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Title: The DS sucks.
Post by: Sunbun on August 21, 2007, 10:58:41 PM
I'm not sure if this should fit in (insert adjective here), but perhaps it should deserve its own topic. Mods, feel free to move it as you wish. Anyway...

Don't get me wrong. I love my phat, silver DS. It is a source of many hours of enjoyment.

Unfortunately, it has become a source of many hours of frustration. Thanks to fast and furious Tetris and Mario Kart playing, my shoulder buttons started wearing out on my phat.

Curiously, I decided to buy a triwing screwdriver and check it out. My first obstacle was a damaged screw. A flathead fixed that. Next, I pulled out the shoulder buttons, spring and all. Then, I put them back in, closed it up, and noticed that the shoulder buttons were tighter and even more unresponsive than ever.

This is where I ask you, the TMK public: how do I restore my DS phat's shoulder buttons? And have any of you suffered DS degradation? Has your rectangular brick suffered from worn-outedness?

Edit: By the way, I've had mine since December 2004 and never in my life have I bought two of a console or handheld.
Title: Re: The DS sucks.
Post by: MaxVance on August 21, 2007, 11:00:22 PM
The shoulder buttons on my old DS wore out after being knocked down many times by my cat. Perhaps you should just get a new DS.
Title: Re: The DS sucks.
Post by: Rao on August 21, 2007, 11:22:54 PM
Does Nintendo sell extra parts? Maybe they have shoulder buttons and springs.
Title: Re: The DS sucks.
Post by: Sunbun on August 22, 2007, 01:04:12 AM
Does Nintendo sell extra parts? Maybe they have shoulder buttons and springs.

It's not the parts that have problems, it's the assembly that's frustrating me. Both the shoulder buttons and springs are in good shape, save for flesh wounds and dirt on the buttons.
Title: Re: The DS sucks.
Post by: ShadowBrain on August 22, 2007, 02:57:27 PM
Does Nintendo sell extra parts? Maybe they have shoulder buttons and springs.
Extra systems tend to make more money. Fiddle if you want (sounds like it's shot either way), but you're probably better off buying a new DS Lite (or a used DS/Lite, if you want to save some cash--and really, who doesn't?).
Title: Re: The DS sucks.
Post by: Robert on August 22, 2007, 05:14:32 PM
I checked Nintendo's site. It doesn't really give help on fixing buttons, though it doesn't hurt to check again.

Is your DS under warranty? Perhaps you could call Nintendo to fix it. If it's not under warranty, then you'll have to pay.

The only other piece of advice I have to give is to maybe wash the dirt on the buttons. Hey, it might work (That is, if it's the bottom of the buttons that are dirty).
Title: Re: The DS sucks.
Post by: Vidgmchtr on August 22, 2007, 06:27:22 PM
Is your DS under warranty? Perhaps you could call Nintendo to fix it. If it's not under warranty, then you'll have to pay.

Usually, warranties expire automatically if the console is opened up. Then again, I'm not sure if that applies to handhelds.

If it's the older model, it's most definitely over a year old, so the warranty must have expired anyway.
Title: Re: The DS sucks.
Post by: Sunbun on August 22, 2007, 07:18:56 PM
I wish my DS was under warranty. It's almost three years old. Would've saved $70 or so.
Title: Re: The DS sucks.
Post by: BP on August 22, 2007, 09:46:28 PM
Replace it. With a Lite. Don't trust Chupperson--my Lite's L and R buttons went nuts of course, but I am me... C'mon, the tip of the stylus is, like, semitransparent.
Title: Re: The DS sucks.
Post by: MaxVance on August 22, 2007, 10:11:06 PM
The DS Lite's brightness is something to behold, too.
Title: Re: The DS sucks.
Post by: Rao on August 22, 2007, 10:25:42 PM
Why a Lite? I think the Phat is superior, but that's just my opinion, and yes, the Lite is good for its brightness.
Title: Re: The DS sucks.
Post by: Lizard Dude on August 22, 2007, 10:36:20 PM
How much Lite have you played? Because I was pretty meh about it until I actually played one, and then I could never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever look at a Phat again. Ever.
Title: Re: The DS sucks.
Post by: Sunbun on August 22, 2007, 11:41:45 PM
I like the Lite and its shiny, sexy surface. The screen's pretty good too.

I doubt I'll get one, though. My family has a "live with it or deal with it yourself" rule or something.
Title: Re: The DS sucks.
Post by: Robert on August 22, 2007, 11:58:58 PM
Why a Lite? I think the Phat is superior, but that's just my opinion, and yes, the Lite is good for its brightness.

Towards the end of my Phat's lifespan (Before I had to replace it due to a failing battery and a broken screen),I noticed that the phat was much more heavy, bulky and uncomfortable to hold then I remember it. I have no such problems with the lite.

