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Video Games => Mario Chat => Topic started by: Peach Feminist on July 16, 2002, 05:43:03 PM
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Why does Peach have to be rescued so many times? I wish Nintendo will wake up and smell the coffee and make a game where Peach will have to save Mario! She can kick butt too! I'm sorry but the patriarchy is getting to me....
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where did I hear this......"all a femenist wants is to be a man."....hmmm, im not too sure...
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Sors salutis
et virtutis
michi nunc contraria,
est affectus
et defectus
semper in angaria.
Hac in hora
sine mora
corde pulsum tangite;
quod per sortem
sternit fortem,
mecum omnes plangite!
you really dont know, do you??
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All you feminists are so ***ist.
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In my dream, the world had suffered a terrible disaster. A black haze shut out the sun, and the darkness was alive with the moans and screams of wounded people.
Suddenly, a small light glowed. A candle flickered into life, symbol of hope for millions. A single tiny candle, shining in the ugly dark. I laughed, and blew it out.
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Maybe Bowser will decide he's really wanted to marry MARIO this whole time, and kidnap HIM . . .
Really though, ignore anyone who randomly flames you because of some insecurity THEY have, but that's just the way Peach is written. She's a girlie girl, just as some people in real life are. It's made for many an entertaining game, and many more where she DOES get to kick some tail (stupid language filter). There are plenty of examples in the Nintendo universe of girls who AREN'T like this, like Zelda (who cross-dresses, and knows extremely powerful magic), Impa, and Samus (who most people didn't even realize was female for a long time because of all the stereotypes she didn't conform to, and still assume otherwise the first time they see her).
Not every female can be strong, just as not every male is . . . I mean, look at Toad! Mario's always having to save him too.
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Hey, Toad ruled in SMB2 and MT!^_^
Hey, it''s me, the local couch potato, hey look, I found some lint and a quarter...
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Thanks for supporting me:) Yeah I guess Peach is too psychologically brained-washed by society to be a "girl". But I'm sure one day she will wake up and break from her unknown oppression. It's true that not all women are strong and not all men are strong. But if we unite we can destroy the oppression that is reflected in videogames as well. Feminism is meant to LIBERATE everyone not just women. And whoever said that "feminists just want to be like men" must be smoking some serious mushrooms! LOL!!!!! Peace out!
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I dunno....I think that statement was pretty true...but Peach did kick some tail in smb2....
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Sors salutis
et virtutis
michi nunc contraria,
est affectus
et defectus
semper in angaria.
Hac in hora
sine mora
corde pulsum tangite;
quod per sortem
sternit fortem,
mecum omnes plangite!
you really dont know, do you??
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We didn't realize Samus was a girl in the first game because THEY LIED TO US IN THE INSTRUCTION BOOKLET! They said "he" when refering to Samus. I'm not one to contradict instruction booklets.
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In my dream, the world had suffered a terrible disaster. A black haze shut out the sun, and the darkness was alive with the moans and screams of wounded people.
Suddenly, a small light glowed. A candle flickered into life, symbol of hope for millions. A single tiny candle, shining in the ugly dark. I laughed, and blew it out.
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DAISY AND LADY BOW AND BOMBETTE COULD CRUSH BOWSER ANY DAY!(i kno it said no shouting but i had to get this point out sorry if offended u)
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Speaking of Samus, EVERYBODY in my school, except for Spiky Blue Shell and GreatGremlin thought that she was a boy. One kid even thought Samus was a robot.
King Boo isn't dead! He will return...
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This is so weird! I can't believe we're talking about this.
Let me explain.
Right before this topic I was working on a mini poster that took me two days to work on. It had Peach (I got rid of the crown, it didn't fit the scene) and Toad with Karate clothes on and heres what my mini poster said: The're not sissies anymore!
Then after I was done with the poster, I came back here and found the topic talking about Peach being the main character and kicking butt!
How freaky is that!?
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Toad's not a girl. He's just voiced by one.
(Jen Taylor, for those who really care)
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In my dream, the world had suffered a terrible disaster. A black haze shut out the sun, and the darkness was alive with the moans and screams of wounded people.
Suddenly, a small light glowed. A candle flickered into life, symbol of hope for millions. A single tiny candle, shining in the ugly dark. I laughed, and blew it out.
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Ah, I didn't know that, frostbite. I never played the original game. But still, most people who see her in, say, SSBM for the first time--where it's not insinuated anywhere that she's male--still assume she's a guy. I know I did (even tho I saw her long before SSBM).
Anyway, I don't really see Peach being "oppressed" in the games. No one holds her down just because they think she's a woman and thus inferior to men . . . usually she is kidnapped by Bowser, who has a thing for her (and her kingdom, of course). If Bowser were gay, he'd probably be kidnapping a prince, who would be equally helpless under the circumstances; Bowser's one strong dude. It's a personal thing for him. We've also seen Mario kidnapped, and defeated by Bowser (PM) . . . it just doesn't happen as often because the villians are always male and everyone wants up on Peach, wishes to usurp her throne, and/or knows that she is Mario's weak point. In fact, that the (main) villians are all male is a form of equally offensive gender sterotyping. The only main female antagonist I can think of is Captain Syrup (another strong Nintendo woman), and the "Good Guy" in that game was actually more evil than her.
