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Title: Best And Worst in Series Revisit
Post by: Nintendoobsessed on December 07, 2008, 12:47:49 AM
It's time for the Best and Worst in Series Revisit-Instead of a new Poll, we're going to vote on old ones, to see if anything has changed. These are the ten classic Best and Worsts that are being revisited:

1#: Music
2#: Ending
3#: Powerups
4#: Final Boss Battle
5#: Storyline
6#: Attacks
7#: First Boss
8#: Intro
9#: Hub
10#: First Level

You may just want to list (BEST: 1. 2. 3. 4...) for voting. This is over on Jan 1st. Any posts after that date will not be counted. HOWEVER: I may be gone around that time, so it might take awhile for the results to be posted. (Or..maybe not...) It's Time to Decide!

BEST:
1#: Super Mario Galaxy
2#: Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door
3#: Super Mario Bros 3
4#: Super Paper Mario
5#: Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door
6#: Mario and Luigi: Superstar Saga
7#: Super Mario Galaxy
8#: Super Mario Galaxy
9#: Super Mario Galaxy
10#: Super Mario 64

WORST:

1#: Mario Teaches Typing 2
2#: Mario Teaches Typing 2
3#: Super Mario Sunshine
4#: Super Mario Galaxy      (Wayyy too easy)
5#: Mario Teaches Typing 2 
6#: Super Mario Sunshine
7#: Super Mario Sunshine
8#: Mario Teaches Typing 2
9#: Super Paper Mario (Flipside)
10#: Super Mario Sunshine

After playing Mario Teaches Typing 2, I have found a new hate for it.

Nominations are still open:

Mario Sports game (8)
3D Game (1)
Nintendo System {Which system had the best/worst games?} (2)
Mario Spin-Off (1)



BEST AND WORST SUPER LIST:


BEST Winners:
WEEK 1(Attacks): Mario and Luigi: Superstar Saga
WEEK 2(Final Boss Battle): Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door
WEEK 3(Music): Super Mario Galaxy
WEEK 4(Underwater Levels): Super Mario World
WEEK 5(Powerups): Super Mario Bros 3
WEEK 6(Bowser Level):Paper Mario
WEEK 7(First Boss): Super Mario 64
WEEK 8(Yoshi's Role): Yoshi's Island
WEEK 9(Intro): Super Mario Galaxy
WEEK 10(Ending): Paper Mario
WEEK 11(Races): Super Mario 64
WEEK 12(Non-Bowser bosses): Yoshi's Island
WEEK 13(Hub):Super Mario Sunshine
WEEK 14(Hub Dwellers): Super Mario Galaxy
WEEK 15(Title Screen): Super Mario 64
WEEK 16(Box Art): Mario and Luigi: Partners in Time
WEEK 17(Level Success Animation): Super Mario 64
WEEK 18(Ghost Levels): Super Mario World
WEEK 19(Castle/Fortress Music): Super Mario World
WEEK 20(Super Mario Bros. Remixes): Super Mario 64
WEEK 21(First Level): Super Mario 64
WEEK 22(Coins): Super Mario World
WEEK 23(Storyline): Mario and Luigi: Superstar Saga
WEEK 24(Hub Music): Super Mario Galaxy
WEEK 25(Original Super Mario Bros Level): 1-1
WEEK 26(Characters): Mario and Luigi: Superstar Saga
WEEK 27(Bowser): Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door
WEEK 28(Lava/Fire Levels): Super Mario 64
WEEK 29(Sidequests): Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door
WEEK 30(Non-Mario Playable Character): Yoshi
WEEK 31(Villian{s}): Bowser
WEEK 32(2D Game): Super Mario World

