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Video Games => Video Game Chat => Topic started by: nensondubois on September 30, 2008, 04:58:35 PM
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Please Stick this) First up it's Mario Galaxy!
Does anyone here want Mario Galaxy in it's original file format ripped directly from the disc?
You will need winamp and in_cube http://www.hcs64.com/in_cube.html (http://www.hcs64.com/in_cube.html) to play these lovingly files though.
STOP POSTING ILLEGAL FILES
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These files are so lovingly it has to be illegal.
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Actually no, they are perfectly legal.
Mario Kart Wii!
STOP POSTING ILLEGAL FILES
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Please Stick this)
I stopped reading here.
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Keep reading. I posted a sweet pic later in the thread.
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I'll have it be known here and now that nensondubois is not the source of these rips.
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I'm just glad someone used the LOOOOOOOOL pic from VGCats. Seemed like such a great opportunity, I just didn't know for what. Leo's always been a jerk, but he's been more of a jerk recently. I come to VGCats for the videogame parodies, though, not the Leo and Aeris comics (despite the brilliant comic where Leo uses a dead rat as a flail).
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Sweet.
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You will need winamp and in_cube http://www.hcs64.com/in_cube.html (http://www.hcs64.com/in_cube.html) to play these lovingly files though.
Hey, I didn't need Winamp or in_cube!Actually no, they are perfectly legal.
Haha, explain this one.
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Does anyone here want Mario Galaxy in it's original file format ripped directly from the disc?
Yeah, ripping media files from a high profile game and giving them away to others for free is totally legal.
Actually no, they are perfectly legal.
HAhaha ha!
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STOP POSTING ILLEGAL FILES
Too late sucka, I've already loaded my iPod with the SMG soundtrack and there's NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT
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I think MB told him to stop, not that he told you to stop.
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Folks, if you want awesome songs, just go to ocremix.org.
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[wtd]?!? how are they not legal?
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You need to buy either the soundtrack or the game, and it's impossible to tell if anyone really has.
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Am I the only one that hates vgcats?
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No.
Anyway they're not legal because you're freely distributing copyrighted material from a copyrighted game.
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Am I the only one that hates vgcats?
In addition to CW... no.
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I'm not a big fan of VG Cats. Sometimes there are good ones, sometimes they make me want to punch something. Usually nothing in between those two reactions. Except the Super Effective series... that one's looking okay.
Anyway... it seems like this was never a thread about video game soundtracks so much as a "looks I has vidjagem soundtrack donload." Nah, it's not legal. Also, ShadowBrian is right about OC ReMix.
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It that's true then how come VGMs, NSFs, GBS, SPCs, USFs, PSFs, etc are all legal? It's the same thing.
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They aren't legal.
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Well then, how come cracking DRM-protected games and distributing them over BitTorrent is legal? It's the same thing.
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How come killing a hobo behind Wal-Mart is legal? It's the same thing.
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How come assassinating key national leaders and starting a global thermonuclear war is legal? It's the same thing.
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Where did all this stupidity come from on ROMs and SPCs being legal? Reminds me of the old argument that it's legal to have a ROM only if you own a copy of the original game, otherwise you must delete the ROM "within 24 hours". Not sure what the rule is on backups for personal use, I believe that's legal, although I've never had a game die out on me before I was done playing it. 24 hours, I doubt there's an actual rule along those lines, you possess something illegal and it's illegal no matter how long you have it. Unless you're doing "fair use", but people are so quick to squash that idea.
Saw an Eddie Izzard sketch on YouTube:
"I claim India for Britain."
"You can't claim us. We live here! There's five hundred million of us."
"Do you have a flag?"
"We don't need a bloody flag, this is our country you *******!"
"No flag, no country! You can't have one. That's the rules... that... I've just made up!"
I know it's scary that some people know something's illegal yet do it anyway and don't feel guilty about it... but I also feel there should be a line when something's just too much of a hassle to get legally. What do you do about really old games you want to play? Buy the videogame and console off eBay? What if it's an old computer game that won't run on Windows XP or DOSbox? This only seems to be something that companies address once a huge percentage of their customers start complaining, otherwise it's not worth the effort to do something special for the two or three people.
As for Mother 3... if it were sold in America, would it really get enough sales to justify the effort? Sure, every Starmen.net fan will pick it up, but probably not other people. Okami for PS2 sold poorly in... everywhere... and Okami for Wii sold poorly as well (being an inferior port probably didn't help). So sometimes there won't be the incentive to bring an old game back because it just wouldn't justify the effort. Bringing Super Mario Bros. back a million times, however, makes sense because we keep on buying it over and over.
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POSTING ILLEGAL FILES
How come killing a hobo behind Wal-Mart is legal? It's the same thing.
How come assassinating key national leaders and starting a global thermonuclear war is legal? It's the same thing.
