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Video Games => Mario Chat => Topic started by: smb allstars master on June 09, 2002, 05:05:23 PM
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I was gonna post this when I first noticed it, but I've been busy. But here it is now:
heh heh, play some smw and hop on yoshi and press Y. you'll see what I mean.
(If you're a retard, look closely at yoshi's head!)
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Wow, I guess I wasn't the only person to notice this...
I saw this one day when I was bored and it gave me the [wtd]?!?! response; I mean, Mario just SMACKS Yoshi across the back of the head for no apparent reason... (sorry if I spoiled it) and then he ditches Yoshi to get the 2nd Cheese bridge exit... What gives?
Mario needed to treat Yoshi with more respect in SMW, I mean, it is impossible to get the Valley of Bowser 4 ----> Star Road 5 Exit without him. Without that, there is no 96, and without a 96, I no longer have a perfect score on my file :(............
*My real signature went on strike, said something about "unfair working conditions". So, this is a temporary replacement sig, until I can work things out with the real sig.
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I always thought Mario was pointing, not smacking. Well, I still think he's pointing.
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no no no....Mario's arm has a definate left to right motion, and yoshis head moves forward, with his tongue sticking out. he was definately smacked
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I believe for a fact that he's pointing though tere is a chance it could be wrong, I mean, how can you come to the conclusion that he's smacking Yoshi, when his hand is 16 square pixels?
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I believe for a fact that he's pointing though tere is a chance it could be wrong, I mean, how can you come to the conclusion that he's smacking Yoshi, when his hand is 16 square pixels?
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I always thought Mario pointed to the objects he wanted Yoshi to eat... If he does smack Yoshi, then why doesn't Yoshi just turn around and slurp up Mario's hand?
Poor Yoshi... at least Kirby doesn't have to suffer this kind of abuse when he eats things!
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Yah, you see Mario's hand come down on Yoshi's head. His head goes down and his tongue comes out.
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hold on, I've got a few pics...I didnt capture this one, but when mario has is hand raised (almost right when you press Y) Yoshi is looking back at it and I can swear nintendo tried to put a look of fear on his face...I'll post the URL with the pics in about 20 mins.
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My end of the argument can be found at my old site : http://www.geocities.com/slaggadin/pictures.html
I had incontrevertible evidence, unfortunately my digital camera sucks and the battery was dying. But its still some pretty **** good evidence!
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I beg to differ.
Yoshi "Smack" 1: "notice Mario's hand on the side of Yoshi's cheek, and Mario's body beginning to turn to the right."
Granted, Mario's hand is on the side of Yoshi, and his body is turned to the right a tad. None the less, Mario could still very well be pointing.
Yoshi "Smack" 2: "First, ignore the thing on Mario's hand/behind Yoshi's eye. Thats the result of my ****ty digital camera with a rapidly dying battery. Mario' bdy has definately begun to turn to the right, and Notice how the hand is higher and at an angle more towards the left."
Mario's body has made no change what so ever. He has not moved at all since picture one. He is no more turned to the right than before, just look at the two images, the exact same sprite. I also notice no change in elevation. His hand has stayed the same, where Yoshi's head has gone down. No movement of the arm or hand. I don't see a change in angle either, considering it's exactly the same as in the first picture. His arm is in a straight line, no angle to be seen.
Yoshi "Smack" 3: "Notice how the head is down and sticking out. Most importantly, notice how Mario's hand is underneath his chin. His arm isn't being drawn back to his side, IT'S GOING ACROSS HIS CHEST!!"
Yoshi's head is also, in the exact same position as in image #2. His head is no lower than before. I can see where you would think his hand is making the turn, but I still believe it is being drawn back. Notice the bend in the elbow, that is where it makes his arm seem to be making the motion around. But, in either of the two images before, a bent elbow is absent. His elbow would have had to bend before image 3, but no sign of it has been shown. I see his arm being drawn back in a casual fashion.
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Ah, thats some excellent reasoning, but I checked the pictures again.
notice how in YoshiSmack1, the arm extends like this : ===O, a straight line. But in YoshiSmack2, The arm starts off skinny then gets fatter near the wrist, making it appear to be sticking outwards to the right.
If I can find an animated GIF of this, I'll put that up too.