WORST Winners:
WEEK 13(Hub): Super Mario Galaxy/Super Paper Mario
WEEK 14(Hub Dwellers): Super Mario Sunshine
WEEK 15(Title Screen): Mario Kart Wii
WEEK 16(Box Art): Mario Kart Wii
WEEK 17(Level Success Animation): Super Mario Bros. 2(American)
WEEK 18(Ghost Levels): Super Mario Sunshine
WEEK 19(Castle/Fortress Music): Super Mario Bros. 3
WEEK 20(Super Mario Bros. Remixes): Super Mario All-Stars
WEEK 21(First Level): Super Mario Sunshine   
WEEK 22(Coins): Super Mario Galaxy
WEEK 23(Storyline): Super Mario Sunshine
WEEK 24(Hub Music): Mario and Luigi: Partners in Time
WEEK 25(Original Super Mario Bros Level): 8-3
WEEK 26(Characters): Super Mario RPG
WEEK 27(Bowser): Super Mario Sunshine
WEEK 28(Lava/Fire Levels): Super Mario Sunshine
WEEK 29(Sidequests): Mario and Luigi: Partners in Time
WEEK 30(Non-Mario Playable Character): Baby Daisy
WEEK 31(Villian{s}): Petey Pirahna
WEEK 32(2D Game): Super Mario Bros 2 (Japan)


Thank you for Voting!
Title: Re: Best And Worst in Series Revisit
Post by: Kojinka on December 07, 2008, 03:01:33 AM
1#: Super Mario Galaxy
2#: Super Paper Mario
3#: Super Mario Bros. 3
4#: The Thousand Year Door
5#: The Thousand Year Door
6#: Superstar Saga
7#: Super Mario 64    King Bob-Omb is the only first boss I can remember right now.
8#: Super Mario Galaxy
9#: The Thousand Year Door  There was a lot to do in Rogueport
10#: Super Mario 64

1#: Mario is Missing  (heck just about any Mario edutainment game)
2#: Mario Teaches Typing 2
3#: Super Mario Sunshine
4#: Super Mario Sunshine (you had to go through the most frustrating fire level in any Mario game to reach the final boss)
5#: Mario Teaches Typing 2
6#: Mario's Early Years    There's no action in it whatsoever
7#: first boss.
8#: Mario Teaches Typing 2  (Even Mario is Missing and Hotel Mario had better intros than that!)
9#: Super Paper Mario
10#: Super Mario Sunshine


I nominate Edutainment games.
(PS:  WEEGEE should not be one of your reasons for voting MiM best!
Title: Re: Best And Worst in Series Revisit
Post by: Kimimaru on December 07, 2008, 02:22:04 PM
I'm a little confused. Are you restricted to the previous BAWIS winners/losers, or can you vote for any Mario game?
Title: Re: Best And Worst in Series Revisit
Post by: Nintendoobsessed on December 08, 2008, 05:47:19 PM
ANY Mario game. >.<

The whole point is to see if the votes change.
Title: Re: Best And Worst in Series Revisit
Post by: Kimimaru on December 08, 2008, 08:24:52 PM
Oh, okay. Here are my votes:


BEST:
#1: That's a tough one, so I won't go for any on that, sorry.
#2: The best ending is probably Super Paper Mario. One thing I like about it is that unexpected plot twist.
#3: The game with the best powerups is probably Super Mario Bros. 3. It had a lot of them, and they were all fun to use.
#4: The best final boss battle is hard to decide, sorry. I won't go for that one.
#5: The best storyline is either between Paper Mario The Thousand Year Door and Super Paper Mario. I can't decide, so I'm not going to vote for that one, sorry.
#6: The best attacks are probably in Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga. They were funny and fun to perform, especially when you can do 3000+ damage (or around that. I don't remember my highest hit) with max stats using Spin Bros :).
#7: The best first boss is too hard to decide, so I won't vote on that sorry.
#8: The best intro is a little hard to decide too, since most of them are great in their own ways.
#9: I think the HUB in all of the Mario games are great, with a few exceptions, such as Mario Is Missing!. I'm not voting on this one, sorry.
#10: I can't really decide on my favorite first level, because all of them have great memories. I'm not voting on this one, sorry.

