalings return (however, I still say keep Bowser Jr., he can have 8 kids).
Plus, I have already beaten SMB 3 numerous times... I want something new like it. Super Mario World and SMB3 where awesome games, I wish we could see more games follow their style. I wanted to try NSMB but don't have DS and don't want to buy it just to play NSMB.
Finally as for coop. I love multiplayer games. In fact, half the time I won't play video games unless there are people with me. I know Galaxy is 2 player but the 2nd player's role is very very limited and is not the same as if they had a whole character to use. I think a 4 player Mario adventure game would be novel and would be an excellent idea. However, I think it should not be a mainstream mario game. I think it should follow a hit like Galaxy. You can have more then one Mario games on a system (see NES).
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I don't flame. I never flame. However, I did not think your idea had any good points. Also, older games didn't need all the superfluous characters, so why would new games?
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I don't flame. I never flame. However, I did not think your idea had any good points. Also, older games didn't need all the superfluous characters, so why would new games?
You are in your exact sentence. "I did not think your idea had any good points." Your idea is dumb, etc. That is basically what a flamer/troll does. However, your points are noted. We can agree to disagree. However, tell me. In your opinion what should a new/next Mario game be?
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I'll let Nintendo decide that.
I didn't insult you in any way. That was not a flame.
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You are in your exact sentence. "I did not think your idea had any good points." Your idea is dumb, etc. That is basically what a flamer/troll does. However, your points are noted. We can agree to disagree.
NO. As I previously stated to you (you seem to be ignoring my posts now) is that we don't flame your posts. Saying we don't like your ideas is not (I repeat, NOT) a flame. If we were to tell you your ideas "sucked" and added unneeded negative comments about your mother, THEN would we be flaming you.
There IS a difference between flaming and disagreeing. Please stop obliterating the line between the two.
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That isn't flaming, it's constructive criticism. Just because he says your idea is bad (because it's just Super Mario Bros. 3 in 3D) doesn't mean he was flaming you. He just doesn't like your idea for a new Mario game. What's wrong with single player mode? Honestly, did you play Galaxy just so you could persuade your friends into pointing at the screen and "helping" you? Did you never play Super Mario 64?
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I played Super Mario 64 (and plan to get it off Wii virtual console, already got the points card to get it and Ocarina of Time - wish they had Goldeneye) and I love it, I just like playing coop games. Also IMO, Mario 64 had the best music out of the entire series. Actually I don't have two controllers yet for Galaxy (although I do now)... thing is I am about 300 miles away from my Wii and have been so for last couple of weeks due to exams.
Sorry, this all got carried away. I just don't see the harm in a multiplayer game because it would be unique. However, I don't think it should be a platform Mario, I think it should fall in the shadow (since it is an experiment) of a major Mario. We can have more then one Mario games on a platform (Mario 1-3 and LL on NES for example).
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When I see something I don't like, I DON'T POST THERE. I MOVE ON.
Chupperson, you have to admit you've been pretty negative lately (not that I know you from before then).
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It's nothing new.