ETA: No, I don't think feminists want to be men . . . they just want the same rights as men. I won't say they want to be COMPLETELY equal to men, because they don't, and that's one of my main problems with certain areas of the movement; you never see a female feminist (there are males too, you know) insisting that she be entered into the draft pool and forced from her home life into humiliating boot camp and lethal armed combat, or that she be smacked about by a man the same way another man would be if they got into a bar brawl (instead we get the "There's NO excuse for hitting a woman!" bumper sticker). The truth is both ***es are oppressed, in different ways, and the emotional/societal pressures men put on other men can damage their minds as much or more as those put on women.
Edited by - WanWan on 7/17/2002 4:04:11 PM
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I know Toad is not a girl. It was a joke because he acts like a sissie.
Duhh!
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Dear WanWan I agree with some of your points. I would like to go on and on about feminism in general but this is a Mario site and I will probably get kicked out if I go of on a philosophical tangent. If you want to talk about feminism (and this goes to anybody else) please e-mail me. Thanks:) Peace to all!:)
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I'm too lazy to email u. come on! show us why you feminists are so great!
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Sors salutis
et virtutis
michi nunc contraria,
est affectus
et defectus
semper in angaria.
Hac in hora
sine mora
corde pulsum tangite;
quod per sortem
sternit fortem,
mecum omnes plangite!
you really dont know, do you??
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This is a point of interest to me; why DOES Bowser kidnap Peach all the time? He knows perfectly well that Mario will come and kick his butt, but he does it anyways. Nintendo would probably tell you that it's because Bowser's got a crush on Peachie (PM), but I think he likes Mario, and kidnapping Peach is the best way to make him show up. I know, I'm twisted. But at least my idea makes more sense than Bowser just kidnapping Peach all the time to make his kingdom stronger. Yeah, being the boss of a bunch of sissy mushroom people is SUCH a huge perk.
"Like the moon over
the day, my genius and brawn
are lost on these fools."
-Bowser, SMRPG
Sometimes I dream about being carried off by a giant squirrel...Does that make me a nut?
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Dear Pyrasaur:
Your theory sounds cool! LOL!!!!!!
I have never thought about it that way. Thanks for giving me something new to think about:) LOL!!! Shalom!
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He doesn't want the mushroom people, he just wants the land, so he can extend his own country.
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In my dream, the world had suffered a terrible disaster. A black haze shut out the sun, and the darkness was alive with the moans and screams of wounded people.
Suddenly, a small light glowed. A candle flickered into life, symbol of hope for millions. A single tiny candle, shining in the ugly dark. I laughed, and blew it out.
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This sounds like the beginning of a slash-fic . . . the mechanics of the relationship are simply mind-boggling though. *pause* Oh-KAY, going to stop thinking about that now. Yeesh, that's as bad as the Ganon-not-dorf/Link fics. Worse!
Peach Feminist, I didn't mean to make it into a big philosophical debate . . . and it is off-topic. :D I do agree with some of points and you agree with some of mine, and we haven't managed to sink to the depths of a flame war yet (I wouldn't do that), so we'll call it even. ^^ And it wasn't all feminists I was complaining about, I hope you guys understand that.
(I mean, he's all spiny, and like 4 times Mario's size . . . wait, I said I was going to stop thinking about it!)
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Ganondorf is the sole man born to the Gerudo tribe in over 100 years. I'm sure everyone would have to have *** with him, or the Gerudo race would be extinct. I'm sure Ganon's getting enough from the other Gerudos that he wouldn't have to get any from Zelda.
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In my dream, the world had suffered a terrible disaster. A black haze shut out the sun, and the darkness was alive with the moans and screams of wounded people.
Suddenly, a small light glowed. A candle flickered into life, symbol of hope for millions. A single tiny candle, shining in the ugly dark. I laughed, and blew it out.
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Doesn't it say in Ocarina of Time that Gerudos sometimes come to Hyrule Castle Town to look for boyfriends? I guess they date outside their race. And really, would Ganondorf be such a bitter guy if he...err....nevermind.
Actually WanWan, it IS the start of a slash fic...*grins sheepishly and kicks her unfinished fic under a nearby sofa* When it's done, you'll have some more lovely smut to terrify people with, and I've thought through the mechanics so you don't have to! :D
"Like the moon over
the day, my genius and brawn
are lost on these fools."
-Bowser, SMRPG
Sometimes I dream about being carried off by a giant squirrel...Does that make me a nut?
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Woo-hoo! *snicker* I'm sure if you write it, it won't be torture-games-worthy. We only cringe at the BAD slash smut . . . like the one I just sent her where Tails gets a new boyfriend with amethyst nipple rings and chain.
I sure know how to pick 'em.
Topic? What topic? Oh yeah . . . Peach rules, YEEEEAAAHH!
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I dunno, the pairing alone is enough to make most sane people howl with disgust and curl up in a shivering little ball. I also plan on writing in a scene where Peach finds out in the most disturbing way possible, which happens to keep this post on-topic. :D
"Like the moon over
the day, my genius and brawn
are lost on these fools."
-Bowser, SMRPG
Sometimes I dream about being carried off by a giant squirrel...Does that make me a nut?