I'll only do a small WORST list because I really can't make up my mind.

#4: Mario Is Missing!. You're completely invincible against the last boss, and you can't lose. Also, he only moves back and forth across the castle.
#9: Mario Is Missing!. You're in a castle that is completely straight and you can open a few doors that each lead to 2 pipes. Each pipe takes you to a different part of the world. In each world you answer questions. It's not really that fun of a game to me.

I don't see why people think Flipside is the worst HUB out of all the Mario games. I thought that everything was placed in a great spot. It's easy to make your way around the town, and it has plenty of secrets in it.
Title: Re: Best And Worst in Series Revisit
Post by: Sqrt2 on December 09, 2008, 03:39:57 AM
Best

1#: Paper Mario
2#: Paper Mario
3#: SMB3
4#: Paper Mario
5#: Paper Mario: TTYD
6#: SMB3
7#: Paper Mario
8#: Mario Power Tennis
9#: Super Mario 64
10#: Super Mario Galaxy

Worst

1#: New Super Mario Bros.
2#: SMB2
3#: Mario Kart Wii
4#: Super Paper Mario
5#: Mario is Missing!
6#: Super Princess Peach
7#: Super Princess Peach
8#: Super Princess Peach (LOLs at nominating SPP 3 times in a row)
9#: Super Mario Sunshine
10#: Super Mario Land 2

Nominate: Best/Worst 3D game
Title: Re: Best And Worst in Series Revisit
Post by: Turtlekid1 on December 09, 2008, 06:07:35 PM
BEST:

1#: SMG.
2#: SMG again.
3#: SMW.  Cape feather FTW.
4#: NSMB.  Two bosses at once!
5#: SMG, mostly Rosalina's backstory.
6#: SMG yet again; I think the spin attack fits in with the game well.
7#: SM64.  Hey, I like big explosives.
8#: Ummm... Having trouble deciding... anything but Sunshine, really.
9#: SM64. 
10#: SMB, for nostalgic reasons.

WORST: SMS.  No, really, after playing it, I realize that while it wasn't a "bad" game per se, every post I had ever read complaining about Piantas, gross bosses, and the infamous "Mario!  How dare you disturb our family vacation!" I find myself agreeing with.  So, yeah... SMS is my answer for every worst category except powerups, which goes to SMB.
Title: Re: Best And Worst in Series Revisit
Post by: ShadowBrain on December 23, 2008, 09:18:26 AM
Best
1#: Super Mario Galaxy
2#: Super Mario World
3#: Super Mario World
4#: Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
5#: Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga (well, it's less the storyline and more the little things that you encounter along the way)
6#: Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
7#: Super Mario 64 (if only for the memories)
8#: Mario Power Tennis (I never, ever would've considered this, but I was drawing a blank, scrolled down to get ideas, and... well, it is pretty cool)
9#: Super Mario Sunshine
10#: Super Mario Galaxy

Worst
1#: New Super Mario Bros. (Remixing the SMW credits music for the main theme = Fail)
2#: Super Mario Galaxy (Only because it's confusing and you have to watch it at least four times to 100% the game)
3#: Super Mario Sunshine (Were there any?)
4#: Super Mario Galaxy (Boy, didn't see that coming)
5#: New Super Mario Bros. (I know it was supposed to be retro-simple, but... dang, at least SMB had the whole "black magic army of turtles" backstory)
6#: Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time (Way too much of an emphasis on repetitive Bros. Items. Why did they even bother including "normal" attacks?)
7#: Super Mario Land 2: Six Golden Coins (Any order works, really, but they're all sort of meh)
8#: Super Mario 64 (It works, but it's still a little unceremonious)
9#: Super Mario Galaxy
10#: Super Mario Sunshine (It's the least good, really. First levels are supposed to make a good impression and I think all the Mario games did fairly well in that respect)
Title: Re: Best And Worst in Series Revisit
Post by: jdaster64 on December 23, 2008, 06:00:47 PM
BEST:
1#: Super Mario 64
2#: Paper Mario
3#: Super Mario Bros. 3
4#: Super Paper Mario
5#: Paper Mario / M&L SS (tie)
6#: Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga (love those advanced commands!)
7#: Super Mario 64
8#: Super Mario World (short, sweet, and to the point)
9#: Paper Mario
10#: Super Mario Bros.