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What's this nonsense about Okami Wii being an inferior port?
And while I'm not really against emulation, I do own multiple old computers and game systems because it's more fun to play on the real thing.
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I only played a little bit of the original, but I can attest that the Wii port of Okami is better.
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Well, although I've never played Okami Wii, what killed all interest for me was hearing that the credits sequence was cut out. Supposedly because the "Reset" song was copyrighted or whatever. Another theory was that they just couldn't show the Clover logo, and because the credits sequence is prerendered, they decided to ditch it instead of trying to create a new one or maybe fading out before the logo shows up.
But come on, cutting out the ENTIRE credits sequence? As an article pointed out (http://www.joystiq.com/2008/05/01/clover-staff-credits-cut-from-okami-wii-original-director-shoc/), that means the names of everyone who worked on the original game... that's gone. Plus, I thought the credits were one of the best parts of the game; a satisfying reward for all your hard work.
I guess someone who's never played the original would think the short ending was all there was. But man, they don't know what they're missing... unless they look it up on YouTube.
Other Okami Wii complaints I usually hear include shape recognition being more difficult (I know there's a button to force drawing a straight line, but I know I have a very shaky hand, and crossing a name off a list on PS2 was hard enough), waggle controls not working well (that I can live with because I don't use the dodging feature much)... and on the outside, all the hullabaloo about the IGN watermark on the Okami Wii cover art.
I almost love all the attention the IGN watermark got, though. First, it's hilarious that it happened, although someone probably got fired for it. And then the IGN watermark appeared AGAIN on one of those Okami Wii strategy guides (http://www.joystiq.com/2008/04/28/ign-watermark-on-okami-wii-strategy-guide-cover/). In a slightly different place, even. Capcom really pulled through and offered alternate cover art, including a fixed version of the original cover. But it took a while to ship out the covers. And then they still couldn't ship the covers on time. Eventually they figured "we made customers wait so long for these things... what the hey, we'll send every customer ALL THREE COVERS" (http://kotaku.com/5041163/ok-now-your-okami-wii-covers-are-shipping).
I believe for the most part that Okami Wii would control well and still be as beautiful as before, maybe more so. But it sounds like there was a lack of polish on this port. On the other hand, Ready at Dawn had to remake a lot of stuff from scratch, and yeah, they probably had to make tough decisions because they couldn't do everything exactly right as before. I still think cutting out the credits was ridiculous though.
...I really should buy Okami Wii one of these days, I'm making it sound like it's 10% of what the PS2 game was when it's more like 99%. Credits might not matter to some people, even though the credits were awesome. And since it's too much of a hassle for me to hook my PS2 up to my honking new HDTV (GameCube games look pretty ugly on that, in my opinion), I'd probably cry if I saw the PS2 version all blurred, so the Wii version would fix that.
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I can understand how credits can really affect how you feel about a game--after all, they're the last thing you see that wrap up everything--but I've never seen the original Okami credits so I can't compare (I probably should look them up like you said, though... I remember someone mentioning the PS2 ones' superiority, but I never really considered YouTube). And yet... I did feel like something was missing when I finished that game...
And I still don't have my new cover(s).
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Wow, I didn't know about them killing the credits, but I did know they took out the Clover logo and everything. Kinda disheartening.
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Another article about Okami Wii having no credits. (http://www.omgnintendo.com/article/77453/original-staff-credits-cut-from-okami-wii/) I guess instead it's replaced by credits for Ready at Dawn. Also includes Ready at Dawn's response about the missing credits, saying the Wii version was using up a lot more space than the PS2 version and they ran out of room on the disc. Capcom still claims it was taken out because of that Clover logo and they didn't have the source file. One of the comments points out that the people who originally worked on the game weren't even listed in the Wii manual.
And then yet another article (http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=18469), after posting the English translation of the complete letter that Okami's designer wrote about the missing credits and what it meant to him, the article reminds us of yet another credit-cutting of sorts in another game. When Manhunt 2 was in development, it went from Rockstar Vienna to Rockstar London. Well, none of the names of the people who worked on the game from Rockstar Vienna appeared in the final game, only names from Rockstar London. So the Vienna guys started making the game and contributed a lot... and then they aren't credited in the final game? As a result, there was a blog post (http://www.intelligent-artifice.com/2007/11/rockstar-viennas-missing-credits-for-manhunt-2.html) listing all the names of the Vienna people who worked on the game.
Okay, back to illegal soundtracks and getting in before the lock. There's quite a few "in before the lock" images out there (abbreviated as IBTL), but I think the epic roll maneuver posted by ShadowBrain is the best.
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Whatever. Since you have SPCs and other emulated music file format files on the main site, they are not legal and shouldn't they be removed as well?
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You make an interesting point. "Unless otherwise noted, all of these SPCs were ripped by..."