I seriously wouldn't recommend buying a lite if you already have a phat in good condition, since the practically the same (in terms of hardware and technology), but the lite is definately better in terms of ergonomics, brightness, and portability (since it's smaller).
Title: Re: The DS sucks.
Post by: Lizard Dude on August 23, 2007, 12:02:31 AM
The Phat's screen is like the N64 analog stick. It seemed cool at the time, but only in hindsight do you realize what an abomination it was.
Title: Re: The DS sucks.
Post by: BP on August 23, 2007, 12:22:20 AM
The DS Lite's brightness is something to behold, too.
Quite. I only thought that anybody would have done the research themselves and assumed Sunbun already knew about the brighter screens, the welcome size reduction (GBA carts aren't so attractive in it, I must say, but it doesn't often bother me), better stylus (not only is the tiop semitransparent but I find it hard to go back to the old, tiny stylus. I've said it before, and recently--my hands are not on the small side at all.), and other stuff. Lastly, I personally prefer the softer buttons. Just my opinion.
More durable, you say the Phat is? Simple... take good care of the Lite! Even though my Lite's L and R are disagreeable... that's not my fault. Really. I've taken good care of it and its condition isn't bad at all. ...Except for those buttons.
Title: Re: The DS sucks.
Post by: Chupperson Weird on August 24, 2007, 06:22:07 PM
Size reduction is most unwelcome. Some people in the world have large hands.
Also, LD complaining about the phat screens is unjustified, because not all of them have the problems his had.
Title: Re: The DS sucks.
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on August 24, 2007, 06:44:19 PM
I have a Lite and a Phat. I prefer my Phat because it's much more comfortable. Not to mention it's buttons don't feel extremely stiff.
Title: Re: The DS sucks.
Post by: bobman37 on August 24, 2007, 09:24:45 PM
Size reduction is most unwelcome. Some people in the world have large hands.
I have giant hands. I think I'm the only person ever that didn't like how Microsoft completely ditched the older controller for the Controller S.
Title: Re: The DS sucks.
Post by: Chupperson Weird on August 24, 2007, 10:10:48 PM
Original Xbox controller was pretty much ridiculously huge, though. Like, so that most people couldn't get their hands around it.
Title: Re: The DS sucks.
Post by: Vidgmchtr on August 24, 2007, 10:55:18 PM
My normal DS (No, I will not call it a "phat") has no problems. The backlight is fine (though in very bright sunny areas, useless), all the buttons function the way they're supposed to. The only small thing is that it has scratches on the top of it, most likely due to me hitting a piano with the side of my pants that had the DS in its pocket.
Title: Re: The DS sucks.
Post by: BP on August 24, 2007, 11:44:23 PM
Size reduction is most unwelcome. Some people in the world have large hands.
Fwahahahahaa...
This argument is invalid. The buttons on the DS are the same distance from the edge (or very, VERY slightly different, if you look at it another way) of it as on the DS Lite. The buttons are of identical size as well. If anything, large hands are more annoyed by the DS than the DS Lite for its needle-like stylus. I can't very well wrap my hands tightly around either model unless I hold them up to eye level, at which point it still hardly feels any different aside from that ridge versus smoothness.
Title: Re: The DS sucks.
Post by: Chupperson Weird on August 25, 2007, 01:10:07 AM
Invalid my foot.
Title: Re: The DS sucks.
Post by: Bigluigifan1.0 on August 25, 2007, 04:27:52 AM
My DS is probably ready to "retire". Somehow, mine ended up getting misplaced, getting scratches on the top and one broken hinge. It makes a weird clicking noise when I open it and close it. I just don't like using it anymore, but I have seen an ad for a black and red DS Lite that comes with Brain Age 2 for about the same price I got my normal DS with SM64DS, so I might be getting a new one anyway.
Title: Re: The DS sucks.
Post by: PaperLuigi on August 25, 2007, 07:22:33 AM
Mine's hanging in there, but the future for my DS phat looks bleak. A year ago, I threw it out of *ahem* frustration onto the floor, and the left hinge broke off. The two screens are still attached by the right hinge, so I have to be extra careful not to break it, lest I face losing my DS altogether.
Title: Re: The DS sucks.
Post by: Rao on August 25, 2007, 03:10:02 PM
Mine makes a clicking noise when you open and close it, I think that's normal.
Title: Re: The DS sucks.
Post by: Bigluigifan1.0 on August 25, 2007, 03:44:48 PM
I doubt it's anything like mine. I could pretty much tell that it was caused by the damage because I had never heard it like that before. Plus it's a lot more irritating than any noise the DS made before that.
Title: Re: The DS sucks.
Post by: Lizard Dude on August 25, 2007, 05:56:08 PM
Size reduction is most unwelcome. Some people in the world have large hands.
Also, LD complaining about the phat screens is unjustified, because not all of them have the problems his had.
Mine didn't have a problem. Are you talking about that some screens have more of a shimmery coating? I experienced both styles of screen because my original DS, which I sent to Nintendo after a few weeks because of headphone jack issues, had the unshimmery screen. The replacement they sent back had the shimmery screen.

While I liked the nonshimmery screen a lot better, by "soot covered" I just mean that they are ridiculously dark compared to PSP and DS Lite screens. Ridiculously.

P.S. Regarding the size argument, I like how Bird responds with valid, explained points and examples (like they teach you in English class!) and Chup just responds with "my foot". Not the way to advance your side.
Title: Re: The DS sucks.
Post by: bobman37 on August 25, 2007, 08:19:41 PM
pretty much ridiculously huge
= my hands

I have a MadCatz original controller because I like the bigger ones so much more.
Title: Re: The DS sucks.
Post by: MaxVance on August 25, 2007, 08:25:24 PM
P.S. Regarding the size argument, I like how Bird responds with valid, explained points and examples (like they teach you in English class!) and Chup just responds with "my foot". Not the way to advance your side.
This man speaks the truth.
Title: Re: The DS sucks.
Post by: Mr. Melee on August 25, 2007, 08:26:38 PM
I have extremely small hands. It's a pain sometimes, and sometimes it's a joy. :/\