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Title: Should Justin Bieber just die?
Post by: Tv_Themes on February 21, 2010, 01:26:16 PM
What is he adding to the recording arts industry? Nothing. Absolutely nothing.

I'm sick of how the music business works. Each new singer gets so popular one week, then the next nobody cares for it anymore. What happened to Lady Gaga? I remember she used to be all over the radio, now nobody cares because its all about this Justin Bieber. Whats worse is these people think they are destined to be world famous just because they're famous now, but its just a fad. I guarantee by the Summer, nobody is going to be listening to Justin Bieber anymore, then he'll wind up on a VH1 "Celebrity" show to try reclaim his 15 minutes of fame.
Title: Re: Should Justin Bieber just die?
Post by: penguinwizard on February 21, 2010, 01:58:47 PM
Justin who?

Timberlake? No, don't know him either.

If each new singer gets popular one week and then shafted the next, then even artists who do genuinely add something new to the industry might get dumped for some other wonderboy/girl. I'm more ticked off at the music industry for being too restrictive over what constitutes "fair use" and their tendency to exaggerate money lost over pirated music (personally I don't see why the cost should be how much it took to produce versus how much it costs for the consumer to buy it legitimately, because no consumer would buy it at the production price. And this is usually stuff that is readily available, so there's no reason to charge the production price. So let's stop talk of VHS tapes costing $100 or every individual music track costing like $10,000).

Granted, if I think about it, the complaints I have regarding fair use of music are just because "it's up on YouTube, it's either an obscure song by itself or it's a song set to an AMV to give it an extra punch, this is clearly illegal use of music because it's an alternative to buying the song but I don't want it to be illegal". But similarly, if it is indeed difficult to get something legitimately, I don't see why it shouldn't be dumped into the public domain immediately. If they stopped selling something, it tells me they don't expect to make any more revenue off it. So open it up.

As for individual singers I think should die, that'd include anyone who decides to be mean to the press and act like they're gods. I generally don't care what goes on in the lives of music artists (unless I really really like them - Weird Al for one), so don't go parading it around. I let the music talk for them on whether I think they're good or not.

But then there was Fergie of the Black Eyed Peas who had an awesome though ridiculous excuse:
"I may not have the type of voice you like, but I can sing. You can't take that away from me, 'cause singing is a gift from God, and when people say I can't sing, it's kind of like insulting God."
Title: Re: Should Justin Bieber just die?
Post by: nensondubois on February 21, 2010, 02:03:09 PM
I never listen to any of these popular artists because they all suck. All cultural phenomenons like Youtube all exacerbate my opinions. Not all music from 2000 and above is bad but most of it is. Music was better 20 years ago and before... at least it had meaning.
Title: Re: Should Justin Bieber just die?
Post by: WarpRattler on February 21, 2010, 02:43:53 PM
Music from twenty-plus years ago sucked and was meaningless too.
Title: Re: Should Justin Bieber just die?
Post by: Weegee on February 21, 2010, 03:29:30 PM
...So says the guy who listens to airheaded Japanese game-soundtrack pop.
Title: Re: Should Justin Bieber just die?
Post by: Tv_Themes on February 21, 2010, 03:33:59 PM
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Justin who?

Perfectly sums it up.
Title: Re: Should Justin Bieber just die?
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on February 21, 2010, 04:06:46 PM
...seriously, who is Justin Bieber?

I must be getting old if I'm not even aware of who or what's "in" right now. First there was those Twilight books, now its this Justin Bieber guy. To think my younger brother and cousins don't even tell me about this when they're the typical anti-establishment type of kids.
Title: Re: Should Justin Bieber just die?
Post by: WarpRattler on February 21, 2010, 04:25:24 PM
Airheaded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_lQvztHvyk) Japanese (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3rGO2WhZGg) game-soundtrack (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jqfnpvCHWA) pop (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rb5m4i8EtA)? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeolH-kzx4c)
Title: Re: Should Justin Bieber just die?
Post by: Suffix on February 21, 2010, 05:46:46 PM
I don't have the slightest idea what this thread is about, but I give a big thumbs-up to Zabadak.
Title: Re: Should Justin Bieber just die?
Post by: penguinwizard on February 21, 2010, 06:45:30 PM
I must be getting old if I'm not even aware of who or what's "in" right now. First there was those Twilight books, now its this Justin Bieber guy. To think my younger brother and cousins don't even tell me about this when they're the typical anti-establishment type of kids.
Same. I don't recognize any of today's cartoon characters anymore, except the stalwart Spongebob. One comic strip long ago had a father saying he was getting old since he no longer recognized what people were dressing up as for Halloween.

But Twilight, yeah, that just came out of nowhere for me. And it looks like the perfect pop "in" thing too: some guy with a frowning face in just about any promotional piece. I guess a frown is the new smile. And vampire shows in general. What the frick? Penny Arcade already made a prediction on what the next fad will be. (http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2009/10/12/)

I for one am glad to see a sharp decrease in the number of CGI animal films (maybe studios realized they shouldn't compete against Pixar), but it looks like we're still stuck with an influx of horror films.

Wikipedia's article on Justin Bieber (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Bieber). Some Canadian pop star who made it big on YouTube. I guess the reason we're hearing about him is that the screenshot in the article was when he was at the Nintendo World Store.