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well, I proved myself wrong with a not-so-good animated GIF I made (well, pretty good for my first try). Small Mario doesn't smack Yoshi...but I still think big Mario does... Oh well, you can find the evidence against me here: http://www.geocities.com/slaggadin/YoshiSmack.gif
BUT, notice the look of fear on Yoshi's face here: http://www.geocities.com/slaggadin/Image3.gif
makes you wonder, doesnt it?
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Don't let's forget the evidence from the game Yoshi! on the NES:
http://www11.brinkster.com/yoshisan/ex/yoshi1.gif
http://www11.brinkster.com/yoshisan/ex/yoshi2.gif
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I dunno, it's still rather hard to tell. I personally always saw it as Mario hitting Yoshi, but I think I've seen an illustration somewhere that appeared otherwise...
Go Moon!
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now THAT proves yoshi gets CRANKED!!!! in the first, mario has is face to you (and yoshi still has that look of fear), but in the second, mario has his hand right on the back of his head, which proves nothing, right? maybe he is pointing. WRONG. look how Mario is facing to the left now, as if his body is turning to the left. Thats a CRANK!
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I still have my doubts. Granted, in those two frames, it does seem as if he is hitting Yoshi, but I feel there is a frame or two missing in between or after.
Take the earlier screens for an example. Yoshi Smack 1 and 2 are in the exact same position as the second screen provided by Fifth. And from the new screens, we don't see the before motion or the after motion.
Although the new screens look more like a 'smack', I still feel pointing is more or less what Mario is doing.
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Keep in mind htat this is a NES game; you're not missing a lot in the ways of animation.
The first frame is the first of the action. Before that it's just Mario riding Yoshi, who's just standing there. Mario stays in the position of the second picture for the entire time while Yoshi's tounge is out, his hand in the same spot. Then it returns to the first picture with Mario's hand in the air (minus the mushroom) which doubles as Yoshi swallowing. After that, they're just standing there again.
Go Moon!
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Couple of things to say:
When Mario has his hand "across his chest" in Yoshi "Smack" 3, that is what I look like when I put MY hand back from pointing.
Yoshi "Smack" 2: The "little thing" isn't from his cruddy digital camera, that's his finger!
That isn't a look of fear, he's getting ready to slurp what Mario is going to point at. When he runs from being hit, that isn't fear either. That's probably sweat from running faster than he's used to. They couldn't program sweat in yet.
If it WAS fear, then why would Yoshi give Mario 100 lives and a special Triple Jump in Super Mario 64?
Isn't smb all-stars master starting a flame war?
Mario, Mario, Mario! What happened to Mr. Andretti?
Edited by - MadMario on 6/12/2002 6:13:45 PM
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no, Im not (intentionally) starting a flame war. These are just opinions (right guys?) If your trying to get into a flame war, GO AWAY! as for my pictures, they prove yoshi doesn't get smacked in SMW. but in this other game.....Why does Yoshi give Mario a hundred lives, you ask? well, Mario hasnt been smackin Yoshi lately, he stopped in SMW. hey, its only fair Yoshi isn't abused after Yoshi's island 0_~.
If you think I'm intentionally starting a flame war, or accuse me of starting a flame war, oh I'll give you a flame war.
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I'm sorry about that. I was still mad because Kirby_101 was banned for holding his opinion that Luigi was in SM64. I didn't really mean that you started a flame war, but hold Up on the D-Pad when you press Y. Yoshi doesn't move his head down, but Mario makes the exact same motion as when you only press Y.
That's proof that Mario doesn't smack Yoshi. If he did, then Yoshi would still move his head down even when you hold Up on the D-Pad.
Sorry again for that false accusition.
Mario, Mario, Mario! What happened to Mr. Andretti?
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kirby_101 was banned because he temporarily disabled not one, but two forums from his reckless use of HTML.
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aye, but maybe Mario smacks Yoshi in a different place and he doesnt feel it when you do that? nah, thats horribly illogical. We now know Mario most likely doesnt smack Yoshi in smw, but in the other game...
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What about the Troopas?