WORST:
1#: Super Mario Bros. 2 (US) (essentially only three cues)
2#: Super Mario Bros. 2 (US)
3#: Super Mario Sunshine
4#: Super Mario Bros. (identical to every other boss)
5#: Super Mario Bros. 2 (US)
6#: Mario & Luigi: PiT (put Bros. Attacks back in M&L 3!!!)
7#: Mario & Luigi: PiT (cheap ripoff of SS)
8#: Paper Mario (love that game, but essentially a half-hour intro)
9#: Super Mario Sunshine
10#: Super Mario Bros. 2 (US)

Worsts for me generally are in M&L PiT, SMS, and SMB2(US), if that isn't obvious...
Title: Re: Best And Worst in Series Revisit
Post by: Silver Metaknight on December 24, 2008, 12:33:08 PM
Best:

1#: Paper Mario
2#: Mario Power Tennis (The bloopers.)
3#: Super Mario Bros. 3 (The 3 Suits and the shoe FTW.)
4#: SMW2, Yoshi's Island (It was so epic, and somewhat challenging.)
5#: Paper Mario:  TTYD
6#: Mario and Luigi: SS
7#: First Boss
8#: Mario Power Tennis
9#: Paper Mario
10#: Super Mario 64

Worst:

1#: Super Mario Sunshine (Good music, but none of them are great.)
2#: Super Mario Galaxy (It didn't make sense, and why couldn't I finish the game before seeing it?)
3#: Mario Party 5 (capsules are the worst thing to appear in a Mario Party.)
4#: Super Mario Sunshine (anti-climatic and easy.)
5#: I don't know
6#: Super Mario Sunshine
7#: I don't know
8#: Mario Kart Wii (I just don't like it for some reason...)
9#:  Mario and Luigi; PIT (Too bland)
10#: I don't know
Title: Re: Best And Worst in Series Revisit
Post by: Toad on December 24, 2008, 11:41:14 PM
I know it's a little late for this, but should't we have the results from each topic so that we can see how accurate the new votes really are?
Title: Re: Best And Worst in Series Revisit
Post by: ShadowBrain on December 25, 2008, 08:14:56 AM
BEST AND WORST SUPER LIST:


BEST Winners:
WEEK 1(Attacks): Mario and Luigi: Superstar Saga
WEEK 2(Final Boss Battle): Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door
WEEK 3(Music): Super Mario Galaxy
WEEK 4(Underwater Levels): Super Mario World
WEEK 5(Powerups): Super Mario Bros 3
WEEK 6(Bowser Level):Paper Mario
WEEK 7(First Boss): Super Mario 64
WEEK 8(Yoshi's Role): Yoshi's Island
WEEK 9(Intro): Super Mario Galaxy
WEEK 10(Ending): Paper Mario
WEEK 11(Races): Super Mario 64
WEEK 12(Non-Bowser bosses): Yoshi's Island
WEEK 13(Hub):Super Mario Sunshine
WEEK 14(Hub Dwellers): Super Mario Galaxy
WEEK 15(Title Screen): Super Mario 64
WEEK 16(Box Art): Mario and Luigi: Partners in Time
WEEK 17(Level Success Animation): Super Mario 64
WEEK 18(Ghost Levels): Super Mario World
WEEK 19(Castle/Fortress Music): Super Mario World
WEEK 20(Super Mario Bros. Remixes): Super Mario 64
WEEK 21(First Level): Super Mario 64
WEEK 22(Coins): Super Mario World
WEEK 23(Storyline): Mario and Luigi: Superstar Saga
WEEK 24(Hub Music): Super Mario Galaxy
WEEK 25(Original Super Mario Bros Level): 1-1
WEEK 26(Characters): Mario and Luigi: Superstar Saga
WEEK 27(Bowser): Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door
WEEK 28(Lava/Fire Levels): Super Mario 64
WEEK 29(Sidequests): Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door
WEEK 30(Non-Mario Playable Character): Yoshi
WEEK 31(Villian{s}): Bowser
WEEK 32(2D Game): Super Mario World