I guess I'm just glad I'm not hearing about Aaron Carter anymore.
Title: Re: Should Justin Bieber just die?
Post by: Lizard Dude on February 21, 2010, 06:47:44 PM
What happened to Lady Gaga? I remember she used to be all over the radio, now nobody cares because its all about this Justin Bieber.
Are you sure you listen to radio, man? Lady Gaga's "Bad Romance" is currently number two on AT40. "Telephone" is 13th. "Paparazzi" is 27th.

Justin Bieber (whoever that is) is nowhere to be seen.
Title: Re: Should Justin Bieber just die?
Post by: Tv_Themes on February 21, 2010, 07:02:58 PM
I guess the reason we're hearing about him is that the screenshot in the article was when he was at the Nintendo World Store.

I made this topic to point out we have yet another untalented "star" in our midst that will be stale by Summer of '10
Title: Re: Should Justin Bieber just die?
Post by: Weegee on February 21, 2010, 07:04:01 PM
I've heard of him in passing, but that's just about all. It worries me to no end that a tenth-grader has already accomplished more than any of us ever will.

Of course, if it's any consolation, at least none of us look that [bundle of sticks]gy.
Title: Re: Should Justin Bieber just die?
Post by: bobman37 on February 21, 2010, 07:08:54 PM
Justin Bieber is a prepubescent singing dude that has become popular by infamy because, for some reason, everyone hates him. I have yet to determine why. Everyone's efforts should be directed toward Lady Gaga and Miley Cyrus.
Title: Re: Should Justin Bieber just die?
Post by: Weegee on February 21, 2010, 07:18:19 PM
efforts

That's the best euphemism I've ever heard. Anyway, Mr. Beiber is despised simply for being the next Zac Efron, and, as such, shall just be another flash-in-the-pan.
Title: Re: Should Justin Bieber just die?
Post by: nensondubois on February 21, 2010, 07:25:20 PM
Never heard of Justin Bieber either.
Title: Re: Should Justin Bieber just die?
Post by: Chupperson Weird on February 21, 2010, 07:41:59 PM
I'm confused by this conversation because Lady Gaga is actually decently good and seems to know what she's doing (although no one else does?).
Title: Re: Should Justin Bieber just die?
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on February 21, 2010, 08:03:03 PM
Lady Gaga is my guiltest pleasure. She's the type of over the top performer I want to despise, but her songs or hypnotically catchy.

I blame my sister for making me listen to her every single day on the way to work.
Title: Re: Should Justin Bieber just die?
Post by: Toad on February 21, 2010, 09:09:08 PM
Poker Face is funny. It starts out so goofy (Ma ma ma ma ma ma ma) and you think it's going to be another song, then BAM!.. Poker Face.
Title: Re: Should Justin Bieber just die?
Post by: Lizard Dude on February 21, 2010, 09:18:04 PM
Lady Gaga is legit to the max.

Miley Cyrus has a good song or two, nowadays.

Of course, if it's any consolation, at least none of us look that [bundle of sticks]gy.
Well, Meowrik does.
Title: Re: Should Justin Bieber just die?
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on February 22, 2010, 12:39:26 AM
It worries me to no end that a tenth-grader has already accomplished more than any of us ever will.

Hey it could be worse.

We could be talking about Fred here.
Title: Re: Should Justin Bieber just die?
Post by: Chupperson Weird on February 22, 2010, 01:09:14 AM
"any of us"?
/me leaves forum
Title: Re: Should Justin Bieber just die?
Post by: Glorb on February 25, 2010, 06:06:47 PM
I think Justin Bieber should die because if he lived forever that would be pretty scary.

Also because he single-handedly ruined Ludacris' image for me more than Gamer and Halloween H2O combined.
Title: Re: Should Justin Bieber just die?
Post by: SolidShroom on February 25, 2010, 07:10:22 PM
If there's anybody who has undeserved recognition, it's The Beatles. I mean, Justin Bieber will disappear within the next two years or so, but nobody ever shuts up about how great that menagerie of mediocrity was.
Title: Re: Should Justin Bieber just die?
Post by: Weegee on February 25, 2010, 07:16:03 PM
/me begs to differ.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but calling the Beatles mediocre is a cardinal sin.
Title: Re: Should Justin Bieber just die?
Post by: Mr. Wiggles on February 26, 2010, 01:11:48 AM
I thought trolling was against the rules.

If we still had mods, you'd be out of here so fast, boy.
Title: Re: Should Justin Bieber just die?
Post by: Weegee on February 26, 2010, 04:11:25 PM
"Teenage Wasteland"
CSI theme song
If there's anybody who has undeserved recognition, it's The Beatles.

Yeah, I'll never be able to take Solid seriously again.
Title: Re: Should Justin Bieber just die?
Post by: Glorb on February 26, 2010, 05:07:23 PM
The Beatles suck. Especially the dead ones.
Title: Re: Should Justin Bieber just die?
Post by: SolidShroom on March 01, 2010, 04:16:36 PM
Don't judge me.
Title: Re: Should Justin Bieber just die?
Post by: superstarMASIAH on March 01, 2010, 04:32:28 PM
There are some Beatles songs I enjoy, "A Day in the Life" for one.  Put together very well.