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I meen. They don't do anything to Mario. All they are doing is walking down the street. All of the sudden Mario comes and plows through them! Then they cause damage to Mario. If someone plowed through you wouldn't you want to get back at them too? Now all of the sudden the Troopa is the bad guy. If running into it wasn't enough. Mario has to jump on top of the poor little thing too. In SMW the poor guy gets shot write our oh is shell! Mario also thows vegtables at birds in SMB2. Then Mario goes and makes Yoshi eat those little gophers in shades. So don't just feel pitty for Yoshi. Feel pitty for all those animals. No waunder some of them, like Yoshi, want to beet Mario up in the SSB trilogy.
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How do you explain when you hold up and have Yoshi eat then? Mario still sticks his hand out, and it goes to the right of Yoshi's head.
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Once again, Mario is pointing when he does that, but not in some of the older games. But what was said above about Mario chuckin vegetables and all that, yes Mario does abuse animals, but getting back to yoshi, in SMW, Mario points. But in Yoshi!, he smacks.
C'mon people, lets keep this argument goin!
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Ok, update. When you jump when you're on Yoshi, he has that look of "fear" on his face again. I'm telling you, if it is a look of fear, then Yoshi's paranoid. Afraid of JUMPING?!
I was wrong about it being his finger, I played the game recently and I noticed that there is only a circle there, but when his hand is "across his chest", thats where it is when he's just standing there. Looks like Yoshi has reins (lol). We already know that Mario didn't smack Yoshi in SMW now, but with Yoshi!, it still looks like he's pointing, because Mario's hand is again to the right of Yoshi's head.
Forgot to say this sooner, but Yoshi's Island tecnnically is Mario's first adventure
Mario, Mario, Mario! What happened to Mr. Andretti?
Edited by - MadMario on 6/28/2002 11:09:17 AM
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Enough of this, I still say Mario is smacking Yoshi EVERY time he "points" in every Mario game ever made where this is applicable.
Why would he be POINTING?!?!? You think Mario doesn't think Yoshi can see where he is going? You all may think otherwise, but I still say Mario is hitting Yoshi and not pointing. I have my reasons though... and you all won't understand most of them.
You know what? I got really, really bored one day so I decided to change my signature.
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Well, of course Yoshi can see where he's going, but he may not always know what Mario wants him/doesn't want him to eat. He's not psychic. So Mario points it out to him.
Which isn't to say that I'm convinced he's pointing, because I'm not, just that your logic is flawed. I'm not sure if he is hitting him either, but that would make sense if he were--how do we ride horses in real life? You kick them, often with sharp spurs on your heels, to get them started and pull on their heads with the reins to direct them. I'm not saying that's right, but it is the way it's done, and it would make sense for that to be what Mario's doing in the game(s).
But I'm curious as to what these reasons you have are that you think no one would understand. Try us, because I'm all interested now . . . :D
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Maybe Mario just gently taps him. It's a compromise for both sides of this argument.
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MAybe he tapped and pointed both he probly gently taps Yoshi then points.
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hmmm....thats possible, but lets say theres no middle side to choose. theres just the smack and the point. where would you go?why?
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He couldn't possibly be pointing. Yoshi only licks foward, and he licks even when nothing's there. There's definitly some contact.
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Explain why Yoshi licks at nothing at times in Yoshi's Island then. Mario couldn't be hitting him there, he's looking behind Yoshi, and Mario doesn't seem to know what's going on unless he's hit anyway.
Anyway, about Mario abusing the other animals, I think Mario is really seeking revenge on them for abusing him when he was a baby.
Mario, Mario, Mario! What happened to Mr. Andretti?
Edited by - MadMario on 7/6/2002 3:22:27 PM
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No, I checked it again, and he is DEFINATLY hitting Yoshi, not pointing. This may be to get a certain automatic response (i.e., sticking the tongue out) from Yoshi.... But there are 2 reasons I think this:
1. Notice the forward motion of Mario's arm. It is not a bent, pointing motion, but more of a striaght forward, hitting motion.
2. If you look at Mario's hand, there is no finger extended to point with. It is simply a closed fist.
There you have it.
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That's because Mario's hands have never shown fingers except recently here in SSBM and SMS.
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He's got fingers when he needs to make a two-fingered v-sign, both in Super Msrio World and in Yoshi. I don't see why he couldn't use a finger to point, if that's really what he's doing...
Go Moon!
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woo hoo! agreeance!! I wont post anything here for a while, unless the argument REALLY picks up and gets intense, or until I find some really good proof. I'll still check back occasionally though, so dont stop!
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