WORST Winners:
WEEK 13(Hub): Super Mario Galaxy/Super Paper Mario
WEEK 14(Hub Dwellers): Super Mario Sunshine
WEEK 15(Title Screen): Mario Kart Wii
WEEK 16(Box Art): Mario Kart Wii
WEEK 17(Level Success Animation): Super Mario Bros. 2(American)
WEEK 18(Ghost Levels): Super Mario Sunshine
WEEK 19(Castle/Fortress Music): Super Mario Bros. 3
WEEK 20(Super Mario Bros. Remixes): Super Mario All-Stars
WEEK 21(First Level): Super Mario Sunshine  
WEEK 22(Coins): Super Mario Galaxy
WEEK 23(Storyline): Super Mario Sunshine
WEEK 24(Hub Music): Mario and Luigi: Partners in Time
WEEK 25(Original Super Mario Bros Level): 8-3
WEEK 26(Characters): Super Mario RPG
WEEK 27(Bowser): Super Mario Sunshine
WEEK 28(Lava/Fire Levels): Super Mario Sunshine
WEEK 29(Sidequests): Mario and Luigi: Partners in Time
WEEK 30(Non-Mario Playable Character): Baby Daisy
WEEK 31(Villian{s}): Petey Pirahna
WEEK 32(2D Game): Super Mario Bros 2 (Japan)
Title: Re: Best And Worst in Series Revisit
Post by: Toad on December 28, 2008, 09:43:39 PM
Oh. Pfft. Silly me.
Title: Re: Best And Worst in Series Revisit
Post by: Nintendoobsessed on January 03, 2009, 05:20:01 PM
Well...this was very mixed, but the whole idea was pretty much a diaster. This probably won't come back (unless you really liked it...) But here's the results anyway...


Music:
BEST: Super Mario Galaxy
WORST: New Super Mario Bros

Ending:
BEST: Paper Mario/Super Paper Mario
WORST: Mario Teaches Typing 2

Powerups:
BEST: Super Mario Bros. 3
WORST: Super Mario Sunshine

Final Boss Battle:
BEST: Paper Mario/Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door
WORST: Super Mario Sunshine

Storyline:
BEST: Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door
WORST: Mario Teaches Typing 2

Attacks:
BEST: Mario and Luigi: Superstar Saga
WORST: Super Mario Sunshine/Mario and Luigi: Partners in Time

First Boss:
BEST: Super Mario 64
WORST: Super Mario Sunshine

Intro:
BEST: Super Mario Galaxy
WORST: Mario Teaches Typing 2

Hub:
BEST: Paper Mario
WORST: Super Mario Sunshine

First Level:
BEST: Super Mario 64
WORST: Super Mario Sunshine


And there we go. Make sure to check the list to see the original votes...'collapses'




Title: Re: Best And Worst in Series Revisit
Post by: ShadowBrain on January 03, 2009, 06:02:32 PM
What was a disaster about it, the small voting turnout?
Title: Re: Best And Worst in Series Revisit
Post by: Luigalaxy on January 04, 2009, 07:13:17 AM
I enjoyed it. Really enjoyed it.
Title: Re: Best And Worst in Series Revisit
Post by: jmdblazer on January 04, 2009, 05:36:40 PM
Eh. We could do without it.